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Droobie

29th September 2002, 09:32 PM

Is speeding a sin? Is sampling a peanut at the grocery store without asking permission a sin? Is there such things a little or big sins?

livingforJesus-Shaun

29th September 2002, 09:42 PM

no their aint a sin is a sin

Dewjunkie

29th September 2002, 10:54 PM

No, NOT speeding in front of me when I am speeding is a sin. :D

Sean R. Sherman

30th September 2002, 12:48 AM

2 Peter 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.

All sin is viewed by God as the same except for one - Blapheme against the Holy Ghost would be unto death.

JagSayon

30th September 2002, 04:41 AM

If its in your law, then its a sin to speed because you are opposing the authority that God has set in place - all authority comes from God. Peace :)

Jag

Jephunneh

30th September 2002, 09:44 AM

Romans 13
1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth]ation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

sakamuyo

30th September 2002, 03:42 PM

Yes, but not for the silly, sarcastic, reason given as a poll option. We have a responsibility to live according to the laws our our community. I can understand breaking the laws in protest when they are in direct conflict with Scripture & there is no other way to honor God and obey the law. But, I don't see any reason why obeying the speed limit would be in conflict with Scripture.

GodBoy809

30th September 2002, 03:57 PM

Im not sure.

lisa03wilson

30th September 2002, 04:27 PM

yes, and I have to admit it is one of the harder sins to avoid.

layne

30th September 2002, 07:10 PM

It's definately hard to avoid keeping up with rush hour traffic!

Droobie

30th September 2002, 08:11 PM

Yes, the example given in the poll is not a serious reason, in case you may think it were so. How about the peanut sampling scenario? Are any laws 'bendable' or okay to break?

Hmmm... what happens if you're in a country, or visiting a country that has laws that we would question. If you were in a country where the law allowed the mistreatment of women. Would you subject yourself to the law (whether you're a man or woman) if you had to stay in that country?

4jc

30th September 2002, 11:31 PM

I am not sure? I do know that if you are driving recklessly, then obviously yes.
As Droobie says, are there any laws bendable or okay to break?
I think you have to ask the Lord and see if you are getting convicted of it
Where i live, it is illegal to put a "for sale" sign on your vehicle. Why? I don't know, but it's pretty stupid if you ask me!
J-walking is illegal too. How many of us christians j-walk?
Use your discretion is the best answer I think.
If I get convicted of this post, I will edit it. :)

Dorothyne

1st October 2002, 01:26 AM

Interesting question, the first answer would seem correct don't speed it is against the law. But there is another law that says u must keep up with the flow of traffic. If every1 is speeding and ur not u r indanger other traveler and they will give u a ticket 4 it. This as with all things. Seek to obey the laws of the land and when in doubt just pray about it God never leaves u hanging. Wisdom is giving bountifully to all that ask

Harley_Davidson_Man

1st October 2002, 05:22 AM

"If you know to do good and do it not, it is sin."

Sharky

1st October 2002, 07:40 AM

Wow. Even God doesn't let us speed. Which is a good thing too. Stops some of us from getting earthly speed tickets :).

sonicflood

1st October 2002, 07:47 AM

remember nobody's perfect....

Gryphon

1st October 2002, 12:42 PM

Actually "keeping up with the flow of traffic" is not a law. That's a myth. You may have been taught that is the safest thing, and it probably is, but going over the posted speed limit on ANY occassion is breaking the law. What you have to determine is whether the breaking of that law should be necessary in a particular case, i.e. passing, allowing someone over, etc.

Is "keeping up with the flow of traffic" a way to "love your neighbor as yourself" by contributing to the relative safety of the situation or are you, by driving the speed limit, setting a good example and (basically) rebuking those that are speeding? :confused:

sakamuyo

1st October 2002, 01:38 PM

Ahh.. the battle of legalism vs. rationalization.

Yes, for any human law, there is an exception. If you are a police officer rushing to someone's aid, you can legally break the speed limit. When a kid in my youth group had a compound fracture, the state police officer told me to drive as fast as I wanted and gave me his card to hand over if I was pulled over. Yes, there are legitimate reasons to go over the posted speed limit. But, this is not what we are talking about.

Driving fast because you overslept is not the same. Driving fast because you are bored & the freeway is wide open is not the same. These are times when we have a responsibility to drive according to the laws of the land.

The "driving the speed of traffic" answer is a slippery slope. Yes, there are times when it may be safer to do so. But, when I am on the highway & trafifc is doing 70 miles per hour, I just stay in the right hand lane at 60 (the posted limit in my area). Those who want to go faster can pass me. This is not a safety issue. If I was going 30 miles per hour in a 60 zone, I would be creating a safety issue.

"Rationalizing" our misdeeds is a scary thing. Isn't it easier to just drive the speed limit rather than have to worry about whether or not what we are doing is okay?

remember nobody's perfect....
I don't mean to pick on the poster of that phrase. This is something I hear all the time as an excuse for not living rightly. Yes. It is a true statement. None of us are perfect. But, that does not mean we should choose to slack off. If anything, knowing that we are imperfect, we should choose to live rightly in all aspects of our lives.

Gryphon

1st October 2002, 01:49 PM

Excellent post. I think I would have to agree. There IS a "Minimum Speed" as well on highways. If the lawmakers deemed that to be safe, I think it is Biblical to follow that recommendation.

scaredcatisatrainbowbridge

2nd October 2002, 12:45 AM

I think it is, I mean you know that what you are doing isn't right with the law. God made man and man made the law so I believe it is a sin. And anyways sin or no sin in anyones oppinion why would you want to speed to endanger yourself and others, and maybe even kill someone or yourself.

Jennie

Godsgurl4ever2006

2nd October 2002, 05:37 PM

yes it is a sin, there is not a difference in speeding and murdering they are both sins and thats that. In the bible Jesus says give to ceaser what is ceasers, and ceaser was the head offical in that time periood so he was saying obey the laws that are in place in your dwelling place.

Annabel Lee

3rd October 2002, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by Godsgurl4ever2006
yes it is a sin, there is not a difference in speeding and murdering they are both sins and thats that. In the bible Jesus says give to ceaser what is ceasers, and ceaser was the head offical in that time periood so he was saying obey the laws that are in place in your dwelling place.

Murdering...speeding. Murdering...speeding. There certainly is a difference. One is the ultimate SIN, the taking of a human life. The other is breaking the law.
Unless, of course, while speeding you kill somebody.

Did I misunderstand you, Godsgur4ever?

scott

3rd October 2002, 06:59 PM

annabel,
I think she knows there is a difference in earthly outcome to various sins, but the fact that any sin is enough to condem one to hell no matter how trivial WE might consider it is what she was referring to. Remember this: We sin because we're sinners, not we're sinners because we sin. So when we steal a pencil from our work it's because we're a sinner. When we murder it's because we're a sinner. So you see ultimately they are the same . They have the same root and they have the same eternal consequence. If people would remember that there would be a whole lot less rationalizing among Gods people.

Scott

Annabel Lee

3rd October 2002, 08:13 PM

Well Scott,
Thank you for your advice but since I am a Catholic I disagree. There are different levels of sin.It's not just the outcome. Murder is a mortal sin and telling a white lie is a venial sin.
. So you see ultimately they are the same .
No they are not the same. But since this is not a discussion area, I will leave it at that.

Stormy

3rd October 2002, 11:07 PM

I will not say that speeding is a sin in itself.

If that were true all the race car drivers would be doomed.

Speeding is stupid and dangerous.

Does God really have to tell us everything not to do? :rolleyes:

Gryphon

4th October 2002, 01:51 PM

I believe the "speeding" meant here is the one in direct violation of the law. Driving quickly doesn't necessarily entail stupidity of danger. The speed limit was 55 because of gas rationing, not life-saving.

OntheRock

5th October 2002, 12:23 PM

Breaking the law is a sin. Therefore speeding is a sin. I desire to rationalize speeding as much as many of you, beleive me, I have a high performance sports car. My mind is always trying to justify speeding. But it doesn't win. I put down what is not right.

I've noticed that some of you have put speed limits. I live in a state were the speed limit is 70mph. This is a good speed limit, not too fast and not too slow. It satifies my need for speed.

panterapat

6th October 2002, 02:25 AM

I hate to admit it because I speed. (Notice my name-Panterapat)But God has placed me subject to the US government. As long as the US government law does not conflict with the law of God- I am obliged to obey.
In Christ, Patrick

panterapat

8th October 2002, 02:47 AM

This post really got to me. It made me face up to the fact that I shouldn't be speeding. I have made it to work and home again in the past 24 hours without speeding. It was really tough.

In Christ, Patrick

aaron

5th November 2002, 04:02 AM

Originally posted by livingforJesus-Shaun
no their aint a sin is a sin

doesn't it mention one sin that is above all. I am not sure where but i think there is one part where it does mention that. if anyone know let me know.    thanks :)

JohnR7

5th November 2002, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by sakamuyo
We have a responsibility to live according to the laws our our community. I can understand breaking the laws in protest when they are in direct conflict with Scripture & there is no other way to honor God and obey the law. But, I don't see any reason why obeying the speed limit would be in conflict with Scripture.

Yep, if for no other reason we need to set a proper example for others. The religious leaders at the time of Jesus set the pace and they set an example for people to follow. The average person did not think they had to be as good as the teachers. Jesus told them otherwise. He said their righteousness had to actually exceed the righteousness of the Hebrew Religious leaders at that time. Can you image being told you have to be more righteous than a priest. Of course as it turns out, that is not so hard to do.

