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itoldyounoalready
3rd November 2005, 11:20 PM
Okay, to some who've seen former post I'm still trying to figure out where I fit into the scheme of things so I am going to post everywhere and see where I would fall in.
I'm just curious what the baptists believe, like in terms of OSAS and everything else.
ZiSunka
4th November 2005, 12:10 AM
We believe in God the Father, almighty maker of heaven and earth, and in Jesus Christ, His only begotten son, and in the Holy Spirit. We believe Jesus was born of a human virgin, named Mary, and was conceived by the work of the Holy Spirit, not of a man's desire or will. We believe that Jesus lived a human life, sinless and perfect, taught people the will of God, suffered under the authority of Pontius Pilate and the Jewish rulers, was crucified, not because of his political leanings, but because before the earth was made, God determined that He would have to die to complete the covenant He made with Abraham, to save us from our sins. Jesus was buried and on the third day, he came back to life, fully alive after being completely dead. He was seen and touched and heard by hundreds of people after He resurrected from the dead. We believe that for our faith in the atoning death of Christ God grants us grace and mercy and that we are saved by faith just as Abraham was (he believed God and God accounted it to him as righteousness). We believe there is no other way to become acceptable to God, no other authority by which we can be saved, no amount of good deeds or sacraments that can lead to salvation. We believe in the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of our bodies, the coming judgment of all people and in everlasting life. We believe that the Bible is inerrant in all doctrines and dogmas. We believe that church is the Body of Christ and that all Believers will be the bride of Christ and that God is going to make a New Jerusalem where we will live in perfect communion with Him and each other forever.
Tenorvoice
4th November 2005, 12:26 AM
see Here (http://www.sbc.net/bfm/default.asp) for the SBC Southern Baptist Convention's Faith and Message.
But See Here (www.sbcv.org) for my states convention.
mesue
4th November 2005, 12:54 AM
see Here (http://www.sbc.net/bfm/default.asp) for the SBC Southern Baptist Convention's Faith and Message.
But See Here (http://www.sbcv.org/) for my states convention.
:scratch: My church doesn't have a convention. Does that me me un-conventional? :D
arunma
4th November 2005, 01:04 AM
Okay, to some who've seen former post I'm still trying to figure out where I fit into the scheme of things so I am going to post everywhere and see where I would fall in.
I'm just curious what the baptists believe, like in terms of OSAS and everything else.
Baptists don't really agree on many of the finer doctrinal points. There are several major American denominations of Baptists, several foreign Baptist denominations, as well as thousands of independant Baptist churches.
What unites us all as Baptists? Well, aside from our belief in the essential doctrines of the Christian faith, we are all united by the belief that people should only be baptized after professing faith in Jesus Christ. That's really all there is to it.
Now, if you asked what most Baptists believe, then I could be of more help. Most Baptists tend to be theologically orthodox. First, there are the essentials. We believe in God the Father, creator of all things seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord Jesus, who is the Christ of Israel, who was born of a virgin, who suffered under Pilate, and who was crucified to atone for the sins of all who would believe in him. We believe that on the third day, God raised Christ in glory from the dead, and seated him at his right hand, so that he is able to intercede for us and raise us to life on the last day. We look forward to the day when Christ will come again on the clouds of heaven to secure our adoption as sons of God and to strike down the nations of the earth, and that Christ will judge the living and the dead by the authority that God gives him. We also believe in the Holy Spirit, who interceeds within us and who gives us our faith in Christ, so that we may glorify his Name.
Furthermore, Baptists tend to believe that the Eucharist is a memorial meal, and that it does not transubstantiate into the flesh and blood of our Lord. We believe that the Bible is inspired, and that God truly spoke to us through the prophets, the apostles, and our Lord Jesus Christ. But in specific, we believe that the Bible is inerrent, and that every portion of it contains only truth. Finally, most of us believe in exclusive salvation through Christ, so that salvation is found in no other god or lord.
Well, I hope that helps.
itoldyounoalready
4th November 2005, 01:14 AM
What exactly do you mean by the brides of Christ.
arunma
4th November 2005, 01:38 AM
What exactly do you mean by the brides of Christ.
The church is symbolically the bride of Christ, and Christ is portrayed as the husband who redeems his wife. In fact, Paul tell us that the a husband should love his wife as Christ loved the church.
bethdinsmore
4th November 2005, 07:52 PM
And here's what most Baptists believe about OSAS:
Rom 6:23
23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
(NIV)
Rom 11:29
29 for God's gifts and his call are irrevocable.
