NARNIA: Why Many Fundamentalists Hate C.S. Lewis

[Cre8]

Very interesting:

http://www.realityspoken.com/cslewis.htm

[FreedIntheLord]

No wonder I don't like lewis!

Thanks

[Knight]

I don't know how much of that particular article can be taken totally at face value.

It has a decidedly anti-fundamentalist ring to it. By that I mean the author clearly does not have a favorable or balanced view of fundementalism. For instance, fundementalists do not "despise people who disagree with them and their creed."

Regardless if Lewis believed things that many fundementalists may disagree with. This does not mean that his writings (particulary fiction) should be discarded out of hand.

[Cre8]

I don't know how much of that particular article can be taken totally at face value.

It has a decidedly anti-fundamentalist ring to it. By that I mean the author clearly does not have a favorable or balanced view of fundementalism. For instance, fundementalists do not "despise people who disagree with them and their creed."

Regardless if Lewis believed things that many fundementalists may disagree with. This does not mean that his writings (particulary fiction) should be discarded out of hand.

As the essay states, MANY Fundamentalists do despise those who disagree. As far as "face value"-check the references for truth. The author has a truthful view of Fundamentalism, though not favorable to you.

[Knight]

As the essay states, MANY Fundamentalists do despise those who disagree. As far as "face value"-check the references for truth. The author has a truthful view of Fundamentalism, though not favorable to you.

Near the end of the article there is a line that clearly states:
"Fundementalists despise people who disagree with them and there creed."

The implication here is for ALL not MANY.

This is not true. That last paragraph tells quite a bit about the author's view of fundementalism.

[Cre8]

Near the end of the article there is a line that clearly states:
"Fundamentalists despise people who disagree with them and there creed."

The implication here is for ALL not MANY.

This is not true. That last paragraph tells quite a bit about the author's view of fundementalism.

It says many not all. And..many Fundamentalists do hate people who disagree with them (Crusdades, Inquisition, 9/11, etc.)

Your bias is showing.

[Leimeng]

~ I read the article and it seems that the author is confused on many points. Guilt by association is pretty weak. Additionally, the idea that "Turkish Delight" is hashish is a pretty lame attempt at an accusation of drug use. Turkish Delight is actually a candy you can get in the mid east made of sugar, flour, rose water and pistacios. It is wonderful and if you are interested I can get you some recipies.
~ C.S. Lewis is clearly one of the better Christian writers of the past 100 years.
~ Continue to discuss amongst yourselves...

Peace,

Leimeng

Flatulo Ergo Sum ~~~

(***Insert Personal One Liners Here***)

[Theophorus]

CS Lewis is the most Orthodox, non Orthodox writer I have ever encountered, bar none.

[Knight]

It says many not all. And..many Fundamentalists do hate people who disagree with them (Crusdades, Inquisition, 9/11, etc.)

Actually what I posted was an exact quote. It does not say many.

Your bias is showing.

Given the overall tone of this article this comment is almost funny...

I am not biased against this author but apparently the author is biased against fundementalists.

[Godslilgurlalways]

I think this might tie into this topic but does anyone read them I am not allowed to b/c it's consider wicthcraft and all of that and I am not/ don't read stories that pertain to witches doesn't include fairytales b/c already I already long time ago seen some but I think everyone get my point I hope.

[Svt4Him]

It says many not all. And..many Fundamentalists do hate people who disagree with them (Crusdades, Inquisition, 9/11, etc.)

Your bias is showing.

Crusdades [sic], Inquisition, 9/11 really have nothing to do with fundamentalists and all to do with a hunger for power.

Sure there's something that's showing.


And he says CS Lewis knew the Bible has errors. Is this true?

[Theophorus]

To be fair to the author of the article, his ignorance is rampant. CS Lewis became Christian through his friendship with JR Tolkien, who was Catholic. He was a member of the Anglican church. His theology ironically was fairly orthodox. The statement about the scriptures not being inerrant is unfounded, though given this might be the interpretation of a baptist, is understandable. His paradigm was completely different than that of evangelicals. Any thorough exploration into his theoligical positions would certainly raise "red flags" to some protestants. It is no surprise to me. What is amazing is how "eastern" some of his ideas are.

[Imblessed]

To be fair to the author of the article, his ignorance is rampant. CS Lewis became Christian through his friendship with JR Tolkien, who was Catholic. He was a member of the Anglican church. His theology ironically was fairly orthodox. The statement about the scriptures not being inerrant is unfounded, though given this might be the interpretation of a baptist, is understandable. His paradigm was completely different than that of evangelicals. Any thorough exploration into his theoligical positions would certainly raise "red flags" to some protestants. It is no surprise to me. What is amazing is how "eastern" some of his ideas are.

I think you hit the nail on the head!

to protestants, baptists etc his views are very "unorthodox", in reality they are very orthodox if you are EO! Even Angelican, from the very little I know about them.

His writings are amazing, and while I don't agree with his views 100%, I still find gold nuggets everywhere in his books......

[FreedIntheLord]

I think this might tie into this topic but does anyone read them I am not allowed to b/c it's consider wicthcraft and all of that and I am not/ don't read stories that pertain to witches doesn't include fairytales b/c already I already long time ago seen some but I think everyone get my point I hope.
I prefer to stick to the bible. The Word (scripture) is what my Sword is and it cuts through everything when it comes right down to Spiritual battles. The Lord brings scriptures to my rememberance through the Holy Spirit. :bow:

I am sure that the books Lewis have helped some people. I prefer the Scriptures and the parables and accounts of true historical events. More and more of them are being confirmed by science and archeological evidence.