Homie

10th November 2002, 10:15 PM

No speeding is not a sin, 'a sin is a sin' as somebody earlier in this thread said. However, 'sampling' a peanut at the store is a sin, it is stealing. I did this once and I could feel the conscience telling me I shouldn't. But when I am speeding I don't feel bad at all. God's authority is the only thing that matters to me, the only reason I wouldn't break a man-made law is that I would be afraid of the consequences if I were caught. There are many stupid laws and regulations in my country that I wouldn't feel bad breaking. And isn't high taxation looked at as the devils work in the Bible?

sklippstein

25th November 2002, 10:11 PM

yup it's a sin...

elmo

25th November 2002, 11:00 PM

sorry for the side track, but i was wondering if there was a speed limit back in the cammel days?!?!?!?!
anyway the bible does say to obay the law of the land

caley

25th November 2002, 11:40 PM

speeding: not a sin. hurts no one, and if you get caught, it actually helps the government (they get your money). 'sin' and 'law' are not synonyms. in my view, romans 13 is not saying that god has authorized government authority, but paul is actually saying that god is the only authority that needs to be obeyed. 'submit yourself to governing authorities' just means that if you get caught, comply with the sentence because christ said 'turn the other cheek.' it doesn't mean that breaking the law was a crime in the first place. early christians broke many laws. and there are laws i break and have broken, like speeding, drinking before i turned 21, smoking the ocassional marijuana, and if the government ever instituted a draft, you can bet i'd be in jail before i'd be on the front line. none of these are sins. the bible says nothing about them.

sampling a peanut at the grocery store: depends on whether the store owner cares. if he/she does, then yes it's stealing, and therefore sinful. if not, then no. i would bet that the store owner probably does care, since it's annoying, and his employees have to clean up all the shells from those who take them, but he doesn't do anything about it because it's not worth his effort. but that doesn't make it not a sin. to be on the safe side, don't sample peanuts at the grocery store.

l33tace

26th November 2002, 07:22 AM

It's only a sin if ya speed past me when I'm seeding :P

Hehe but really though... sin or not... fastest way to the emergancy room is flat to the floor in my opinion. And if I see a big rock falling from space in MY direction... better not get in my way! Yeah let the copper write me up as we enjoy the celestial view or at least he can mail it ta me.

Peace

rssllue

2nd April 2003, 03:20 AM

It is not submitting to the authority that God has placed over us. And there is no moral reason to speed except in emergencies!

rssllue

2nd April 2003, 03:22 AM

So no speeding for "higher" reasons. God loves 55 and under; but does not hate the over 55 crowd either...lol. Just would like them to tone it down.

Konnie

20th April 2003, 11:42 AM

I'm not sure.

SoccerAaron

20th April 2003, 01:53 PM

Speeding is a sin. We are supposed to "obey the laws of our governing authority".

bop1997

30th June 2003, 03:16 AM

I put yeah...simply because if it wasn't wrong then poeple wouldn't get tickets or slow down when seen by a cop! :pray: LOL funny posts!

RevKidd

8th July 2003, 03:16 PM

What about the times when you don't know you are speeding and never realize you are speeding and don't ask for forgivness for speeding. What happens then?

I say, yes we could apply that scripture to verses already quoted. However, the Roman empire, the ruling government at that time, didn't have speed limits. IMO Christ was trying to prove a point stating that we must respect ruling government. The Majority of people don't speed out of disrespect for government. They may speed out of disrespect for other drivers but not usually for the government.

I also go to church with to Police Officers who will attest that they will give people 15 mph over the speed limit. So then, is it really a speed limit or should it be considered an approximation? Also the police officer that I go to church with has stated that there have been times when the government has wanted to raise the speed limit through a part of the expressway that goes through our town. He has stated that it is always shot down because of one thing. Lost revenue. However, they do not report that lost revenues are reason for not raising the speed limit.

Also, what about the cars we drive. My wife and I have a 96 Old Aurora with a 4.0 V8. If I am not careful I can be up to 75 and not know the difference between 75 and 55. And what about other people with bigger and faster cars. The manufacturers obviously aren't concerned about our sinning. Sure, we are still the ones who drive them and are the ones responsible for the speeds we drive. But I don't feel, in my spirit that I am "sinning". Never have, and don't think I ever will.

jesus_freak_for_life

9th July 2003, 11:04 AM

:falls on floor laughing at first option:
A sin is a sin is a sin. None are worse than others, none are better.

isshinwhat

9th July 2003, 01:01 PM

In John chapter 19, Jesus says to Pilate, "You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin." This is but one reason I believe there are various degrees of sin. All sin creates distance between us and God, but not the same amount.

I believe the sin of speeding lies in the love of self over the concern for safety for others. I think it can be prideful and intemperate. When done accidentally, though, I do not think it is sinful.

God Bless,

Neal

Blade

9th July 2003, 11:34 PM

Murdering...speeding. Murdering...speeding. There certainly is a difference. One is the ultimate SIN, the taking of a human life. The other is breaking the law.
Unless, of course, while speeding you kill somebody.

Did I misunderstand you, Godsgur4ever?

LOL I like that Annabel, oh HI..

"I just can't drive 55" when I was young I loved that song.

Yes its a sin. Knowing I can do all things yet I submit myself to mans laws that don't go aginst God word.

"I stand in ah of you Jesus, Jesus I am so in love with you"

AntiCow

9th July 2003, 11:46 PM

Speeding is bad, but recent law enforecment practices have turned it into revenue raising rather than a road safety issue. Here you get a ticket if you are 3km/h over or more! It is possible to get a ticket when your speedo says you are below the limit!

Lizquest

10th July 2003, 12:49 PM

I said yes cuz I found in the Bible it stating to also obey governmental laws. Of course sometimes it is hard to follow the speed limit.

JesseB.

10th July 2003, 12:54 PM

Speeding is a sin because we are told to obey the laws of the government. They say don't speed, so don't speed.

spirituality

11th July 2003, 09:20 PM

Is speeding a sin?  Is sampling a peanut at the grocery store without asking permission a sin?  Is there such things a little or big sins?

I think speeding in itself is not a sin...if the speeding leads to someones death than yes that is a sin...murder...

The peanut thingy is a sin b/c it is stealing...imagine if everybody did that how much money the store would lose...

Sleepy Jean

11th July 2003, 10:36 PM

I'd say it is. The police are our superiors... I think.

Alice the Sister

11th July 2003, 11:39 PM

Is it against the law?

yes.

Does the Bible say to uphold the law of the land?

yes

End of story

Speeding is technically a sin.

SUNSTONE

12th July 2003, 02:16 AM

Its only a sin if you catch me. :P

Marcel

12th July 2003, 07:56 AM

If you don't like the max speed-limit, try going everywhere on foot or by bicycle...
...then see how long it takes, before you start wishing you could travel at the speedlimit, rather than being anoyed by havng to stick to it.

I think we can get a little spoiled and unthankfull for how swift we can already travel. Traficrules are there for our safety, and personal indulgance doesn't outweigh comon interrest.

On the other hand; if you're not causing anything that a specific rule tries to prevent, you're breaking of that rule becomes little else than a technicality. If there's no other trafic in sight, and I run a red light because I see little point in waiting on account of a lightbulb, I'm not causing anyone harm or undermining safety...
...but if I get caught I shouldn't complain about the penalty; rules are rules after all.

oneiric

12th July 2003, 01:46 PM

haha I couldn't care less if it is a sin or not.

SUNSTONE

12th July 2003, 03:07 PM

haha I couldn't care less if it is a sin or not.

Not untill you get caught, then you will care. :wave:

oneiric

12th July 2003, 04:29 PM

Not really haha.
I'll pay the ticket and then buy a radar detector :)

Athlon4all

12th July 2003, 07:19 PM

Speeding is most certainly a sin because it is in the law.

spirituality

13th July 2003, 02:19 PM

Chakotay2

13th July 2003, 03:47 PM

I'm amazed at the percentage who think speeding is a sin. I agree, it is a sin as we are told to obey the laws. However, when it comes to speeding, I'd say just about everyone does it, even if they go just one or two MPH over the speed limit.

Billdemart

13th July 2003, 05:00 PM

Is speeding a sin?  Is sampling a peanut at the grocery store without asking permission a sin?  Is there such things a little or big sins?

"Never drive faster than your guardian angel can fly."

oneiric

13th July 2003, 07:01 PM

My "guardian angel" flies about 90mph on the highway. Oh what a coincidence so do I! :):):)

gecKo

13th July 2003, 09:47 PM

Well I must admit I haven't read through this whole thread, but I've been thinking a lot about this lately too. I haven't really come to my own conclusion yet as to whether it's actually a SIN but I'm sure it's not a good thing - I'm always reminded of the Bible verse "Rend unto Caesar what is Caesar's" -- we're under legal law just as much as anyone else. Oh and ya know what... if speeding definately isn't a good thing, then this verse comes into play: "anyone, then, who knows the good he ought to do and doesn't do it, sins". So there ya go.

JesseB.

6th August 2003, 11:51 AM

I believe it is a sin unless you are rushing someone to the ER at the local hospital. That's the ONLY exception. Other than that, speeding is a sin. You must put your health first though.