(NIV)
John 10:28-29
28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand.
29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand.
(NIV) We can't even take ourselves out of God's hand)
Isn't it great?
Aloha in Jesus
JPPT1974
4th November 2005, 10:32 PM
We believe in God the Father
Through the Lord Jesus Christ
Jesus died for our sins and to save us from eternal separation
Knowing that we can't save ourselves
Also to put faith & trust in Him as our Savior & Lord into our hearts and lifes
That we repent of our sins and admit we are sinners and fall short of His glory
itoldyounoalready
4th November 2005, 11:04 PM
So basically you guys believe in the Nicen creed and don't really differ from any other denomination, except for the fact that you believe differently about baptism?
bethdinsmore
5th November 2005, 01:27 PM
No, there are differences between denominations.
Most Baptists:
1. are conservative (Bible is from God and is inerrant), rather than liberal.
2. believe OSAS, rather than some form of works to keep us saved.
3. are evangelicals (spirituality is from cooperating with & depending on Holy Spirit and not from following external rules (length of skirt, etc.), rather than fundamentalists.
4. believe salvation is by grace through faith, without works.
5. I am sure I missed some other points
If you wanted to know differences between types of Baptist groups you could check out the sticky in this forum entitled "What does the Baptist, Anabaptist Believe?" It discusses American, SBC (Southern), and Reformed.
Aloha in Jesus
thepianist
5th November 2005, 04:15 PM
We believe in God the Father
Through the Lord Jesus Christ
Jesus died for our sins and to save us from eternal separation
Knowing that we can't save ourselves
Also to put faith & trust in Him as our Savior & Lord into our hearts and lifes
That we repent of our sins and admit we are sinners and fall short of His glory
Yes....amen to that!! Jesus is the only way to heaven. Once we accept Jesus we always have salvation. Baptism is the first step in obedience to our Saviour, after we are saved.....it is also the door to membership in the church....but not at all part of our salvation. :clap:
mesue
5th November 2005, 05:23 PM
So basically you guys believe in the Nicen creed and don't really differ from any other denomination, except for the fact that you believe differently about baptism?
No, we believe that baptism does not cleanse one from sin, only from the shed blood of Jesus can I cleanse my sin.
Once I'm dead, I die with my decision of accepting Jesus Christ as Savior or not. Paul says to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. We don't believe that we make "pit stops" when we die. We either go straight to Heaven or straight to Hell when we die, there is no Purgatory, and no one can pray me out of there, even if there were such a place.
We don't pray to anybody but Jesus.
The Lord's Supper holds no salvation in that we don't believe that somehow Jesus magically appears, through the spiritual efforts of the Reverend, so we can ingest Him. Our salvation is through faith, not of works lest any should boast.
There is more, but I think this is enough.
ArchangelGabriel
5th November 2005, 11:17 PM
Osas?
...wait never mind got it
JPPT1974
8th November 2005, 07:21 PM
Also we need to put our faith and trust in Jesus
100% No matter what occurs
No matter if we are having either good or bad days
ZiSunka
11th November 2005, 12:48 PM
We don't accept the notion that baptism cleanses us from sin, nor that there is only one universal church institution that has authority over every believer. We do believe that every believer is a member of the body of Christ, which is sometimes called The Church, but we don't accept the authority that the Catholic church claims to have as the only official church.
JPPT1974
11th November 2005, 08:57 PM
We don't accept the notion that baptism cleanses us from sin, nor that there is only one universal church institution that has authority over every believer. We do believe that every believer is a member of the body of Christ, which is sometimes called The Church, but we don't accept the authority that the Catholic church claims to have as the only official church.
You are right about that my friend!
God bless!
:amen:
mlqurgw
12th November 2005, 02:32 AM
1. Autonomous local church. We do not believe in a heirarchy governing the local assembly.
2.Baptism by immersion.
3.Baptism of believers only. We only baptize upon a profession of faith.
4.Preisthood of the believer. We all have access to God through Christ and need no other to stand between us.
5. We believe that baptism and the Lord's supper are ordinances of the church not sacraments and that there is no grace imparted in them. They are symbols that show us the death of Christ.
6.We believe in the Lordship of Christ.
7.We believe the Bible is the only rule for faith and practice.
