Would you turn a friend in?

[Droobie]

If you found out a someone was doing something illegal, would you turn them into the authorities? What if it were a friend, or perhaps a family member? Would it depend on what they were doing wrong?

[KeepTheFaith15]

if it was really really REALLY extremly horrible, yes i would. i know thats wrong but if it's wrong what their doing then yes i would tell, they would understand.

[Sharky]

it will depend. If it's small, i probably can't even force myself to. But if it was big, then yes. I would do it so fast my brain wouldn't even have time to rethink.

[ferment8]

it realli depends on wat crime........
if it's like stealing a mobile phone..... like some of my friends (not close friend) do, i dun think i'll turn them in.

but if it's like murder, then of course i will

[e4God]

Sin and crime do not change colors like a chameleon and somehow become OK just because the offender is a friend.

First I would try, one on one, to get them to handle it by repenting, apologizing, making restitution directly.

Then I would try, with another believer, to persuade them.

If that failed, I would have no choice but to turn them in.

I believe this is a biblical principle.

[wildernesse]

I would turn a friend in for doing something illegal--but only after they made it clear to me that they weren't going to turn themselves in.

I think that it would be difficult, because you would probably lose that friend--and maybe other friends as well--but that shouldn't stop you from doing what is right.

--tibac

[Pastor N.B.]

Is the driver of a car in the bank robbery guilty in just knowing about it, or in driving the car? The Word of God teaches yes! And that is where Caesar 'coppied' their law of liberty from, huh? ------P/N/B/

[ZiSunka]

If they threw a gum wrapper on the ground and littering is against the law, no, I would not turn them in. But if they harmed someone or did a hit-and-run accident or something, then I'd try to get them to turn themselves in, and failing at that, I'd do my duty to society and turn them in.

[Pastor N.B.]

True:
But you are not saying that the young'ins are not to spanked are you? You know, chastisements? Or do we not tell dad what they had done? Perhaps this is called liberalism, and is the trouble with not only the 'earthlings' but the Church's also? I suspect the question was that the person WAS GUILTY?

And what is 'jury duty' to be done with?? See 1 Cor. 6:1-3.---P/N/B/

[JustinWilliams]

I attend Liberty University and we have an honor code titled "The Liberty Way". In the code if we catch someone doing something that breaks the rules we are first to confront that person and give them 24 hours to turn themself in, if they do not then it is our responsibility to turn them in. This may seem like the old "tattle tale" game but in acctuality it is a good practice, because we are told to do similar actions within the church.

[Susan]

I would not unless it was a very serious crime. In anything other than a very serious crime I would seriously talk with the person, mention my concerns and the possible consequences, and if the person showed no remorse or no repentance, then I would tell someone else like their parent, sibling, whoever could help or seek out help.

[GodBoy809]

I think it depends on the crime at hand. something serious like murder or armed burglery yes, but i dunno about like maybe stealing a cd or something from a store probably not. I mean, i might tell his parents but not the cops.

[seebs]

Originally posted by Droobie
If you found out a someone was doing something illegal, would you turn them into the authorities?  What if it were a friend, or perhaps a family member?  Would it depend on what they were doing wrong?

It would depend, at the very least, on *whether* they were doing something wrong; lots of illegal things aren't wrong, and I'm not going to contribute to the enforcement of stupid laws.

In general, "continuing to do something wrong" I might turn in, "did something wrong in the past and repented" I wouldn't.

And yes, I'm aware that, within the statute of limitations, failing to turn someone in makes you an accessory. I think that's wrong, too.

[Pastor N.B.]

Lets get down to real facts as Christians? The sins of caesar ARE inportant, agreed! Rom. 13. The poll is high 56%?

But of more inportance is that in most denominations that I know of today, there are doctrines of [known] error. There are also known open sins of real accessory responsibility, & consequences! (that of eternal life) It seems that we would be the REAL terrorists, that of neglect, in having souls lost in the second death of eternity, by remaining silent?

Not to mention the theft seen of Joshua 7's sin of Achan where we read inspirations WARNING in verse 12"s last part! Or do we not BELIEVE the Word here?----P/N/B/

[layne]

I just hope no one I know would ever do anything serious, because I am a tattle tale!

[Susan]

To clarify, I *would* turn in a murderer: but I would not turn in someone who went 5 miles above the posted speed limit.

[Stormy]

I would report a child molester or anyone who is dangerous to himself or others.

[David Gould]

It would depend on the crime. I have not reported a friend for drink driving and going through a red light, although I lectured him for about an hour or so afterwards and he now agrees that what he did was wrong and will work at not doing it again.

I would not hesitiate over rape. Murder would depend - I do not trust the courts to necessarily uncover the truth. Someone could commit murder for an excuseable reason, imo, although it would be very rare and very hard for me to agree with. But it is possible.

[Pastor N.B.]

OK:
The polls are evening up. So we are seeing the real balance in our 'character' by more numbers perhaps?

Forget mans (Caesars) speed stuff & highway signs that [CAN] kill for a minute.

God says that we will receive the PLAGUES if we stay yoked to [OPEN SIN] denominations in Rev. 18:4. It seems that this LAST BOOKS INSPIRATION IS VERY CLEAR!? DO YOU BELIEVE GOD? If He did not tell 'HIS' PROPLE this CLEAR WARNING TRUTH, do you know that HE WOULD BE A PARTAKER of their 'yoked membership of OPEN SIN'? (And false KNOWN doctrines)

The verse says: (Douay Catholic version with added emphasis)
"And I heard another voice [from heaven] saying, "[Go out] from among HER, **MY people, [that ye may not share in *her sins, and that ye may *NOT RECEIVE OF HER PLAGUES]." -------P/N/B/

[HisLamb]

I would have to go with "depends".  If I saw a person that I knew was very poor stealing a loaf of bread to feed him/herself, then I would not.  I'd try to pay the store anonymously unless I knew the owner.  In the latter case, I'd pay the owner and explain...without naming names.  Then I'd try to be more helpful to the person who stole the bread.  Ask him/her to come to me for food rather than going against the law.

If it was a serious crime, or one that endangered others, of course, I'd have to think about reporting it.  (definitely if it endangered others...)

[rob3449]

Originally posted by Droobie
If you found out a someone was doing something illegal, would you turn them into the authorities?  What if it were a friend, or perhaps a family member?  Would it depend on what they were doing wrong?

I would turn them in, even if it would hurt me. 

[Pastor N.B.]

God is looking for UNITY. True or false? This 'poll' started out with most saying yes, they would turn a person in. Perhaps it was 58%? Now take a look at the poll of uncided ones??
Just suppose that this was a life or death decision being asked? (not them, but us) Does God want most people not being sure??
Try 1 Cor. 6:2-3.
Which group do you 'see' in unity as having scripture as their guide? Not sure huh?------P/N/B/

[Pastor N.B.]

Originally posted by rob3449
I would turn them in, even if it would hurt me. 
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Hi,
I am in S.C. And over in Charlotte N.C. a few years ago there was a 'decision' by a Church of God minister, I believe it was? And as most [Christians] know, church denominations have been slipping big time these past few years. (on t.v. & in the papers)

Would I turn in an OPEN CONTINUOUS violator of God is our bottom line question. Is it LOVE OR HATE :cry: Well to make the story short, this minister was 'convicted' that they, his denomination, were making big time mistakes! So what does he do???

Remember now, perhaps salary, car allowance, telephone & rent subsidies, tuition, pension & [all] that could be at stake? Then, there is the CHURCH STRUCTURE, who owned that? :) ;) .

Now: what would he or 'i' do???? Surely any called Pastor worth his salt would know what the [outcome would be if he did not fall into line?] Yet, perhaps the only way to let the TRUTH be known was for him to do the impossible as far as mans wisdom goes? (read the last 'verses' of this post?)

Well? I do not know about the man's heart, but I do know what he did! The 'vinyard' & all was taken from him by the DECISION to turn his evil denomination in, (AS HE BELIEVED) in a court battle. This kind of reminds me of the Master's Words in Isaiah 5:3 (i do not question his motive)

"And now, O inhabitants of Jerusalem, and men of Judah, [Judge, I PRAY YOU], [BETWIXT *ME AND *MY VINEYARD]." And verse 7 tells us who the 'Vinyard is'. (added emphasis) And then of course we see Rom. 2:28-29 & then Rev. 18:4!

