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fifi
5th December 2005, 03:52 PM
what do you guys think about those t-shirts that say Jesus is my homeboy? I think its a shame the we have taken the things of God and made it worldy. because for the most part the people that i see with them on are not christians at all. i am not shure but i think the person that came up with the shirts is not even saved.

SteelDisciple
5th December 2005, 03:55 PM
Don't even get me started on the mass commercialization of God. :/

Entertaining_Angels
5th December 2005, 04:43 PM
I think it is just another example of today's lukewarm christianity. For more on how God feels about lukewarm christianity, read about the seven churches in Revelation.

I also think Christians have lost sight of what it means to 'fear' God.

New_Wineskin
5th December 2005, 05:02 PM
what do you guys think about those t-shirts that say Jesus is my homeboy? I think its a shame the we have taken the things of God and made it worldy. because for the most part the people that i see with them on are not christians at all. i am not shure but i think the person that came up with the shirts is not even saved.

I think that it is a shame that everything that is said and done with the Lord must be done in a religious and pharisee way . I question their salvation more than those that have those shirts .

I consider that the Lord's friendship is the most important thing that He has given me . If people want to use their cultural terms to express it , I think that's fantastic . It shows that they consider the Lord to be near to them instead of far away .

WesWoodell
5th December 2005, 05:17 PM
Considering that those shirts/hats and that slogan come from the MTV produced movie "Saved," I don't really care for them.

"Saved" was MTV's take on Christianity, which is luke-warm to say the least. I turned the move off halfway through it.

revrobor
5th December 2005, 05:35 PM
Jesus called us His "friends". (John 15:14-15) Isn't "homeboy" another term for a close friend? The commercialization of Christianity is indeed discusting. But not everything contemporary is disrespetful. In fact, IMO we'd have more people coming to the Lord if we helped them to see that He is contemporary and NOT some ancient figure speaking in an outdated Biblical language.

Antoinette.Marie
5th December 2005, 05:45 PM
I was wondering this question, too. I actually like those shirts, and I WAS thinking of getting one, but I'm not sure if it is right or not.

Raistlinorr
5th December 2005, 06:18 PM
what do you guys think about those t-shirts that say Jesus is my homeboy? I think its a shame the we have taken the things of God and made it worldy. because for the most part the people that i see with them on are not christians at all. i am not shure but i think the person that came up with the shirts is not even saved.

I'm not for that sorry.
The term homeboy or homie comes from the term house boy which is another form of servant or slave.
The Lord is a slave to no man or anyone for that matter. These terms are just another way that society makes sure to put every one in their correct place and now have become such a normal use that it's realy sickening. Ppl have forgotten the true meaning of the word and are using it in misplaced ways.

Sorry the Lord is not my homeboy he is my God.
God Bless
Raist

savedbyfaithinchrist
5th December 2005, 06:36 PM
Who knows if he is saved or not and to alot of people that may speak diff from most of us that live in the low income areas i see it as a witness tshirt nothing more or less ;) JESUS IS MY HOMEBOY

savedbyfaithinchrist
5th December 2005, 06:40 PM
Homeboy=house Boy Or Slave Lol?????????? Are You Mexican Homeboy Is A WORD USED FOR SOMEONE YOU HOLD WITH GREAT RESPECT NOT A SLAVE IT STARTED AS MEXICAN SLANG ON THE FARMS ALONG WITH THE OTHERS STYLES THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE STOLE AND USED IN VERY UN COOL WAYS THAT MENT SOMETHING TO THE MEXICANS

lil~peanut
5th December 2005, 06:52 PM
The also have a "Mary is my Homegirl" t-shirts. I think they're cute. I love the Lord. I would call other people my "hommies" and it would only be for people that I cared about. Homeboy/girl are slang for a friend, sister, brother, some one that is close to you. I don't think anything is wrong with it. I don't think that people who don't believe in God are wearing that shirt. And if they aren't saved or have "lukewarm" religon, are you going to challange them in the store? Please, there are people who aren't saved that wear crosses, isn't that just as bad? Look, I'm not saying that it's okay, I just don't think that God is that upset about these shirts. But, that's just me.

savedbyfaithinchrist
5th December 2005, 06:55 PM
lil peanut right on

lil~peanut
5th December 2005, 07:08 PM
lil peanut right on

:blush:

Thank you

Antoinette.Marie
5th December 2005, 07:55 PM
The also have a "Mary is my Homegirl" t-shirts. I think they're cute. I love the Lord. I would call other people my "hommies" and it would only be for people that I cared about. Homeboy/girl are slang for a friend, sister, brother, some one that is close to you. I don't think anything is wrong with it. I don't think that people who don't believe in God are wearing that shirt. And if they aren't saved or have "lukewarm" religon, are you going to challange them in the store? Please, there are people who aren't saved that wear crosses, isn't that just as bad? Look, I'm not saying that it's okay, I just don't think that God is that upset about these shirts. But, that's just me.

speak it, girl :amen:

Raistlinorr
6th December 2005, 10:23 AM
Homeboy=house Boy Or Slave Lol?????????? Are You Mexican Homeboy Is A WORD USED FOR SOMEONE YOU HOLD WITH GREAT RESPECT NOT A SLAVE IT STARTED AS MEXICAN SLANG ON THE FARMS ALONG WITH THE OTHERS STYLES THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE STOLE AND USED IN VERY UN COOL WAYS THAT MENT SOMETHING TO THE MEXICANS

What your talking about is the spanish word hombre.

A house boy is a servant some servants have been slaves.

A home is a place where one lives a house is also a place where one lives.

Also another thing is homeboy/homie is slang for a fellow gang member as well as friend. But these are the modern terms for them.

Personaly I feel it's disrespectful in any term you put it. Why? Are we now to resort to speaking of our Lord in slang terms? Like our Lord is just some Joe Shmoe down the street? It's sad that ppl want to comercialize our Lord and trun him into just another way to make cash while also making him into just some guy down the road. But hey every one does their own thing.

We can't have Merry Christmas now it's Happy Holidays. So we are also going to stop saying Jesus is my Lord and saviour and instead say Jesus is my homeboy? Yeah rock on ppl of eath lets just do every thing we can to realy blur the remainder of Christianity. God knows we would not want to make the Christian faith a joke or any thing.

Sorry if this sounds stupid to you or rough but I believe there are some things we should leave alone and stick with the old ways of refering to our Lord. To try and do much ealse is an attempt to cheapen what he did for us on the cross and is rather disgusting.

