Christian Sarcasm...how great it is!

[Sword-In-Hand]

Ok, I know immediately that the title of my post is sarcastic:thumbsup: .

But is it me, or is there an over abundance of Christians being rudely sarcastic in the world today? I mean I just got executed by bullets of sarcasm for posting that God has never lost a battle.

Is this developing trait befitting a child of the Lord or am I just over reacting?

[aReformedPatriot]

Ok, I know immediately that the title of my post is sarcastic:thumbsup: .

But is it me, or is there an over abundance of Christians being rudely sarcastic in the world today? I mean I just got executed by bullets of sarcasm for posting that God has never lost a battle.

Is this developing trait befitting a child of the Lord or am I just over reacting?

Yes, I believe it is a terrible trait. When we don't get what we want we belittle someone. Sarcasm is rude. I like how you described it as "bullets," because that is exactly what those words are.

Psa 140:3 They make their tongue sharp as a serpent's, and under their lips is the venom of asps. Selah.

[£amb]

Ok, I know immediately that the title of my post is sarcastic:thumbsup: .

But is it me, or is there an over abundance of Christians being rudely sarcastic in the world today? I mean I just got executed by bullets of sarcasm for posting that God has never lost a battle.

Is this developing trait befitting a child of the Lord or am I just over reacting?

The sarcasm that I read on this forum has the attitude of "hey, you're just stupid" or "You surely can't know more than I do". I think it's absolutely rude and childish. Yes, there is a time for it when you and the person are joking around and it's received as joking. But not when someone is giving a sincere answer or question. There's a thread going on right now that is between believers and the attitude, sarcasm and pride could drown a person.

[stone]

yesterday, while haveing a debate\chat with an atheist, i said i would be right back because i had an uncontrollable urge for a banana, would that be rude? The atheist said i was stupid and had used sarcasm as well, so i naturally used it myself. Maybe this is what folks are doing, useing sarcasm to sarcasm?

[Gentle]

No, it's not even good manners so again a strange way to approach God.
It's such a simple thing.
Don't let it get to you, it will always be there or other forms of ignorance with humans. It was just an example of and the idea is not to let it bother you I guess. it seems more human error than malice. I don't know why all can't just be nice before anything else and sarcasm is just unappealing. Personally I think most underrate Ego, while they see it's dangers they fail to see just how close it is...but I ramble. its fun :)
God bless
Andrew

[ArchangelGabriel]

it depends on how you use it
if deep seatedly you have imoral reasons to use it then you prob. have this world def.


A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.

A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.
now if your using it to both strengthen a point and to expose a flaw then i think its ok jsut make sure that from the other persons standards you dont go to far

[ArchangelGabriel]

No, it's not even good manners so again a strange way to approach God.
It's such a simple thing.
Don't let it get to you, it will always be there or other forms of ignorance with humans. It was just an example of and the idea is not to let it bother you I guess. it seems more human error than malice. I don't know why all can't just be nice before anything else and sarcasm is just unappealing. Personally I think most underrate Ego, while they see it's dangers they fail to see just how close it is...but I ramble. its fun :)
God bless
Andrew

well Jesus used sarcasm so i guess there is a way to use it where its not human error

[Gentle]

yea I shouldn't have been so stuck on the symbol of the word
I just meant in general b/c the person seemed to have had a negative experience. I know it literally has a point to it, I just meant it uses.
yea but Jesus knew what he was doing even if he used anger; he had that divine knowledge from the Father I don't possess.
btw I'm not debating you or challenging you I really have no idea :) just talking away

love
Andrew

[aReformedPatriot]

it depends on how you use it
if deep seatedly you have imoral reasons to use it then you prob. have this world def.


A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.
now if your using it to both strengthen a point and to expose a flaw then i think its ok jsut make sure that from the other persons standards you dont go to far


Solid Post! I would venture to say that most people use sarcasm using the definitions that you have used. At least, thats the overall testimony of CF in the two years that I have been here.

[ArchangelGabriel]

yea I shouldn't have been so stuck on the symbol of the word
I just meant in general b/c the person seemed to have had a negative experience. I know it literally has a point to it, I just meant it uses.
yea but Jesus knew what he was doing even if he used anger; he had that divine knowledge from the Father I don't possess.
btw I'm not debating you or challenging you I really have no idea :) just talking away

love
Andrew

oh (sounds like my Scottish swords intimidateing you lol j/p) i wasnt really trying to prove you wrong just pointing that out , no particular reason
-i agree with you, its like i said in a diff. thread theres a fine line betweentough love and hate

[RED that's ME]

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Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.

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But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.Colossians 3:8

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray, for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; Matthew 5:44

Another verse God uses is to remind me that he can take care of the situation better than I ever could. http://www.christianguitar.org/forums/images/smilies/yep.gif
Romans 12:17-21 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but [rather] give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance [is] mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
Ephesians 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

Romans 12:10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;

Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight,
O Lord, my strength, and my redeemer. Psalms 19:14


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[MatthewDiscipleofGod]

1 Kings 18:27 And so it was, at noon, that Elijah mocked them and said, "Cry aloud, for he is a god; either he is meditating, or he is busy, or he is on a journey, or perhaps he is sleeping and must be awakened."

