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SharonL
26th November 2005, 08:30 PM
How would you handle this?

My stepson is married to a really strange gal. Very secretive - been 7 years and we know nothing about her.

She first dressed all in black - she believes in reincarnation and that is all I know about her belief.

For the past 2 weeks the Holy Spirit has been telling me something is wrong about her. I prayed and ask the Lord to show me what it is.

Well they came over for Thanksgiving - We live in a subdivision called Cherokee Trails - her first comment when she came in the door was - "this is so cool - when I woke up this morning there was an indian in full dress standing by my bed" - I guess he was giving me the ok to come.

I was shocked, but had a housefull of company so it was not the time to do anything.

I know this was a familiar spirit - but just do not know how to handle it. I've dealt with people with familiar spirits in the past and tried to explain it to them and they just laughed at me - the Lord just drew the line for me and said move on.

I have not approached this at all with her - I know she was raised by a cult - she and her 2 children. I ask her if she believed in God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit - but she only answered yes and did not expand on it - she is very hard to talk to - she wants you to know nothing about her.

Any ideas?

Prophet01
26th November 2005, 09:00 PM
love her, she says she believes in Christ, that is all you need know for now. minister to this girl be a light unto her, not by a lecture or by preaching, you have come into contact with this girl you so you can show her the love christ has for her in her present state. Be unto her a doctor, heal her sickness and like a doctor you must have the respect and trust of your patient, she needs to know you mean her no harm and have only her best interests at heart before you can give a diagnosis of her illness and prescribe the true medicine.

ForumGuy
26th November 2005, 09:07 PM
Try to get her to open up about her belifs. Ask her questions like "how do you pray?" "Where do you go on sunday?" , and such.
Also watch for any changes in your stepson. If you see anything adverse, you may wish to step in

SharonL
26th November 2005, 09:21 PM
love her, she says she believes in Christ, that is all you need know for now. minister to this girl be a light unto her, not by a lecture or by preaching, you have come into contact with this girl you so you can show her the love christ has for her in her present state. Be unto her a doctor, heal her sickness and like a doctor you must have the respect and trust of your patient, she needs to know you mean her no harm and have only her best interests at heart before you can give a diagnosis of her illness and prescribe the true medicine.

Great advice - we have shown her respect and love for 7 years now and would never be disrespectful of her. She is a pleasant person and very nice. I believe she has been hurt very badly through her life.

When you don't know much about a person it is hard to help them. I know when I visit their house I feel the need to bind - what I do not know - so I cover a whole range of things.

She does not drive because she won't have her picture made - I ask her if it was a religious thing or just didn't like to have her picture made - she said it was religious.

She won't fly because she has to have a picture ID.

We are very respectful to my step-son and to her also. She does call me to pray for her when she was very sick because she said I seem to have a direct line. I see no disrespect to God from her.

SharonL
26th November 2005, 09:24 PM
Try to get her to open up about her belifs. Ask her questions like "how do you pray?" "Where do you go on sunday?" , and such.
Also watch for any changes in your stepson. If you see anything adverse, you may wish to step in

My stepson seems to be ok - he was raised a Christian and knows about the love of God - he never speaks bad of her.

LittlePinky82
26th November 2005, 10:00 PM
Very interesting. Could she be pagan or wiccan? But with the picture ID thing is weird because I've never known any pagan or wiccan who didn't not have their picture taken. *shrug* Strange. What do you mean by familiar spirits? That you've (orignial poster) known them before? Maybe she has been hurt but I wouldn't try prying too much though since people don't really like that too much. Try though just being friends more. Maybe she'll open up. *shrug* Good luck though.

Great advice - we have shown her respect and love for 7 years now and would never be disrespectful of her. She is a pleasant person and very nice. I believe she has been hurt very badly through her life.

When you don't know much about a person it is hard to help them. I know when I visit their house I feel the need to bind - what I do not know - so I cover a whole range of things.

She does not drive because she won't have her picture made - I ask her if it was a religious thing or just didn't like to have her picture made - she said it was religious.

She won't fly because she has to have a picture ID.

We are very respectful to my step-son and to her also. She does call me to pray for her when she was very sick because she said I seem to have a direct line. I see no disrespect to God from her.