Friend: Your missive is right on! And all else here will most likely find us'ins spinning our wheels? But you will know where i am coming from. [My last reference is Eze. 9] -----P/N/B/

PS: And i know that you know where your integrity will end!

[abbershay]

this is an incomplete poll. unless someone is killed or something .. I dont think tattling is a good thing. It comes down to do onto others as you would have done to yourself. Via if i wouldnt want to be tattled on i wouldnt tattle on others. I dont turn people in for the most part unless i am doing everything right myself.

[HisLamb]

Pastor NB, Would Jesus have turned a poor person in to the authorities of His day for stealing a loaf of bread?  That is one of the examples I gave in my post where I would not turn the person in.

Remember, Jesus did not give over the prostitute to be stoned.  Instead he told the people there, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."  And she had broken the law of those days and her punishment would have been death but for Jesus' words.

Now if this poll had asked at the beginning about some very serious crime, I think the answers would be more unified, as you put it.

[Pastor N.B.]

Hi Peggy,
you have a good point. Still Jesus said to go & sin NO more? But it is even more inlightening perhaps, to understand that this & others that the Master healed, and even called into His new ministry, were all from the Virgin [seed] sown of Israrel. Notice in Matt. 10:5-6 the Words of "LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL" (sent to by commandment!) Even James & John were called by Christ in a past tense setting, AS "THE SONS OF THUNDER"! (sounds like these ones were schooled with seed sown only at this time)
The COLD ONES OF REV. 3:16-17 (if any can understand this statement?) can be reached easier that the 'CONVERTED LUKEWARM' ones Christ says.
And [HE] says it even VERY STRONGLY! Lukewarm LOVE for the Master is sickening to Him, and the Laodicean denomination as His called 'denomination' ones, will be spewed out. try 1 Peter 4:17 & all of Eze. 9.

I was doing what you are saying about SIN or just mind reading judgement. Motives are not ours to READ! (agreed) Law breaking is when one breaks the Royal Law of God. Never is this to be just passed over.---P/N/B/

[Pastor N.B.]

Forum:
Some think that the Wheat & the Tares are OPEN sinners? Christ is talking about ALL here. Motives can NEVER be read nor neither would they want to be read by Christians. Yet OPEN, Presumptous sin is not to be tolerated. These ones ARE NOT TARES GROWING TOGETHER! Read Davids Words after his fall & conversion in Psalms 19:13. Think on the inspiration of the Words 'ALSO FROM'? And what is PRESUMPTION?

In Numbers 15:29-31 we see the Word of 'BECAUSE HE HATH DESPISED THE WORD OF THE LORD". Continuing on in unrepentent know sin knowingly is OPEN PRESUMPTION. Notice these words in part perhaps?

"Ye shall have one law for him that [sinneth through ignorance], both him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them. BUT THE SOUL THAT DOETH AUGHT PRESUMPTUOUSLY, whether he be born in the land, or a stranger, [THE SAME REPROACHES THE LORD; AND THAT SOUL SHALL BE CUT OFF FROM AMOUNG THE PEOPLE. BECAUSE he has DESPISED THE WORD OF THE LORD, AND HATH BROKEN HIS COMMANDMENT, THAT SOUL SHALL UTTERLY BE CUT OFF; HIS INIQUITY SHALL BE UPON him.]" (try Heb. 6:6)

Now for another good looking group in mans eyes? Are they Christians?
And why did they not fall in the same catergory of Rom. 8:1 after they had offered the Lamb sacrifice by faith?? See Num. 16. (in part) These were all given time to repent if they would! Notice that the people were even to seperate from this group or be destroyed! (see Rev. 18:4) Here is some of what is said in inspiration:

"And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty PRINCES of the assembly, FAMOUS IN THE CONGREGATION, MEN OF RENOUN:

And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron,
(quite demoralizing to most perhaps? Two men against 250 famous men of renoun) and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, (NOW NOTICE!) [SEEING *ALL THE CONGREGATION ARE HOLY EVERY ONE OF THEM, *AND THE LORD IS AMONG THEM.]" Was He? :confused:
You will want to see the ending perhaps? But, notice in verse 5 that these 'saints' who they say 'has God amoung them' were given 24 hrs. to be certain that they wanted to go down this road. :cry: Try Cain in Gen. 4:6-7.

And all of this from a Loving God that is 'the same yesterday, today and forever' & that tells us that He 'changeth not'!:clap:!
-----P/N/B/

[reAsonX]

Greater love is for the friend... not for the state.

Judas turned in Jesus to the state

[4jc]

Depends, how big it the reward? :) $1,000,000 :eek: your going to jail buddy.
It all depends on what happened, simple as that :D

[Pastor N.B.]

Originally posted by 4jc
Depends, how big it the reward? :) $1,000,000 :eek: your going to jail buddy.
It all depends on what happened, simple as that :D
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No. 1--"how big is the reward'? (you ask)

So what is Gods purpose in 'jail time'?
He wants one to reform! Surrender the will! see Jude 22. "And of [some] have compassion, making a difference; And [others] SAVE WITH FEAR pulling them out of the fire ..." (after each one is finally 'converted' they then and [only then] have the new LOVING RECREATED HEART.

No. 2---"It depends on what happened, simple as that" (you say)

True! Yet, it is never to be covered over! Matt. 18:15-18.
And if one is already 'born again' (?) we find that... "For whom the Lord loveth He chasteneth, and [scourageth EVERY SON HE RECEIVETH]." Heb. 12:6. Yet we say, it depends Lord? Or are we saying Lord, we love these ones TOOOO much to see them spanked? Truely Lord, is your way REALLY LOVE??? (We need to wake up to know what TRUE AGAPE LOVE is all about!)

Now notice the verses of 7-8 ibide. Think of the thread.. 'Would you turn your friend in' --- [Lord?]
"["IF"] ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if [ye be without chastisements, WHEREOF YE ARE PARTAKERS, THEN ARE YE --------, [AND NOT SONS]." (the blank would be censored out by the forum) But it TELLS US THAT WE WILL BE SEVERED FROM THE MASTER IF WE WILL NOT DO THE HARD CHASTISEMENTS THAT HE REQUIRES US TO DO, just because it goes against our very nature or feelings!

Do we realize that Chastisements come in many packages? The one of a beginning in the Lord's work perhaps? Teaching the bible lesson for the [first time?] It takes committement. It gets easier as one continues on. Then perhaps comes the first sermon? Easy? No way. This is a real [human] chastisement at first. One might rather be whipped than get up in front of people?
Then comes the hardest part of lifes chastisements perhaps?? DOING THINGS THAT THE LORD REQUIRES. Say that you feel miserably, headacke, and have been up most of the night doing the Lord's work & then comes sermon time? What do you say then???

Now: For the Last 'SAVING PLAGUE' (of chastisment for a called Pastor) It is once again in doing the thing that GOD REQUIRES, that is, TRUELY AGAINST ONES NATURE! What is that?? Look at this verse:

"But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take [any] person from [among them], he [is taken away in his iniquity; but HIS BLOOD WILL I REQUIRE AT THE WATCHMAN'S HAND". Eze. 33:6

Sounds 'simple' 'clear' and to coincide? Now, are professed Christians FAITHFUL TODAY IS THE REAL QUESTION? Look at the churches? Perverted doctrines, moral DECAY, abortion & even with counsel from 'c'hristian doctors, pastors, mom's & dad's saying its ok, have the abortion. Then we see homesexual OPEN members in the yoked membership of many denominations, & even some OPENLY gay professed ministers!

And what about that SWORD of Eze. to come, being preached???
It IS ALREADY HERE!! (The SWORD that is) And what do we hear from most all? We will be RAPTURED AWAY BEFORE THAT TIME, they say. But the TRUTH is that you are here, now, TODAY, and this is the LITTLE START OF THE TIME OF TROUBLE!--P/N/B/

[Hank]

I voted depends. (yes, I know I am late again :) )


First which authorities? Not all authorities are accepted by me.
Which laws? Don't forget totalitarian states do have laws which need to be obeyed.

