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edpobre
4th December 2001, 02:40 AM
Friends,
In another post, ZoneChaos said that God does NOT have a Father.
How many among you agree with Zone? Please show scripture to support your answer.
LouisBooth
4th December 2001, 02:47 AM
It depends on your definiation of father...please give one and I will then vote. If you mean as in he contributed half the chromosomes..then no God does not have a father and neither did Jesus. If you mean in the Jewish culture way in that a passed on authority..then yes, Jesus who was God had a father who was also God.
Archieve
4th December 2001, 03:06 AM
LouisBooth Wrote:
It depends on your definiation of father...please give one and I will then vote.
Do you have a father LouisBooth or does that depends on my definition of father as well? Why don't you share the definition to Father.
If you mean as in he contributed half the chromosomes..then no God does not have a father and neither did Jesus.
Louis, Ed knows that God is Jesus Father. Ed, wasn't talking about how a man becomes a Father. Leave the sperm out of this.
If you mean in the Jewish culture way in that a passed on authority..then yes, Jesus who was God had a father who was also God.
Louis, would you say that George Foreman V, is George Foreman the Father?
BlalronResurrected
4th December 2001, 03:07 AM
The Son has always existed, so has the Father. Father and Son are titles, something you don't seem to understand. They exist as Father and Son within the trinity, and not outside of it.
Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Notice how this verse refers to both the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer as God. Seems like God can fill more than one role at a time and still be God. Interesting, isn't it?
Rev 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
Rev 1:18 I [am] he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
Notice that this is Jesus speaking and referring to himself as the first and the last. Same as God did in Isaiah 44:6. Fascinating, isn't it?
LouisBooth
4th December 2001, 03:17 AM
"Do you have a father LouisBooth or does that depends on my definition of father as well? Why don't you share the definition to Father. "
yes, in terms of I have someone that donated one half of my chromosomes..yes I have a father. What def are you using?
"Leave the sperm out of this. "
Why? thats' exactly what ya'll think the title means? See how absurd that is. Now read in that other thread what it really means..I wrote it all out for you. Check psalms 2 for more info.
"Louis, would you say that George Foreman V, is George Foreman the Father? "
If you mean by father he donated half of the chromosomes..yes. If you mean in the Jewish cultureal way as in the title christ has as Son of God, then maybe not.
Archieve
4th December 2001, 03:23 AM
Jesus is God's Son.
LouisBooth
4th December 2001, 03:25 AM
yes, if you mean that he has the same authority as God and in the context of the Jewish culture..then yes...because he is God. You're right. If you mean that it has anything to do with heridity, then no, you're wrong.
BlalronResurrected
4th December 2001, 03:33 AM
John 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
ZoneChaos
4th December 2001, 03:39 AM
God doe snot have a Father, because nothing was before God.
Archieve
4th December 2001, 03:40 AM
God is my Father. Does that mean, I am God?
ZoneChaos
4th December 2001, 03:42 AM
God is my Father. Does that mean, I am God?
No.
Archieve
4th December 2001, 12:54 PM
ZoneChaos Wrote:
No.
Why not?
BlalronResurrected
4th December 2001, 01:34 PM
Read LouisBooth's above post about the significance of the title in jewish culture.
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