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gitlance
4th November 2005, 10:41 PM
I don't know what the purpose of this is, but it's rather interesting. Tell me what you think.

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/7618/trinityinteresting7tb.jpg

Mysterium_Fidei
4th November 2005, 10:54 PM
I don't know what the purpose of this is, but it's rather interesting. Tell me what you think.

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/7618/trinityinteresting7tb.jpg

I don't understand it, exactly, but it looks very interesting!

Thomas2618
4th November 2005, 11:58 PM
hmmm...makes a little sense but it is hard to read at first

cathromang
5th November 2005, 12:33 AM
God the Father = Tradition = the Catholic churches

the Word of God Jesus Christ = Scripture = fundamentalist/protestant

the Holy Spirit = Spiritual Gifts = charisma/mysticism



Different churches represent different aspects of the Trinity?

Very interesting. Where did you find this, if I may ask?

gitlance
5th November 2005, 12:37 AM
I just found it on a random Google image search.

cathromang
5th November 2005, 12:42 AM
I'm curious as to who came up with this and why...

There is something in it...can't quite put my finger on it...

gtsecc
5th November 2005, 03:23 AM
I'm curious as to who came up with this and why...

There is something in it...can't quite put my finger on it...
It is the symbol for various groups such as AA.

karen freeinchristman
5th November 2005, 06:41 AM
I would call it the Universal Church!

gtsecc
5th November 2005, 01:13 PM
I would call it the Universal Church!

I would say only the bottom right section is the universal church. ;)

cathromang
5th November 2005, 08:39 PM
It is the symbol for various groups such as AA.

ah, The AA Code!!!

Notify Dan Brown! :)

Thomas2618
5th November 2005, 10:10 PM
God the Father = Tradition = the Catholic churches

the Word of God Jesus Christ = Scripture = fundamentalist/protestant

the Holy Spirit = Spiritual Gifts = charisma/mysticism



Different churches represent different aspects of the Trinity?



When I read I saw it as being more what the different sects of Christianity focus on more....

I would say only the bottom right section is the universal church.

Agreed, that is if universal is synonymous with Whole and Catholic...I would say that the diagram is a little bit misleading, because IMHO those on the bottom right do the best at focusing on all of the parts shown in the diagram where as the others only focus mostly on one part...

xristos.anesti
6th November 2005, 02:28 AM
If I may, the diagram is dangerous, to say the least.

cenimo
6th November 2005, 03:46 PM
I've got it! Someone decided to apply the lyrics to the songs Bye Bye Miss American Pie, White Rabbit, and The Hotel California, factor in churches, and portray it all in a chart!


To expound a little on what cathromang said, take a good look at the diagram, break the triangle- "the big picture" - into three sections, top, lower left, and lower right.

At the top is the more fundamentalist Protestants, and the Sunday service revolves around Scripture reading and the sermon...at the lower left are Pentecostals / Charismatics, and from one Sunday to the next you never really know what is going to happen at the service...anything from a long sermon to someone in the pews being "slain in the Spirit" and doing anything from speaking in tongues to gymnastics in the aisles....and on the lower right are churches that are more tradition bound and the entire Mass or service centers on the Holy Eucharist.

gitlance
6th November 2005, 04:52 PM
It is a dangerous chart, for it implies that all Christian sects are equal, when they most certainly are not.

Naomi4Christ
6th November 2005, 04:53 PM
It is a dangerous chart, for it implies that all Christian sects are equal, when they most certainly are not.

No, because 'our' one is superior

gitlance
6th November 2005, 05:34 PM
No, because 'our' one is superior

The Catholic faith is the faith given by Christ to the world. All other faiths are only true where they are in agreement with Catholic truth.

Extra ecclessiam nulla salus est.

Naomi4Christ
6th November 2005, 05:35 PM
Exactly, what!

gtsecc
6th November 2005, 05:56 PM
Exactly, what!
Extra ecclessiam nulla salus est.
Outside the Church there is no salvation.
I think that is Cyprian.

Naomi4Christ
6th November 2005, 06:08 PM
Sounds Latin to me. Certainly not what you'd hear on a Saturday night on the streets of Larnaca.

gtsecc
6th November 2005, 06:10 PM
Well, as much as I love early church sayings, I am not too fond of this.
I have to do some mental gymnastics with this one.
I think there are plenty of people who are not even Christian who will be saved.

Thomas2618
6th November 2005, 06:26 PM
Well, as much as I love early church sayings, I am not too fond of this.
I have to do some mental gymnastics with this one.
I think there are plenty of people who are not even Christian who will be saved.

Careful... you don't want to sound universalistic...

gtsecc
6th November 2005, 06:48 PM
Careful... you don't want to sound universalistic...
Ok, how is this?

I think there are plenty of people who are not even Christian who will be saved by Christ.

Thomas2618
7th November 2005, 12:53 AM
Ok, how is this?

I think there are plenty of people who are not even Christian who will be saved by Christ.

I was just playing around with you gtsecc... That is too hard a subject to try to breach though. I have my thoughts but i'm just going to keep them to myself...

xristos.anesti
7th November 2005, 03:05 AM
I was just playing around with you gtsecc... That is too hard a subject to try to breach though. I have my thoughts but i'm just going to keep them to myself...


Indeed, as one of the elders said once:

The only worry we should have about others should be said in our prayer. The only worry we should have for ourselves should be if do not worry about others. (Avva Justin)

gitlance
7th November 2005, 12:23 PM
Well, as much as I love early church sayings, I am not too fond of this.
I have to do some mental gymnastics with this one.
I think there are plenty of people who are not even Christian who will be saved.

Well, you have to understand what the Church means when she teaches this. She means that ALL genuine truth is Catholic truth. Whatsoever anyone believes (Christian or not) that is in harmony with the divine revelation of God in Christ, is Catholic truth. All who will be saved, regardless of where they come from, will only be saved by Christ through Catholic truth. The Church is the pillar and foundation of the truth, and she alone possesses complete revelation from God. Thus, no matter who is saved, it will be as a result of Catholic truth.

AngCath
7th November 2005, 12:31 PM
I've actually seen that diagram before!!