It really depends, and in general I never have nor probably ever will turn someone in. If he is a close buddy we'll talk and if I can convince that person that he should turn himself in, so be it. The justice system is so corrupt; all you need is a good lawyer to get off most charges anyhow.

[Patty]

I can't respond to this.

I am a nonarchist.


Patty

[Gerry]

Originally posted by Patty
I can't respond to this.

I am a nonarchist.


Patty

:D I am afraid your humor is wasted here. But the dryness is appreciated by at least a few of us. You are apparently one of the English Albino Gorilla's

[Pastor N.B.]

Originally posted by Patty
I can't respond to this.

I am a nonarchist.


Patty
***************
Hi,
interesting picture to the left of your missive. I am wondering if you have 'knee caps' like my wife & I have???? Hay, I am sincere here in S.C.!-----P/N/B/

[reAsonX]

Originally posted by Gerry
:D I am afraid your humor is wasted here. But the dryness is appreciated by at least a few of us. You are apparently one of the English Albino Gorilla's

 

hahahahahahahaha

[Seraphiel]

No.

[Nosa Eresu]

Illegal, hmm? If he was smoking pot in his own home, no. But the moment he steps behind the wheel of a car in that state, you betcha. Harm to oneself has to be dealt with individually. Harm to others has to be stopped.

[coastie]

I've had to do it in the past.

I had a buddy sellling drugs and I turned him in. I actually did it for his own good, and maybe someday he'll forgive me, and perhaps even say thank you.

[ciccia]

:P :

[ciccia]

I've never turned anyone in but if push came to shove I would

[jko]

nope.

[lucypevensie]

Well, let's just suppose that my daughter gets molested (horror of horrors and I pray to God it NEVER happens) and YOU KNEW who did that to her and DID NOT TURN THE CREEP IN?!?!

That's all I have to say.

[Blessed-one]

depends on the crime and whether or not he/she's repentent.

[lookinguptoo]

They would have to do a serious crime that endangered or wronged others.  If they were a druggy, I would try to persuade them to get help.  If they refused, I probably would.  If they murdered an innocent person, I definately would.  If they were a thief, I would try to persuade them to return the money or items and make amends with the victim, but if they refused or continued this behaviour, I would.  If they kicked their dog, I would not.  If they cheated on their taxes, and they told me, I would tell them this is wrong and they should be honest, and leave them to think about this, but I would not turn them in.  Basically it depends on how serious the crime.  Actually, if I found they were a dishonest person, I doubt I would count them as a friend for long.

[Pastor N.B.]

Hi,
it looks like the not sure ones are catching up?

Forget Caesar for the moment. What about open unrepentant sin in the 'denomination'?? Would we turn them in? Hay, this is printed stuff! Ours & others perhaps? T.V.'ised, DOCUMENTED! (in the heavenly record books also! see Dan. 7:9-10 or Rev. 20:12, ALONG WITH OUR SICK WITTNESS as seen in Rev. 3:16-17)

Notice the Lord's Word that most of today do not care to know about? In Joshua 7 we see that Israel hath sinned? Yet in verse 20 we see that it was Achan that sinned & after being pointed out by God, he finally confessed that the [TROUBLE] that [ALL] of Israel had, & were [forsaken of God because of], was because of his him, his sin!

Verse one: "But the children of Israel committed a trespass in the accursed thing: .." Verse 11 says "ISRAEL HATH SINNED, ..."

Verse 12 "Therefore the children of Israel could not stand before their enemies, ... NEITHER WILL I BE WITH YOU ANYMORE, [EXCEPT] YE DESTROY THE [ACCURSED FROM AMONG YOU]."

Even then God gave time for Joshua to repent! Each test came & went until
there was NO ESCAPE! Remember that in verse 5 this sin caused the death of [36 men]. This was because God had left them ALL to themselves. They were ALL guilty in association. (try Rev. 18:4)

Yet, if this does not catch our eye, remember that the theft was hid 'in the midst of my tent' . verse 21. He knew what the results of this act would be! For his wife that he loved? Children? The Lord of his life, in profession anyhow? Verse 25 tells us who WAS THE TROUBLE THAT CAUSED GOD'S DEPARTURE!? verse 7 tells of his & his families fatal judgement by God.

This was the responsibility of the Lords 'therocracy' of the O.T. God ordained this personal one on one judgement with leadership. See Ex. 28:30 or Num. 27:21. And in the N.T. it was to be [our responsibility]! See Matt. 16:19 & Matt. 1815-18. But notice that removal from church membership is seen in comparison to the Eternal Death sentence in verse 18. Is that clear? God directed Achan to be executed after THREE direct attempts to get him to repent! First, a DAY PASSED! Then 'your tribes' came forth, then '[the] tribe' then 'the familes therefore' then the 'housholds' and then 'man by man'! Do you think that your heart would be pounding? What would have happened if there had been repentance? Read Gen. 4:6-7. You CAN KNOW FOR SURE THAT GOD STILL WOULD HAVE FORGIVEN HIM!! "IF". See Matt. 23:38 for a whole Virgin denomination! (in doctrines only)

So, where is God today as far as the Professed Protestants of Earth are concerned?? Protestants??????

So the bottom line about any known [open unrepentant crime (sin) is what]?? Notice that these ones in Rev. 18:4 are are said to be the Master's people!! Yet if ACTION is not taken, they ARE RESPONSIBLE for ...
THAT YE BE NOT PARTAKERS OF HER SINS, and that ye receive [not of her plagues]." Seeing that this is an eternal life or eternal death matter, perhaps these ones had best do some study on THEIR RESPONSIBILITY in who or whom we might turn in???
---P/N/B/

[Extirpated Wildlife]

I think the issue resides in the definition of caring for someone. I think most people are unwilling to be as responsible as they ought to be.

Its a stupid remark to say, "well if they were truly repentive of the situation i wouldn't turn them in". The answer to this is easy. If they turned themselves in, then they were truly repentive. If they got themselves help, then they truly were repentive.

Someone who shoplifts or steals isnt repentive if they don't go back and confess.
Someone who murders isnt repentive if they don't turn themselves in.
Someone who raped someone isnt truly repentive if they dont turn themselves in.

Folks. The answer to whether they are repentive is easy. You never have to decide on whether to turn them in AND whether they are truly repentive if if they confess to the proper authorities.

IF they don't then you ought to. And you are not a friend if you dont. And they are not a friend if they dis you for that. You need to find a real friend if they hate you for that.

[caley]

Originally posted by Droobie
If you found out a someone was doing something illegal, would you turn them into the authorities?  What if it were a friend, or perhaps a family member?  Would it depend on what they were doing wrong?

If my friend killed or raped someone, or shoplifted I would in a heartbeat.

If my friend were guilty of selling drugs or something like that, I wouldn't.

[MetalBlade]

Well, it depends on what that person did. If he lied about something, I probably wouldn't turn him in. But if he killed someone, I would turn him in!!

[bop1997]

YES..it owuld hurt and GOD would have to have his hand on it, but if it is up to turning them in or being hell bound, I would have to turn them in. Especially if they are doing something wrong...GOD does not condone wrongness....and you would be hurting them more than helping if you didn't!

[RickiAnn]

I would try to convince my friend to turn themselves in first. If they agree, then I'm off the hook. :) But if they don't, I would turn them in, although it would be EXTREMELY diffucult.

><>Ricki Ann<><

[Konnie]

Yes, I would.

[GlowingFirefly]

It all depends on what the situation is. If it is small enough, I would never be able to do. But if it was something serious, I would have no choice but to turn them in.

[Snowy]

I don't know if I could do it or not..I just hope I would do the right thing

[Dyrwen]

It would depend on the situation. If he was doing something illegal, but not harming me in anyway, I wouldn't care.

I really can't see any reason I would ever turn someone in, outside of a reward. Even then, it'd have to be steep.

[Kathy]

It depends..how big of a crime? Something small..no,I wouldn't turn them in BUT! something really big..yes,I would in a heart beat!

[admtaylor]

Sin and crime do not change colors like a chameleon and somehow become OK just because the offender is a friend.

First I would try, one on one, to get them to handle it by repenting, apologizing, making restitution directly.

Then I would try, with another believer, to persuade them.

If that failed, I would have no choice but to turn them in.

I believe this is a biblical principle.

Well said!