BarbB

6th August 2003, 11:58 AM

O-o-o-o-o, I hope not! I, too, have been thinking about this recently. Speed limits are set by the government! and are changed by the government. I don't feel that exceeding the limit is specifically sin, though I'm not sure about the "rendering to Caesar" application. My car goes fast (with my help!!!) and while I drive over the limit on interstates and other limited access roads, I do not drive unsafely. (I've got a feeling that I've walked out on an unsupported gangplank here!)

flapjack_05

6th August 2003, 12:01 PM

;) God comands us to respect those in authority over us (i.e. whoever decides the speed limit.), and obey the law (unless in contradicts God's law). When you speed you are not respecting that authority, and you are breaking a law. So yes, if you think about it, it really is a sin. Sometimes, there are emergencies and then it's not a problem, but when you speed think about it and offer God a quick prayer for forgiveness. I know it sounds silly, but I do it. And besides, as long as your only a few over, I think its alright. Just be careful about going 60 in a 30.

ModHelp

6th August 2003, 05:16 PM

Yes, it breaks the laws of man.

Unimatrix

20th August 2003, 11:19 AM

edit

bigballofyarn

24th August 2003, 02:50 AM

It's not really a "sin." It's a law that we're supposed to follow. I don't think God will hold something against us if we're in a rush on the highway. It depends on the situation and why you are speeding.

mesue

24th August 2003, 09:48 PM

There are no "little" or "big" sins. Sin is sin, and all sin separates us from God. That's why He sent Jesus to pay the penalty for our sins. Thank you Jesus :)

lil_one

24th August 2003, 09:52 PM

I think it is...

semodana

27th August 2003, 07:13 PM

Yes I think it is a sin to speed and it is one I committ often I guess we all need to be more conscious of it
Dana :pray:

potopaj

4th September 2003, 02:05 PM

I say yes it is.

I have 2 fast cars, one a 95 chevy which I race, and have legally had up to 165 MPH. Since there is no speed limit on the track I was on (it was a race) I followed ALL rules and safety requirements then it was OK.

This same car capable of actually more than 165 mph is on the road. I do not speed. I may go over the speed limit, but when I look back down and see i'm going 58 instead of 55 i ease down. This is a mistake, not sin.

yes God put government in authority over us, just as he puts a husband in authority over the wife. To ignore this, or rebel against this is to rebel against the principals of God, and God himself. Isn't this the definition of sin?

Are there exceptions? I suppose. There are laws that directly go against the law of God. Some states/countries allow gay marriage. Some allow abortions, some forbid praying to God. God's law is greater than mans law. The Bible makes this clear. But if Man's law does not contridict God's law, then we must follow Man's law, to obay God.

Remember the capability does not give us the right.

Also if there are different varients of sin, and Jesus Died on the cross for our sins, which wounds were for minor sins, and which ones were major sins?

Inspired

4th September 2003, 07:52 PM

Yes according to Romans 13 we should obey governing authorities, but it's hard when all of the other sinners are riding up your hiney.

dbaryl

25th September 2003, 12:54 PM

I'd say it is. The police are our superiors... I think.No, I think the police are public servants. :D

There are no "little" or "big" sins. Sin is sin, and all sin separates us from God.Yet, sometimes breaking a law is NOT a sin, right?

I answered "Not sure". I have a really hard time with the speed limit, not because I like to speed (right ;) ), I often don't realize how fast I'm reallly going... you turn up some fast music, get in a fast car and next thing you know... :(

Kathy

27th September 2003, 07:59 PM

If it's a sin....then I must of sinned a few times (or more)

Blondewyn

30th September 2003, 10:50 PM

Is it against the law to speed?
Then it's a sin...
unless man's law breaks God's laws.

But, assuming that you're not speeding because of civic disobedience, be convicted now!

If you can somehow show how speeding would give glory to the Lord of Lords, I'd love to see it!

Give unto Caesar...

Blondewyn

30th September 2003, 10:53 PM

but it's hard when all of the other sinners are riding up your hiney.

Since when does something difficult justify our sin?
Shouldn't it reaffirm it? We're not called to be in the world, guys.
We're on the bumpy road and it's not easy...
and people will be riding our hineys about everything.

Stand tall. Stand strong. Stand with conviction.

Kibeth

1st October 2003, 06:58 PM

I don't think speeding is a sin. Just because, well... How can someone keep from speeding or going slow? It's almost impossible to stay on the limit. If Jesus didn't die on the cross, I'm sure we'd go to Hell today for speeding... :sick::(

Inspired

3rd October 2003, 02:05 PM

Since when does something difficult justify our sin?
Shouldn't it reaffirm it? We're not called to be in the world, guys.
We're on the bumpy road and it's not easy...
and people will be riding our hineys about everything.

Stand tall. Stand strong. Stand with conviction.:scratch: um yea, I didn't try to justify anything, I lived in a town where you either went the speed of everyone else or got ran over, there were at least 3 dozens wrecks every afternoon, it was insane.

LadyBird

4th October 2003, 02:26 AM

I really don't know...I said no...but am now unsure:(.

A Taffer

6th October 2003, 04:42 PM

I believe that people should drive their cars at the posted speed limit. To go any faster is to invite disaster. Think of a road high up in the mountains thats really curvy and lets say its rated at 30 mph most of the time and 25 or 20 mph on some of the really tight curves. It might be fun to speed up and take those turns at really high speeds but its not so fun when you fall in the ravine, car blows up and your dead. Just my two cents. :)

philosophyconfusion

14th October 2003, 06:31 AM

Well, lets see how much hate mail i receive after this. First let me say my intentions before I start in. I am not forcing any religion down anyone's throat and second I believe and dont believe in Christianity so I am open to anyone's opinions. Now that I have stated my facts, let me give my opinion.

Is speeding a sin? According to the bible, everything done not in good favor is a sin. The reason we do speed is for self-satisfaction. This is wrong. Now my opinion may be different from yours, and I am repeating this because I hope everyone will be open minded, but I dont see the point of the bible. It was man made and anyone can make up something in it. For all we know, scholars could be wrong and those were just bed time stories. But I do believe in good and bad. And speeding is bad. It is however something that is done to please one's self.

But we could look at it this way. When a child is in a bed room scared of a monster, it normally wants the adult to scare it away. Or something like that. It was initally afraid of something not there in the first place. It was all mental. This is also like when people fight or stand up for themself. They are scared of a punch but it actually hasnt happened. So why should we care if people go over 100 on the highway? Were all going somewhere right? Well, i have to say that it is still wrong no matter the ideology that one uses. Its takes longer to stop and it more dangerous and could kill. So why do they do it?

Is it Satan? Or is it freewill? Here's a story. A boy buys a semi brand new car and enjoys its 2.0 liter engine with 4 cyc. His other car was 1.5 Liter so it was a little bit faster he knows. Well story goes that he takes the car out on a highway and pushes it up to 110mph. This car is with no added parts or anything, its all stock. The story ends with the boy continually doing it for the THRILL not so much because it's wrong. So is it wrong to act on thrill? Relationships begin on thrills, remember the first kiss?

Also something that feels right and is physically right (such as mentally saying it is right and the facts prove it) then it is good. Once you allow the car to bump over 25 mph (by one mile) or whatever, it is wrong. The driver was initally stupid and wasnt paying attention. And how can it be ok to go 1 mile over but not 50 over? You know if its wrong its wrong. STOP TELLING YOURSELF ITS GOOD. This is why I chose to seek answers because everything is hypocritical. WE'RE HUMAN BUT STOP SAYING ITS OK TO MAKE MISTAKES BECAUSE WERE HUMAN. Its just a lame excuse to excape from the problem.

Speeding is an addiction like drugs. You do it once and dont quit the first time, it will stick with you forever.

Quiet Storm

14th October 2003, 01:46 PM

To piggyback: I follow the speed limit because I believe it's submitting to the higher authority. Plus in doing so, I realize that if everyone were to obey the speed limit, the number of accidents would go down considerably.

Cosmic Charlie

14th October 2003, 05:02 PM

It if you put others at risk.

Droobie

14th October 2003, 07:39 PM

Bowser

14th October 2003, 07:43 PM

Obey the laws of the land.

foolsparade

14th October 2003, 08:10 PM

Ha! i thought this was a joke, but looking at the poll stats, there are many that actually believe in this nonsense. "Is speeding a sin?" hahaha, don't forget christians EVERYTHING is a sin. I would love someone to point me to scripture that supports that Jesus said not to go above posted speed limits, even though they vary from country to country. And what happends if you do? ask for forgiveness and go on about your day? thats easy enough isn't it? I speed, I ask for forgiveness, I speed again and I ask for forgiveness. and on and on... Further proof of how absurd the concept of "sin" is???:cool:

coastie

14th October 2003, 08:11 PM

Yes, speed limits are set for a reason. As long as they laws don't contradict God's laws, it is a sin to break them.

Basing the decision of whether or not it's a sin on whether or not it hurts someone is an inadequate moral judgement.

If I steal a candy bar from wal-mart, who's going to notice and who is it going to hurt.

A big corporation like Wal-mart would absorb the cost, probably without notice, and Hershey's already got their money, so it's not hurting anyone... yet, it's still a sin.

coastie

14th October 2003, 08:15 PM

foolsparade

14th October 2003, 08:22 PM

Bowser

14th October 2003, 08:40 PM

I dispute that Jesus said "obey the laws of the land" look what he did. and what if these laws are silly or unjust? Granted I recognize that speed laws are in place to save lives. But speed changes, laws change, morality changes. Is something a sin this week and not next week? Do you see what i'm getting at?
Obey the laws of the land except when they contradict God's will.