SharonL
26th November 2005, 10:35 PM
Very interesting. Could she be pagan or wiccan? But with the picture ID thing is weird because I've never known any pagan or wiccan who didn't not have their picture taken. *shrug* Strange. What do you mean by familiar spirits? That you've (orignial poster) known them before? Maybe she has been hurt but I wouldn't try prying too much though since people don't really like that too much. Try though just being friends more. Maybe she'll open up. *shrug* Good luck though.

A familiar spirit is an evil spirit - you can read all about it here - it is something every Christian should know about - they are more common than you would imagine.

http://home.mchsi.com/%7Eftio/warfare-familiar-spirits.htm

Thank you for your great advice - I had wondered about Wiccan - but I don't really know anything about them - I will do some research.

Many Blessings.

Prophet01
26th November 2005, 11:18 PM
When you don't know much about a person it is hard to help them. I know when I visit their house I feel the need to bind - what I do not know - so I cover a whole range of things.

just look out for her, be her friend!

She does not drive because she won't have her picture made - I ask her if it was a religious thing or just didn't like to have her picture made - she said it was religious.

She won't fly because she has to have a picture ID .

Very interesting. Could she be pagan or wiccan? But with the picture ID thing is weird


This is strange behaviour and could be generated by a fear of the anti christ by some warpped christian cult or or even eaiser just wrapped up in the general holobalue about the end of times prophecy - if so she needs to be reminded that we have been granted a spirit of strengh not fear, that the holy spirit will take away her fear of the enemy however it could be harder than that for you - she could be a member of a strange cult or even worse a member of a false religion, if she is, it is better to make yourself an example than to make an example of her, if you know what i mean.

We are very respectful to my step-son and to her also. She does call me to pray for her when she was very sick because she said I seem to have a direct line. I see no disrespect to God from her.

She seems a very spiritual kind of person, be an example to her, be her role model

josiahoftenn
26th November 2005, 11:29 PM
This is one of my fascinations is other religions.I do believe in ghosts.Hmm this is very odd though she believes in christ, and because of her religion she wont take picutres.All I can think of is ask her.I know vampires don't get there picture taken lol yes a little inappropriate for a joke sorry.She believes in re-incarnation to hmm that wouldn't be a wiccan maybe not a new ager, perhaps she's a druid?

TruthSetsYouFree
26th November 2005, 11:38 PM
Bind those demons!!! Binding is like spiritual handcuffing. It ties up the enemy so you can directly and effectively minister to them without having them continually held back by the enemy interfering. I'll bet if you bound those spirits before talking with her, she would be a LOT easier to open up and talk with. :angel: Right now, I believe the demons are what are causing her to hold back and not talk much about her beliefs.

I posted a testimony not too long ago on the power of binding demon spirits over in the deliverance forum: http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=19101560#post19101560 (See post #14)

You can learn more about the binding of demon spirits here: http://www.greatbiblestudy.com/binding_loosing.php

I hope this helps! The site above has a lot of practical information on deliverances too. :)

Any questions, let me know!

Bobby

Prophet01
26th November 2005, 11:42 PM
well what ever is wrong with her, put your faith in the lord that he will help her, as for your part just carry out your duties to her as a servant of christ and in doing you shall be her light

TruthSetsYouFree
26th November 2005, 11:47 PM
I don't know if I should say this (because I'm not totally sure)... but I *think* Satanists are usually the ones wearing black clothes all the time. I don't know if they are the only ones, but I know it isn't a good sign. :(

SharonL
26th November 2005, 11:49 PM
Bind those demons!!! Binding is like spiritual handcuffing. It ties up the enemy so you can directly and effectively minister to them without having them continually held back by the enemy interfering. I'll bet if you bound those spirits before talking with her, she would be a LOT easier to open up and talk with. :angel: Right now, I believe the demons are what are causing her to hold back and not talk much about her beliefs.

I posted a testimony not too long ago on the power of binding demon spirits over in the deliverance forum: http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=19101560#post19101560 (See post #14)

You can learn more about the binding of demon spirits here: http://www.greatbiblestudy.com/binding_loosing.php

I hope this helps! The site above has a lot of practical information on deliverances too. :)

Any questions, let me know!