[EnterHisgateswithpraise]

I was thinking about this today ,and in most cases it would be wrong to turn some one in to authorities.Thats the authorities job ,not mine.Id rather see them to deal with the situation aright,maybe I could help them ,even prayer would help.

Remember when Rahab lied to the authorities about spys from Israel?

I think we must decide which Kingdom are we serving?

[dbaryl]

I was thinking about this today ,and in most cases it would be wrong to turn some one in to authorities.Thats the authorities job ,not mine.Id rather see them to deal with the situation aright,maybe I could help them ,even prayer would help.

Remember when Rahab lied to the authorities about spys from Israel?

I think we must decide which Kingdom are we serving?I would have to disagree. Have a look at this scripture:

"Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every authority instituted among men: whether to the king, as the supreme authority, or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right." [Peter 2:13-14]

Now, that does not mean that the Christians should have turned their Christian friends (or themselves) in to a government that prosecutes Christians simply for their belief (just like in the days of the Apostles, or in many countries today).

Many people have brought up that it would depend on what kind of authorities there were. Naturally, if the law is corrupt (say, prosecution of Christians), you do not turn your friend in, but in general this will not be the case. I think we can safely assume that the poll applies to a case where the person had actually done something wrong, not simply break an unjust law.

[dbaryl]

Personally, I would like to see myself do the right thing and turn my friend in, but I think that I would have a really hard time doing that, and would most likely not be able to make myself do it. I do know that I would definitely point it out to my friend and tell them that they did something wrong and should do whatever it takes to fix the problem, but I think that in general I'd leave it on their conscience after that. I do not see my friends committing some serious crime, and this is the reason why I think talking with them and convincing them to do the right thing would be enough.

The above applies to "smaller" trespasses against the law like shoplifting, etc. A murderer, rapist, etc would most definitely get turned it, though.

[Lotar]

Maybe if they murdered someone, otherwise no. I'd just try to get them to turn themselves in.

[Job24]

I have been in the Criminal Justice system for a while and I have learned one thing... if you dont tell then you may be in trouble to...

one of my jobs was to be an employee investigator for a retail company. I had to find theft within the company and route out any and all employees that committed any kind of fraud against the company. Some of the employees were close friends but that was my job and in the end I had to do what I had to do...

of course if someone raped and killed my little sister and my brother took revenge and killed the guy who did it then I would very torn... I guess I would keep it to myself and pray that he turns himself in

[Lotar]

If it was just a friend I would probably turn them in for most things, but I would most likely tell them first.
But if they were a close friend, I probably wouldn't turn them in for anything unless it put me in a place where I might get in trouble.
For family, I wouldn't turn them in for anything short of cold blooded murder, or child molestation.

[Kibeth]

Of course, I would turn them in. Even if it was my friend... it's illegal, and if I don't turn the person in, I would be part of the deal...

[Durelen]

Illegal? Nah, if I did that I’d be to busy all day long to do anything else. You have any idea how many laws we have in the US? There are so many laws in the US that you may be breaking one just by reading this post, you never know.

Anyhoot I voted “not sure” since it depends.

[A Taffer]

A crime is a crime and I would still turn the person in.

[mesue]

Again, I would refer to Matthew 18. If my friend were breaking the law I would speak to my friend. If my friend continued, I would bring another friend. If it still continued I would bring my Pastor. After that then I'd turn my friend in. That's three chances for the person to repent.

[James Sez]

To use a popular example, Jews who were hiding from the Nazis were breaking the law. Would you turn them in?

[Teniosa]

If they threw a gum wrapper on the ground and littering is against the law, no, I would not turn them in. But if they harmed someone or did a hit-and-run accident or something, then I'd try to get them to turn themselves in, and failing at that, I'd do my duty to society and turn them in.
lamb sums up my views pretty well :)

Teni

[wow]

:wave:

[HMM]

I did, my brother, he forgave me...it took him six months...he knows I was right to do it. It took a lot of prayer for me to turn him in/rat him out. I now know God used me in that situation and I'm thankful!

[The_Saint]

Seems like most people would betray a trust in someone if that person broke the law. However, God is recording everything and if the lawbreaker also commits sin against God, that person could be dropped and also be cut off. I've seen it before and many times. So, it is not necessary to turn in a friend because God is watching!

God has also noted that people actually LIE to protect friends and family members. So, He is used to it and like I said, He has the actual record in His files.

[kaleidoscope_visions]

Absolutely not, I don't belive in the "authorities ".

[Dr Kimble]

Aiding or helping a criminal is also a crime. If a friend screws up, then he/she has to pay the price like anyone else. Helping the police in any way to bring in a criminal is the best way to go...besides if it is not a bigger crime then they will only serve minimal time...what they deserve. No murderer should be allowed to roam free. Hypothetical here: let's say my friend killed three people, but I know he is a "good person" and screwed up just once and I don't want to turn him in...would you be p'od at me if he killed a loved one of yours because I didn't turn him in when it was 100% easy and possible? Most likely. The same goes for any crime, why should a criminal of theft get off because it is a "lesser" crime?

Of course if they are innocent and you honestly believe them, then helping them in any way to prove that innocense is definatley okay, whether you get in trouble or not for helping them, it is worth it.

[Dawn Marie]

It depends on what it is they are doing that is illegal.

If they hurt someone, or anything like that... then yes.

[MaddyO3]

Actually, a few weeks ago, a good friend of mine brought a knife into our school during a basketball game. I was one of the few people who witnessed it, and I had to turn him in because I was afraid of what he'd do with the knife to his sister in the car with him. It was a hard decision, and I know that he's gotten into a lot of trouble for what he did. I regret turning him in sometimes.

[crystalpc]

It would depend. What for? If a friend broke the law and did a violent crime Yes I would have to say that I would. If I couldn't convince them to turn themselves in.We are to abide by the law of the land.
However, there is one thing that supercedes mans law, and that is God's law. If the law changed tomorrow, and said it is a crime to be a christian, then God's law prevails.

[Seph]

Im not shure since it realy would depend on the situation

for instace if they had done something very wrong/evil then it would be better to turn him/her over but on the outher hand if you KNOW that he/she has been wrongly accused then it would probably not be the best idea to turn them over (well i wouldent in that situation)

[BabbleOn8806]

i was going to say yes, and then i thought about my friends... to be an Honest YES i would be on the phone calling the police right now :(

[GraceReborn]

It depends.

[HolySpiritWarrior]

e4God:
Sin and crime do not change colors like a chameleon and somehow become OK just because the offender is a friend.

First I would try, one on one, to get them to handle it by repenting, apologizing, making restitution directly.

Then I would try, with another believer, to persuade them.

If that failed, I would have no choice but to turn them in.

I believe this is a biblical principle.

I totally agree with that... :wave:

[~PICKLE~]

:sigh: I have and will do it again. My husbands brother jumped parol out of Texas, he went to Arizona and caused alot of hardship on his own parents then he came here to Texas and caused alot of grief on us and his ex wife. To the point everyone was scared when he was around, the last straw was him beating up his wife and treating to kill me un born baby if I walked out that door to call the law. That day I didn't call the law, cause I believed him. But things got worse, he went back to Arizona and got a job, but he was still causing problems. His parol officer called my house looking for him, I told him what he needed to know. Where he worked and lived and what he was up to. I later told my hubby what I did, and he agreed it was for the best. A week later the laws came to his work and picked him up in AZ. HE spent 2 years in Huntsville. He then got out and he hasn't changed--needless to say he's back in jail in Az. for leading a car chase from Flagstaff to Pheniox. Some people never learn!!! :cry:

[~PICKLE~]

If you think that was rough, where I live, well, we kindof live in the getto. What I mean is want-to-be drug dealing and young kids that think they're a gang. If they only knew!! Anyways, alot of these young kids (16-23) Would hand out and sell they're C**ck and they would do it for everybody to see, even the kids. My 4 year old told me what Cr**k was. So I got out my video camera and taped them from inside my house. I caught one of the biggest exchanges. Right out in the open, needless to say, also in front of about 10 kids. I mean you saw exactly what was trading hands. It was pretty sad. What if they would of gotten robbed and guns came out, what would happen to those kids. Anyways almost all the drug dealin is out cause of my video. The police had alot to go on and the swat wasn't playin' when they made the bust. Normally I wouldn't do something like that, but all I could think about are those kids. It would be kind- of different if all that went on inside instead of out in front of The whole neighborhood.

[Tier]

The question was about friends. I would turn a family member in, but it would require more thought about a friend. I don't know why.

[Wolflily]

I wish I could say, "definitely" turn a friend, or family member, in if he or she were committing an illegal act, but I really don't know for sure. My loyalty to the people I love runs deep and it would be difficult, even though I know ultimately it would be for their own good.

[hisyuk04]

i would if they were doing somthing that was illegal that could hurt themselves or somone else :rolleyes:

[SHAKAKU]

I would have to agree to turn in a person because it is the right thing to do, but then when your friends get back from recieving help there is a trust issue sometimes.

[Mrs K 2004]

If my friend were doing something that could hurt themselves or someone else then I would most definatly turn them in! Although as someone before said... if they spit their gum out the car window on the freeway; then I would probably just tell them "not cool" and I wouldn't call the police on them for that!

[Scarmiglione]

I would never turn in a friend to the authorities, that would be a despicable thing to do. Friendship is a more important obligation than any duty to uphold the laws of the government.

Now, if the friend had commited a crime against me or mine, that might be different, but in that case they have ceased to be a friend. I would probably settle the matter myself rather than involve la policia in that case, anyway...

[Kathryn]

On what grounds would you turn him in? On account of your own self-righteous morality or are you protecting someone, even that very friend? See, love forgives and bears all things but it also protects. Once you call the police you've probably surrendered any chance of ministering to them or repairing that relationship so chose wisely.

[his excellence]

Usually I wouldnt at least before confronting my friend about it, but recently we had a friend staying with us, my husband saw her go through his pants pockets and she stole 40.00 a week prior I noticed money missing from my wallet as well as my son is missing his color gameboy sp and all games over 300.00 value, we confronted her, told her that we saw her the one time in husbands pants pockets and she denied it, though she being homeless except to stay with us , unemployed had money to buy beer with and run her truck all over town. This is the one time I had to make a police report , if she had confessed to what she had done, maybe it would of been different but she outright lied. She is no longer staying in my home either, she took off fast when she learned that we reported the thefts.

She is an alcoholic who refuses help, she has a past with drugs , I cannot say she is currently doing them I have no proof therefore cannot accuse on that one, but he life is a mess and we are told by God to not associate with people who are not walking right as friends. Helping to encourage them to get help yes we are called to do, but to allow them access in our homes and in our daily lives they only will drag us down not build us up.

[donutman_jr]

if they had done something really bad like murder or treason (i know thats a bit extreme but you know) i would. But if it wasnt that bad i wouldnt

[Apologetic]

It depends, you know... If the friend had murdered somebody or committed a robbery, yes, but for anything less - no. I wouldn't.

[kstam]

Many years ago, I had a friend who worked illegally while studying here as a foreign student. His family was poor and he had to work to support himself. I didn't turn him in because it would ruin his life. But if he was selling drugs, or hurting someone, I would turn him in.

The Bible tells us a story in Joshua 2 about a woman in the city of Jericho who hid the spies. This woman did not turn in the spies to the authority and lied about where they were. In James 2:25, she was justified about her faith and her work.

In Canada, it is now illegal to spank a child using objects such as a wooden spoon. Yet the Bible says "do not spare the rod". (The parents of seven kids were taken to court and their children taken away from them because they had spanked their children using a belt. The children were dragged kicking and screaming on July 4 2001 from their home in Ontario.) Now if you follow the Bible to spank a child using a rod, you will go to court and your child will be separated from you.

In Canada, the court ruled that the traditional marriage definition between a man and a woman is unconstitutional. They told us that the traditional marriage definition is wrong.

Bill C-250 was passed that any negative comments about homosexuals will be considered hate literature. Some one who advertised Bible verses that speaks against homosexuals on a newspaper was sued. Eventually the Bible will be classified as hate literature under the law. The preacher who speaks against homosexuality can be considered as promoting hatred and will be jailed.

The list goes on...

Now will you turn everyone in when they've done something illegally?

[Kathryn]

The Bible tells us a story in Joshua 2 about a woman in the city of Jericho who hid the spies. This woman did not turn in the spies to the authority and lied about where they were. In James 2:25, she was justified about her faith and her work.

Great Point!


In Canada, it is now illegal to spank a child using objects such as a wooden spoon. Yet the Bible says "do not spare the rod". (The parents of seven kids were taken to court and their children taken away from them because they had spanked their children using a belt. The children were dragged kicking and screaming on July 4 2001 from their home in Ontario.) Now if you follow the Bible to spank a child using a rod, you will go to court and your child will be separated from you.

Actually, if you were to be obedient to the Bible, you would take the rebellous child out and stone him in the square. Don't use the OT to justify breaking a law. I'm all about spanking my kids but there is never a case to use any object other than your hand on their butt to do so.

[kstam]

Actually, if you were to be obedient to the Bible, you would take the rebellous child out and stone him in the square. Don't use the OT to justify breaking a law.

You are referring to Deut 21:18-21 about stoning a rebellious son who will not listen to the parents when they discipline him. Stoning to death is the most severe punishment under the OT law. Of course I will not stone my son to death, but I will take him to the local authorities and have him punish under the local law if he cannot be corrected.

Don't use the OT to justify breaking a law.

So it is OK to use the NT to justify breaking a law? "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness" 2 Tim 3:16. I will use both OT and NT to teach, rebuke, correct and train my children.

I'm all about spanking my kids but there is never a case to use any object other than your hand on their butt to do so.

I disagree. But this topic about spanking should be discussed in a different thread.

[Kathryn]

You are referring to Deut 21:18-21 about stoning a rebellious son who will not listen to the parents when they discipline him. Stoning to death is the most severe punishment under the OT law. Of course I will not stone my son to death, but I will take him to the local authorities and have him punish under the local law if he cannot be corrected.

So you like to follow one part of the verse but not the other? Well, if you try to live by the OT Law you are forced to do such things.

So it is OK to use the NT to justify breaking a law? "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness" 2 Tim 3:16. I will use both OT and NT to teach, rebuke, correct and train my children.

Seeing the NT tells you to obey the laws of the land, becoming all things to all people, I'd say you're statement doesn't make sense.

Use the OT to teach, by all means, but do not live under those laws for your own salvation and the salvation of your children. Especially, when Jesus told us not to have the attitudes of OT in the sermon on the mount. Jesus DIED to set us free from those laws, why on earth do so many people want to be subject to them again??

Hebrews 8:13
By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

[kstam]

So you like to follow one part of the verse but not the other? Well, if you try to live by the OT Law you are forced to do such things.

The first 5 books of OT is the Law. These are the rules and regulations that Hebrews 8:13 is referring to. Yes Jesus died to set use free from these laws. Therefore when reading the commandments, rules and regulations in the first 5 books, we need to use our judgements not to follow them blindly and strictly. This is evident when Jesus healed a sick person on a Sabbath day.

Hebrews 7:18-19 "The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God." It is referring specifically to the Laws of Moses (again, first 5 OT books), not the entire OT.

"Do not spare the rod" comes from Proverbs. This is a book of wisdom and it talks a lot about parenting. Proverbs is not part of the "OT Law". It gives good suggestions on how to teach and discipline children. I'd like to follow those suggestions. If you don't want to take those suggestions, you are not wrong. But you shouldn't judge other people when they are following them.

Please don't ignore the teachings in OT and consider them obsolete. You are missing a lot.

[Kathryn]

The part about OT law was in regards to the Deut. verse. I read and treasure the OT but I do not live according to the attitudes and methods the people displayed when it is contrary to the teachings of Christ. Really, you would never hit your child with a rod (I hope) so even though I appreciate the wisdom in that verse, and it does apply to my life, we don't live according to those standards since Christ came. So using that verse to justify breaking the laws of society when Jesus said to live peacefully, and in obedience to those laws is, in truth, breaking a known commandment of Jesus to follow the advice of an OT human king who lived under a different set of rules.

Every time we use the OT to justify brutality, hate or judgment, we sacrifice our true and commanded purpose of living out and teaching Christ's commandments. That puts us in opposition to our Lord when we are called to follow Him.