Any thoughts on this?

[£amb]

1 Kings 18:27 And so it was, at noon, that Elijah mocked them and said, "Cry aloud, for he is a god; either he is meditating, or he is busy, or he is on a journey, or perhaps he is sleeping and must be awakened."

Any thoughts on this?

Elijah could not resist the opportunity to mock the prophets of Baal for their evidently foolish faith. These men were not believers of God, but in Baal. But should we use this same technique for believers of God? In 2 Tim. 4:2 it tells us "Preach the Word, be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction". If another believer gives false ideas or does take God's word and twists it, then yes, we are to use God's word to help correct, rubuke and encourage this person. As the verse continues to say...with great patience. To me, great patience, means to watch the tone and do it in a loving manner.

Also, me being a woman...I like to follow this proverb about a noble wife/woman...Proverb 31:26 "She speaks with wisdom, and faithful instruction is on her tongue." :) I don't always heed this, but it's a great reminder to watch my mouth.

[aReformedPatriot]

1 Kings 18:27 And so it was, at noon, that Elijah mocked them and said, "Cry aloud, for he is a god; either he is meditating, or he is busy, or he is on a journey, or perhaps he is sleeping and must be awakened."

Any thoughts on this?

My immediate, half concious thought was one of sarcasm. When you are one of the greatest prophets of Yahweh, then I suppose I wouldn't argue with you. lol. I am a hypocrite, what can I say. :sorry::yawn:

I would love to see what others have to say, but I do not think that sarcasm is the Christian mold. The facets of sarcasm make it a dangerous tool to be used with much caution, in the right circumstance, in my mind anyways.

Back to my nap. Perhaps there will be more thoughts tommorow. :sleep:

[MatthewDiscipleofGod]

Thanks for responding to my post. Elijah's actions and how it should reflect in us if at all has always made me think. I never really discussed it with others and thought this was a great opportunity.

[MatthewDiscipleofGod]

Thanks for responding to my post. Elijah's actions and how it should reflect in us if at all has always made me think. I never really discussed it with others and thought this was a great opportunity.

[Imblessed]

1 Kings 18:27 And so it was, at noon, that Elijah mocked them and said, "Cry aloud, for he is a god; either he is meditating, or he is busy, or he is on a journey, or perhaps he is sleeping and must be awakened."

Any thoughts on this?

the question is this, was it appropriate for Elijah to say that? God used fallible men to do great things for Him--and I'd venture to guess that Elijah was feeling a wee bit superior at the time and just couldn't resist making a bit of fun at the prophets of Baal---but that doesn't mean that it's ok to do that. And I don't think that it's ok for us use that sort of sarcasm on our fellow christians.

I have to admit, I'm can be quite sarcastic when I get frustrated or angry--and I know it's wrong, I know that I use sarcasm as a crutch, a way to get out my feelings without directly confronting the issue---but I try to reign it in, and with the help of God, I'm better now than I was.

[Sword-In-Hand]

Wasn't Elijah suicidal? :P

[SteelDisciple]

Yes, I believe it is a terrible trait. When we don't get what we want we belittle someone. Sarcasm is rude. I like how you described it as "bullets," because that is exactly what those words are.

Psa 140:3 They make their tongue sharp as a serpent's, and under their lips is the venom of asps. Selah.


Depends on the sarcasm. Heck, i'm sarcastic all the time. No really. I am. :) But it's more witty sarcasm...I don't like MEAN sarcasm.

Personally..I think many Christians are TO NICE. Nice is good...but then there are the types that you could bend them backwards and their spines wouldn't even crackle. They are so utterly meek to the point they are just liquid...no substance.

[JPPT1974]

Just as long as it doesn't offend anybody, I can be pretty sarcastic myself.
Not trying to be mean though. But in a good kind of way.

[ChristianWife]

I agree about the sarcasm. I can see if you are trying to get a point across, but you can do it with love holding firm with your beliefs, without attacking another person. JMO

[Flynmonkie]

Thanks for responding to my post. Elijah's actions and how it should reflect in us if at all has always made me think. I never really discussed it with others and thought this was a great opportunity.
I believe he did this to make them "think". There is a time and a place for everything (a season) As many times as I see sarcasm, that is not normally the way it is used around here. I have found myself doing this from time to time. Think people -- Think! It is not to hurt ones "feelers" it is to wake them up to what they are saying or thinking or don't see coming.

Do people honestly believe that God says we should never be angry? Every time this subject comes up, I hear “fruits of the Spirit”. I have wanted for a long time for someone to start a thread on comparison of all the other God given emotions compared to that verse with others and how Christians are supposed to act. Yes, we will get angry, yes we will get mad. These are God Given emotions.IMHO

[tamtam92]

Irony is not always sarcasm. I might sometimes say sth rude, but that would be to awaken the person i speak to about a serious subject.
To be loving is not to be always smooth-tongued.

[53Isaiah]

This is a great topic. Another challenge I have is not coming across as arrogant when I am simply highly educated and confident in the LORD. I often consider the following:

1Pe 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

I pray that we’d all exhibit the character of Christ in our conversation. :amen: