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DawnTillery
6th November 2005, 11:49 PM
I have a friend and her husband and their 5 children have church in their own way at home. I worry about them (not their salvation) but because they are so isolated. They have been hurt and they do try other churches now and then, but its like they just dont like "Church" anymore. They say Christians are mean..
Not all but some. Any advice on how to get them back into the swing of things? The reason im so concerned is their children are homeschooled also so they arent getting any interaction...

Maybe im worried too much :confused:

Thank you!

Johnnz
7th November 2005, 04:46 AM
I belong to a home church but we take steps to "keep in touch". I read widely. We sometimes attend other churches when there is a special speaker. We use video's DVD's and tapes of recognised teachers and ministry, we invite people to speak to us. We may attend a conference or special set of lectures. These are part of our programme, mixed in with our normal teaching and sharing. In fact, our teaching is probably more varied than is the case with many churches.

I would be concerned with one family becoming isolated though. Although there are several people there i sonly on efamily - that's too introverted for my liking.

John
NZ

New_Wineskin
7th November 2005, 07:12 AM
I have a friend and her husband and their 5 children have church in their own way at home. I worry about them (not their salvation) but because they are so isolated. They have been hurt and they do try other churches now and then, but its like they just dont like "Church" anymore. They say Christians are mean..
Not all but some. Any advice on how to get them back into the swing of things? The reason im so concerned is their children are homeschooled also so they arent getting any interaction...

Maybe im worried too much :confused:

Thank you!

Could you explain *specifically* why you think that it would be good for them to get back into the "swing" of things ?

Their children are getting *no* interaction ? Or , only in your oponion they are not getting *enough* ? Why would "church" be better ? What "interaction" do you see in most christian groups ? *I* see practically none since most do not allow much interaction during their meetings . In fact , when I suggest more interaction during meetings , people usually tell me that would make the meetings too long or it would cause disorder .

Have you attempted to change the "churches" in your area so that they would be better suited for this family ? Why attempt to get the family changed instead of the groups ? ( Those are legitimate questions )

lismore
7th November 2005, 08:48 AM
I have a friend and her husband and their 5 children have church in their own way at home. I worry about them (not their salvation) but because they are so isolated. They have been hurt and they do try other churches now and then, but its like they just dont like "Church" anymore. They say Christians are mean..
Not all but some. Any advice on how to get them back into the swing of things? The reason im so concerned is their children are homeschooled also so they arent getting any interaction...

Maybe im worried too much :confused:

Thank you!

Hi there:wave:

Do not worry, God will neither leave nor forsake his children.

If you mean by the 'swing of things' an institutional religous type church please do not go there.

Church buildings and tithing to a vicar are not listed in scripture. That does not necessarily mean you cannot do them, but it would be definitely wrong to try and manipulate people who do feel,this is wrong.

The bible does clearly say those who follow Christ will be thrown out of the synagogue- the religous setting. Maybe they have placed allegiance to Christ higher than allegiance to man? You cannot serve both God and man. if you could serve God in a building he would not have made you the temple of the Holy Spirit.

:)

lismore
7th November 2005, 08:52 AM
I belong to a home church but we take steps to "keep in touch". I read widely. We sometimes attend other churches when there is a special speaker. NZ

Hi:wave:

I also visit places with a special speaker and mix at special meetings etc.

But I never felt so out of touch as when I was at 5 churchy meetings a week.

:sorry:

Bevlina
7th November 2005, 09:25 AM
I have a friend and her husband and their 5 children have church in their own way at home. I worry about them (not their salvation) but because they are so isolated. They have been hurt and they do try other churches now and then, but its like they just dont like "Church" anymore. They say Christians are mean..
Not all but some. Any advice on how to get them back into the swing of things? The reason im so concerned is their children are homeschooled also so they arent getting any interaction...

Maybe im worried too much :confused:

Thank you!
If they have been hurt by church going people, I don't blame them for staying away! Those people could do more harm to them than good. As your friends are, they are perfectly fine. Do you think Jesus would ever abandon them?
No, He Heals the broken hearted. Obviously they are afraid of being hurt again. I'd leave them be if I were you.
A Church doesn't have to have a steeple. It doesn't have to have the money plate going around. All it needs is Jesus as the central focus.
My children were also home schooled and they had a wonderful time. When it came time for them to interact and go to school, they blended in well with wonderful manners and high results.
Yes, I do believe you may be a little concerned for nothing. Just leave it in Jesus Hands. He leads and His people obey.

DawnTillery
7th November 2005, 11:02 PM
Could you explain *specifically* why you think that it would be good for them to get back into the "swing" of things ?

Their children are getting *no* interaction ? Or , only in your oponion they are not getting *enough* ? Why would "church" be better ? What "interaction" do you see in most christian groups ? *I* see practically none since most do not allow much interaction during their meetings . In fact , when I suggest more interaction during meetings , people usually tell me that would make the meetings too long or it would cause disorder .