[matt84]

yes, i know a sin is a sin no matter what it is, but if it was something small - no. something really bad Yes

[daidhaid]

one more reason not to like Christians...
You'll even rat out a friend.

[MYMOM]

YES

[deornie]

Never there are things bigger than human laws, I would stay on my friend's/family side and rather turn myself in then them...

[but'n'ben]

I remember when my brother was 14 or 15 (he's 23 now) my mum found out he was smoking underage. She dragged him down to the police station to get him to tell them who sold him the ciggies. I think what made her so angry was that the shop that was selling him the ciggies knew he was way underage because they had know us since we were little kids. I know it's not exactly murder, but it cured him and it cured the owners of the shop.

[GinooKo]

It depends on the circumstances.

[TrustNo1]

i would turn them in because it is illegal. if it was stealing or somethign petty then i would want them to turn themselves in because if they are found it is a lot worse. if they murder or something like that then yes i would. I am planning on becoming a cop and ive thought "what if one of my friends were speeding would i pull them over and give them a ticket?" and i answered yes i would.

[sammipher]

I would not have a problem turning a friend in for something that was really bad they have done or something they were going to do that would hurt them or someone else.

[Mistblood]

The question has alot of mitigating factors. Obviously, I wouldn't let them do something that was potentially deadly/harmful to others, but I also don't want to come across as someone who would be a tattletale. That violates not only their trust, but also builds me a reputation as someone who can't be trusted with anything or is a rumormonger, and that is even worse. In my opinion, there are tons of things that can be done besides just going to the authorities. Personal or group intervention, confronting the problem, advice from peers, and the like are all great ways of helping people without needing to go straight behind their back to the top. In the end, yes, but not without trying to confront them in other ways.

[Glorianna]

Sinning is sinning. People need to take responsibility for their actions.

[mle]

yes i would after I told them I was planning to do so and encouraging them to turm themself in.

[brotherChristian]

Personally, No. Here is why:
Ezekiel 3:18-19 makes it clear that we have a responsibility to the sinner to warn him/her. Once we have alerted the person to the sin, it is then the responsibility of the sinner to turn from it.
Jesus, on several occasions, told us to submit to authority. But as far as punishment is concerned, in John 8 He said that if a person has never sinned, they may carry out punishment of a sinner. This was a trick answer, of course; there has never been a human, save Jesus Himself, who is without sin. And Jesus never turned anybody in to the authorities.

[oldrooster]

Yes, after giving the person the chance to do the honorable thing.

[jeshohaia]

I am required to by law to report any activities like murder, child abuse, etc. Any life threatening crimes. But if I saw that that was what they needed to come to grips with their crime I would. Out of love. But if they were being persecuted for their faith by no means would I turn them in. I am talking about just laws in a just society.

[Niko]

only if they killed someone or stole 1,000,000 or something like that. If it was for something dumb like persecution or dowloading stuff illegally i wouldnt turn them in.

[wildthing]

Yes Sin/crime is all the same thing. I would do it. But I would also want it known that under no circumstances is my name to be made known. Liberty Way, whatever Yes I am a rat

[RocketMan]

I'd have to dob them in if it was something really bad and they were still doing it but if it was something small and one off I'd probably turn a blind eye or just tell them what I thought of it rather than handing them over to the authorities as this can more often cause harm than good.

[abeautifuldeath]

i sure wouldn't!

[awksm]

yes it does depend

[kat00_ca]

I would only turn them in for something like theft (like stealing from a store or bank) or murder, etc.

[Wing]

if the friend was beyond redemption then yes.

[Roxa]

I am not sure if I would turn a friend in...I guess it depends what teh friend did.

[Big C]

I grew to think that the worst form of being (after child molesters) was a snitch! I've taken the heat for things my homeboys had did, just as others have taken the heat for my actions in the past...as a Christian however, I have yet to face this situation. Interesting subject!

[OceanAngel]

I would turn in a child molester no problem, I have no tolerance towards 'people' like that.

[Bladecarver]

It would depend on what they were doing. I wouldn't turn them in out of spite or hatred, but out of love. If you love the person, then you need to confront them on what they are doing, and hopefully get them to understand what they are doing is wrong, and maybe they'll turn themselves in.

[Billnew]

I would turn in anyone that commited a felony.
Smaller crimes would be case by case.
Friends and family know my stand against drugs and know that I would
turn them in with disgust and disappointment.

If you buy drugs, you pay for the crime we have today.
You bought the bullets and gun that were used to kill the kids, you paid for the car that lures kids into drugs. You support the person that makes people rob, murder, rape,
and support South American regimes.
Drugs cause crime.
Bill

[beatarmy2]

I hate this question. I know that if this happened, I should do the right thing, but turning a friend in is not easy...

[G4M5Y5]

I voted yes...and in return if I was the one they were looking for I would want my friend to turn me in too.

[Milla]

Maybe it is just because of my distrust of the justice system, but I would only turn someone in if I thought he or she was dangerous for other people.

[hiz_child]

I would have to say "depends"....I would let the person know that I didn't approve of their actions, but I wouldn't run to the authorities for every little thing. I'm not going to spend my life tattling on friends who don't register their dog or burn without a permit, etc, etc, etc. If there was something that was going to harm someone or already did I would report it. There has to be a limit or you will drive all your friends away.

[caitlincares]

Confrontation first (either myself or someone else)
Then YES I would turn someone in.

:)

[Unique]

I think I would turn a friend in but I really don't know.

[rubberduckie]

good response Unique :) I think what I would do is first prayer really hard and read my Bible. Then I would talk to my friend and ask them first, Did they tellan adult or authority,and then I would aske them to turn themselves in. If they did not, it would be my duty to turn them in, but it wouldn't be easy.

[violetstar]

Yes, depends on the crime if it is something major I would tell, but if it something minor I would pray that he will tell on his self.:sigh:

[Mimi]

Not sure, depends on the crime and if the friend told me in confidence. I would talk to her or him and ask to go to the autorities him/herself. I think friendship, true friendship is unconditional. I would support my friend the whole way and even visit my friend in prison.

[TheMainException]

If it's illegal, it's illegal. That's all there is to it. I would first talk to them about it and see if I could help them out of their trouble though.

[stillblessed]

see i would have to pray about it,for the word says render not evil for evil,would i be doing this out of anger,payback,or concern.

[indeep]

It depends on the nature/seriousness of what they are doing. If it was something serious, I would first confront them about it, and let them know what I was doing. As someone who has been on the 'wrong' end of the law so to speak, I know that it is tough at first, but knowing that your friends and fellow christians are there for you is really important.

[kua2u]

Not sure, depends on the crime and if the friend told me in confidence. I would talk to her or him and ask to go to the autorities him/herself. I think friendship, true friendship is unconditional. I would support my friend the whole way and even visit my friend in prison.

I'm with her. The only thing I would break a confidence for is something that radically hurt another human being, such as rape and murder. Otherwise, I'd listen and encourage them to think about it and get help.

[LiberatedChick]

I think it'd depend on the crime. For a small crime I'd not turn them in but I would talk to them. I'd explain that what they're doing or have done is wrong and try to get them to think how they'd feel if they were the one affected by there actions. If it was a major crime, then I'd turn them in.

[Moros]

I've never turned anyone in but if push came to shove I would
I have before and I have regretted it since.

[Crystal_Dawn]

In all honesty, I put not sure. It would kind of depend on what it is. If it was something that would hurt others I would probably try to convince them to do the right thing whether it be to stop or to turn him/herself in. If that didn't work I may. Again, if it were like murder, I'm not sure I would want them to know who turned them it so it depends. That is something that would vary from situation to situation.

[bound2him]

I called Children's Aid on a really close friend once. We dont talk anymore, but i have no regrets, i'd do it again in a second

[tyberium]

If they caused bodily harm to someone definately.

[Ashlynne]

I had to turn a family member (brother)in to the athorities and he is in prission. will be for 5 years. It was the hardest thing I have ever done, but keeping it to myself and letting this crime continue would have destroyed me.
Ashlynne

[waterbear]

Depends entirely on what the friend did.

[Kathryn13]

It is our responsibilty to hold acountable those around us. If someone is doing something wrong, and you know about it, you are just as responsible.

