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Cre8
9th December 2005, 04:52 AM
What is a Fundamentalist? The Fundamentalists came into prominence in the United States not under Jerry Falwell, but with antecedents that date back for many generations. Although their formal organization was in New York in 1895, they had been busy for several years earlier. In 1895 they framed a famous five-point creed to define Fundamentalism - Protestants, (not Roman Catholics):

1. the inerrancy and infallibility of the Scriptures (the Bible)

2. the complete deity of Jesus Christ

3. the virgin birth

4. the substitutionary atonement (i.e., that Jesus Christ died, sacrificing his life for the sins of the world)

5. the (literal) physical resurrection of Jesus Christ and his future bodily return (Second Coming) to the earth

So what is the Religious Right? I think William J. Bennetta, writing for the California Academy of Sciences, said it most succinctly: "The religious right is fundamentalism's political arm. It seeks objectives that are depicted in fundamentalist literature as being derived from, or consonant with, biblical prescriptions and prophecies. Statements of these objectives vary considerably, but the principal goals are constant and prominent: a fundamentalist theocracy -- that is, a government operated according to fundamentalist readings of the Bible; an economy of capitalism, more or less unrestrained; a foreign policy based on nationalism and chauvinism reinforced by militarism; a social organization in which women would be subordinate to men and would focus their lives on reproduction; a system of education that would discourage analytical thinking in all realms except the purely technical ones; a system of science that would serve only to support commerce and to generate sophistic demonstrations that facts of nature conform to biblical narratives; and theocratic suppression of cultural, intellectual, ethical, or sexual departures from the prescriptions of biblical authorities."

http://www.realityspoken.com/neocon.htm

CrazyforYeshua
9th December 2005, 09:23 AM
As a "fundie", I agree on some, and disagree on others. I disagree on his social point-women do more than just focus on reproduction. We are not subordinate to men, we agree the man should be the spiritual head of the house, but we're not slaves, and don't cow down to our husbands' every whim.
I believe the education point is also wrong, we encourage our children to think for themselves. I bring my daughters up in the Lord, but it's ultimately their choice, I can't force them to do anything when they become adults. I can only pray they follow what they have grown up in.
Science actually proves creation, it doesn't oppose it. He needs to get familiar with Dr. Charles Baugh, and study his findings.
His last point is wrong also, we don't suppress cultures. There are missionaries in every country of the world, they are there to show God within that culture, not change people's way of lives. There are also Christians in every culture, there ways of life don't always change, their hearts do. If the culture goes against Gods' teaching, He will show them, and they will change if they so choose.
I don't agree we suppress anyone's intellect, I actually like getting into intellectual discussions, no matter what the subject, does he mean we walk around being dumb? And he must not be an ethical person, if he thinks it's wrong to point out that something like stealing from your job is wrong, that's ethics. Or to cheat on your spouse, or a number of other "wrongs" in society. I believed all that before I was saved, so it wasn't Christians' suppressing it, it's called knowing right from wrong.
As far as sexual departures, we all know where God stands, but society is changing it, they just expect us to go along, and keep our mouths shut.

catlover
9th December 2005, 10:15 PM
Cre8 back to bashing fundies?

Artificial Intelligence
10th December 2005, 12:07 AM
fundamentalist theocracy <--- totally disagree. Maybe some want a theocracy but that is in the minority. If we wanted a theocracy, we would have not created and supported a democracy many years ago and to this day.