God Bless
Raist

savedbyfaithinchrist
6th December 2005, 10:35 AM
In this day and age many people without education do worship the lord this way and they might say homeboy i say who cares.
Im sure the lord knows what there heart is saying and i think why i should i or any 1 force some old king james on them when they may want to read the message becouse it helps them understand.
If the young people come to the lord becouse some1 speaks there lingo then praise God.
Its silly to worry about what they may say i dont speak german so what i should yell at them for saying the lords name in german:scratch: :scratch: :scratch: .
But last i must say no home=slave thats a lie im sorry i live in a very hispanic home and we all know that its a word of respect and if you dont like it we dont care i dont say that Jesus is my homeboy but i will give respect to any 1 that may.
Where is your proof for any of this and just like smoking does it matter is a 2nd hand issue ??????
Drop it if any man has faith and trust in the lord then Amen who cares what and how he says it what if a new Christian wants to say that Jesus is there homeboy what are you going to do tell them they cant and push them from being a Christian becouse you seak what is of the world or what the lord seaks :amen:

savedbyfaithinchrist
6th December 2005, 10:40 AM
O i almost forgot if homeboy is a gang banger then im sorry all Mexicans must be gang bangers lol your silly for thinking 1 minded if you could hang with the Mex for 1 day you would see 90 percent of us are not gang bangers homie :thumbsup:

heatherq17
6th December 2005, 10:59 AM
I like them but i dont think its right for people who arent Christians should be wearing them

fifi
6th December 2005, 11:15 AM
I think that it is a shame that everything that is said and done with the Lord must be done in a religious and pharisee way . I question their salvation more than those that have those shirts .

I consider that the Lord's friendship is the most important thing that He has given me . If people want to use their cultural terms to express it , I think that's fantastic . It shows that they consider the Lord to be near to them instead of far away .



But saying Jesus is are Homeboy is putting God on our level.and thats not the case because saying Jesus is our homeboy is not a term that should be used to show are love for him:wave:

savedbyfaithinchrist
6th December 2005, 11:18 AM
How do you know its putting us on the same level it not what you say but how you say it :thumbsup:

Raistlinorr
6th December 2005, 11:22 AM
O i almost forgot if homeboy is a gang banger then im sorry all Mexicans must be gang bangers lol your silly for thinking 1 minded if you could hang with the Mex for 1 day you would see 90 percent of us are not gang bangers homie :thumbsup:


Modern dictionary term for homeboy.

homeboy

n 1: a fellow male member of a youth gang 2: a male friend from your neighborhood or hometown

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=homeboy

I recall quite well my english teacher telling us that homeboy was a derivitive of houseboy. I'll find it for you soon but I need to head to bed.

So here is part of my proof so far.

God Bless
Raist

Raistlinorr
6th December 2005, 11:25 AM
Where is your proof for any of this and just like smoking does it matter is a 2nd hand issue ??????


So do you think masterbation and using cuss words is a sin?


God Bless
Raist

fifi
6th December 2005, 11:27 AM
Homeboy=house Boy Or Slave Lol?????????? Are You Mexican Homeboy Is A WORD USED FOR SOMEONE YOU HOLD WITH GREAT RESPECT NOT A SLAVE IT STARTED AS MEXICAN SLANG ON THE FARMS ALONG WITH THE OTHERS STYLES THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE STOLE AND USED IN VERY UN COOL WAYS THAT MENT SOMETHING TO THE MEXICANS



But we must have the fear of the lord. those shirts do not show that we fear the lord. it shows that God is on the ssame level as us and that can never work.:)

OnEarth
6th December 2005, 11:34 AM
This is a good example of how the older generation is loosing the younger generation. Homeboy TODAY means close friend. Not slave boy. How do you all know who is saved and who is not? You assume that the people wearing them are not. I think that there is nothing wrong with this shirt. Christians want to keep God in the closet(church). When in fact that isnt where he is. Christ is everything in everyone. So the fact that non christians are wearing these shirts is a good thing. If the people wearing them are bad. Would you rather they wear a sinful shirt and promote that? Because that is what you are saying. I think that this is just another fight for the next christian to seem holier than thou. Christians these days are so into claiming everything wrong that they lose sight in what is good and there focus become negative instead of positive.

fifi
6th December 2005, 12:36 PM
What your talking about is the spanish word hombre.

A house boy is a servant some servants have been slaves.

A home is a place where one lives a house is also a place where one lives.

Also another thing is homeboy/homie is slang for a fellow gang member as well as friend. But these are the modern terms for them.

Personaly I feel it's disrespectful in any term you put it. Why? Are we now to resort to speaking of our Lord in slang terms? Like our Lord is just some Joe Shmoe down the street? It's sad that ppl want to comercialize our Lord and trun him into just another way to make cash while also making him into just some guy down the road. But hey every one does their own thing.

We can't have Merry Christmas now it's Happy Holidays. So we are also going to stop saying Jesus is my Lord and saviour and instead say Jesus is my homeboy? Yeah rock on ppl of eath lets just do every thing we can to realy blur the remainder of Christianity. God knows we would not want to make the Christian faith a joke or any thing.

Sorry if this sounds stupid to you or rough but I believe there are some things we should leave alone and stick with the old ways of refering to our Lord. To try and do much ealse is an attempt to cheapen what he did for us on the cross and is rather disgusting.

God Bless
Raist




That was awsome. we cannot use slang terms to speak to God. Right on point:) :)

fifi
6th December 2005, 12:41 PM
O i almost forgot if homeboy is a gang banger then im sorry all Mexicans must be gang bangers lol your silly for thinking 1 minded if you could hang with the Mex for 1 day you would see 90 percent of us are not gang bangers homie :thumbsup:

Its Fine to call your friends your hoime. but thats just it people see God as on the same level as he is. but thats not the case. we have our terms that we call each other and thats just great. But when speaking of the Most holy God he must be put on a higher level then our friends. God can never be on the level as us.:)

OnEarth
6th December 2005, 01:16 PM
Its Fine to call your friends your hoime. but thats just it people see God as on the same level as he is. but thats not the case. we have our terms that we call each other and thats just great. But when speaking of the Most holy God he must be put on a higher level then our friends. God can never be on the level as us.:)

When is it alright that you and I have any form of language between each other and not God?

We do not have the same powers as God. We most certainly cannot be God. But he made us in his image. The term on the shirt does not represent even being on the same level as Jesus. That much is a fact. Would you say that God is your friend? Because that is what the shirt is saying. We do not worship a dictator. Our lord does not convict us for calling him our friend. You believe that he does. That is what you are saying. Dont you remember that Christ said no man is greater than the next. Christ would not contradict himself. Thats not to say that God isnt any greater than us. But he was trying to show you that God is in fact your friend and saviour and he stands with you. You cannot deny that is truth. There for JESUS IS MY HOMEBOY

JulySheMustFly
6th December 2005, 02:27 PM
If Jesus is my homeboy works at even creating a dialogue with a non-believer then it is a good work. There is a shift in evangelism right now and some will like it and some won't but as long as the message is Jesus Christ is the one true Lord and Savior then there is a method to the maddness.

BTW did we all forget that God has a sense of humor and that Jesus hung with some questionable characters?