What Jesus did in the Roman government he did because it was God's will.

foolsparade

14th October 2003, 09:01 PM

Obey the laws of the land except when they contradict God's will.

What Jesus did in the Roman government he did because it was God's will.
then tell me what is God's will?? Simple question. what is it? You don't understand what I was getting at but thanks for trying..:sleep:

Bowser

14th October 2003, 09:10 PM

then tell me what is God's will?? Simple question. what is it? You don't understand what I was getting at but thanks for trying..:sleep:
God's will is His own. It's not yours and it's not mine. If He sees something that needs to be done that is His own will. Everything He does is His, just as everything I do is mine.

The point is we're not supposed to do as we will, because we should surely fail as we are not perfect. We are to do as the Almighty does, since he is righteous and sovereign.

Droobie

14th October 2003, 09:16 PM

philosophyconfusion

14th October 2003, 09:52 PM

Welcome to ChristianForums PhilosophyConfusion. I hope you enjoy your time here on the boards. The topic at hand here is "Is speeding a sin?" Which is different to whether it is good or bad? We as Christians believe that anything not of God is a sin. How does this relate to your local traffic laws? Well, we are under the authority of our governments. We are charged in the Bible to follow the authority of those elected and those who make the laws. So legally, if we disobey those laws, we are sinning.

Speed limits are put in place for the safety of others. They're there for a reason, and it's a proven and known fact, that a major cause of traffic crashes/injuries and deaths are caused by speeding.

But what if you disagree with the elected government? Hypothetically, what were to happen if a dictator were to gain control of your country and pass laws that everyone who is left handed should have their left hands chopped off? Are we to follow the authority of such a government?Ok please bear with me while I restate the facts that you have given me. Speeding isn't about what is good and what is bad but that it is based on whether we disobey the laws of the land. By disobeying we are basically going to hell or something or we should yell out repent and hope we go to this magical place called heaven.

Ok, well how can you say that we should listen to the laws of the land if we don't feel if they are right? Who are they to tell us what is wrong and what is right? You know what i find funny about religion is that when the settlers went to transform these African nations and little nations to Christianity, and these nations gave up a big part of them. They did things as we normally do. So is being nice wrong? How do you know? Why was it wrong to kill? Mass murders do things and they believe it was right to do. Who are you to change their mind? Are you scared to die yourself? How do you know that it's ok to kill or sacrifice? Basically how can you honestly tell me that their Gods are the correct ones to worship?

Back to the point about speeding. Yes it is wrong, but you must weigh the differences. You know they post the speed limits slower (political reasons) then what it could actually be at. Some roads that are 35 mph could actually be at a higher speed but they know people will tend to go at that speed and thats how the state makes it's quota. Argue or Argue not. But for safety reasons? Please. You can die at 35 mph and at 200 mph. There is no such thing as safety, because it starts with the driver and his car. If he knows how to maintain the car, he can know when to get it up to speed. He will know how to move the car the way he wants it to go. Not everyone who speeds especially at high speeds dies. It is only the juicy details you see everyday on TV that someone dies but for one that dies there are many many many who still do it and never die as a result.

So everyone in this forum will believe a book, supposely by men who were somehow possed with the holy spirit, called the bible? Aren't Christians being one-sides because they dont see the view points of others? If a devil worshiper came up to you, would you honestly talk to him like a person? Would you think he would try to scarfice you? Or would you try to "save" him? haha. Back to my point again about the African Nations for example, you could imagine they did things that would turn our stomachs but why were they wrong? How do you define what's right and wrong? Sin is something wrong so droobie, you can say what is right and wrong. Sinning is wrong, am i correct? So yes this foreum leads to the question of is it right or is it wrong? And you have to know what is right and what is wrong. But you can't define it. If you believe one book called the bible, then you are not opening your mind to other possibilities. For example, Everyone is scared to die, so they envision a beautiful afterlife. What if we cease to exist? What if there is not after life, or we forget everything and are reincarnated? Most people will skim over that part. So yes this forum is if speeding is right or wrong? Would people be punished? According to the bible, yes. According to life, i still say yes. But i dont just use one source to find my answer.

I am a skeptic, i must see it to believe it. You know what tho, a book that has been translated many times, and no one knows anything about it isnt good enough proof of evidence of a GOD. Everyone interprets it different and will fight over it. Show me something visual (proof). So is speeding a sin? How can sin exist if they is no proof of existance or life after death? The only way to test this theory is to try to enter the "gates" by ending one's life now. But its a one way trip apparantly. haha.

philosophyconfusion

14th October 2003, 09:57 PM

I dispute that Jesus said "obey the laws of the land" look what he did. and what if these laws are silly or unjust? Granted I recognize that speed laws are in place to save lives. But speed changes, laws change, morality changes. Is something a sin this week and not next week? Do you see what i'm getting at?
I agree. What was right before changes the next day. Who changes them? Men? Yup.

You know laws do change because why is it wrong in Japan to spit on the ground but here its ok to do that? It's actually stupid.

Nice saying foolsparade.

philosophyconfusion

14th October 2003, 10:06 PM

The topic at hand is a question that applies to Christians. For those that do not follow the Christian faith, this topic would have no meaning to them. We appreciate those that put forward their views and opinions, however please keep to the topic at hand. There are other forums available to discuss apologetics.
Why droobie? This forum is suppose to talk about is it a sin, right? It should be allowed to be open minded to others opinions. Again, as i put earlier, people tend to only listen to one source of information and called it the day. This forum should be debated with an open-ended question such as is speeding a sin. I don't believe you know how to debate with someone because I believe you are at the end of the line. You dont know what else to say. Basically you only know one answer, (GOD), and when someone like me pushes a question of doubt in your mind, you want to throw me out. Why?

I am taking a few simple things and asking questions. Why can't they be answered? First the question was, is it a sin to speed. Well i defined speeding (which is over the posted speed limit by just a tiny fraction of a mile or more) and i was asking about sin. Sin is only to those who believe in the bible. So in order for my side to understand sin, you must be willing to explain it to me. If you can quote other sources, i would love to hear your side. But if it's a one-sided opinion, then of course i can see why you give up and try to push us away.

This view would have meaning to me if you tried to showed us your opinion. I showed why sin was just a hypocritical thing, so i just gave examples to go along with it. Try me. I would love to listen.

Droobie

14th October 2003, 10:26 PM

Why droobie? This forum is suppose to talk about is it a sin, right? It should be allowed to be open minded to others opinions. Again, as i put earlier, people tend to only listen to one source of information and called it the day. This forum should be debated with an open-ended question such as is speeding a sin. I don't believe you know how to debate with someone because I believe you are at the end of the line. You dont know what else to say. Basically you only know one answer, (GOD), and when someone like me pushes a question of doubt in your mind, you want to throw me out. Why?

I am taking a few simple things and asking questions. Why can't they be answered? First the question was, is it a sin to speed. Well i defined speeding (which is over the posted speed limit by just a tiny fraction of a mile or more) and i was asking about sin. Sin is only to those who believe in the bible. So in order for my side to understand sin, you must be willing to explain it to me. If you can quote other sources, i would love to hear your side. But if it's a one-sided opinion, then of course i can see why you give up and try to push us away.

This view would have meaning to me if you tried to showed us your opinion. I showed why sin was just a hypocritical thing, so i just gave examples to go along with it. Try me. I would love to listen.
The purpose and subject of this particular topic does not cover the questions and points you have raised. "What is sin" is an entirely different question in my opinion, and should be another topic altogether. I'm not saying that it is not related, but best talked about elsewhere.

You are right in that I have not adequately answered your questions. I do believe that this particular topic/forum is not the best place for it, and there are also other members who are better than I at discussing these questions with you. I admit I am not one of those.

philosophyconfusion

15th October 2003, 05:08 AM

But your wrong Droobie. Its all about understanding a question that is asked before one can answer. Let me ask you something. What color is my hair? You would most obviously have to learn about my hair, right? Maybe see a most recent picture of me? Seems right. What if i asked is it a sin to speed. Well it has to be understood for the general audience what speed is, and what is a sin. If you can't answer it, its ok. But i am generally interested in peoples answers. But I figured since you being a moderator, you could be able to at least understand this. But i want to know what is it mean to sin?

Lil Monkee

15th October 2003, 06:49 PM

Is speeding a sin? Is sampling a peanut at the grocery store without asking permission a sin? Is there such things a little or big sins?Hi

I believe speeding is a sin. My reason for this is because people get hurt, die, all because someone wants to get somewhere faster. I have a friend her mum was driving the car speeding and she was in the back, her younger brother in the front, her mum lost control and swerved on the wrong side of the road and hit head on with another car, the other car overturned about 3 times and 2 people in the other car died and my friends brother was killed instantly, my friend suffered head injuries and now suffers from epilepsy because of that accident, an accident that never should have happened and one that could have been prevented. At the time of the accident my friend was about 9 and her brother was 5 years old. Speeding is as bad as drink driving.

Tasting a peanut and not asking first is wrong its stealing thats why prices go up all the time.

A sin is a sin, little or big, its still a sin but none of us are perfect and so if we know its wrong we should really try hard not to do it.

