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RichardT
10th December 2005, 12:09 PM
I have no confidence atall in my generation , they are almost all of the world and consider christianity as "just another religion" ..

Im scared that the governers at that time will use these computer chips and just because Christians are angering them about the mark of the beast , they will add 666 onto it and force everyone to wear it....

You have to know that the world is really angered about christians even today. In the scientific world for example , Creation Science has a different point of view and has many points and is deserving of discussion... But the scientific world hates it.

I remember when I was a non-christian what I would feel about christians... Imagine now , if my old self , got to govern the world ? I can imagine this , and I can imagine what I would do....

Entertaining_Angels
10th December 2005, 01:54 PM
I grew up believing that the Lord was coming back in the 80's and then later by the year 2000. Obviously they were wrong and the people making those predictions seem to have conveniently forgot about them.

I will tell you what I have learned. We are to always be ready as if the Lord is coming back any moment. The minute, the hour, the day, the year, the decade and the century do not matter. Nobody here can know when it will happen but we do know to be ready. There is probably a greater chance that I or you or anybody here will die in a car accident within the next year or decade. There is probably a greater chance that your unsaved friend or relative will die in the next year. Rather than spend time predicting when the Lord will come back (because if you do and it doesn't happen, believe you me, you'll lose people's trust), spend times letting that 'little light' of yours shine for God.

God bless.

Artificial Intelligence
10th December 2005, 02:27 PM
Myself, I think it will happen before then. I mean the stage is just too well set now for this and I do believe it will happen in this generation and primarily because of the reformation of the state of Israel. I’m not saying that God told me this or when he said it will happen, I think the clear definition of a false prophet is that if such a thing does not come about when they claim God told them it will than they are false prophets. But I’ve seen many guesses in my years (including in the 80’s) and their guesses were not 100% accurate, but I don’t consider them all to be false prophets since they didn’t really claim it was a direct conversation with God that revealed this to them. On the other hand, some did (and still do) and I dismiss their ramblings to this day. Yes, I believe that Jesus is coming, and I hope real soon… even this morning, and from where I'm sitting it's looking to be very soon.

RichardT
10th December 2005, 03:52 PM
Myself, I think it will happen before then. I mean the stage is just too well set now for this and I do believe it will happen in this generation and primarily because of the reformation of the state of Israel. I’m not saying that God told me this or when he said it will happen, I think the clear definition of a false prophet is that if such a thing does not come about when they claim God told them it will than they are false prophets. But I’ve seen many guesses in my years (including in the 80’s) and their guesses were not 100% accurate, but I don’t consider them all to be false prophets since they didn’t really claim it was a direct conversation with God that revealed this to them. On the other hand, some did (and still do) and I dismiss their ramblings to this day. Yes, I believe that Jesus is coming, and I hope real soon… even this morning, and from where I'm sitting it's looking to be very soon.

I'm only guessing , it's very possible for me to be wrong...

revrobor
10th December 2005, 06:15 PM
I've been telling my family I will not die before the Lord returns. And I'm 73. Think about that. BTW it won't be "...the end of the world...". That won't happen for at least 1000 years. When Jesus returns He will set up His millennial Kingdom just as His disciples expected him to do.

savedbyfaithinchrist
10th December 2005, 06:16 PM
I say maby it will maby it wont have you read revaltions i dont think whats there is complete just yet but we should be out spreading the word and stop packing our bags for a trip that may not happin yet ;)

Artificial Intelligence
10th December 2005, 06:25 PM
I've been telling my family I will not die before the Lord returns. And I'm 73. Think about that. BTW it won't be "...the end of the world...". That won't happen for at least 1000 years. When Jesus returns He will set up His millennial Kingdom just as His disciples expected him to do.And a kingdom that never ends :thumbsup: 1000++x+x+x+x+x+x++... :)

savedbyfaithinchrist
10th December 2005, 06:29 PM
I've been telling my family I will not die before the Lord returns. And I'm 73. Think about that. BTW it won't be "...the end of the world...". That won't happen for at least 1000 years. When Jesus returns He will set up His millennial Kingdom just as His disciples expected him to do.
Im always happy to see the truth in your post right on man praise GOD:thumbsup:

lipoftruth
10th December 2005, 07:05 PM
i believe the return of Jesus will come in my generation, but I am open to it taking longer too. One thing is for sure, we are definitely HEADING toward the Mark of the Beast. So whether it takes 10, 20, 50 or 200 years, it is definitely coming.