SteelDisciple
6th December 2005, 04:09 PM
This is a good example of how the older generation is loosing the younger generation. Homeboy TODAY means close friend. Not slave boy. How do you all know who is saved and who is not? You assume that the people wearing them are not. I think that there is nothing wrong with this shirt. Christians want to keep God in the closet(church). When in fact that isnt where he is. Christ is everything in everyone. So the fact that non christians are wearing these shirts is a good thing. If the people wearing them are bad. Would you rather they wear a sinful shirt and promote that? Because that is what you are saying. I think that this is just another fight for the next christian to seem holier than thou. Christians these days are so into claiming everything wrong that they lose sight in what is good and there focus become negative instead of positive.

Losing? psh...they lost the younger generation ages ago.

I kind of think there is something wrong with it..in that it damages God's name. To heathens it makes us look like complete idiots. Kind of like a bunch of Ned Flanders walking around...that doesn't help God's image, which is displayed through our actions.

fifi
6th December 2005, 04:23 PM
How do you know its putting us on the same level it not what you say but how you say it :thumbsup:




We as chlidren of God should call him by his name. their are many
1 farther
2Jesus
3 lord
4 Alfa
5 Omega

and many more but i have not seen homeboy. and if i am correct the man that made the shirts is not even saved to begin with. I think ist on the line of satanic worship.:) but not really for sure. if some one knows i would love to know.

OnEarth
6th December 2005, 04:32 PM
I think ist on the line of satanic worship.:)

Are you kidding me? Do you know what satanic worship is? This at most could be considered controversial but not satanic. That is a extremely rediculous statement. How do you live from paranoya when something so simple comes off as satanic to you? Does it matter if the person that made it is saved? People that put your bibles together are not all saved. People that you buy food from may not be saved. You dont know and it doesnt matter. All you should concern yourself with is what you are doing to please God. You dont need to know who is saved and who is not unless you are going to do something to help.

fifi
6th December 2005, 04:45 PM
Are you kidding me? Do you know what satanic worship is? This at most could be considered controversial but not satanic. That is a extremely rediculous statement. How do you live from paranoya when something so simple comes off as satanic to you? Does it matter if the person that made it is saved? People that put your bibles together are not all saved. People that you buy food from may not be saved. You dont know and it doesnt matter. All you should concern yourself with is what you are doing to please God. You dont need to know who is saved and who is not unless you are going to do something to help.


if you really read what i said i said i think but not sure so the smart comments can stop. one of my friends told me that and her mother is my pator so i know put my trust in that. and by the way did you see the movie saved because if you think that was of God then i see were you are and i will just drop it.
know need to get angry if you are beacuse i am not :)

OnEarth
6th December 2005, 06:18 PM
if you really read what i said i said i think but not sure so the smart comments can stop. one of my friends told me that and her mother is my pator so i know put my trust in that. and by the way did you see the movie saved because if you think that was of God then i see were you are and i will just drop it.
know need to get angry if you are beacuse i am not :)

I saw saved and didnt like it. But there was a point behind it. They were trying to show you the way Christians are viewed today because of ideas like a shirt being satanic. I will say it over and over. That movie portrayed the way christians are looked at from the outside because of arguments like this over a T shirt to name the very least. My comments arent smart they are percieved to be smart because you dont agree. Dont take offense. Im sure you havent but I am just supplying simple facts that appose everything you are saying.

fifi
6th December 2005, 06:28 PM
I saw saved and didnt like it. But there was a point behind it. They were trying to show you the way Christians are viewed today because of ideas like a shirt being satanic. I will say it over and over. That movie portrayed the way christians are looked at from the outside because of arguments like this over a T shirt to name the very least. My comments arent smart they are percieved to be smart because you dont agree. Dont take offense. Im sure you havent but I am just supplying simple facts that appose everything you are saying.


do you have any bible facts since thats what we live by not our own facts what i have been saying comes from the bible. so if you have a vers in the bible that backs up what you are saying i would love to hear it.:)

Knight
6th December 2005, 07:53 PM
I think it is a shame that we, as a culture, have lost some of the awe that used to be part of the Christian faith. Think about who we are addressing. The soveriegn Lord of the universe... Most people would not think of addressing their boss or the President and "Dude" or "Homeboy." Why should God deserve a lesser measure of respect?

Think about Isaiah's reaction to God in Isaiah chapter 6:

Isaiah 6:1-5 NASB In the year of King Uzziah's death I saw the Lord sitting on a throne, lofty and exalted, with the train of His robe filling the temple. (2) Seraphim stood above Him, each having six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. (3) And one called out to another and said, "Holy, Holy, Holy, is the LORD of hosts, The whole earth is full of His glory." (4) And the foundations of the thresholds trembled at the voice of him who called out, while the temple was filling with smoke. (5) Then I said, "Woe is me, for I am ruined! Because I am a man of unclean lips, And I live among a people of unclean lips; For my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts."

His reaction was one of utter humility and awe. In Christ we know that we can come to the Father with sincere hearts. But that takes nothing away from His majesty.


Now, I do not question the salvation of those who wear things like this. Nor would I condemn them for doing so. However, I think these represent a shallow view of the God we serve. This is also not to say that everything needs to be stiff and "religious" either. I just think that if people really understood God'd Holiness, and Christ's glory they would think twice addressing Him in such a cavalier fashon.

savedbyfaithinchrist
7th December 2005, 01:53 AM
JESUS IS MY HOMEBOY AND THANKS TO ME NOT SPELLING GOOD ADDIN THAT PEROID I GOT A NASTY MAIL AND A SINGLE BLESSING TY :thumbsup: O HOW DO YOU LIKE YOUR 20 BLESSINGS?
WHO CARES IF I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE LORD IN SLANG THATS MY BIZZ NOT YOURS TY :eek:

Raistlinorr
7th December 2005, 09:34 AM
I think it is a shame that we, as a culture, have lost some of the awe that used to be part of the Christian faith. Think about who we are addressing. The soveriegn Lord of the universe... Most people would not think of addressing their boss or the President and "Dude" or "Homeboy." Why should God deserve a lesser measure of respect?

Think about Isaiah's reaction to God in Isaiah chapter 6:

Isaiah 6:1-5 NASB In the year of King Uzziah's death I saw the Lord sitting on a throne, lofty and exalted, with the train of His robe filling the temple. (2) Seraphim stood above Him, each having six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. (3) And one called out to another and said, "Holy, Holy, Holy, is the LORD of hosts, The whole earth is full of His glory." (4) And the foundations of the thresholds trembled at the voice of him who called out, while the temple was filling with smoke. (5) Then I said, "Woe is me, for I am ruined! Because I am a man of unclean lips, And I live among a people of unclean lips; For my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts."

His reaction was one of utter humility and awe. In Christ we know that we can come to the Father with sincere hearts. But that takes nothing away from His majesty.


Now, I do not question the salvation of those who wear things like this. Nor would I condemn them for doing so. However, I think these represent a shallow view of the God we serve. This is also not to say that everything needs to be stiff and "religious" either. I just think that if people really understood God'd Holiness, and Christ's glory they would think twice addressing Him in such a cavalier fashon.