Hugs

Droobie

15th October 2003, 09:01 PM

But i want to know what is it mean to sin?
To answer your question about "What is sin" I would need to give reference to the Bible, as it applies to my life. I believe sin to be anything that is not of God, and contrary to what is stated in the Bible.

I see your point. You're right in that the question at the beginning of this topic requires pre-knowledge of Christian concepts. Now if one does not believe in the Bible or God, then that definition would not mean anything. If one is going to need more information with "Is speeding a sin"... "What is sin"... "Who is God?"... "Does God exist"... we have a forum for such questions about Christianity.

SuperTrooper

19th October 2003, 08:43 AM

<---- if its a sin, then I am guilty of this. Not so much anymore, but when I had my mod'd mustang....I knew no such speed limit.

doofus125

19th October 2003, 09:29 AM

Echo

20th October 2003, 05:26 PM

Be responsible maybe? Be always in control of the vehicle and try not to harm anybody. Common sense. Yes, it's s a "sin". Yes, I speed sometimes.

Echo

philosophyconfusion

21st October 2003, 07:28 AM

Around here if you don't speed you get run over, tailgated, or the high beams and horn.....an example, the Parkway (north, south, east or west) in Pittsburgh, PA the speed limit is 55mph...if you don't do at least 70-80mph you will get run over, most of the accidents on the Parkways is that people following the speed limit, if they would just speed up a little they wouldn't be getting rear ended or clipped.....During rush hour (morning and evening) the police don't even sit out with their radar guns, otherwise they would have to pull everyone over..... (Can you tell that I speed, hehehe :) )
Couldn't you equally say that those accidents were caused by the speeders and not the one's who followed the law? The mentality of a speeder will try to justify his actions. According to Drdriving . org, under Appendix A: Additional Entries for the Taxonomy The 18 Behavioral Zones of Driving, LACK OF COGNITIVE RESPONSIBILITY includes creating subjective or self-serving driving scenarios as a reason to speed. This website isn't about religion but about the driving psychology of the many who drive.

So in response to what you have put, you have said that speeding was alright because of the others who speed around you. But this is not alright. It is a peer pressure that forces you to speed. This is why there are accidents because of teenage punks to old grandmas who disobey the law.

If you would like another link to futher my understanding, try going to drdriving. org/articles/christ.htm. Along with the belief of God, it talks about how God and Christ would like you to act when driving.

I would like to end saying there is a way to help yourself. I would like the roads to be a bit safer so here is a way to improve yourself.

Driver Personality Makeover

1 : Work on your feelings -- say this to yourself:
I Acknowledge that I'm out of control at the wheel Attitude --> Emotional control --> Altruism

2 : Work on your thoughts -- say this to yourself:
I Witness myself being out of control at the wheel

Knowledge --> Judgment --> Wisdom

3 : Work on your actions -- say this to yourself:
I Modify myself one step at a time

Alertness --> Calmness --> Kindness

The threestep program Acknowledging that you are part of the aggressive driving problem Witnessing yourself behind the wheel Modifying yourself one step at a time
It is the three step program found at drdriving.org/articles/three_step.htm and this will help you over come the temptation to speed. Try visiting their website they have very good information. If you don't do it for yourself, do it for the others you could kill (you know the ones who do the speed limit that dont deserve to suffer).

doofus125

21st October 2003, 09:06 AM

philosophyconfusion

21st October 2003, 05:22 PM

Yeah, but you have to remember it's not a christian's only highway so there are people out there that don't give a darn about anything but themselves getting somewhere and the thing I'm finding is that is the mentality of alot of people up here.
Yes this is true, but I was aiming the post toward what you had quoted earlier. I saw that you were non-denamination so I figured that I would try to help you out a little.

Basically the world will have its good and its bad. But you can try to allievate some of it if you work with a few at a time. If I can help you think about the next time you accerate, maybe you can teach your kids or family, and they will teach their family or friends etc..... Then we have so many people trying to help the others. If you had said that it was ok to hurt people, and I gave you reasons why you can't and you replied back saying that its not just a Christian world out there then you have issues. Check it out. You tell me because it's not a Christian highway that you should try your hardest to make it one. It's ok to race then, and speed excessively? So if you say that its not a Christian world, that it's ok to hurt people?

Next thing is that you made sure to tell me that it's the mentality of the drivers who speed that they dont believe in the Christian faith or they dont care whether they speed. The funny thing about it is that you must believe it too. I noticed that you said in other posts that you like to speed. So I guess you eat your own words this time.

Finally, just because it's not a Christian Highway shouldnt mean you should seperate the others from the rest. I wont spend too much time talking about this but there are others out there who dont believe in good or bad or God and Devil but will spend the time to try to perform satisfaction for others. A lot of people who speed is the result of peer pressure or because their family did it, so they assume it was ok. Like one man's mom could always speed and so he did it to. Try thinking about the next time someone passes you. It's not your fault for going the speed limit, it is their fault for making the road unsafe.

Deacon

21st October 2003, 05:24 PM

Is speeding a sin.....hmmmmm good question....very good question in fact. I would have to say.....well no....not really. Its against the law yes....but if you have controlled speed and you are not reckless then no. I speed(of course I am a police officer so I speed on and off duty :P) but....no I don't think it is....if purposely putting someone in danger....yes thats a sin.

ps139

24th October 2003, 09:02 PM

doofus125

25th October 2003, 07:54 AM

Speed limits are set lower than intended. For instance, on highways, I almost always go 10mph over the speed limit. "But the limit is 55mph!!" True, and they expect 65mph, and don't want 75+mph.

I believe speed limits are set with full knowledge that people will speed. Therefore they are set lower.

An aunt of mine always comes late to family functions. Do you know what we do? We tell her it starts a full hour before it actually starts. This way she is only 5 or 10 minutes late :)
Wow, what part of the US are you in? 5 over here on the highways and interstates will get you a ticket and 1 mph over here in town will get you a ticket also......I can do 4mph over on the highways (except the parkway where everyone does like 90, lol.....

Deacon

25th October 2003, 10:45 AM

I think th question is....what part of the US do you live in?

I have never heard that in my life. Except in Colorado because there speeds are already 75+

doofus125

25th October 2003, 11:50 AM

I think th question is....what part of the US do you live in?

I have never heard that in my life. Except in Colorado because there speeds are already 75+
I live near Pittsburgh, PA......I don't live in the same county as Pittsburgh, I live east in the suburbs, but the state and local police swarm the area.....within a 10 mile strech of road it's not supprising to see 3-4 state police along the road with their radar guns out the window and they are very strict about the speed limit and even in the town I live in they are even stricter, the speed limit is 25 through town and if they clock you doing 26 they pull you over and give you a ticket.....I know of quite a few places, even out of state like just North of Beckly, WV on Rt. 19 that if you don't do exactly the speed limit that they will pull you over....everytime I go through there I see 6-10 police cars within a mile with at least 3-4 people pulled over each, they come up next to you and point and tell you to pull over....it's not that extreme here, but there are alot of areas that are very strict....my friends dad is a police officer with the k-9 unit and says that 1 mph over that they can pull you over, but most areas allow a 4 mph grace period, once you reach 5 mph over they will pull you over and being there is such a high concentration of police here people tend not to exceed the speed limit to much.....except for the parkways going out of pittsburgh because there is such a high volume of traffic that they can not control it......

geekbuster

25th October 2003, 12:15 PM

i'm from RI, and its just like ps139 said - the limit on the highway is 55, but no one actually goes 55 you'd probably get yourself killed - but its just like he said its as if the limit is actually 65, nobody goes slower than that, and you basically have very little chance of getting pulled over as long as you stay under 75 and sometimes you can go even faster - i've driven by a cop going 80+ on a 55 and havn't been pulled over but you always try and keep under 75

but yeah, because they way the traffic goes around here i don't think that speeding is a sin, i agree with DNC, that as long as you have control and aren't being reckless

MyLeaderisJesus

25th October 2003, 12:21 PM

No, Speeding is not a sin but consider that if you're speeding above Speed limit you are putting your life in danger.

James Sez

25th October 2003, 12:43 PM

I went to a Fundamentalist Christian high school. One of the major discussions was "Will you be taken up in the rapture if you are speeding during that time?" and of course "Will you be raptured if you are doing the M thing?" :eek: It was NO! on both counts. Ouch! No wonder I'm a liberal.

99 meaningless posts and counting.

Roxa

30th October 2003, 03:11 AM

speeding is a sin. the bible says to follow the laws of the land and the laws of the land say not to speed.

there is no such thing as a big sin or little sin. In God's eyes they are all the same.

Salsa_1960

30th October 2003, 01:05 PM

Xaleth

1st November 2003, 05:59 PM

I became aware of this whole "speeding is a sin" through someone showing me Romans 13. Alright, after I read this post, oh, over... 1 month ago? I came back, and it's actually not a dead, archived post. So, now someone can answer my questions!

Ready? I'm a pre-licensed driver. (Hence: permit.) I have my road test in, oh... 11 days.

Here is my problem: I've been driving on and off for 6 months. (now, it's almost never, thanks to the lovely guilt trip I get driving.) I lack any control over my speed. I lack the gift of sensing the pressure or whatever that the DMV manual claims you develop over time. In other words, when I press the pedal, I have only the faintest idea of how fast I am going.

Now, before I was told this was a sin, I would generally go what speed "felt" right, and if I noticed it was way too fast, I would slow down. I would look when i felt like it, not out of some obsessive urge to not sin. Now? I have to look oh... EVERY 3 - 5 SECONDS.