Bobby

Thanks so much Bobby - I'll look up those links - I need to learn more about binding - I bind as much as I know - I knew something was wrong when I went to their house and felt the need to bind. I just didn't know why.

I took care of a friend for 8 months last year. A bunch of us took turns spending the night to take care of her - I always felt the need to bind when there - again - didn't know what.

Later the demons started manifesting - she had 3 spirits and one manifested during the night as her sister which hated her - I tried to talk to her but she just laughed at me and the Lord just drew the line and said shake the dust off and move on. I left and never looked back.

Thanks for the information.

TruthSetsYouFree
26th November 2005, 11:53 PM
Thanks so much Bobby - I'll look up those links - I need to learn more about binding - I bind as much as I know - I knew something was wrong when I went to their house and felt the need to bind. I just didn't know why.

I took care of a friend for 8 months last year. A bunch of us took turns spending the night to take care of her - I always felt the need to bind when there - again - didn't know what.

Later the demons started manifesting - she had 3 spirits and one manifested during the night as her sister which hated her - I tried to talk to her but she just laughed at me and the Lord just drew the line and said shake the dust off and move on. I left and never looked back.

Thanks for the information.

You are most welcome! You have authority over all powers of the enemy... binding is simply one of the ways which you exercise your authority!

Peace and blessings! :wave:

Prophet01
26th November 2005, 11:58 PM
"Later the demons started manifesting - she had 3 spirits and one manifested during the night as her sister which hated her - I tried to talk to her but she just laughed at me and the Lord just drew the line and said shake the dust off and move on.."


did you try to cast out the demon?

SharonL
27th November 2005, 12:28 AM
"Later the demons started manifesting - she had 3 spirits and one manifested during the night as her sister which hated her - I tried to talk to her but she just laughed at me and the Lord just drew the line and said shake the dust off and move on.."


did you try to cast out the demon?

I was not there it happened in the middle of the night when someone else was staying the night with her. When she told me about it - I told her that was not your sister - that was a familiar spirit - she in no way would even consider it. At that time I did not know anything about deliverance and was not equipped to deal with it knowledge wise. But it was this conversation that she laughed at me and the Lord said dust off your feet and move on. Yes, I wish I had known what to do, but I did not - but that is what sent me on the road for research and get some knowledge of familiar spirits.

Theophorus
27th November 2005, 01:45 AM
I was not there it happened in the middle of the night when someone else was staying the night with her. When she told me about it - I told her that was not your sister - that was a familiar spirit - she in no way would even consider it. At that time I did not know anything about deliverance and was not equipped to deal with it knowledge wise. But it was this conversation that she laughed at me and the Lord said dust off your feet and move on. Yes, I wish I had known what to do, but I did not - but that is what sent me on the road for research and get some knowledge of familiar spirits.


You were protected. If you have no knowlegde of this type of thing, then do not personally interfere.

LittlePinky82
27th November 2005, 03:31 AM
That doesn't really mean anything. I had a friend back in high school who wore a lot of black and she never talked about religion so I don't know if she was religious or not. I sometimes like to wear black because I just enjoy the color. I wear a lot of earth colors personally and every once in a while will wear pink or something real feminine. It just depends on my mood.

I don't know if I should say this (because I'm not totally sure)... but I *think* Satanists are usually the ones wearing black clothes all the time. I don't know if they are the only ones, but I know it isn't a good sign. :(

LittlePinky82
27th November 2005, 03:36 AM
I don't think a familiar spirit is just an evil spirit. A familiar is usually a spirit who works with you on your witchcraft such as how a lot of witches have some sort of animal that works with them (such as a cat which is the most popular familiar). There are evil spirits of all sorts of levels. Not just familiars. But if you do sense an evil spirit is around just pray for them to be gone or ask God to send you a prayer to make them leave. In the past I have dealth with such spirits and you don't want them around for long. Just let them know who is boss and they don't belong there and tell them to go home. Hopefully that'll work. If not and the person who owns the house is uncomfortable and such see if they can get someone to come and sage the house. If they don't know anybody check out a New Age store or even go to a Catholic priest if they'd be comfortable with that.