:amen:

Our Lord is the King of Kings and the most high.
Why call him friend when you could never love a friend as much as you could love the Lord who died for every one so that they may not have to endure hell.

God Bless
Raist

savedbyfaithinchrist
7th December 2005, 10:57 AM
The real shame is most people would have you mock what they do such as prayer worship and dress umm that gets you no place.
Its your heart the Lord will search and if he is my best freind then hes my homie and we all know that evn our best friends get kicked by us every now and then dont lie and say you dont sin.
Jesus is my Homeboy yaaa:thumbsup:

Raistlinorr
7th December 2005, 11:02 AM
The real shame is most people would have you mock what they do such as prayer worship and dress umm that gets you no place.
Its your heart the Lord will search and if he is my best freind then hes my homie and we all know that evn our best friends get kicked by us every now and then dont lie and say you dont sin.
Jesus is my Homeboy yaaa:thumbsup:


But you can not love any friend as much as you can the Lord. Calling him best friend simply puts him in terms as any one on earth.

And who says they never sin? See thats why Jesus is better than any best friend. No matter how many times we do wrong in his eyes he will continue to love us and take us back. No best friend will ever do that. Only a Saviour will do such a thing.

God Bless
Raist

Reformationist
7th December 2005, 04:04 PM
what do you guys think about those t-shirts that say Jesus is my homeboy? I think its a shame the we have taken the things of God and made it worldy. because for the most part the people that i see with them on are not christians at all. i am not shure but i think the person that came up with the shirts is not even saved.

I think it is indicative of the complete lack of reverence people feel when speaking of, and to, the Lord God.

I've heard people pray to Him as if He were some school chum that they were about to have lunch with.

I agree that it is important to have a close and meaningful relationship with Him and to recognize that He is our Father and that He loves us, however, to do so in a way that shows a lack of respect for His holiness, which "Jesus is my homeboy" surely does, is destestable.

God bless

Reformationist
7th December 2005, 04:06 PM
I think it is a shame that we, as a culture, have lost some of the awe that used to be part of the Christian faith. Think about who we are addressing. The soveriegn Lord of the universe... Most people would not think of addressing their boss or the President and "Dude" or "Homeboy." Why should God deserve a lesser measure of respect?

Exactly my point Knight. Nicely said. :)

God bless

Athanasian Creed
7th December 2005, 04:20 PM
I think it is indicative of the complete lack of reverence people feel when speaking of, and to, the Lord God.

I've heard people pray to Him as if He were some school chum that they were about to have lunch with.

I agree that it is important to have a close and meaningful relationship with Him and to recognize that He is our Father and that He loves us, however, to do so in a way that shows a lack of respect for His holiness, which "Jesus is my homeboy" surely does, is destestable.

God bless

:amen:

Boy, i can see the Apostle Paul, et al refer to Jesus as their "homeboy"...NOT! Read the Word, the Apostles always referred to Him as Lord and God as did the Church fathers. So great was the reverence they showed for the great Creator who became our Saviour! ;)

The "great God and Saviour Jesus Christ" is far beyond description and understanding. Human words to describe Him fall far short in describing Him in all His glory, majesty and power. Referring to the Most High as our "homeboy" is derogotory and an insult to the blessed Jesus Christ!!:bow::bow:

Just a sign of the times of the increase apostasy to come and is already here - God's way of seperating the sheep from the goats.:sigh:

Ray :wave:

gsmart
7th December 2005, 11:00 PM
I will agree with most here in saying that "Jesus is my homeboy" is not the most reverent thing to be wearing. I would question though if a piece of clothing emblazed with "He is my almighty God" or something to that effect is truely reverent to God as well? I'm not writing to pick any fights, but I would question if what is emblazed on a shirt is really the key issue? I think that God would really care less about what we are wearing and more with the condition of our hearts. And at the end of the day is that not what matters more, that we are whole heartedly following God?

Scenario:
1) I am fully devoted to God, following whole-heartedly and living for Christ between Sundays...and happen to wear a "Jesus is my homeboy" t-shirt or,

2)While I may not wear the shirt, I am a Sunday Christian, dressing to impress, fluent in "christianese" don't have a passion for God.

Who is being more reverent?

Yes I realize that these are extremes, but I purposely drew the comparison to prove my point. I'd personally rather be the guy wearing the "Jesus is my homeboy" shirt than just a Sunday Christian. I think that God looks at it that way, does he really look at the outward appearance, or the inward condition?

I sometimes wish that the world had a standardized dress code, then it wouldn't be about looks but all about God. ;)

I guess the final point that I'd like to make is that, if such a shirt helps to start a conversation about Jesus and lead people to Christ...then isn't it serving a purpose?

savedbyfaithinchrist
8th December 2005, 12:27 AM
GRRR LETS ALL GET A MOB AND BEAT THOSE CRAZY PEOPLE UP THAT HAVE THOSE SHIRTS ON BECOUSE INSTEAD OF KEEPIN MY MOUTH SHUT AND WORRYIN ABOUT MYSELF I WILL BE THE NUMBER ONE THING MOST NONE CHRISTIANS HATE ABOUT CHRISTIANS A FINGER POINTER:mad: :mad: :mad:

Reformationist
8th December 2005, 01:43 AM
GRRR LETS ALL GET A MOB AND BEAT THOSE CRAZY PEOPLE UP THAT HAVE THOSE SHIRTS ON BECOUSE INSTEAD OF KEEPIN MY MOUTH SHUT AND WORRYIN ABOUT MYSELF I WILL BE THE NUMBER ONE THING MOST NONE CHRISTIANS HATE ABOUT CHRISTIANS A FINGER POINTER:mad: :mad: :mad:

Is this really something that spins you up that much? Did you design those shirts or something? Why do you despise the counsel of your brethren? Is this how you always respond when someone tells you something you disagree with? Do you simply discount what they say and call them a "finger pointer" because they say that something you do is irreverent?

If so, that is way more telling than any shirt you could wear.

savedbyfaithinchrist
8th December 2005, 02:19 AM
O im sry i forgot im not allowed to have any say in anything without the councils say so please forgive me for thinking that the shirt is not that bad.
Lets look at that shirt like it says Jesus is Satans friend and burn it
No if i did make the shirt i would not care what any1 thought the lord looks in my heart not at my shirt and lets not forget
JESUS IS MY HOMEBOY

KARAISNUMBER1
8th December 2005, 02:22 AM
Wow Saved you tell em.
I have no idea why its that big of a deal:scratch: Jesus is my homeboy as well

gsmart
8th December 2005, 03:18 AM
Savedbyfaithinchrist...O im sry i forgot im not allowed to have any say in anything without the councils say so please forgive me for thinking that the shirt is not that bad.

I don't think that's what Reformationist ment (of course, I will let him speak for himself, just my observation). But I do question why there is such animosity to those that don't hold the same opinions as you.

savedbyfaithinchrist...the lord looks in my heart not at my shirt

I will most emphatically agree with this point. See previous post.