Wait a minute. That's a sin too! Because by doing that, I'm being reckless! By not keeping my eyes on the road, I am endangering other drivers as equally (more like, incredibly more.) as I am by speeding. (by speeding, I mean going 1 - 3 over due to no control of the pedal.) So wait, I'm sinning, and sinning, and sinning, and sinning, and sinning. Basically I'll be sinning everytime I sit in the driver's seat for a good while.

So, I guess I'm asking someone here who believes it is a sin to explain something simple to me. What makes the speeding you are doing a sin?

If you go one over by accident, it's a sin? (we're all basically sinning then.)

Okay, I'm going to assume accidental speeding is okay, assuming you rectify it. Now: How often do you have to check your speedometer to make sure you aren't making these "accidents," and not be a reckless driver as well? And don't say "cruise control." Just don't. A) Cruise control is meaningless in most of the driving I'll be doing. (non-interstate/highway roads.) B) On the highway, the cruise control puts me to sleep, as an added factor to the highway hypnosis.

Thanks for your help! Reminder, I'm trying to salvage what's left of driving to me, and not have it become a boring chore before I actually start driving.

Salsa_1960

1st November 2003, 07:13 PM

You ask some good questions. You don't give your age but I'm guessing that you are around 15 or 16. Most of it is practice. You are probably thinking, but Sandy, you don't drive...easy for you to say. Yes, but I used to drive. (I just don't drive currently for health reasons). Start small. Take short trips as much as possible and if you don't yet trust yourself driving back and forth to work, there's always the bus system (or however you're getting to work right now).

Also, this may sound like a silly question, but it's meant in all seriousness-- do you have problems with hyperactivity or ADHD? I ask this because it runs in my family. I also used to be a teacher and so I am somewhat familiar with it. It can create problems with control and impulsiveness. (And not necessarily on purpose either). You don't mean to press the pedal that hard. You just don't have as good of control as another person your age might have. ADHD can affect motor (physical) control as well as behavioral control. Motor control for a 2nd grader might mean poor handwriting. (Common with ADHD). For a 15 year old, it might mean poor control of the gas pedal.

Just a thought-- and not at all judgemental, BTW. I don't see that type of speeding as a sin. Not unless you become aware of it and don't correct it. Do however, try to make yourself aware of it as often as possible. Look at your speedometer as often as possible. (That's another ADHD thing, BTW.....trouble concentrating on 2 things at the same time-- such as your speedometer and the road).....And if you're not ready for long bouts of driving, take your time learning it. Better that than a fatal accident.

~Sandy

crazy_4_christ

1st November 2003, 11:53 PM

God views all sins the same. Whether its murder or disobeying your parents. As far as trying a peanut, i don't think people will mind, and speeding, well that depends on how fast you are goin' and what the speed limit is. if you are over the speed limit, that would be speeding. And i think that would be against the law. so I think it would be a sin.

philosophyconfusion

2nd November 2003, 07:38 AM

Yes.

Although, I would say that (as with many rules), there are exceptions.

If your father is having a heart attack in the car 3 miles from the hospital, do you keep under the limit or do you speed up and get him to the hospital?

If a man is drowning and a sign says "No swimming," do you jump in and save him or do you obey the rules and walk away?

Rahab lied about the spies up on the roof. (Joshua 2:4-6)
(And she was commended in Hebrews 11 for it).

The midwives lied about Moses' birth. (Exodus 1:18-20)
(And God blessed them for it).

There are exceptions to many rules.......but yes, I believe speeding is a sin because we are told to "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's."

That being said, I don't drive. :D

~Sandy
Good question. If your father is having a heart attack, wouldn't you say that speeding is putting other's lives in danger? It might be saving a life, but look how many you could kill. You know what you are doing? You are making excuses for reasons to sin.

I like your reference to the "no swimming" rule because it has nothing to do with swimming. If it says no swimming, it is probably because there is something bad in the water that could harm you or maybe because it would be unsafe because it is "swim at your own risk." So jumping in a stupid swimming pool is not the same as causing a 10 car pile up because some idiot was racing to get to the hospital. Quoting the bible may help you make your point, but it can only do so much to say that your over looking the facts. Your view is based on how you were raised but I look at the facts before I make a judgement call. If I see someone drowning, I would rather stick in a pole or something to get them. Its happened before. If there isnt a pole, then oh well. Nah, they can grab my hand, haha.

Now when you say that you don't drive, that is funny. You say it is a sin, yet you dont drive because of the sins. Wierd how that works out.

But exceptions to each rule only rule out if you want to make loopholes in the system. If it is wrong, it is wrong. There is no well it can be right to do it like this, but then... That is setting the world up for more failure. If we want peace and harmony, we have to set the right ways and the wrong ways. But Sandy, nice view but your facts dont lead in the right path.

Josh

JayD

2nd November 2003, 03:41 PM

A classic phrase "Its only illegal if you get caught." Seeing God is all knowing and we are told in the Bible that we are to respect the Law of Ceaser then it is an act of disobedience - and pretty dumb to! Too many people are getting killed on the roads as it is.

The_Saint

2nd November 2003, 09:36 PM

Is speeding a sin?

What is sin? God gave us a law. Anyone who goes against that law has sinned. Doing anything contrary to God's Word is sin. Speeding is not listed amongst His law.

However, when I talked to God, He made the following ruling: "Anyone with four or more DUI's or DWI's is cut off." So, you can say that drinking and driving is a sin, a sin to death if you have 4 DUI's.

For those of you who do not know what the offense is, a DUI is Driving Under the Influence of alcohol and a DWI is Driving While Intoxicated.

The_Saint

2nd November 2003, 09:50 PM

I would also like to add to my last post that when God brought up the subject of DUI's (or DWI's) that God originally wanted 3 DUI's to cut off a person as in 3 strikes and you are out, however, I talked God up to 4 DUI's because of the way people are. Hopefully, I saved a few more people from destruction in Hell!

Xaleth

3rd November 2003, 05:23 PM

Sandy: No, I'm not ADHD, hyperactive, in need of riddalin, or a new car. I forgot to specify. In my state, it's illegal to go too slow and hold up traffic. (remember, I may have to follow rules, [still debating this one] but the majority of other drivers out there don't believe they do, hence, they'll be speeding) So, that kind of puts me at going the exact speed limit.

Since everyone's saying it's a sin if you go over the speed limit even by one mile it's a sin, how is it possible to keep the speed limit, not go too slow, if its too hard to sense the pressure. Im not talking about 5-10 MPH difference, im talking about minute differences like a .1 - 2 MPH. You understand right?

How is it possible to follow every single rule when the margin for being "legal" is so thin? It's either reckless driving, driving too slow, or speeding.

Salsa_1960

3rd November 2003, 07:59 PM

Well, like I said. I don't drive but when I did I recall that problem. The only time I was stopped for speeding though was when my speedometer was off. It said I was going 35 when infact I was going about 50. Hopefully, you'll get the feel of it.

~Sandy

Palatka44

3rd November 2003, 08:24 PM

Is speeding a sin? Is sampling a peanut at the grocery store without asking permission a sin? Is there such things a little or big sins?
Father forgive me for I have sinned.:prayer: :eek: :cry:

Amanda-Soo

4th November 2003, 11:34 PM

I see the speed limit more as a guidline as what is the safest speed for all of us to go. I think that it's best to be followed within 5 miles per hour... If you put someones life in danger with the speed you are driving then slow down!

I do see sampling food in a store as a sin. It's taking something that isn't yours and you haven't paid for.

I believe all sins are equal.

Rainbow.

4th November 2003, 11:39 PM

Its quite clear in the bible that we must live to the laws of the land
So anything outside of the law must be a sin.

djconklin

10th November 2003, 05:32 PM

Yes, "Thou shalt not ride thy camel at more than 50 hoofsteps per minute"
Not in a residential zone!

It's definately hard to avoid keeping up with rush hour traffic!

Drove through Chicago in a construction zone on the freeway--we were all doing 60--including the policeman to the right of me!

Snowy

10th November 2003, 09:37 PM

if you speed and hurt or kill anyone....then yes it is a sin

johnhusswannabe

6th December 2003, 01:12 AM

If its in your law, then its a sin to speed because you are opposing the authority that God has set in place - all authority comes from God. Peace :)

Jag
sorry, but the speed limit is not a law. Laws are passed through congress and the speed limit has never been passed through congress mainly because it can't be strictly enforced. The speed limit is just a standard that is set usually by the secretary of state in each individual state for the state roads, and by the commisioners of each local government.
I am a deputy, and I have seen people get out of tickets in court who exceeded the speed limit because they made the case that they didn't endanger anbody's lives or violate anybody's civil rights, and i completely agree with it. Sometime speed limits are set so low because they know that nobody will abide by them. In other words, they are set so low specifically to be made as speed traps which results in money for the local government. I consider this to be a form of harrassment.

Palatka44

6th December 2003, 01:18 AM

JC_FREAK

8th December 2003, 07:23 AM

johnhusswannabe

8th December 2003, 11:01 PM

Well, you are breaking the laws of the country so technically it is. I don't think that there is such things as and big and little sin. If you have broke one little rule in Gods law, you have broke the whole law. It is like having a bracelet, when one is link is broken, the whole chain is broken!!!
Again, the speed limit is not a law. There has never been a bill introduced through congress to enact the speed limit as law. If it was a law then I would not see people get out of tickets in court when they challenge the judge about violating anybody's civil rights.

geeserver

9th December 2003, 01:50 AM

nope. the only sin - unbelief in Christ!!!!

