Teens kicked out of High School for being lesbians

[Flipper]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/STUDENTS_EXPELLED?SITE=MOSTP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

What do you think?

My initial thoughts... If they were acting like lesbians, and if they are lesbians, it's a private school, and they have the right to kick them out, and to only allow what students they want there.

If they weren't acting like lesbians, and one was really coerced to say she loves the other, then the shame on the school.

[Protoevangel]

Snippitts from the story:Two 16-year-olds who were expelled from a Lutheran high school because they were suspected of being lesbians...

Their entire support network was pulled out from under them because of suspicions about their sexual orientation...

...the school's principal, Gregory Bork, called the girls into his office, grilled them on their sexual orientation and "coerced" one girl into saying she loved the other...

...Bork told the girls' parents they could not stay at the school with "those feelings."...

The school is claiming the girls were expelled because their conduct wasn't within the Christian code. But at the same time, (the school) has students who aren't Christians and are even Jewish.
IMO, the school is clearly in the wrong here. These students deserve to be re-enrolled or compensated to be moved to another comperable school. I also think the students deserve an award from punitive damages.

If the students were publicly "making out", or actively promoting the lifestyle, I would not have a problem with the expelling, but certianly not on the grounds of "suspicions and "feelings!"

[LilLamb219]

Without knowing all the facts of what those suspicions entailed, it's really hard to say who is right and who is wrong.

[Jim47]

If this is the same case I heard of in the news recently, the radio reported them as kissing and holding hands and I think "more" in the hallsways. Weren't the school principle and teacher also fired? Unless this is a different case, but it sounds the same.


I think this article was printed with bias and is siding with the girls.

[SPALATIN]

Snippitts from the story:
IMO, the school is clearly in the wrong here. These students deserve to be re-enrolled or compensated to be moved to another comperable school. I also think the students deserve an award from punitive damages.

If the students were publicly "making out", or actively promoting the lifestyle, I would not have a problem with the expelling, but certianly not on the grounds of "suspicions and "feelings!"

I ask this... Where was the Gospel in all of this? I see a bunch of people applying law, but very little if none of the Gospel message to these young girls.

Coercion should never be part of the Principal's manner in speaking with students about his suspicions. I am sorry but this was the wrong way to handle it if indeed it happened this way.

[Flipper]

Coercion should never be part of the Principal's manner in speaking with students about his suspicions. I am sorry but this was the wrong way to handle it if indeed it happened this way.

That's what stuck out to me. If they were openly making out, then I agree that the students should be suspended, but if it's all based on rumor, suspicion or coersion, then the school was way, way out of line.

[Protoevangel]

I think this article was printed with bias and is siding with the girls.
That is a very good point to consider.

I was basing my comments entirely on the information presented in the article. The media is so often biased in one way or another, it is often best to reserve judgement until knowing the situation better.

Regardless, expelling them should have been a very last resort, and not undertaken lightly. If it was done properly, the suit should not go far.

[Flipper]

The girls' lawyer and the "lawsuit" (which I take to mean the Complaint) were quoted. Schools usually don't comment publically on these things. I don't think the media is biased this time, they are only reporting what they have, which is the pleading filed and the comments of the girls' lawyer.

Because this affects the kids' time in school, if the parents give their spin (which might or might not be the truth) to the attorney, and if it's what the attorney needs to hear to be convinced there is a case, they are going to file the case as soon as possible - you have to, because the kids are now kicked out, there is no time to investigate it first. Now, a different story, persepctive, take, etc. could come out as the litigation progresses, the lawyer could drop out, or the case could be dismissed, even the school could in fact be in the wrong, or any other number of things - but they have to go through the process now for all that to come out.

[LutherNut]

I hear a lot of comments being made based solely on the remarks of a liberal attorney without having the whole story available. Do we know what was done at the school? No. Do we know whether or not the principal truly "coerced" anyone to do or say anything? Absolutely not. Do we know what sort of investigation was conducted at the school beforehand? Not at all. There could very well have been action taking place prior to the expulsion that the girls lawyer doesn't want to talk about. Of course the lawyer wants to paint the school in the worst possible light. It makes the court of public opinion his ally.

This could be a very hot issue since we have a lawyer who is going after the school as a political entity rather than a religious one. If this were to be found in favor of the girls, then our Lutheran schools would be subject to all kinds of things that are not Biblical and even sinful.

Not that it matters, but I am assuming that this was either an LCMS or a WELS high school. Does anyone know? (I'm sure that the ELCA would not have expelled lesbians.)

This reminds me of the KFUO case from several years ago.
(Here we go again....)



Jay

[C.F.W. Walther]

The whole upshot of this dissmissle is not the occurence but what ACLU or the liberal media will do with it. This could be the demise of setting self-standards and rules in a perochial system. Battles simmilar between boyscouts and the gay community. Pressures by gay groups on legislatures to inact some laws to force Christian schools to allow such activity and being backed up with law enactments by the supreme court.

Sound like a set-up to me.

I see big trouble on the horizon.




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