At the end of the day, can we all at least agree to disagree? I personally can't see this going anywhere but around in circles.

Everlastinglife
8th December 2005, 08:22 AM
There seems to be alot of questioning about peoples faith in this thread. Pray for that person, dont question there faith as you would not want yours questioned. As for the shirts, I was homeboy to many. A very tight friend. Odd but not derrogratory. I myself do not like this shirt and think no matter what one wears, puts on his vehicle or covers himself with, Jesus must be in your heart. And if He is ,everyone will know he is your homeboy just by the way you carry yourself. Lets respond with love! I know its a forum but being new here I see so much doubt and negativity rather than prayer for those in need aswell as encouragement for those who are a little off course.I Thessalonians 3:7, "Therefore, brothers, in all our distress and persecution we were encouraged about you because of your faith." So encourage.
I Thessalonians 5:11, "Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing." Starting now God willing.


God Bless.

Raistlinorr
8th December 2005, 10:16 AM
GRRR LETS ALL GET A MOB AND BEAT THOSE CRAZY PEOPLE UP THAT HAVE THOSE SHIRTS ON BECOUSE INSTEAD OF KEEPIN MY MOUTH SHUT AND WORRYIN ABOUT MYSELF I WILL BE THE NUMBER ONE THING MOST NONE CHRISTIANS HATE ABOUT CHRISTIANS A FINGER POINTER:mad: :mad: :mad:

No one is pointing fingures and saying your bad we were giving our opinion on a post.

Some said it's fine others said it's not fully respectful of the Lord.

Another thought on this is why is it so important when any one on the street could wear one just like a cross it shows no proof of our true love for the Lord but could be thought to be another fashion statment. Our world judges on outward things they see our actions should speak and not a shirt or peice of jewlery around my kneck. But this is my opinion you don't have to like it but as long as I can speak (or type in this case) I'm free to give it :P

God Bless
Raist

savedbyfaithinchrist
8th December 2005, 10:37 AM
No one is pointing fingures and saying your bad we were giving our opinion on a post.

Some said it's fine others said it's not fully respectful of the Lord.

Another thought on this is why is it so important when any one on the street could wear one just like a cross it shows no proof of our true love for the Lord but could be thought to be another fashion statment. Our world judges on outward things they see our actions should speak and not a shirt or peice of jewlery around my kneck. But this is my opinion you don't have to like it but as long as I can speak (or type in this case) I'm free to give it :P

God Bless
Raist
Our world im sry where did i miss he part about not living in the world or is some1 gonna tell me its not there :confused::scratch:

Raistlinorr
8th December 2005, 10:43 AM
Our world im sry where did i miss he part about not living in the world or is some1 gonna tell me its not there :confused::scratch:

I simply meant the world around us the ppl on planet earth. Not meaning wolrdly but world a planet.


God Bless
Raist

AllMyPraise
8th December 2005, 10:49 AM
I believe that those kinds of t-shirts can reach young adults and children. Like alot of things in this world that may not have been made for the good (rather a trend or fad) God will see that good comes out of it. Example: Someone wears this t-shirt it can attract others to think it is ok to love Jesus. I guess what I'm trying to say...it's a seed, may seem small but there has to be a seed planted to grow.

John 15:15, "I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from My Father I have made known to you."

God Bless,
Debbie

Kelly
8th December 2005, 10:54 AM
The shirt doesn't bug me until you take into account who's selling it - Urban Outfitters. Who also brought you such hits as the Jesus on the Cross dressup fridge magnet set (http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1253652.html). It's blasphemy and it's not targeted to witness, it's meant to poke fun at our saviour and Lord.

Jesus is my friend, but I don't need a t-shirt that has questionable intent to tell anyone.

Raistlinorr
8th December 2005, 11:31 AM
So far the sites I've seen selling them basicly say it's societies new joke.

This quote



Apparel: Jesus Is My Homeboy, and Mary Is My Homegirl. ... Pamela Anderson to Madonna have been spotted sporting the Jesus chic wear. And now Jesus is also a fashion statement. Jesus is also a fashion statement, and a pop culture icon, thanks to "The Passion of the Christ".




Comes from this site (http://www.cafepress.com/javatime/625234)


Another article (http://www.sptimes.com/2004/05/30/Floridian/Jesus_is_your____what.shtml) saying basicly what some have said only much longer.


This place (http://www1.shopping.com/xGS-jesus_is_my_homeboy~NS-1~linkin_id-3061974~r-1~CLT-INTR) dosen't say anything except prices.

Even Buddha (http://www.cafepress.com/esangha/211251/) has things like this.

There is a site that was right on top for three links that looks to have questionable parts to it. The ppl were clothed but they exposed more flesh than needed so I'll not post it's link.

Another nice article (http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-05/10/content_329349.htm) about it.
And a quote from said article.

"It's everywhere. It's at all the stores," said Craig Gross, founder of XXXchurch.com. "This is the latest thing. A lot of people are wearing them not because they want to display their relationship with God, but because it's the cool thing to do."



For the GWBush (http://www.zazzle.com/products/product/product.asp?product_id=235077348006669147) followers I'ld say.


These are just some of the first two pages from this search (http://www.alexa.com/search?q=jesus+is+my+homeboy).

This is all I was talking about when I it's more of a fashtion statement thing of the world and that any one could wear it. :(

God Bless
Raist

Reformationist
8th December 2005, 12:52 PM
O im sry i forgot im not allowed to have any say in anything without the councils say so please forgive me for thinking that the shirt is not that bad.
Lets look at that shirt like it says Jesus is Satans friend and burn it
No if i did make the shirt i would not care what any1 thought the lord looks in my heart not at my shirt and lets not forget
JESUS IS MY HOMEBOY

It's clear that the shirt issue is the least of your worries. You clearly have some substantial anger issues that need to be dealt with. Additionally, your claim that you "would not care what anyone thought" shows your spiritual immaturity. You should always care how your actions affect those around you. It need not dictate your life. As long as you are obedient to God you will be fine. However, a callous disregard for the way your actions affect others does not show your love for God but, rather, your love for self.

Lastly, I have no clue as to the identity of the "council" to which you refer so that makes no sense to me.

God bless

Petrarch
8th December 2005, 02:29 PM
what do you guys think about those t-shirts that say Jesus is my homeboy? I think its a shame the we have taken the things of God and made it worldy. because for the most part the people that i see with them on are not christians at all. I am not shure but i think the person that came up with the shirts is not even saved.

I honestly think that they are disrespectful. Jesus is not simply some buddy, chum, pal, or whatever word you wish to use. He is the Son of God who was slain for the sins of the world. To make Him any less than that is blasphemous in my opinion.

savedbyfaithinchrist
8th December 2005, 04:51 PM
It's clear that the shirt issue is the least of your worries. You clearly have some substantial anger issues that need to be dealt with. Additionally, your claim that you "would not care what anyone thought" shows your spiritual immaturity. You should always care how your actions affect those around you. It need not dictate your life. As long as you are obedient to God you will be fine. However, a callous disregard for the way your actions affect others does not show your love for God but, rather, your love for self.