[Amanda-Soo]

If they committed the crime then yeah I'd turn them in.

[going_crazy_am_i_me2]

Depends entirely on what the friend did.
exactly. it really would depend on what situation my friend is in.

[Sweet Pea]

yes but I would try to help them

[faith by day]

Yes, But first to the lord. for i shall only turn in a friend for something wrong... and it must be wrong with the lord to..... ;)

[_Zap_]

I'm not sure...

[The "J"]

Unless the law he broke has no business being a law, I would turn 'em in.

[christianfilmcrew]

I said no because I would encourage them to turn themselves into the authorities. Failing that I would not obstruct justice.

[Andy D]

It would probably depend on what they were doing.

[Starting again]

What’s wrong is wrong, and what’s right is right, but I don't believe I'd have the right to turn someone in, isn't that judging them?



But in saying that, If it was something serious they had done, and they were going to continue doing it, I would turn them in, but only for the safety of others.



But then again... I don't know, It’s tricky. Hopefully I'll never be in that situation.

I guess its something you’d have to pray about when the time comes.

[SuperSmart]

I don't know I think it depends on what they do

[Gwynne]

Yes. If you don't turn the person in they may continue to do things they shouldn't be doing.

[PrayerPointPerson]

First I would tell them that if they didn't turn themselves in, I would. If they were a Christian I would tell them that they know what God wants them to do. If they weren't a christian, I would tell them about it.

[brinny]

I would give them the option of turning theirself in and tell them if they didn't, I would.

[okiemommy26]

not sure

[Neal]

If I loved him, yes.

[GodFlute2]

Yes, may not be enjoyable, but yes.

[VanillaRose]

Depends on what it was. Drugs and such...probably not (although I would talk to them). Anything else most likely yes.

[Faith In God]

Christian? Or not? If Christian, I am supposed to talk with him myself and he should rectify the situation with the offended. If not, share the gospel and let him know his err in the sight of man and especially God. Past that, I don't think that the bible calls for believers to 'turn people in'. Isn't vengeance the Lord's?

[BubblesRelena]

It would depend on the situation. Some laws are rediculious and should not even be in place but they are. If it was a serious infraction rather than not, then yeah, I'd first try to get them to turn themselves in, and then I might. But if it was something like going 70 in a 65 mph zone...heck no, that's just stupid. That's on the boarder of being a busy-body, and busy-bodies are usually gossips, and no one likes a gossip.

~BubblesRelena

[kleptobismol]

just depends on what the situation is

[eaglex]

wouldn't matter if it was a friend or a family member . If it's illegal like drug dealing or stealing it should be reported.

[KrazyPhish]

I suppose it depends on how bad it it was? I duno!

[Telrunya]

For me it would definately depend on the circumstances

[hannabl]

No, I just... no.
If it were a really bad crime they might do again, hurting people then maybe I would, but it would take a lot.

[faith renewal]

I should like to think that I'd have enough integrity to turn someone in for anything, but realistically I think it would probably have to be a big deal for me to be able to do it.

[EastBaySaint]

I was going to say unsure, but than the bible says you have to obey the laws of the land. So I would prolly turn them in. I mean it all depends too ya know. If a friend of mine stole some candy, I wouldn't turn him in , but I would pray for him and set him straight and tell him to do the right thing, ya know?:)

[Adanvdo Waya]

That's part of being I friend, doing what's right if they did something wrong.

[ClaireZ]

Would depend on the crime, the circumstances, and whether they planned to repeat the crime.

[leigh01]

If They Did Sumfink Major Then Proble But If It Was Sumfink Like Petty Theift Then Probley Not Luv Leigh

[mrguitarporsche5]

maybe

[Fonzy]

no

[Neenie]

No way....

[knownbeforetime]

I would turn my friends in. (Well, probably not if it was an extremely minor thing, like stealing a piece of bubble gum.)

I think if a friend has a problem (i.e. stealing, drinking, drug use, etc.) the only way to help them is to make sure the proper authorities know about it. It certainly won't be pretty, and your friends may not like you anymore.

If you didn't turn your friends in, you'd be lying to yourself. It's like saying,"I can handle this problem myself and don't need liscensed professionals."

[SuperMama]

Unless they were an eminant danger to themselves or others.

I would encourage them to stop, make ammends or turn themselves in - depending on they were doing.

[Gods_MyHope]

If it was a malumprohibatum (sp) then I don't think so...depending on the situation. But if it was a serious infracture, I would.

[offspringchik911]

it depends on how huge the crime is but in most cases no i wouldnt.

[PioMagnus]

I went with "not sure" because it would definately depend on the crime. for instance: Jay walking? No
Speeding? No
Embezzlement? Probably
Murder? Definately

God Bless,
Pio Magnus

[Saruman]

I would definately inform authorities if something could harm my friend (illegal drugs) or another person (aforesaid murder, etc.).

We should want to help our friends, and, if we feel turning them in could change them, we should do it.

[anna9559]

you know...i'm not sure, it depends on how good of a friend that person is, and what they have done wrong!

[faller_g]

depends on the person and the crime. This sounds dogdy but if they were a good friend and it was a accident - then no. And if it was a small crime then no!

[Bemiah_Angel]

yes i probably would, I would talk to them about it first tho.

[SparkleDazzle]

If they are hurting anyone yes. If I allow the person getting hurt to stay hurt from what my friend did I am as equally guilty as my friend.

I would first ask tell them they are doing something illegal and to stop though. Give them a month.

If it's something like burning CD who cares. The people that make the CD's are usually rich anyway.

If you found out a someone was doing something illegal, would you turn them into the authorities?&nbsp; What if it were a friend, or perhaps a family member?&nbsp; Would it depend on what they were doing wrong?

[progressivegal]

I agree, if they were hurting another person or putting them at risk to be hurt, than I would turn them in, but if it were something else I would discuss it with them personally and express my concern, but I wouldn't call the police or anything.

[ChrisWins]

isn't breaking a law set by the government bad no matter if it's speeding or robbing a bank?

does the Bible say one is worse than another?

How can Christians insist people not break laws but they openly drive their cars over the speed limit?

I'm honestly curious about this. thanks.

[Raheelah]

no i would not turn a friend in to the cops - the only thing i would is if they had been drink driving, but then i would do it without giving my details :) ;) :D :cool: :P :wave: :thumbsup: :amen: :clap: :hug: :preach: :prayer: :groupray: :bow: :angel:

[rachewil15]

Depends what they did

[Roughashlar]

Depends what they didExactly.

[crashedman]

If you found out a someone was doing something illegal, would you turn them into the authorities?&nbsp; What if it were a friend, or perhaps a family member?&nbsp; Would it depend on what they were doing wrong?

Depends what is illegal, and it can vary from state to state and country to country.


Crahedman

[brinny]

I'd ask them to turn themselves in.

[Thor11]

NO!!!!!!! I would never turn a friend in. What kind of a friend would do that to any of his mates?!

[die2live]

Matthew 18:15-17 gives a good answer to this question. At least if this person claims to be a Christian. It says to first go to him privately, then with a few others. If he still does not repent, then take him before the church or authorities. It is difficult to relate this passage to situations other than personal grievances. In the first verse, it does say, "If a brtother sins against you." But I believe that it does apply to other situations.
Paul talks about this too in another passage, but I couldn't find it. That one might make it a little more clear.

[ysl_75]

If you found out a someone was doing something illegal, would you turn them into the authorities? What if it were a friend, or perhaps a family member? Would it depend on what they were doing wrong?
It depend for what they were doing...

[L.A.W.]

Well, my first reaction would be to warn them of their wrong and of the consequences of it. If they refuse to listen and repent, then it is of no choice but to rebuke them. I may stop them myself for if you know what's right then why are you letting them sin even if it's against themselves. It is a spiritual fight; a spiritual war. Arresting them and locking them up doesn't do them any good. What will they learn unless you in faith in God stop them and have them realize what they will ultimately get themselves into.

[pinkberry]

I think turning them in would probably be the right thing to do. But they are my friend so I think it would be reeealy hard. I put I'm not sure, because I really don't know what I would do. :confused:

[jesusfreak22]

if i had to

[Tanyalita]

Depends on what they were doing..

[Locket]

Yes. If it could hurt them or others most definetely.