Have you attempted to change the "churches" in your area so that they would be better suited for this family ? Why attempt to get the family changed instead of the groups ? ( Those are legitimate questions )

Well, i guess when i mean the swing of things, its mostly for their children, they arent around other kids.. When they were attending church, the children did get to fellowship in sunday school and childrens church with other children. Honestly, it doesnt have to be church, but SOMETHING..
I keep mentioning special events at other churches etc when I hear them.
As far as the churches in our area, I dont really see any problem with them.
The ones ive attended are all pretty friendly, have programs, we have a lot of fellowship during our church service, our sunday school is open forum we have time between that and church to visit with people and we have time after.

They are real picky about their church -- I guess we all are, maybe im being to critical, thats kind of what I am asking should I just leave it alone, but it presses on my heart so much. I have told my friend she may never find the type of church she is looking for, and she said that may very well be, but since she doesnt enroll her children in programs outside of the home, they dont attend public or private school.. I just think the kids need something.

DawnTillery
7th November 2005, 11:06 PM
If they have been hurt by church going people, I don't blame them for staying away! Those people could do more harm to them than good. As your friends are, they are perfectly fine. Do you think Jesus would ever abandon them?
No, He Heals the broken hearted. Obviously they are afraid of being hurt again. I'd leave them be if I were you.
A Church doesn't have to have a steeple. It doesn't have to have the money plate going around. All it needs is Jesus as the central focus.
My children were also home schooled and they had a wonderful time. When it came time for them to interact and go to school, they blended in well with wonderful manners and high results.
Yes, I do believe you may be a little concerned for nothing. Just leave it in Jesus Hands. He leads and His people obey.

Thank you, thats perfect advice.
I will keep praying..

FLANDIDLYANDERS
8th November 2005, 03:34 AM
*church* and *fellowship* can and do exist outside of Christianity,even for Christians!

I am not advocating Religion or even other faiths (necisarily) but I am concenred that *church* is so preoccupied with itself and its fellowshipping and worshipping that we allforgot to follow Jesus into the world.

We are asked to be in the World, the World is just as in need of *fellowship* and *worship* asweare, and just as able to contribute to our lives as we are to them... but this canonly be done thru relationship. For some of us, this we call *church*.

I am afather of 4 and we *church* it with anyone close to hand!

New_Wineskin
8th November 2005, 07:11 AM
Well, i guess when i mean the swing of things, its mostly for their children, they arent around other kids.. When they were attending church, the children did get to fellowship in sunday school and childrens church with other children. Honestly, it doesnt have to be church, but SOMETHING..
I keep mentioning special events at other churches etc when I hear them.
As far as the churches in our area, I dont really see any problem with them.
The ones ive attended are all pretty friendly, have programs, we have a lot of fellowship during our church service, our sunday school is open forum we have time between that and church to visit with people and we have time after.

They are real picky about their church -- I guess we all are, maybe im being to critical, thats kind of what I am asking should I just leave it alone, but it presses on my heart so much. I have told my friend she may never find the type of church she is looking for, and she said that may very well be, but since she doesnt enroll her children in programs outside of the home, they dont attend public or private school.. I just think the kids need something.

Ok . Thanks . :)

I would rather that they have their children spend time with children in the secular setting such as community sports . There would be more of a sense of reality than at these groups or "churches" . Or , perhaps , they could go to these "Sunday school" things and leave after those meetings if they are the real fellowship .

HITR
13th November 2005, 05:34 AM
We're a home church family who has also chosen to home educate our children (home churched for almost a year now, home schooling for over seven years). In all honesty, we are getting more of a true Christian fellowship now then we ever did when we attended a formal "church-church." **how else to say that?!** ;)

I can completely understand why you might be concerned, and I would offer you this. Talk with them and let them know that you would like to better understand how they receive fellowship with others, both in the faith and (for the children) academically. I'd also recommend that you ask them how home church has improved their relationships with both Jesus and their fellow man. From the perspective of a home church/home education mom, I'd personally never have a problem with a friend of mine voicing their concern and seeking understanding.

Personally, in our family, our children are much better socialized (both academically and with those in the faith) then they ever would have been in a formal school (I certainly recognize that not all homeschool families are such), and ever were in a traditional church setting.

Regardless of whether or not your concerns are truly merited is an aside. If you have them, they are important and you would do well to 1) talk honestly, openly, and in a genuinely loving manner with your friends, and 2) do some research on home church, as well as home education, to better understand both of these life choices.

I hope that some of this might be helpful for you, fwiw. :)

Many blessings, HITR

strikerchris0411
21st November 2005, 12:15 AM
I have a friend and her husband and their 5 children have church in their own way at home. I worry about them (not their salvation) but because they are so isolated. They have been hurt and they do try other churches now and then, but its like they just dont like "Church" anymore. They say Christians are mean..
Not all but some. Any advice on how to get them back into the swing of things? The reason im so concerned is their children are homeschooled also so they arent getting any interaction...

Maybe im worried too much :confused:

Thank you!

I am fourteen , I wouldn't want me kids to get interaction with kids at my school.

Schools are horrible nowadays
So you are just worried abnout interacton?

nb_christseeker
22nd November 2005, 01:26 PM
Mat 18:19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Because love takes two. And love is the command to the church, and indeed to all.

strikerchris0411
22nd November 2005, 03:23 PM
technically in a way we are gathering

nb_christseeker
23rd November 2005, 02:06 PM
exactly, so in a way CF itself is a church