Lastly, I have no clue as to the identity of the "council" to which you refer so that makes no sense to me.

God bless
LOL GRRR im so angry lol no im upset with finger pointers like you.
You have no clue where my walk is but you becouse of your powers that can read minds know that im in the wrong there is no 2 sides its only your right im wrong lets move on IM NOT WRONG 1st off WHO cares about it the lord looks in the heart not the shirt.
O and i forgot im not saved unless you aprove :scratch: :scratch:
Im so tired of lame Christians that point my walk is very strong and im very blessed :thumbsup: :amen:
SO worry about your own walk and point at your self you sin just as i sin your not above me :amen:

Reformationist
8th December 2005, 06:04 PM
LOL GRRR im so angry lol no im upset with finger pointers like you.

You're making that, among other things, quite obvious.

You have no clue where my walk is but you becouse of your powers that can read minds know that im in the wrong there is no 2 sides its only your right im wrong lets move on IM NOT WRONG 1st off WHO cares about it the lord looks in the heart not the shirt.

As I said, the fruit of the spirit, or lackthereof, that you display in this thread is very telling as to "where your walk is." Your lack of control is indicative of a spiritually immature person.

O and i forgot im not saved unless you aprove :scratch: :scratch:

I have no clue as to your salvitic state, nor did I comment on it.

Im so tired of lame Christians that point my walk is very strong and im very blessed :thumbsup: :amen:

Oh. Well good. Then this "lame Christian" will move on. Good luck with your walk, you know, being that it is "so strong" that you don't care what others think, call fellow believers "lame Christians" and, for some reason, cannot seem to make a post without the animosity and lack of control overshadowing anything you have to say.

SO worry about your own walk and point at your self you sin just as i sin your not above me :amen:

I see.

God bless

Knight
8th December 2005, 06:13 PM
Don,

You're far more patient than I...

savedbyfaithinchrist
10th December 2005, 05:58 PM
Wow i did something amazing i prayed before i made this reply.
How often do we pray before we post i do most times but not always.
SO lets say you saw a man cursing the Lords name but wearing this Jesus is my Homeboy shirt would you talk to him or rip his shirt off?
Would you point at him? show him Gods love? Or PRAY for him?
DOES the LORD search the a Mans heart or a Mans shirt?
I am not angry with any 1 and i will pray for you even tho ive been praying for you.
I am upset that people that call them selfs Christians would point there nasty sinfull fingers at a person who may want that relationship with the Lord.
WHO loves any shirt ??
There all of the world right?
If any of you would say that homeboy=house slave i say this in kindness but what year are you from???
Do you really think people ment for it to be a shirt that tricks you do you tell every1 look theres that evil kid with the Lords name on his shirt???
That this shirt was ment to say houseslave????
It is said HE WHO HAS NOT SINNED CAST THE FIRST STONE.
Be a WITNESS NOT A MAN ONLY SEEKING HIS OWN HEART.
The least will be the 1st you need to know that now before you reply i pray that you will leave yourself out of the post and think of the good and dont forget to PRAY :pray::prayer: :pray: :prayer:

Raistlinorr
10th December 2005, 07:52 PM
Wow i did something amazing i prayed before i made this reply.
How often do we pray before we post i do most times but not always.
SO lets say you saw a man cursing the Lords name but wearing this Jesus is my Homeboy shirt would you talk to him or rip his shirt off?
Would you point at him? show him Gods love? Or PRAY for him?
DOES the LORD search the a Mans heart or a Mans shirt?
I am not angry with any 1 and i will pray for you even tho ive been praying for you.
I am upset that people that call them selfs Christians would point there nasty sinfull fingers at a person who may want that relationship with the Lord.
WHO loves any shirt ??
There all of the world right?
If any of you would say that homeboy=house slave i say this in kindness but what year are you from???
Do you really think people ment for it to be a shirt that tricks you do you tell every1 look theres that evil kid with the Lords name on his shirt???
That this shirt was ment to say houseslave????
It is said HE WHO HAS NOT SINNED CAST THE FIRST STONE.
Be a WITNESS NOT A MAN ONLY SEEKING HIS OWN HEART.
The least will be the 1st you need to know that now before you reply i pray that you will leave yourself out of the post and think of the good and dont forget to PRAY :pray::prayer: :pray: :prayer:



Brother firstly I'll say again no one is judging you nor pointing fingures. Either you or myself are misreading things but I've yet to see some one come against you and call you evil or sinnful or unChristian for wearing one. So until I see proof of such this is a false accusation against every one who has had a differing opinion than yourself.

I fully agree that the Lord looks into your heart and not your clothes I've never thought nor said differently. But the world sees our actions and our dress if we are doing or wearing and as I have shown in a former post that it's become a fashion statment for those who do not know Christ as well as the cross. So it is not something that will show our faith but more so might be looked at as just some one wanting to keep up with fashion.

Secondly why would I do any thing but pray or try to lead a man who is cursing my Lord yet wearing one of these shirts? But in asking this question you must be able to see that it is becoming a fashion statment for those who are not our brothers or sisters in Christ.

As for the houseslave thing you are stating that wrong it was houseboy which is a term for servant and servant can mean slave. It not a question of what year I live in (obviously I live in the same year as yourself). It more a question of understanding the root of things. For instance the term "boy" is not looked as as a terible thing but when you call some one a boy it can be. I work with a guy who calls all men boy when just doing the normal chit chat with friends and co-workers. But I also know that if he were to say that to several black men he would more than likely end up with a black eye. You see in US history when ppl had slaves the term boy directed toward a black man was to place him below his master and make him feel less superior to his master. Needless to say most black guys I know do not take kindly to the term because of a previous use and I would have to say it would bother me also.

What I'm trying to say is these are reasons I would not wear one and do not agree with them. If I see some one wearing one thats their choice not mine. But I do not feel comfortable wearing one as I do not wish to place our Lord on the same grounds as just any friend. By doing that it makes it seem IMHO that we are deserving of his love and forgivness which none of us truely are.

You are taking offence to what others are saying because it disagrees with what you are saying. Maybe your judging yourself who knows I can't begin to say I understand what your thinking or feeling about our words. We have done nothing but give our opinoins to the OP and any questions ask. We have ask questions but I've not seen any one point fingures at you or any one on here. So your accusation is unfounded until I see proof.

We are here to love and share our thoughts ideas and opinoins of things not to persicute or belittle each other nor are we casting any stones.

God Bless
Raist

lipoftruth
10th December 2005, 08:05 PM
I do see wrong in the commercialisation of God, although T-shirts neither bring us closer to nor futher away from God.

Furthermore, I should point out that most of the people I have seen wear the T-shirts are non-christians, and they wear them as a way of mocking Christianity. Therefore my own conclusion is that the T-shirts are not very good as far as witnessing for Christ.

