Gods plan

[help1212]

I have been educated in Gods powers from church. From what I have learned God Is all knowing and all powerful, correct me if I'm wrong. What has hurt my faith in god revolves around these power's. How can we have freewill if god know's what we are going to do before we do it. He is all knowing, right? If that is true. When God created Adam and Eve, he knew that Eve would sin against him, therefore causing the eternal damnation of all humankind. Why would this compassionate God set us up with this awefull burden?

[heron]

That's why He gave us an atonement for all sin...we are made righteous by Him. Our choice now involves accepting this forgiveness and healing, or rejecting it.

Picture a world without any free choice or potential for change. No choice means robot life. Avoiding the knowledge of good and evil (fruit) would have made things simpler, but I don't think any of us would have made a different choice than Eve; we all want to know, because we're curious and want equity, justice, truth. God could have protected us from awareness, but we preferred to be aware. He gave us that choice.

You might have heard that the word sin means "missing the mark"--losing out on what's best for us, the straightest, safest, most efficient path. God wanted that for us. With a redeemed life, we can come very close to that again, avoiding a lot of pitfalls if we lean on Him daily and listed to His warnings. We still have negative forces around us attacking, but God can help us avoid some of those too.

[heron]

Hey! Welcome to the forum! I just noticed you had one post.

[help1212]

That still doesn't answere why he created mankind to fail. With all his power and wisdom he chose to create a world full of sin rather than creating the perfect world. A world without sin. He knew that eve would sin against him, so why would he let that happen?

[help1212]

By The way, he din't give atonement for sin until after Jesus died on the cross. Everyone that died imbetween that time went to hell. Right?

[carmi]

By The way, he din't give atonement for sin until after Jesus died on the cross. Everyone that died imbetween that time went to hell. Right?

Jesus made reference to Abraham in the parable of the rich man and Lazarus. Abraham was born and died long before Jesus was born and died for our sins. Abraham was not in hell.

Genesis 15:6

If you look at Hebrews 11 you will find quite a few Old Testament characters mentioned. And the way Hebrews 11 talks about those people, it does not look like as if they went to hell.

Atonement is mentioned in the Old Testament - especially in Leviticus.

[heron]

help1212,
I just noticed this was a staff thread--I'm not staff, hope it doesn't matter.

Continuing on that thought of the new plan...

Hebrews 9:14, "How much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?"

Lu 1:68 (http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=lu+1:68&translation=nsn&st=1&new=1&sr=1) - [In Context (http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=lu+1:68&t=nsn&st=1&new=1&sr=1&sc=1)|Read Chapter (http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=lu+1&t=nsn&st=1&new=1)] "Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, For He has visited us and accomplished redemption for His people."

About Hell--the Old Testament describes post-death as a separated holding ground. The New Testament carries that further with Hell and a moment of judgement. As redeemed saints, we claim the righteousness given by Christ's sacrifice. Jesus' sacrifice is sufficient.

Why God created mankind to fail...ask Him.