Morning and Evening Prayer

[lonnienord]

do any of you pray morning and evening prayer from the prayer book daily? I lived in a Episcopal Rectory for about a year; discerning weather GOD wanted me to be a Episcopal Priest. During that time i prayed Morning and Evening Prayer daily with the priests. We started each day with a better translation of Psalm 95 than this but this one is good also. It is the New Living Translation:


Psalm 95



1
Come, let us sing to the LORD!
Let us give a joyous shout to the rock of our salvation!

2
Let us come before him with thanksgiving.
Let us sing him psalms of praise.

3
For the LORD is a great God,
the great King above all gods.

4
He owns the depths of the earth,
and even the mightiest mountains are his.

5
The sea belongs to him, for he made it.
His hands formed the dry land, too.

6
Come, let us worship and bow down.
Let us kneel before the LORD our maker,


7 for he is our God.
We are the people he watches over,
the sheep under his care.
Oh, that you would listen to his voice today!

8
The LORD says, "Don't harden your hearts as Israel did at Meribah,
as they did at Massah in the wilderness.

9
For there your ancestors tried my patience;
they courted my wrath though they had seen my many miracles.

10
For forty years I was angry with them, and I said,
`They are a people whose hearts turn away from me.
They refuse to do what I tell them.' 11
So in my anger I made a vow:
`They will never enter my place of rest.' "

[gtsecc]

I lead Evening Prayer every Thursday - at least.
Almost every Saturday I go to Vespers with an OCA (Eastern Orthodox) Parish in town.

[AngCath]

yup and Compline too

[DarthDigger]

My Granddad does it Every morning, at midday and in the evening.

[Naomi4Christ]

Nope

[gtsecc]

Nope
Why not?

[Naomi4Christ]

To busy with all those spirit led prayers (can't remember the jargon for it now, but you used the word the other day)

[gtsecc]

To busy with all those spirit led prayers (can't remember the jargon for it now, but you used the word the other day)
Check the Bible, specifically the Book of Acts to see if they are keeping the daily Cycle of Prayer, praying the psalms as the BCP has laid out, or doing some sort of spirit led prayer.

[Naomi4Christ]

I'm sure I am destined to go straight to hell, tut tut

[higgs2]

I'm calling Supernanny and she's putting you *both* in the naughty chair!!! There's room for both types of prayer, praying is not a competitive sport.

[Naomi4Christ]

I'm calling Supernanny and she's putting you *both* in the naughty chair!!! There's room for both types of prayer, praying is not a competitive sport.

But I am oh, so stubborn, LOL!

[gtsecc]

I'm calling Supernanny and she's putting you *both* in the naughty chair!!! There's room for both types of prayer, praying is not a competitive sport.
One has been embraced by the church for 2,000 years.
The other is said to be not of God, by the Desert Fathers.
Isn't praying in toungues possibly dangerous?
I have read 9 o'clock in the Morning, which is about it Charismatic renewal, and praying in tongues in the Episcopal Church.
I have friend who do, and friends who don't.
I am convinced there are sincere Christians who do this.
I am not convinced it has ANYTHING to do with God.
I can't find ANY church history about this in a positive light either.
Monastic writings tend to say, don't do it, it is bad, don't seek it, beware, etc...:scratch:

[higgs2]

One has been embraced by the church for 2,000 years.
The other is said to be not of God, by the Desert Fathers.
Isn't praying in toungues possibly dangerous?
I have read 9 o'clock in the Morning, which is about it Charismatic renewal, and praying in tongues in the Episcopal Church.
I have friend who do, and friends who don't.
I am convinced there are sincere Christians who do this.
I am not convinced it has ANYTHING to do with God.
I can't find ANY church history about this in a positive light either.
Monastic writings tend to say, don't do it, it is bad, don't seek it, beware, etc...:scratch:
I guess I didn't take "spirit led" prayer to mean tongues specifically.

[higgs2]

But I am oh, so stubborn, LOL!
That's okay by the end of the show you'll be a model child.

[Naomi4Christ]

But you forget, not all of us get excited about church history. We are more interested in what the message says than how it got to us. Here's a parallel - we like to watch TV and can enjoy many programmes (well, here in the UK we do) - but we don't have to be interested in how the TV works in order to get that enjoyment (but it was a Scotsman who invented it).

And we all know that church history is not as cut & dried as you make it out to be.

[gtsecc]

I guess you are correct.
I would say that the lectionary and daily cycle are Spirit Led - the result of a corporate revelation to the Church.

[karen freeinchristman]

I guess I didn't take "spirit led" prayer to mean tongues specifically.
Neither did I. I think Naomi was referring to extempore prayer, as in: off the cuff, ad-lib, unplanned, informal, improvised, spontaneous. Maybe. :)

[Naomi4Christ]

I guess I didn't take "spirit led" prayer to mean tongues specifically.

No, I didn't mean tongues. Tongues is there when you don't know what to pray or don't have the English vocabulary to express your feelings.

I just meant praying what is on your heart. And this often begins with a psalm - but not necessarily from any lectionary.

[higgs2]

No, I didn't mean tongues. Tongues is there when you don't know what to pray or don't have the English vocabulary to express your feelings.

I just meant praying what is on your heart. And this often begins with a psalm - but not necessarily from any lectionary.

Look, you have improved already! I just *love* supernnanny!

:) :) :)

[gtsecc]

No, I didn't mean tongues. Tongues is there when you don't know what to pray or don't have the English vocabulary to express your feelings.

I just meant praying what is on your heart. And this often begins with a psalm - but not necessarily from any lectionary.
Well, in that case - we basically agree that daily prayer, specifically begining with a psalm is good for Christian formation. :clap:

[higgs2]

Well, in that case - we basically agree that daily prayer, specifically begining with a psalm is good for Christian formation. :clap:
Yahoo!

It's really all about Christian formation, isn't it? For me, the lectionary and daily office are very helpful tools but I guess not for everyone.

[karen freeinchristman]

:amen:

[Yahweh Nissi]

I put 'occasionally', as I certainly do not daily - maybe morning prayer once or twice a week, evening prayer less, in my personal devotions. Alas I rarely get the chance to do so corporately any more. When I was at college I would go to sung evensong about once a week, which was great.

[DarthDigger]

cool