Jesus did not say, "And by this shall all men know that you are my disciples, if you wear a T-shirt with my name and a catchy slogan" Neither did he talk of fish symbols and witty car stickers. And frankly, my own experience has been that these sort of things turn non-believers OFF Christianity and by no means attract them. What would really attract them is when they see people actually living Christian lives that shine the love of God in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation.

savedbyfaithinchrist
10th December 2005, 08:06 PM
Brother firstly I'll say again no one is judging you nor pointing fingures. Either you or myself are misreading things but I've yet to see some one come against you and call you evil or sinnful or unChristian for wearing one. So until I see proof of such this is a false accusation against every one who has had a differing opinion than yourself.

I fully agree that the Lord looks into your heart and not your clothes I've never thought nor said differently. But the world sees our actions and our dress if we are doing or wearing and as I have shown in a former post that it's become a fashion statment for those who do not know Christ as well as the cross. So it is not something that will show our faith but more so might be looked at as just some one wanting to keep up with fashion.

Secondly why would I do any thing but pray or try to lead a man who is cursing my Lord yet wearing one of these shirts? But in asking this question you must be able to see that it is becoming a fashion statment for those who are not our brothers or sisters in Christ.

As for the houseslave thing you are stating that wrong it was houseboy which is a term for servant and servant can mean slave. It not a question of what year I live in (obviously I live in the same year as yourself). It more a question of understanding the root of things. For instance the term "boy" is not looked as as a terible thing but when you call some one a boy it can be. I work with a guy who calls all men boy when just doing the normal chit chat with friends and co-workers. But I also know that if he were to say that to several black men he would more than likely end up with a black eye. You see in US history when ppl had slaves the term boy directed toward a black man was to place him below his master and make him feel less superior to his master. Needless to say most black guys I know do not take kindly to the term because of a previous use and I would have to say it would bother me also.

What I'm trying to say is these are reasons I would not wear one and do not agree with them. If I see some one wearing one thats their choice not mine. But I do not feel comfortable wearing one as I do not wish to place our Lord on the same grounds as just any friend. By doing that it makes it seem IMHO that we are deserving of his love and forgivness which none of us truely are.

You are taking offence to what others are saying because it disagrees with what you are saying. Maybe your judging yourself who knows I can't begin to say I understand what your thinking or feeling about our words. We have done nothing but give our opinoins to the OP and any questions ask. We have ask questions but I've not seen any one point fingures at you or any one on here. So your accusation is unfounded until I see proof.

We are here to love and share our thoughts ideas and opinoins of things not to persicute or belittle each other nor are we casting any stones.

God Bless
Raist
See thats what i ment (not our bro or sis ) thats our job to get em to the Lord to help them to the Truth and i dont care if any1 agree .
Also like i have said i have pms from People about this post and i have been called immature in post (hence a finger pointer ).
Im not sure and dont care if you have im just making a statement that people are lame to see the shirt and not the person why reply when you even know the Lord looks in the HEART

savedbyfaithinchrist
10th December 2005, 08:07 PM
O im im not trying to be rude but im glad you dont agree with them But I do

ascribe2thelord
10th December 2005, 08:10 PM
I do see wrong in the commercialisation of God, although T-shirts neither bring us closer to nor futher away from God.

Furthermore, I should point out that most of the people I have seen wear the T-shirts are non-christians, and they wear them as a way of mocking Christianity. Therefore my own conclusion is that the T-shirts are not very good as far as witnessing for Christ.

Jesus did not say, "And by this shall all men know that you are my disciples, if you wear a T-shirt with my name and a catchy slogan" Neither did he talk of fish symbols and witty car stickers. And frankly, my own experience has been that these sort of things turn non-believers OFF Christianity and by no means attract them. What would really attract them is when they see people actually living Christian lives that shine the love of God in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation.

I think we ought to burn Christian bookstores! :thumbsup:

Raistlinorr
10th December 2005, 08:11 PM
See thats what i ment (not our bro or sis ) thats our job to get em to the Lord to help them to the Truth and i dont care if any1 agree .
Also like i have said i have pms from People about this post and i have been called immature in post (hence a finger pointer ).
Im not sure and dont care if you have im just making a statement that people are lame to see the shirt and not the person why reply when you even know the Lord looks in the HEART

The immature thing that I read (which was not me) I took as more that you need to grow in the Lord. But in saying that I feel every single one of us need to grow in the Lord and are immature in the Lord. If we were not we would be sitting with our Lord now as we would have nothing more to learn from him.

I don't know what goes on in your pms but if some one is being rude to you pray for them and give it over to the Lord.

Edit: remembering that english is not your first language I can understand how you might take offence to them calling you immature but I read it as stated above.

God Bless
Raist

Raistlinorr
10th December 2005, 08:14 PM
I think we ought to burn Christian bookstores! :thumbsup:

The world is slowly replacing them with adult book stores already. We can go and burn them if you like though :P


God Bless
Raist

lipoftruth
10th December 2005, 08:14 PM
I think we ought to burn Christian bookstores! :thumbsup:

No need to burn them. Just don't get sucked into spending all your money on endless stuff that you don't need. Rather store your treasures in heaven by giving to the really needy (Luke 12:32-33)

savedbyfaithinchrist
11th December 2005, 01:30 PM
SO WHATS YOUR DEAL THEN WITH MY POST HAVE I SINNED?????The immature thing that I read (which was not me) I took as more that you need to grow in the Lord. But in saying that I feel every single one of us need to grow in the Lord and are immature in the Lord. If we were not we would be sitting with our Lord now as we would have nothing more to learn from him.

I don't know what goes on in your pms but if some one is being rude to you pray for them and give it over to the Lord.

Edit: remembering that english is not your first language I can understand how you might take offence to them calling you immature but I read it as stated above.

God Bless
Raist

Raistlinorr
11th December 2005, 02:05 PM
SO WHATS YOUR DEAL THEN WITH MY POST HAVE I SINNED?????

NO

Why do you think some one is judging you and pointing fingures all the time?
You said that you were called immature. The poster that said such said you were immature in Christ this sugests that you need to grow in Christ and still have things to learn.

I'm saying we all have things to learn there for we are all immature in Christ. If we knew all of his teachings exact we would be with him now and not be sitting he argueing of tiny things.

Reread what I posted and you will see what I mean.

God Bless
Raist

ieatlamb
11th December 2005, 02:13 PM
NO

Why do you think some one is judging you and pointing fingures all the time?
You said that you were called immature. The poster that said such said you were immature in Christ this sugests that you need to grow in Christ and still have things to learn.

I'm saying we all have things to learn there for we are all immature in Christ. If we knew all of his teachings exact we would be with him now and not be sitting he argueing of tiny things.

Reread what I posted and you will see what I mean.

God Bless
Raist

Your post is a grammatical nightmare. Please revise it.