As someone else pointed out, we can die any moment, and in that sense, we do not know the day or the hour when it shall come to pass.

To echo again what another person wrote, lets just get busy serving God, and what Jesus said to his disciples, he says to all.... WATCH!

Raistlinorr
10th December 2005, 08:06 PM
i believe the return of Jesus will come in my generation, but I am open to it taking longer too. One thing is for sure, we are definitely HEADING toward the Mark of the Beast. So whether it takes 10, 20, 50 or 200 years, it is definitely coming.

As someone else pointed out, we can die any moment, and in that sense, we do not know the day or the hour when it shall come to pass.

To echo again what another person wrote, lets just get busy serving God, and what Jesus said to his disciples, he says to all.... WATCH!

Could not agree more.

Myself and others were talking about this not long ago we feel the time is short and things are working at a quicker pace. So in that should we not also pick up our pace?

God Bless
Raist

lipoftruth
10th December 2005, 08:16 PM
Could not agree more.

Myself and others were talking about this not long ago we feel the time is short and things are working at a quicker pace. So in that should we not also pick up our pace?

God Bless
Raist

For sure. The time has come for us to get really serious about serving God and making a lasting impact on the world for Christ. However, while we continue to want to serve both God and mammon we will never be of any real use to God, and, according to Christ, are worse off than a total unbeliever (Rev 3:16)

CrazyforYeshua
10th December 2005, 09:41 PM
With all that is going on in Isreal, I would dare say the time is quickening. There are almost no Jews left in alot of countries, because they are going home, as God has prophecied they would before the end. They are fighting a losing battle with Palestine. They are giving up their land for peace. I agree with the one thing I've heard recently, if they give up the Golan Heights, start looking up, your redemption draweth nigh.

graveytrain1221
10th December 2005, 10:07 PM
Almost every generation has thought that Jesus was coming for them. It seems likely that it's ours but only God knows. The end of the world for each individual will come when he/she dies. It doesn't matter if he comes for us or we go to him, we still have to live the Gospel.

Artificial Intelligence
10th December 2005, 11:40 PM
With all that is going on in Isreal, I would dare say the time is quickening. There are almost no Jews left in alot of countries, because they are going home, as God has prophecied they would before the end. They are fighting a losing battle with Palestine. They are giving up their land for peace. I agree with the one thing I've heard recently, if they give up the Golan Heights, start looking up, your redemption draweth nigh.Yes, I agree. Not only is that the key but if we look at Matthew 24:28 it is set at the conclusion of the text regarding the signs of the time.

28 "Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near."

So Jesus tells of the things that will happen and at the end of his prophecy he says when we see these things begin to happen to look up because he is coming. Israel is the key, they are the fig tree and the stage is set for what is about to happen.

RichardT
11th December 2005, 12:31 AM
Yes, I agree. Not only is that the key but if we look at Matthew 24:28 it is set at the conclusion of the text regarding the signs of the time.

28 "Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near."

So Jesus tells of the things that will happen and at the end of his prophecy he says when we see these things begin to happen to look up because he is coming. Israel is the key, they are the fig tree and the stage is set for what is about to happen.

wow...

mark53
11th December 2005, 01:35 AM
But then Jesus, and especially Paul, believed that Jesus was going to return before many of them died (esp 1 Thess) Some writers say that what they were actually referring to was the fall of Jerusalem! That has some possibilities.
There are a number of different viewpoints of the end times in the Bible, but the most important thing is to see right now as being in the end time and live according to that.
There are many people on our planet that do not know of Jesus and are struggling with health, poverty, famine, etc, etc. We have much to do. As for nearly 2000 years many Christians have believed that the world will end very soon, I doubt if it will happen yet for thousands of years yet!

