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gtsecc
2nd November 2005, 05:13 PM
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PaladinValer
2nd November 2005, 05:38 PM
The Church came first.
The Bible came hundreds of years later.

If, that is, you want to go by what historical record proves :)

gtsecc
2nd November 2005, 05:42 PM
I woudl also suggest that the Bible proceeds from the Liturgy.
We know which Gospels to include in the NT because they were read in Church.

gitlance
2nd November 2005, 06:05 PM
The Scriptures proceed from the Holy Spirit who has led the Church in inspiration and canonization of the books.

AngCath
2nd November 2005, 06:16 PM
Both come from the Spirit and work together.

Filia Mariae
2nd November 2005, 08:56 PM
The Scriptures proceed from the Holy Spirit who has led the Church in inspiration and canonization of the books.

:thumbsup:

svdbygrace
2nd November 2005, 09:56 PM
The Scriptures proceed from the Holy Spirit who has led the Church in inspiration and canonization of the books.

:thumbsup:

romaneagle13
2nd November 2005, 10:47 PM
The church existed first and the building of it is discussed in the Bible, and now the Bible has continued to grow and build the Church. So I guess you could say they sustain each other and have come full circle.

Thomas2618
3rd November 2005, 12:43 AM
Chicken or the Egg? Haha. In this case though, we do know the answer.

The Scriptures proceed from the Holy Spirit who has led the Church in inspiration and canonization of the books.

Father Rick
3rd November 2005, 01:41 AM
Does the Church proceed from the Bible or the otherway around?

Yes! Both!

The Bible and the Church interacted with each other from the very beginning. Remember that parts of the Bible pre-date the Church by centuries. The early Church had the OT and the Deuterocanonical books and were using them from day one. We have record in the book of Acts (for example) of Philip explaining the Gospel to the Ethiopian eunuch using the books of the Law.

Much of the New Testament is epistles, written to the early Church to address problems and give instructions. The reason for books like 2 Corinthians is that after 1 Corinthians was written and being used in Corinth, the Church there was still growing and encountered new problems not addressed in the first epistle.

All of the New Testament had been written within the first 100 years or so of the Church, even though they weren't formally collected and 'canonized' until the 300's.