A familiar spirit is an evil spirit - you can read all about it here - it is something every Christian should know about - they are more common than you would imagine.

http://home.mchsi.com/%7Eftio/warfare-familiar-spirits.htm

Thank you for your great advice - I had wondered about Wiccan - but I don't really know anything about them - I will do some research.

Many Blessings.

LittlePinky82
27th November 2005, 03:40 AM
I don't think it's the sister either. Only you or the other person would know for sure since you are actually there. Remember that spirits can transform into other images as well which is why you have to becareful of communicating with them. The negative one's will do anything to trick you into listening to them. They feed off the negative energy they draw from you.

I was not there it happened in the middle of the night when someone else was staying the night with her. When she told me about it - I told her that was not your sister - that was a familiar spirit - she in no way would even consider it. At that time I did not know anything about deliverance and was not equipped to deal with it knowledge wise. But it was this conversation that she laughed at me and the Lord said dust off your feet and move on. Yes, I wish I had known what to do, but I did not - but that is what sent me on the road for research and get some knowledge of familiar spirits.

Everlastinglife
27th November 2005, 10:15 AM
Ask God, not just to sound repetitive, He truly will help you deal with this family member. In the most correct fashion. James 1:5, "If you want to know what God wants you to do, ask Him, and He will gladly tell you, for He is always ready to give a bountiful supply of wisdom to all who ask Him; He will not resent it." Have patience however, she is family and may need your kindness and example. Ephesians 4:2, "Be humble and gentle. Be patient with each other, making allowance for each other's faults because of your love." We all look and act different, lets listen to the word when dealing in judgement of others. Isaiah 11:3-5, "His delight will be obedience to the Lord. He will not judge by appearance, false evidence, or hearsay, but will defend the poor and the exploited. He will rule against the wicked who oppress them. For He will be clothed with fairness and with truth."

SharonL
27th November 2005, 02:19 PM
Bind those demons!!! Binding is like spiritual handcuffing. It ties up the enemy so you can directly and effectively minister to them without having them continually held back by the enemy interfering. I'll bet if you bound those spirits before talking with her, she would be a LOT easier to open up and talk with. :angel: Right now, I believe the demons are what are causing her to hold back and not talk much about her beliefs.

I posted a testimony not too long ago on the power of binding demon spirits over in the deliverance forum: http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=19101560#post19101560 (See post #14)

You can learn more about the binding of demon spirits here: http://www.greatbiblestudy.com/binding_loosing.php

I hope this helps! The site above has a lot of practical information on deliverances too. :)

Any questions, let me know!

Bobby

Great advice - I do that because at this point that is all I know to do, but I'm learning. I read your links and find them very informative. I feel that God is putting on my heart to deal with this and showing me what I need to do - little scarey, but I just want to make sure I don't show her anything that would leave the door open for the return of demons. But God will show me when I am ready. I know that He will not let me lead her in the wrong direction. It's not me anyway.

ForumGuy
27th November 2005, 02:53 PM
Great advice - I do that because at this point that is all I know to do, but I'm learning. I read your links and find them very informative. I feel that God is putting on my heart to deal with this and showing me what I need to do - little scarey, but I just want to make sure I don't show her anything that would leave the door open for the return of demons. But God will show me when I am ready. I know that He will not let me lead her in the wrong direction. It's not me anyway.

If the time comes, and you don't think you know, just call on God and let him do it. The greatest excorist is powerless on their own, its all about God:liturgy:

Theophorus
27th November 2005, 06:16 PM
If you think that something is realy wrong, I would do some very extensive research. There are certain signs that would help you asses the situation better. Just because a person looks Goth, or is a little strange means anything. What is alarming is the manifestation you saw. I would be concerned about your self, as well as her and your son.

LittlePinky82
28th November 2005, 12:48 AM
Yes. Education is the key for when you go into something like that. If you have no idea what you're doing you could get yourself into a lot of trouble, so I would definietly research a lot and ask a lot of advice from people who are more knowledgable. I hope everything works out.

If you think that something is realy wrong, I would do some very extensive research. There are certain signs that would help you asses the situation better. Just because a person looks Goth, or is a little strange means anything. What is alarming is the manifestation you saw. I would be concerned about your self, as well as her and your son.