RichardT
11th December 2005, 01:37 AM
But then Jesus, and especially Paul, believed that Jesus was going to return before many of them died (esp 1 Thess) Some writers say that what they were actually referring to was the fall of Jerusalem! That has some possibilities.
There are a number of different viewpoints of the end times in the Bible, but the most important thing is to see right now as being in the end time and live according to that.
There are many people on our planet that do not know of Jesus and are struggling with health, poverty, famine, etc, etc. We have much to do. As for nearly 2000 years many Christians have believed that the world will end very soon, I doubt if it will happen yet for thousands of years yet!

Check out the signs :

http://www.av1611.org/rapture.html


Also , how is a preterist supposed to explain the 1000 year reign of Christ ?

mark53
11th December 2005, 01:45 AM
With all that is going on in Isreal, I would dare say the time is quickening. There are almost no Jews left in alot of countries, because they are going home, as God has prophecied they would before the end. They are fighting a losing battle with Palestine. They are giving up their land for peace. I agree with the one thing I've heard recently, if they give up the Golan Heights, start looking up, your redemption draweth nigh.

In 2000 there were only 5.1 million Jews in Israel and that is expected to reach 6 million by 2010. For Israel to house the 10's millions of Jews in the world.... I can't fathom where they will go and how they will get enough water for them! I don't know where you got that statement from but it is virtually impossible to have that amount of Jews there! In 2000 there was estimated to be around 14.2 million Jews in the world.

("Operation World" re numbers quoted)

Why shouldn't the Palestinians have Golan Heights as there own soil. Remember that Jesys and his disciples came from there and there are many Palestinian Christians, it is just that many have left there because of the war zone and the fundamentalists of the 2 main religions in that area.

Anyway Israel is a secular nation and these prophecies if they are believed the way you say actually means that us as Christians have got it wrong - we should be Jews!

mark53
11th December 2005, 01:53 AM
Check out the signs :

http://www.av1611.org/rapture.html


Also , how is a preterist supposed to explain the 1000 year reign of Christ ?

But people have been saying these things for 2000 years now. When I was young, back in the 60's, the only way we heard of what was going on in most countries of the world was if there was a serious event happening - and that was then only some weeks after the event. Before TV and radion we NEVER knew what was, or had, hapenned in many countries. Now with 24/7 satellite coverage of nearly every nook and crany on this planet we know what is happening. That is why there are more things happening. We actually find out about them now.

The 1000 year reign! The Jews, and many others of that time, numbers meant a special thing. They didn't have numbers like we do they used letters instead and they like writing secret messages to each other. Like Rev. 1000 years was a very long time. Like 7 is complete (4 corners of the(rounf) globe and the trinity. Multiples of this added strength and definateness to the situation.

Artificial Intelligence
11th December 2005, 02:04 AM
In 2000 there was estimated to be around 14.2 million Jews in the world.And there are about 20 million people living in New York, your point?



Anyway Israel is a secular nation and these prophecies if they are believed the way you say actually means that us as Christians have got it wrong - we should be Jews!But we are not Jews. To say that Christians are Jews is to make like Swiss cheese of the bible. Yes, many (not all) of the Jews are secular, but the prophecies confirm this already, when God smashes the armies that come against them, against the land, it is said that then they will turn to him and believe and never turn away again.

Spectre01
11th December 2005, 02:12 AM
Remember not to try to put a date on Jesus' return. Only God knows that. Trust in Him, and look up...