[FlyerBoy]

I said no. I would talk to them about it and try to turn themselves in. If they turn themselves in I believe the punishment would be not as harsh.

[diamond717]

I voted yes because if the authorities were that interested in the person, I assume it would be a terrible crime. :o

[BillR]

Yes i would turn them in but i would first talk to them and find out what the crime was and have that person able to turn themselves in first.

[HolyPlace]

Yes ..i would turn them in because maybe they could get help for wat they were doing wrong.. They may had me after it was all over but in the end...I think my friend would love me for the help i gave.

[Godslilgurlalways]

Yes, it's showing that you really do love them and want the best for them and for them to get some help esically if it's hurting them or other:)

[DanielJamesSimon]

Yes, though I've never had to so I can't say from experience that I would, and hopefully I'll never have to.

[KellyLeigh]

I would try to talking to them about it first and if it was something really bad and harmful to them or someone else then yes I would. Letting them get away with doing something illegal an perhaps dangerous is just as wrong as them doing it in the first place

[GodsPrincessBeth]

I would turn in a friend if they did something against the law but that would be the only thing i would like if they did soemthing like littering with a gum wrapper i would just tell them to pick it up

[bammertheblue]

If they killed someone, probably. Definitely if they raped someone.
Otherwise, no. I don't roll over.

[Locket]

Hey! You're 22! How'd you get in here??

Roll over???

[newyorknewyork]

i voted not sure...

id like to think id do the right thing by God in the circumstance.. :) lets hope it doesn't happen in the 1st place!

[Hisbygrace]

That is such a hard question, but I should have voted yes because I have called the police on my son before when he was uncontrolable. It was not easy to do.....Although it is the right thing to do.

[bammertheblue]

Um, I got lost?
I don't get it.

[Krystina661]

Hey! You're 22! How'd you get in here??

Roll over???


Why wouldn't she be able to get in here at 22? :confused:


Anyway.. I would say it depends on the crime. I voted not sure..

[AngCath]

Unless I could convince them to turn themselves in, then I would have to.

[handmaiden97]

If what they were doign could hert somebody else them yes I would turn them in....but other then that no, I probably wouldnt....but I think I would confront them on it as a sister in the Lord

[Dolly]

Wouldn't do it unless it was murder or indecent dealings.

[gal4God]

not sure, depends wot they have done and why.

[faith guardian]

not sure, depends wot they have done and why.
Agreed.

[YourNameIsHoly]

It would totally depend on the situation.

[Gardenia]

I don't know, I voted not sure. It depends who they were, what they did, why they did it, and would they do it again.
Someone takes a 5$ object from the store, and feels bad and wouldn't do it again.. no, I'd leave them be.
If they're stealing hundreds of dollars, over and over, no sign of stopping.. I'm gonna have to turn them in.

[Godisgr8r]

It would depend on the situation.

[*Starlight*]

I voted no, but I'm not sure... maybe I would if they hurt someone really much and weren't sorry about it...

[Lake]

unless my life was in danger,or it was a capitol offense I say not me.

[Lake]

It would depend on the situation. Exactly.

[MacPherson_lass]

I voted yes...but then I wished I voted not sure. If it was something terrible, or if someone was harmed b/c of whatever they did, then yes, I would...if it was an accident or some misunderstanding, no...

ya, it would depend on the situation...

*boing*

[runner_4_jc]

This is a tough one, but i believe my heart would tell me to, but a friends trust is very strong...i wouldnt want to ruin our friendship...So, it depends on how big of a crime my friend committed.

[runner_4_jc]

It would depend on the situation.

Yep!!!!

[firestar]

If they were killing or raping or torturing or terrorists then yes. Burning dvd copies no ;)

[anusha]

Yes

[matreshka]

It would depend on what they were doing. I once had to turn in a friend of mine and it cost me the friendship but it had to be done because he was sexually molesting my friend's child. I was really sad about the whole thing but I feel that I did what was right.

[slamminsam]

I probably wouldn't turn a friend or family member in unless they did something REALLY bad, like murder or rape. Esp. rape-I despise such people!
However, I'm in no big hurry to report minor offenses.
I no longer trust the police or think they're on my side. I and my family have been unfairly treated by our legal system enough times. Believe me-the Law is on the side of the rich, powerful, and well-connected here in the U.S.A.
Considering that a guy on Christian radio was fined 10 grand for telling a homosexual that he was wrong, I don't think the law is on a Christian's side at all!

[darenlesterministries]

Yes, if they did something wrong and they were guilty. Yes, definitely.

[faith guardian]

I probably wouldn't turn a friend or family member in unless they did something REALLY bad, like murder or rape. Esp. rape-I despise such people!
However, I'm in no big hurry to report minor offenses.
I no longer trust the police or think they're on my side. I and my family have been unfairly treated by our legal system enough times. Believe me-the Law is on the side of the rich, powerful, and well-connected here in the U.S.A.
Considering that a guy on Christian radio was fined 10 grand for telling a homosexual that he was wrong, I don't think the law is on a Christian's side at all!
Stories such as that sort of indicate that freedom of speech is very relative, don't you think?

We have some of the same tendencies here. A street evangelist was arrested because he was preaching on the streets during the "Gay pride" parade. It was all a messup by the police though. And even the leaders of the parade asked the police to apologize to the man.
So that's good...

Would I turn in a friend if he did something bad?

YES!
I would. Of course it depends. Jaywalking, no. Sneaking on the bus (i.e. not buying tickets), nnnno. But only barely not. I would certainly tell him that it is wrong.

[murraylikespie]

Im gonna have to say it depends on what they were doing if they were jay-walking or stealing a piece of candy probably not but if the stabbed someone or something like that I might

[jesussaves1234567]

if it is against God and also against the law, yes I report (and I have done it in real life already, to protect children). if it is not against God, like some evangelism is illegal in some countries, I would not turn in an evangelist

[ysl_75]

Yes but depend what they did...

[lyonguard]

It would depend on what they were doing.

[JPPT1974]

That is a very hard question to answer
As you are basically caught between a rock and a hard place.

[micbmac]

i guess it kinda depends on what they did. I know the "correct" answer should be yes, but were all human and it is hard to betray those you love (unless they murdered someone).

[Jazzedforhim]

I'm assuming the question is in regards to something major, and I would hope that I would turn them in no matter how hard it would be. I think that it would be hard for me to not do it...knowing it's the right thing to do.

[Sabertooth]

At this point, I would see it as a duty if they were highly endangering themselves or someone else or placing others at unnecessary risk in other ways.

If someone is in the habit of driving without a seatbelt, that infraction seems outside of my jurisdiction. If they are driving drunk, I'd report it in a heartbeat.

If someone were cheating on their taxes, not my jurisdiction. Hacking an ATM machine, definitely.

Of the ones I WOULDN'T report, I would still give warnings as the relationship allowed.

[Alidar Jarok]

I would not turn any of my true friends in, no matter what. I would try to help them if they wanted it, otherwise, I would never do that to a friend.

[faith guardian]

I would not turn any of my true friends in, no matter what. I would try to help them if they wanted it, otherwise, I would never do that to a friend.
What if said friend raped a child? His own daughter for instance? You wouldn't report that?

[GodsAmbassador2Nicolette]

A lot of things are illegal. If it is something really minor then no, but if they murder someone or rob a bank then I would if they would not turn themselves in.

[Followers4christ]

I would never turn in a friend or a family member.But instead I would be there for them and I would help him/her to overcome what ever it is that got them it to the mess.But I could never turn anyone in to the authorities because they are more corrupt then the people they put behind bars.Besides most people just need somebody to help them through life's troubles and somebody who will show them Christ's love.As christians we know that no crime or sin is bigger then another.All sins and crimes are the same in God's eyes as should it be in ours.For all of us at one point of time before we were christians were sinners and law breakers did we need to be thrown in jail or did we need to be shown God's undying love for all of us.God Bless

[MariaValentina]

It would probably be the worst decision i would have to make...but if i didn't turn them in...then they would get away with the what they did and they wouldn't face the consequences of the actions that they did...It would be bad if someone else who was innocent was involved because then i would definately without a doubt turn them in.

[JPPT1974]

It would be hard to turn a friend in
But you know you have to do the right thing.