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GuyWitQuestions
30th December 2005, 11:59 AM
I've been thinking al ot lately, and I just can't seem to figure out why this is.
Why did God choose to kill so many people via plagues and catastrophies?
Why would a loving God send us to eternal hell?
BarbB
30th December 2005, 12:35 PM
Can you tell me something about your background - what you believe? :confused:
stone
30th December 2005, 12:43 PM
I think it has something to do with the preservation of rightousness before the eyes of father.
christinepro
30th December 2005, 12:49 PM
I've been thinking al ot lately, and I just can't seem to figure out why this is.
Why did God choose to kill so many people via plagues and catastrophies?
Why would a loving God send us to eternal hell? I believe that the bad things happen because of our free will and that things are going to get allot worse until G_d's Kingdom is established on earth.
GuyWitQuestions
30th December 2005, 12:56 PM
I am Messianic, I believe that Yeshua is Messiah, God in the flesh.
I've been talknig with some unbelievers lately and I can't come up with an answer for those.
Why is it ok to eternally torture people?
Why is it ok to kill innocents for something someone else did?
stone
30th December 2005, 01:06 PM
The story of Noah is a good example. All those that died in the flood didn't see anything wrong with what they were doing, apparently it was not rightous before the eyes of g_d.
GuyWitQuestions
30th December 2005, 01:18 PM
They were all totally corrupt, even the babies?
Why did God have to kill them all, couldn't He have done something less harsh?
stone
30th December 2005, 01:33 PM
It has something to do with satans seed.
I'm at work, i don't have the chapter and verse of the story memorized, maybe someone else here can post it. That would be a good place to start. If you begin to study to torah and the other similar stories it should begin to make sense, once you see the history and the context of the history.
There is a pattern in the bible of history repeating itself, after much time you will see that it is repeating again.
You really have to read the stories and study them to see what i mean.
jgonz
30th December 2005, 02:30 PM
They were all totally corrupt, even the babies?
Why did God have to kill them all, couldn't He have done something less harsh?
I'll take a stab at this one...
A Bible study teacher I had one time said that since G-d knows the beginning from the end, He already knew that those babies were never going to follow Him because of their parents' sin, the pollution of idols in the land, etc.
The people were so intensely ingrained in sinful lifestyles their consciences were seared and would never have heard G-d. G-d did not cause this to happen, those people Chose to live this way. Chose to bow down to idols, chose to sacrifice their infants to Molech, chose to build their children into the walls of the cities... It may have been all they knew, but there was no way they were coming out of that wickedness to follow G-d. G-d had no choice but to destroy them. There was no redemption for their wicked and reprobate hearts.
However, Noah's son Ham apparently still had the heart of the wicked, taught idolatry to his offspring, and the sin and wickedness grew again until we have the situation we have today.
CovenantRay
30th December 2005, 03:49 PM
Shalom:
I'll take a couple of shots at this one too:
Why did God choose to kill so many people via plagues and catastrophies?
Why would a loving God send us to eternal hell?
Basic idea: G-d created mankind with free will. Think of it, being eternal, would you want worship from those who had no choice, or would you want those to love you of their own free will? Which would be genuine?
Question #1:
After the "fall" in Genesis chapter 3, evil and sin were present. Without getting into a lengthy discussion about the Nephillim, the sons of G-d interbred with human women. [As pastor Chuck Missler puts it] There became a genetics problem. Noah and the flood [nearly?] eliminated the problem. The question remains how the Nephillim/Giants were around in Moses' and David's day.
Regarding Sodom and Gomorrah -- This is made clear in Genesis Chapter 19, being wicked and evil. There was a chance for redemption, yet the people therein persued their wicked ways.
With regard to the story of Jonah -- he went, reluctantly, to Nineveh to preach G-d's message to repent or be destroyed. They repented and were not destroyed -- much to the chagrin of Jonah.
Question #2
G-d has had a plan of salvation for mankind, spoken of in Genesis Chapter 3
15And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her seed;
He shall bruise you on the head,
And you shall bruise him on the heel."
Not to trivialize the bible in any way, but all of the books, taken together, lay out the plan of salvation for mankind. It is a choice, one made with one's heart, by G-d's grace, through faith. It costs nothing to make this choice but the rewards are immediate and eternal.
Our loving G-d has been faithful to His promises, emptied Himself to become a man born of a woman, knows what it is like to be among us, and paid the penalty or price that The Law dictates for sin. He loves us enough to give us free will. We can worship cars and houses and electronics and pornography and so on, or we can truly worship Him. He loves us enough that we can become our own gods (note the lower-case "g") and let us pay the penalty of our sins, eternal damnation in a lake of fire. It is a double edged sword having free will.
Perhaps someone else can take it from here!
CovenantRay :prayer:
Mary_Magdalene
30th December 2005, 07:51 PM
CovenantRay hit the nail on the head. :thumbsup:
Tishri1
30th December 2005, 09:47 PM
I've been thinking al ot lately, and I just can't seem to figure out why this is.
Why did God choose to kill so many people via plagues and catastrophies?
Why would a loving God send us to eternal hell?have you visited the thread in here on the nefilin? (spelled it wrong I'm sure:blush:
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Gwenyfur
30th December 2005, 10:37 PM
G-d gives everyone a choice.
Just as we give our children choices...now if they choose to live a life that is evil and unrighteous before the L-rd, then there are consequences STD's, addiction, pregnancy, death etc...
The people of Noah's generation rejected the L-rd, rejected His righteousness, and faced the consequences for that choice.
To me there seems to be little difference...
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