8. Seperation of Church and state.
I am sure there are some that I left out but this is generally what distinguishes a Baptist from others.
John Spong is wrong
12th November 2005, 10:24 AM
:scratch: My church doesn't have a convention. Does that me me un-conventional? :D
ROFL!!!
John Spong is wrong
12th November 2005, 10:27 AM
1. Autonomous local church. We do not believe in a heirarchy governing the local assembly.
2.Baptism by immersion.
3.Baptism of believers only. We only baptize upon a profession of faith.
4.Preisthood of the believer. We all have access to God through Christ and need no other to stand between us.
5. We believe that baptism and the Lord's supper are ordinances of the church not sacraments and that there is no grace imparted in them. They are symbols that show us the death of Christ.
6.We believe in the Lordship of Christ.
7.We believe the Bible is the only rule for faith and practice.
8. Seperation of Church and state.
I am sure there are some that I left out but this is generally what distinguishes a Baptist from others.
This is an excellent summary. To that I would also add we believe in "liberty of conscience".
dearme
12th November 2005, 11:44 PM
baptists believe in the KJV Bible. Maybe not all of them, but at laest that's what our church believes and I am a baptist. actually i am an independant baptist!!
hope you find answers:thumbsup:
Okay, to some who've seen former post I'm still trying to figure out where I fit into the scheme of things so I am going to post everywhere and see where I would fall in.
I'm just curious what the baptists believe, like in terms of OSAS and everything else.
arunma
12th November 2005, 11:47 PM
baptists believe in the KJV Bible. Maybe not all of them, but at laest that's what our church believes and I am a baptist. actually i am an independant baptist!!
hope you find answers:thumbsup:
Yeah, my church doesn't do the KJV-only thing. Most of us think that the KJV is a great Bible that was translated by godly men. But no one thinks that it was specially inspired by God. In fact, we use the ESV.
JPPT1974
13th November 2005, 04:00 PM
We accept Christ as Savior & Lord
Repent and ask for His forgiveness of our sins
Put our faith and trust in Him
Follow Him through church baptism and fellowship
danlutgen
15th November 2005, 06:39 PM
Okay, to some who've seen former post I'm still trying to figure out where I fit into the scheme of things so I am going to post everywhere and see where I would fall in.
I'm just curious what the baptists believe, like in terms of OSAS and everything else.
We believe what is called the Baptist distinctives. Only Baptist believe them all.
They are easy to remember because they spell the word Baptists.
Biblical Authority
Autonomous churches
Priesthood of believers
Two offices/ Pastor and Deacon
Individual soul liberty
Seperation of church and state
Two ordinances/ Lords Supper and baptism
Saved membership
danlutgen
15th November 2005, 06:42 PM
baptists believe in the KJV Bible. Maybe not all of them, but at laest that's what our church believes and I am a baptist. actually i am an independant baptist!!
hope you find answers:thumbsup:
Not all Baptist. I go to a Baptist church that uses all versions. I was an independant Baptist for years (20) To much control and drama
53Isaiah
16th November 2005, 12:20 AM
baptists believe in the KJV Bible. Maybe not all of them, but at laest that's what our church believes and I am a baptist. actually i am an independant baptist
2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Bible Versions (http://www.biblebelievers.com/BibleVersions.html)
Tenorvoice
16th November 2005, 01:03 AM
baptists believe in the KJV Bible. Maybe not all of them, but at laest that's what our church believes and I am a baptist. actually i am an independant baptist!!
hope you find answers:thumbsup:
actually I think that just goes from chruch to church. not really a Baptist belief
arunma
16th November 2005, 01:12 AM
Perhaps it would be more apt to say that all KJV-onlyers are Baptists, but that not all Baptists are KJV-only.
NothingButTheBlood
16th November 2005, 04:06 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Baptist
Jamza
16th November 2005, 04:07 PM
We believe what is called the Baptist distinctives. Only Baptist believe them all.
They are easy to remember because they spell the word Baptists.
Biblical Authority
Autonomous churches
Priesthood of believers
Two offices/ Pastor and Deacon
Individual soul liberty
Seperation of church and state
Two ordinances/ Lords Supper and baptism
Saved membership
We have all of those execpt Two Offices, we have Elders too.
JPPT1974
16th November 2005, 08:15 PM
Now at my church, we read the NIV version.
Since our pastor came five years ago.
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