SlowRoasted

10th December 2003, 04:08 AM

yes it is

Suchness

10th December 2003, 07:27 AM

I believe since they are set by everyday people who work for the city, and not created by our goverment through passing it as a law, it's not a sin. It's debatable though.

JillLars

10th December 2003, 07:47 AM

I would say that if you are putting people's lives in danger by speeding then you are sinning. I'm also not sure that the speed limit is not a law, if you speed and get a ticket it is a misdemeanor, just like other small crimes that are against the law. You have to go to court and plead guilty or innocent, so obviously there is some sort of legal statute, whether it be set by city, county, state, or federal government, the bible says to follow the government.

Cory

17th December 2003, 05:33 AM

sorry, but the speed limit is not a law. Laws are passed through congress and the speed limit has never been passed through congress mainly because it can't be strictly enforced. The speed limit is just a standard that is set usually by the secretary of state in each individual state for the state roads, and by the commisioners of each local government.
I am a deputy, and I have seen people get out of tickets in court who exceeded the speed limit because they made the case that they didn't endanger anbody's lives or violate anybody's civil rights, and i completely agree with it. Sometime speed limits are set so low because they know that nobody will abide by them. In other words, they are set so low specifically to be made as speed traps which results in money for the local government. I consider this to be a form of harrassment.

good point...

Speeding tickets to me are more like a game (don't get me wrong... speeding can be dangerous... blah blah... but there are places you can speed and be safe.) Radar detectors make this game even more fun... I don't trust my detector completely but it sure is fun to know that when I crest that hill... there will be a cop sitting there :)
I like to say " If you can pay your way out of it..." :cool: :)

Cory (6 more months before I can get another ticket :))

b-boy champ

17th December 2003, 04:57 PM

Yeh it is a sin because it is a law, but if you repent then you sahll be forgiven!

thesword

17th December 2003, 06:46 PM

Yes. The Bible specifically says so.

Proverbs 19:2:
Also, that the soul be without knowledge, it is not good; and he that hastens with his feet sins.

JOshua

DMX

18th December 2003, 01:53 PM

Sin is a transgression of God's law. Civil authorities are recognized by God, and providing civil laws are not contrary to one's faith, one is expected to observe them. I am not sure the failure to do so could be considered a sin, but at the very least, it is disobeying the law as defined by divinely recognized authorities.

creeb

21st December 2003, 05:58 PM

unfortunately it says in the bible we should pray for and obey those chosen to rule over us only excuse for disobeying the ruler is when he give a command that contraveens god laws dont think speeding fit in to that catagory im afraid much as I may wish it did

Lizquests

22nd December 2003, 04:07 AM

I believe that it is a sin since God says to obey manmade laws also. I know that I am guilty of it many times unfortunately.

bigsierra

27th January 2004, 01:56 AM

ChristsChick

27th January 2004, 08:42 AM

It's a sin, cause it says somewhere in the Bible we're meant to obey the laws of our land and pray for our rulers or something, so even though it's really tempting we shouldn't do it. The only reason we should go against our countries law is if it means going against something in the Bible

Oblivious

27th January 2004, 05:14 PM

I don't believe that the fact the I drive 5 mph over the speed limit on the interstate is such a sin that it will send me to hell. Like police officers don't speed all the time, please. :P

renaistre

27th January 2004, 05:31 PM

I don't believe that the fact the I drive 5 mph over the speed limit on the interstate is such a sin that it will send me to hell.

I don't think of sins in terms of "this one will send me to hell" or "this one won't." I think all sins, whether "big" or "small," are simply evidence of our sinfull nature that will send us to hell if we don't repent.

I think I agree with those of you who have said speeding is a sin because of our obligation to follow human laws. But things get trickier 1) when driving too slow causes a traffic hazard or 2) in the states where there are "percieved speed" laws, in other words, the limit isn't absolute. I think AZ and a few other states are like this.

silent cake

27th January 2004, 06:15 PM

Hi all, it is quite interesting, because I was asked this similiar question from a non-christian friend of mine...I agree it is a sin, as we should obey the laws of the land, but being truthful, I have probably gone a couple of miles over the speed limimt in my time and I have never asked for repentence...ooops...sorry Lord!

silent cake

27th January 2004, 06:16 PM

undefined :priest: Hi all, it is quite interesting, because I was asked this similiar question from a non-christian friend of mine...I agree it is a sin, as we should obey the laws of the land, but being truthful, I have probably gone a couple of miles over the speed limimt in my time and I have never asked for repentence...ooops...sorry Lord! :cry:

UgL_Quicksilver

27th January 2004, 11:56 PM

I Do not think that it is a sin...i mean come on people...be realistic here!

lipsofbinzer

28th January 2004, 02:47 PM

No, if you were to call everything that someone did that was against someone's idea of right breathing might even become a sin. Kind of like knowing when to pick your battles you need to let some things slide.

lipsofbinzer

28th January 2004, 02:47 PM

renaistre

28th January 2004, 04:39 PM

No, if you were to call everything that someone did that was against someone's idea of right breathing might even become a sin.

This isn't just something that is against someone's idea of right. It is a law of our state governments. We are supposed to obey them. There are no laws prohibiting breathing as far as I know.

-Evan

GraceReborn

28th January 2004, 05:14 PM

No... the laws of man are not the laws of God. I don't believe speeding is a sin. It IS against the law... but, not a sin.

philosophyconfusion

29th January 2004, 06:01 PM

I don't believe that the fact the I drive 5 mph over the speed limit on the interstate is such a sin that it will send me to hell. Like police officers don't speed all the time, please. :P
They have a right to speed, unlike us. Just because they speed, however, doesnt make it right for you or I to. I am not saying it is right or wrong, I am saying that you can't use someone or something else to excuse your bad behavior. If you speed, then you sin. You sin because you break the law of the land.

Oblivious

29th January 2004, 07:05 PM

They have a right to speed, unlike us. Just because they speed, however, doesnt make it right for you or I to. I am not saying it is right or wrong, I am saying that you can't use someone or something else to excuse your bad behavior. If you speed, then you sin. You sin because you break the law of the land.
I strongly disagree. If a police officer is not on a call, he/she does not have anymore right to spend then you or I do. That's like saying do as I say, not as I do.

Wahwax

30th January 2004, 04:55 PM

Only if one of your parents was one of the government officials who determined the speed limit. Then you would not be honoring your parents.

Wahwax

30th January 2004, 04:58 PM

Jesus violated several laws of the land, yet he never sinned.

Neenie

31st January 2004, 12:17 AM

I Do not think that it is a sin...i mean come on people...be realistic here!

I agree!!

jtPaladin

31st January 2004, 05:00 AM

Speeding falls under the Vehicle Code. The Vehicle Code is sometimes an arbitrary and often revolving set of laws that are far too often incomprehensible to even police officers. To try and establish it as part of a moral code is absurd. The Vehicle Code is NOT a set of moral laws that dictate the proper conduct of a person's life as a Christian. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

So, no, speeding is not a sin.

FBI78

2nd February 2004, 04:36 PM

Speeding is a sin cause if you are u are breaking a law which we are to abide by.

Wahwax

4th February 2004, 12:02 PM

Speeding is a sin cause if you are u are breaking a law which we are to abide by.

Jesus violated several laws of the land, yet he never sinned.

Angeldove97

5th February 2004, 04:41 AM

Maybe if it puts another person in danger....but otherwise I don't think God has said anything about it lol

Wahwax

5th February 2004, 03:05 PM

Maybe if it puts another person in danger......

Good point.

growingupinhim

5th February 2004, 10:01 PM

It's not a mortal sin, but it is sin none the less. Any transgression against God's will is sin, no matter how big or small. As stated before, we are to obey the laws of the land, since that is Gods will. Romans 13
romans 13 is pretty clear...though I am the one most of you pass and get mad with because I actually go 25 mph when it says 25 mph! :wave:

Kathryn

9th February 2004, 12:02 PM

We are no longer under specific laws of sin. Sin is anytime you chose your will over God's Will. So ask yourself, does God want me to speed, endangering the lives of everyone else on the road? And now that I know God's Will, am I going to obey or disobey?

Dang it, now I'm convicted to obey the speed limit! Look what ya did! :blush:

Apologetic

10th February 2004, 07:00 AM

Well, we are to keep the laws of our society unless they go against the law of our God.

But speeding can be necessary to save lives. I don't believe it is a sin in those situations. there should be a "depends" option

JillLars

10th February 2004, 07:23 AM

romans 13 is pretty clear...though I am the one most of you pass and get mad with because I actually go 25 mph when it says 25 mph! :wave:I wouldn't get mad at ya :) I just get mad at the people who go 50 in a 65, but I also get mad at the people who go 80 in a 65. I try not to go more than 5 mph over the speed limit.

MYMOM

15th February 2004, 02:53 PM

WHAT SPEED WOULD JESUS GO?