Artificial Intelligence
11th December 2005, 02:58 AM
Why shouldn't the Palestinians have Golan Heights as there own soil. Remember that Jesys and his disciples came from there and there are many Palestinian Christians, it is just that many have left there because of the war zone and the fundamentalists of the 2 main religions in that area. Well the Golan Heights is a strategic location, but if Israel gives it up I cannot be sure, I don't think prophecy deals with the giving up of the Heights. I mean really, in these days of modern weaponry, such a strategic point is not as vital for the prophecies to be fulfilled. Prophecies are not a guessing game, it's a done deal as far as God is concerned, he's already seen it happen. But yes, giving up the Heights is a very bad strategic move, the worst.

As for the Palestinian Christians, they are leaving, it's not about the war but the persecutions from the Muslims. Just recently a Muslim woman was impregnated by a Palestinian Christian. Now under law the man would be required to marry the woman, but in this case the Muslims rampaged the city destroying property in a dominantly Christian neighborhood. Their leaving because of the persecutions.

As for what I said about Israel converting from secular to belief, here is the passage. It follows previous passages where Israel is brought to the land (as it is now) by God from being scattered throughout the world (not just captive by some nation). Here is where they are attacked by Gog (Russia) and it's confederacy, and they (the Jews) once and for all turn to God.

Ezekiel 39:1 “And you, son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “Behold, I am against you, O Gog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal; 2 and I will turn you around and lead you on, bringing you up from the far north, and bring you against the mountains of Israel. 3 Then I will knock the bow out of your left hand, and cause the arrows to fall out of your right hand. 4 You shall fall upon the mountains of Israel, you and all your troops and the peoples who are with you; I will give you to birds of prey of every sort and to the beasts of the field to be devoured. 5 You shall fall on the open field; for I have spoken,” says the Lord GOD. 6 “And I will send fire on Magog and on those who live in security in the coastlands. Then they shall know that I am the LORD. 7 So I will make My holy name known in the midst of My people Israel, and I will not let them profane My holy name anymore. Then the nations shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel. 8 Surely it is coming, and it shall be done,” says the Lord GOD. “This is the day of which I have spoken.

lan
11th December 2005, 05:59 AM
I too felt that the time was imminant twenty years ago. Oh hummmm.


Time has no barriers, no limits, no constraints.

We do seem to have entered a "season" though. Specifically, I am UN-sure. Something significant is taking place though.

Advice, Heed Matt 22:
But when the Pharisees heard that He had put the Sadducees to silence, they gathered themselves together. And one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" And He said to him, "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.' This is the great and foremost commandment. The second is like it, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets."

"Put on therefore, as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, inward parts of compassion, kindness, lowliness, meekness, long-suffering; Bearing one another and forgiving one another, if anyone should have a complaint against anyone; even as the Lord forgave you, so also should you forgive. And over all these things put on love, which is the uniting bond of perfectness. And let the peace of Christ arbitrate in your hearts, to which you were called in one Body; and be thankful" (Col. 3:12-15, RcV (http://online.recoveryversion.org/bibleverses.asp?fvid=6385&lvid=6388))

CrazyforYeshua
11th December 2005, 07:49 AM
Well, all I know is what I see: Jews are flocking back to Isreal, Isreal is giving up land that is theirs for peace, and even the U.S. is backing down on supporting the Isrealites ( after all, it was our president who talked them into giving up Gaza ). Combined with other prophecies of the end times, I would dare say we are coming into SOMETHING, whether you want to call it the end times or whatever.
There are reasons Jesus said what he did about His return, only God knows when He is coming, not even Jesus knows, but we were given the prophecies for a reason also, we must watch and take heed.

bannaboat101
12th December 2005, 12:27 PM
First of all we do not actually now when it will happen, It could happen right this second our in a thousand years. plus you shouldn't give up on the generation that you live in who knows god may have a plan for your Generation.

RichardT
12th December 2005, 06:20 PM
another thing... The end is comming , we may just be entering a different "phase" of it comming sooner , but it can take some time... It's like it all of the sudden , the end is comming 5 times faster as it was in the previous stage... Or more so...