I think we ought to burn Christian bookstores! :thumbsup:

And run around wearing Heer helmets and jackboots and Sieg Heiling some guy called "Der Fuhrer"?

Raistlinorr
11th December 2005, 02:19 PM
Your post is a grammatical nightmare. Please revise it.

Thanks for reminding me of this..........

I never claimed to be great with my grammer.

Thanks for the importance of your post though.

God Bless
Raist

Raistlinorr
11th December 2005, 02:31 PM
SO WHATS YOUR DEAL THEN WITH MY POST HAVE I SINNED?????

Actually let me rephrase that last post.

Yes we have all sinned only Christ himself did not. Thank the Lord we are forgiven of sin though.

But you are not sinning by wearing one just because some of us do not agree with it so long as the Lord is not putting a conviction on your heart tht it is wrong you ok.

God Bless
Raist

Big Mouth Nana
11th December 2005, 03:01 PM
Thanks for reminding me of this..........

I never claimed to be great with my grammer.

Thanks for the importance of your post though.

God Bless
RaistGood thing that the requirement for going to heaven isn't on if we can spell correctly. We would all be destined to hell, :thumbsup:

TreeOfLife
11th December 2005, 03:07 PM
Good thing that the requirement for going to heaven isn't on if we can spell correctly. We would all be destined to hell, :thumbsup:

Knot mee. I bott the knew "Blue Kollar" speall cheker! :thumbsup:

Raistlinorr
11th December 2005, 03:17 PM
Knot mee. I bott the knew "Blue Kollar" speall cheker! :thumbsup:

HAHAHAHA Hey wait I'm from the sticks and hills I might take offence to that :scratch:

Ok well not realy but I am from the small town country life thing lol.
Where ppl are considered redneckish and hillbillyish. If you love cows and open fields this is the place for you.

God Bless
Raist

TreeOfLife
11th December 2005, 03:28 PM
HAHAHAHA Hey wait I'm from the sticks and hills I might take offence to that :scratch:

Ok well not realy but I am from the small town country life thing lol.
Where ppl are considered redneckish and hillbillyish. If you love cows and open fields this is the place for you.

God Bless
Raist

Me too. Just don't tell anyone. I don't want to lose this cosmopolitan image! ;) :D

butterfly84
11th December 2005, 03:34 PM
This is a good example of how the older generation is loosing the younger generation. Homeboy TODAY means close friend. Not slave boy. How do you all know who is saved and who is not? You assume that the people wearing them are not. I think that there is nothing wrong with this shirt. Christians want to keep God in the closet(church). When in fact that isnt where he is. Christ is everything in everyone. So the fact that non christians are wearing these shirts is a good thing. If the people wearing them are bad. Would you rather they wear a sinful shirt and promote that? Because that is what you are saying. I think that this is just another fight for the next christian to seem holier than thou. Christians these days are so into claiming everything wrong that they lose sight in what is good and there focus become negative instead of positive.

:amen: As Christians, we need to get God out to everyone...if saying that Jesus is my close, personal friend (homeboy) by wearing a t-shirt that proclaims it to be so, I'm all for it. :)

jasperbound
11th December 2005, 06:43 PM
what do you guys think about those t-shirts that say Jesus is my homeboy? I think its a shame the we have taken the things of God and made it worldy. because for the most part the people that i see with them on are not christians at all. i am not shure but i think the person that came up with the shirts is not even saved.

I see nothing wrong with a shirt anymore than I see anything wrong with any other thing that people could use to identify themselves as a Christian (including crosses, rings, etc.). I think people just want to complain about contemporary ways of proclaiming one's Christianity to others.

Artificial Intelligence
11th December 2005, 07:42 PM
:amen: As Christians, we need to get God out to everyone...if saying that Jesus is my close, personal friend (homeboy) by wearing a t-shirt that proclaims it to be so, I'm all for it. :)

home·boy Pronunciation Key (hmboi)
n. Slang

1. A male friend or acquaintance from one's neighborhood or hometown.
2. A fellow male gang member.

Yo!

savedbyfaithinchrist
11th December 2005, 08:03 PM
My brother i love you man very much but we must even love those that sin aginst the lord and i think that the meaning is not what mst would think i think it means something to others and we should respect that.
As Christians we should show the Lords love for all even a man with a shirt that may say 666home·boy Pronunciation Key (hmboi)
n. Slang

1. A male friend or acquaintance from one's neighborhood or hometown.
2. A fellow male gang member.

Yo!

Artificial Intelligence
11th December 2005, 09:15 PM
My brother i love you man very much but we must even love those that sin aginst the lord and i think that the meaning is not what mst would think i think it means something to others and we should respect that.
As Christians we should show the Lords love for all even a man with a shirt that may say 666Yo!, that's a lot to read into my Yo! :D
It was a dictionary.com ref.

yo
interj. Slang

Used as a greeting or to attract someone's attention.

Knight
12th December 2005, 05:02 PM
Understand one thing...

Wearing (or not wearing) a t-shirt with any kind of Christian phrase on it is not going to save anybody.

Raistlinorr
12th December 2005, 10:04 PM
Understand one thing...

Wearing (or not wearing) a t-shirt with any kind of Christian phrase on it is not going to save anybody.

:amen:

Only Christ can save some one. Our actions or words plants seeds it might be seeds of good or bad but we plant seeds regardless.

God Bless
Raist

flyingsum0
14th December 2005, 05:39 PM
Personally I feel that any expression of one love or faith in Jesus is good...I love Jesus and express anyway I can!

elijah115
14th December 2005, 08:45 PM
re. the OP,

i dont it matters, homie is a term used for someone you love, i think we should focus on the word of God rather than complaining

Servant4Yeshuah
16th December 2005, 02:37 PM
QUOTE=revrobor]Jesus called us His "friends". (John 15:14-15) Isn't "homeboy" another term for a close friend? The commercialization of Christianity is indeed discusting. But not everything contemporary is disrespetful. In fact, IMO we'd have more people coming to the Lord if we helped them to see that He is contemporary and NOT some ancient figure speaking in an outdated Biblical language.[/QUOTE]

I agree. I think it matters what the wearer of the shirt means. In the late 60's (yes I was around then) Jesus was our "main man", Some of the mystics in Spain referred to Him as their "lover"... He is all of these things and more, Redeemer, King the list goes on. The important thing, is to give him respect from the heart. If someone sincerely tells me that Jesus is his/her Homeboy, bless God. S/he has a relationship with Jesus that is a close friendship.

Just my humble 2 pesos

Timmothy
16th December 2005, 02:44 PM
I know Mtv is not a great example, but they are one of the only places that say Christmas on the air, not happy holidays, or happy Xmas, To get to my point, there are not marking Christ out of Christmas, if you look at sears or walmart there not aloud to say christmas only happy holidays, or season greatings.

adnilgnav
16th December 2005, 03:07 PM
sound funny to me... And i don't like it either.

evange
17th December 2005, 05:12 AM
I think those shirts are pretty cool...