[Entertaining_Angels]

I think this might tie into this topic but does anyone read them I am not allowed to b/c it's consider wicthcraft and all of that and I am not/ don't read stories that pertain to witches doesn't include fairytales b/c already I already long time ago seen some but I think everyone get my point I hope.

The Bible gets into witchcraft and evil.

Personally, I look at The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe as the allegory it is meant to be and wonderfully written. If there was anything that God deems to be evil included in a book and written as if it were good, I would wholeheartedly agree with you. I love this series because Jesus (known as Aslan in the series) always wins.

[lonelyflower]

It's a great childrens book, with lovely imagery, does it really have to be anything more?

[Lynn73]

In my surfing and looking on the net to find out about the symbolism in Narnia one of the explanations stood out. Someone said that it shows C.S. Lewis's idea about how and what form Jesus may have come in to a different type of world than ours. That make any sense?

[Quijote]

Flatulo Ergo Sum ~~~

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ROTFL!!! ^_^ ^_^ ^_^

[Quijote]

CS Lewis is the most Orthodox, non Orthodox writer I have ever encountered, bar none.

May I concurr....except that I would say "Catholic" where you said "Orthodox" ;)

[Quijote]

I think this might tie into this topic but does anyone read them I am not allowed to b/c it's consider wicthcraft and all of that and I am not/ don't read stories that pertain to witches doesn't include fairytales b/c already I already long time ago seen some but I think everyone get my point I hope.

I don't see how The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe can be considered "Witchcraft".

The book is a very obvious Christian allegory:

Aslan = is Christ
the White Witch = is Satan
Edmund = is everysinner and a little bit of a Judas figure.

Narnia is saved through Aslan's willing sacrifice...heck! even Aslan's going to the Stone Tablet is a Way of the Cross (with Lucy and Susan as the women who cry for Jesus).

Even if a Christian does not like Lewis's theology (which is a valid point since he was High Anglican) it is not fair to portray the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe as anything but a Christian book.

[Quijote]

The Bible gets into witchcraft and evil.

Personally, I look at The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe as the allegory it is meant to be and wonderfully written. If there was anything that God deems to be evil included in a book and written as if it were good, I would wholeheartedly agree with you. I love this series because Jesus (known as Aslan in the series) always wins.

And, and, the White Witch (Satan in Narnia) is always afraid of Aslan, she knows that even though she has magic, she is nowhere as powerful as he is! :thumbsup:

[Quijote]

To be fair to the author of the article, his ignorance is rampant. CS Lewis became Christian through his friendship with JR Tolkien, who was Catholic. He was a member of the Anglican church. His theology ironically was fairly orthodox. The statement about the scriptures not being inerrant is unfounded, though given this might be the interpretation of a baptist, is understandable. His paradigm was completely different than that of evangelicals. Any thorough exploration into his theoligical positions would certainly raise "red flags" to some protestants. It is no surprise to me. What is amazing is how "eastern" some of his ideas are.

May I humbly propose that there is much in common between East and West? :bow: (or at least more in common than that which separate us :thumbsup: )

HEre's to the day when the Church will breath with both lungs united!!! :thumbsup:

[catlover]

As the essay states, MANY Fundamentalists do despise those who disagree. As far as "face value"-check the references for truth. The author has a truthful view of Fundamentalism, though not favorable to you.

Yeah,yeah, right...if I stated any group of person does such and such I would be labeled a bigot. By the way you posted this trash twice, do you get off on bashing "fundies"?

[linssue55]

Very interesting:

http://www.realityspoken.com/cslewis.htm

He was a true man of God! One can be a believer AND a fantasy writer at the same time.

[lipoftruth]

Actually what I posted was an exact quote. It does not say many.

It may be that you are reading a different article to the one we are reading. The second sentence in the last paragraph says (and I quote word for word):

"Many Fundamentalists (Muslim or Christian) despise people who disagree with them and their creed."

[lunalinda]

The book is a very obvious Christian allegory:

Aslan = is Christ
the White Witch = is Satan
Edmund = is everysinner and a little bit of a Judas figure.

Narnia is saved through Aslan's willing sacrifice...heck! even Aslan's going to the Stone Tablet is a Way of the Cross (with Lucy and Susan as the women who cry for Jesus).Adding to that, I was quite moved when White Witch wanted to "shame" and humiliate Aslan by stripping him of his mane, (a lion's pride and joy) before putting him to death on that stone tablet. Much like what the soldiers did to Christ before putting him on the cross (shaming him by stripping him of his clothing to put that robe on him). The resurrection of an innocent sacrifice and heck, even that line of his after he finally killed her, "It is finished." I was like whoa haha.

[little_tigress]

I noticed that there isn't a whole lot of substantiation in this article. There are some things, but the major points talking his faith seem to be pretty much hearsay, and there is quite a bit of guilt by association in here, sooo yeah. Until I see the evidence of these claims I don't see why I should believe them.

[Quijote]

The only point where I could see some Christians having problems with Lewis would be in the last book of the series, "The Last Battle" where he shows how the Carlomen soldier was "saved". I don't think that it is an issue w/ Catholics, Orthodox, Coptics, and Reformed Protestants, but other Christian denominations/churches might have a problem w/it.

BTW, I'm not going to describe it....you'll have to read it :)

[Entertaining_Angels]

is anybody else bothered by the title of the post? I have a hard time imagining any true Christian hating anybody and if they did, they have much bigger problems than the person they hate.