HappyPrincess

11th March 2004, 08:56 AM

We have to follow the earthly laws unless a higher law intervenes (So when Nebuchanezzer told his people to bow to him, Daniel was NOT sinning in refusing to do so because God's law tells us to worship only only him)

TrustNo1

13th March 2004, 06:00 AM

no its not a sin because i will never do it. i hope.... :|

Spurgeon

14th March 2004, 01:33 AM

We are commanded to obey the laws of our country (that do not oppose God's law).

growingupinhim

16th March 2004, 12:16 AM

[font=Arial][size=3]I wouldn't get mad at ya :) I just get mad at the people who go 50 in a 65, but I also get mad at the people who go 80 in a 65. I try not to go more than 5 mph over the speed limit.
Actually most states have a 4 miles over the speed limit grace..however I would say 3/4 of people speed 10-25 mph over limit....Be safe!

TrustNo1

16th March 2004, 03:05 AM

depends on the circumstances. if your wife is having a baby and an ambulance will take too much time speeding wouldnt be a sin.

Oblivious

16th March 2004, 03:36 PM

WHAT SPEED WOULD JESUS GO?
Depends on what he drove ;)

elivi

18th March 2004, 07:12 PM

How interesting that I was just wondering that this morning.

I go back and forth on this one. At first it seems very straight-forward, it's the law, right?

But then I think of the one strip of highway I take to work where everyone drives a minimum of 15 miles over the speedlimit, and it's downright dangerous to do otherwise. And what about one-lane roads where you annoy the pebbles out of everyone stuck behind you?

But is the real issue wanting to please my neighbor or my own impatience?

Anyway, it just occured to me that if Christ was sitting in my passenger seat, I'd be driving VERY differently. So I guess that answers my question. :blush:

sammipher

20th March 2004, 12:34 AM

I'm not sure...if it is this would be a sin I am guilty of alot...though after reading alot of responses to this poll I have to agree with some...that if it is a law and you break it then it is a sin....I will def. rethink now when I start to speed.

Prodigal Sun

20th March 2004, 08:04 AM

Whenever I'm facing a dilemma that I'm not really sure if whether it's a sin or not I ask me this: What would Jesus do in this particular case?
I believe that Jesus wouldn't drive too fast, since that increases the chance for accidents, the risk of hurting others.

It's very hard to avoid speeding though....

insideout

20th March 2004, 09:29 PM

it's a half sin

tasherrill22

26th March 2004, 09:42 PM

If you break a human law that does not conflict with God's laws, then it's a sin. So yes speeding is a sin.

Caissie

26th March 2004, 10:10 PM

I disagree with Tasherrill22. You may break a human law as long as it is not against God's laws.

But...on the question: "is speeding a sin". Yes, but not because it breaks human laws, but because you are God's property and you are not allowed to do with it as you please. You must keep god's property fully opperational and opperating.

I am not saying that if you drive 65 in a 55 you are speeding. Only when you are going faster than a safe speed. (that limit is for God to know and for you (with help from the Holy Spirit) to try and figure out.)

Same logic will apply with the question "is smoking a sin", or "is doing drugs a sin".

superbear02

27th March 2004, 05:51 PM

we are supposed to obey the government set up by God...therefore speeding is a sin...all sins are the same in God's eyes...theres no such thing as a BIG sin and a LITTLE sin...

Glorianna

30th March 2004, 04:08 AM

We must obey the law. Speeding limits are the law. Therefore, we are sinning when we don't obey the speed limits.

mle

11th April 2004, 12:54 AM

yes

brotherChristian

11th April 2004, 03:20 PM

I'm a cop, so I don't speed ;) . But as a professional I can tell you that speeding is not considered a criminal offense. It is a traffic violation. Traffic rule and regs are more of a code than actual law. Not paying your speeding ticket? Now that would be a crime. 'Course I always say to my troops, "let he who is without traffic infractions write the first ticket!" :holy:

Caedmon

11th April 2004, 04:28 PM

I think that it's a sin if you put yourself or others in danger.

Personally, I don't speed because I don't want a ticket or an accident. I set my cruise control right on the limit. It irritates other drivers a little bit, but it's my right, and at least I'm safe and ticket-free.

Caedmon

11th April 2004, 04:37 PM

BTW, brotherChristian... Wie geht's? ;)

Tangnefedd

11th April 2004, 05:00 PM

I don't think speeding is one of the 'thou shalt nots', LOL!!!! Most of us exceed the speed limit don't we?

brotherChristian

11th April 2004, 06:54 PM

BTW, brotherChristian... Wie geht's? ;)

Gesegnet, und dir? Mein Deutch is ganz schlecht (Ich komme aus America, aber meine Frau ist aus Bayern.) My main complaint is that I don't get American commercials in Germany. Ironic. (And slightly moronic.)

jeshohaia

14th April 2004, 03:58 PM

If you speed you break a law of the land which is reasonable and does not affront your faith and Will of G-D. So it is a sin!

Messenger30

14th April 2004, 04:01 PM

dido what jeshohaia said....yes it is a sin

Love and God bless,
Messenger

Caedmon

15th April 2004, 12:12 AM

Gesegnet, und dir? Mein Deutch is ganz schlecht (Ich komme aus America, aber meine Frau ist aus Bayern.) My main complaint is that I don't get American commercials in Germany. Ironic. (And slightly moronic.)Eigentlich bin ich sehr muede. (Deutsch ist mein Nebenfach. ;) )

Big C

15th April 2004, 10:13 AM

Yes, I believe speeding is a sin...unless you were unaware of the speed limit (LOL)...like Paul said "if not for the law I wouldn't know it was sin". And considering I just got a speeding ticket two sundays ago on my way to church...proves I'm still a sinner...I need JESUS.

beatarmy2

15th April 2004, 11:20 AM

A sin is a sin, no matter how you want to put it.

Wolflily

15th April 2004, 12:39 PM

I would have to agree it's a sin although I break the limit every single day on the highways. (Not in the neighborhoods) I drive the same highway through two states coming and going to work and there is a 10 mile speed difference as soon as you cross the line. Does anyone slow down? No way! Our average speed around here is approximately 15 mph over the highest posted speed limit and anyone actually driving the speed limit is passed as if they were at a standstill! It's crazy but it's true.

Caedmon

15th April 2004, 06:40 PM

Our average speed around here is approximately 15 mph over the highest posted speed limit and anyone actually driving the speed limit is passed as if they were at a standstill! It's crazy but it's true.I'll wave as you rip around me. :wave:... ^_^

Unique

11th May 2004, 08:29 PM

It is a sin and there are no little sins. To God they are all the same.

Smi1eWarrior

12th May 2004, 08:32 AM

jesus tells us to follow the alw. if we break the law, we are sinning
Mara :)

rubberduckie

24th May 2004, 11:25 PM

yes, I agree Mara. I know many Christians break this law. (and yeah we all sin). But just cause everyone does it does not make it anything less than a sin. We know the consequences for speeding, and there's no excuse.

TheMainException

16th June 2004, 03:17 PM

If you do not follow the laws of the land, it is a sin. All sins are equal, none is bigger or smaller than another. If you speed, you murder. They are the same.

PaladinGirl

28th June 2004, 12:57 AM

Ok, maybe speeding is a sin if it's against the law. But let's face it, who actually ever goes 20mph down mainstreet??? I mean really!

Bradford

28th June 2004, 01:04 AM

Ok, maybe speeding is a sin if it's against the law. But let's face it, who actually ever goes 20mph down mainstreet??? I mean really!
Have you ever tried it? It's very hard to keep a car going THAT slow... and, yes, I tend to view them as mere suggestions. There's also another law on the books that you have to keep up with the flow of traffic- so which takes precedence?

feo

28th June 2004, 01:09 AM

Just Because Something is a Law; does Not Mean That by Following it- we Will Keep us FROM Sinning. There Are many useless Laws STILL in Affect, That People DONT Follow... Are They Going AGAINST What God Commands Them? I'm Not Sure. When you Stop- do You Make Sure You Can See ALL The White Lines in The intersection? i Bet 99% of You Guys Dont. so Therefore, you're Disobaying God? hmm... Quite Honestly, i Dont Think God Could Care Less...

You GOTTA Keep up With Traffic, its Part of Life: and if you DONT Keep up With Traffic (going 5 - 10 mph over) Then You Will be Disrupting The Flow of Cars. causing OTHER people to be Tempted with Road Rage, being Late For Work, and other Ways of Making Your Peers "fall" is Equally a Sin.

i Mean c'mon: if You're Running Late to Church (hey it happens) God Wouldnt Want to See You Late, Would he? ;)

USincognito

28th June 2004, 04:52 AM

I don't believe in sin per se, but is it wrong to put the lives of your fellow citizens at risk just because you're in a hurry? Yes.

Speed kills isn't just an anti-drug message.

Turkwoyz

28th June 2004, 07:04 AM

Speeding itself is not a sin, but disobaying the authoritys is.

CZzyzx41

28th June 2004, 09:59 AM

I would say speeding could be a transgression but I wouldn't say it's a sin.

PaladinGirl

28th June 2004, 06:39 PM

Have you ever tried it? It's very hard to keep a car going THAT slow... and, yes, I tend to view them as mere suggestions. There's also another law on the books that you have to keep up with the flow of traffic- so which takes precedence?
Yeah, I also tend to view them as mere suggestions. I remember when I was in drivers ed around 4 or 5 years back, my teacher told me that as a general rule you won't get pulled over if you're only going 5mph over the speed limit. Of course, here in my county, you can go as much as 10mph over the speed limit without getting pulled over. I won't dare go 15mph over the speed limit though cause that's wreckless driving which you can get your license taken away for. I was pulled over for driving 75 in a 55 and thank God the officer was kind enough to lower the speed on the ticket t