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flautist
7th October 2005, 09:54 AM
llondy, that article was so full of half truths, it was unreal! Chavez does not hate the US. He dislikes Bush, and I can't say that I blame him. Chavez was even willing to put aside his differences and offer cheap oil to the US after Katrina, and the offer was turned down.

You say that country is split, yet you forget to mention that he has now been domocratically elected 3 times.

You mention that he was elected after the military coup, but forget to mention that the coup was overthrown after only 2 days by citizens who support Chavez. It's pretty impressive that he has enough supporters to overthrow an all-out military coup in a country so divided.

Chavez has also said that he will uphold the rights of the people and the Venezuelan constitution. Not very Dictatorial of him.

Also, the poverty rates in Venezuela have been on a steady DECLINE since Chavez came to power, rising briefly for a year. That year was when the coup happened, and then after the coup there was a short oil strike. Since those two things have been resolved, the poverty rates have been on a decline once again.

As for him buying weapons, I would be buying weapons if I were him, too, especially after seeing what Bush has been doing to any country who decides not to agree with him. Tell me something? How many nukes does he have? Now how many do we have? 'nough said.

Also, what is wrong with socialism? If Chavez has been democratically elected so many times, it's obvious that the majority of Venezuelans like what he's been doing. If they like it, why should it be stopped? What is so bad about Socialism? Maybe we should ask Sweden, Finland, and Norway, three of the most socialist countries in the world, and also the three countries in the world with the lowest poverty rates.


On September 11 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11), 1973 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973), the Chilean military, led by General Pinochet, staged the Chilean coup of 1973 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilean_coup_of_1973) against Allende. Allende died during the capture of the La Moneda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palacio_de_La_Moneda) Presidential Palace. According to the junta's official version, he committed suicide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide) with a machine gun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_gun). The stock of the gun bore a golden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold) plate with the words "To my good friend Salvador Allende from Fidel Castro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidel_Castro)" engraved on it. At the time and for many years after, his supporters nearly uniformly presumed that he was killed by the forces staging the coup; in recent years, the story of his suicide has become more widely accepted. Another version says that Allende was killed in combat on the steps outside the Presidential Palace.

It is known that the United States played a role in Chilean politics prior to the coup, but its degree of involvement in the coup itself is debated. The CIA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA) was notified by its Chilean contacts of the impending coup two days in advance, but contends it "played no direct role in" the coup.

Sounds pretty darn similar to the Venezuelan coup attempt in 2002, no? That's why people think the CIA had a role in trying to overthrow Chavez. The role they had in '73 is disputed, but as they knew about it and did nothing to stop it, they had at the very least, an indirect role. And the way the specified no direct role in '73 makes me think they had a bigger role in helping the Chileans than we previously thought.

PegasusOnFire
18th October 2005, 07:44 PM
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PegasusOnFire
18th October 2005, 07:53 PM

AngelAmidala
21st November 2005, 04:17 PM
Opening at the request of the current Editor-in-Chief, llondy.

EIChief
22nd November 2005, 04:51 PM
Thanks for your letter Flautist, it is nice that we live in a country where we can still voice our opinions on issues such as Hugo Chavez. It would be equally as nice if those in Cuba had the same opportunity, the country that Hugo Chavez seeks to emulate, the country where thousands risk their lives to flee from every year.

llondy, that article was so full of half truths, it was unreal! Chavez does not hate the US. He dislikes Bush, and I can't say that I blame him. Chavez was even willing to put aside his differences and offer cheap oil to the US after Katrina, and the offer was turned down.

That is an interesting approach, hate the Commander in Chief but love the country that elected him. Sort of like when people say they hate Bush but do not hate the military that he is in charge of.

Chavez hates Bush and the U.S., but offering oil to Katrina victims is in his best interest politically. Chavez is a maniac, but he is not stupid. Believe it or not the US does not need help from Chavez, and his help was rightly refused. Our problem after katrina was distribution, we pump more oil out of Texas then we get from Venezuela.

Chavez wants to treat the poor in this country like he treats them in Venezuela, and like they are treated in Cuba. Keep the poor economically dependent on the Government so you can control them.


You say that country is split, yet you forget to mention that he has now been domocratically elected 3 times.

You mention that he was elected after the military coup, but forget to mention that the coup was overthrown after only 2 days by citizens who support Chavez. It's pretty impressive that he has enough supporters to overthrow an all-out military coup in a country so divided.


I am not impressed. You can make promises to those that are poor and win support in droves, just look at Hitler and the Nazi regime. Chavez was greated like a rock star when he went to the Bronx in NYin September. Why not? I would be to if I walked into a depressed, violent city and offered them something for nothing, while telling them how much I loved them.


Chavez has also said that he will uphold the rights of the people and the Venezuelan constitution. Not very Dictatorial of him.


Of course, you need to tell people that until you get control, then you can become the mini-Castro turned dictator you want to be.


Also, the poverty rates in Venezuela have been on a steady DECLINE since Chavez came to power, rising briefly for a year. That year was when the coup happened, and then after the coup there was a short oil strike. Since those two things have been resolved, the poverty rates have been on a decline once again.


And as well they should. The Venezuelan Government is swimming in oil money right now, and they only have about 25 million people. So you promise Utopia to those who want everything handed to them on a silver platter, and when you have the hook set you pull up on the fishing pole. If you have not seen this in action before look at the teachings of Karl Marx.


As for him buying weapons, I would be buying weapons if I were him, too, especially after seeing what Bush has been doing to any country who decides not to agree with him. Tell me something? How many nukes does he have? Now how many do we have? 'nough said.


Nice try. How many WMD's has Bush used on his own people? How many missionaries has Bush thrown out of America? There are many countries that do not agree with Bush, he has only put regime change into place in two of them. We use weapons to defend, Folks like Castro and Khaddafi use them to control. When a lunatic like Chavez starts building up arms and making friends with the worlds communist dictators, the free nations of the world need to take notice.


Also, what is wrong with socialism? If Chavez has been democratically elected so many times, it's obvious that the majority of Venezuelans like what he's been doing. If they like it, why should it be stopped? What is so bad about Socialism? Maybe we should ask Sweden, Finland, and Norway, three of the most socialist countries in the world, and also the three countries in the world with the lowest poverty rates.


Here is where the line is drawn in the sand between socialist, communist, utopian thinkers like yourself, and those who believe in capitalism and freedom. Two different world views, one proven successful, and another proven to fail, or at the very least be stuck in mediocrity.

Anyone can take a large sum of money and hand it to a group of poor people and say that they reduced the poverty rate. Problem is, what have you done for those people but made them more dependent? What are you going to do when those people have children and need more handouts? What are you going to do when there is no advancement in things like medicine and other technologies because there is no incentives? How do you justify Swedens low poverty rate with its extremely high unemployment? Income tax rate at 60% Are you kidding? Taking one statistic like poverty and comparing Sweden to the US is quite a stretch.

In the end, socialism and communism do not work, and has never been proven to work. Free Markets have their problems, as does every system, but nobody can argue with the sustained wealth that the free market system brings if manged correctly. The system does not start to break down until a corrupt Government puts their hands on it.

The funny thing is that those who are proponents of a Socialistic society would never go live under any of the current systems if they had the opportunity to live in a free market society instead. It is human nature to want to be the best you can be, and people only submit to being victims of socialism when they see no other choice, or know nothing different.

Thanks for your comments on the article, even though we will have to agree to disagree it is great that we have the opportunity to do so

God Bless

horsecrazy
23rd December 2005, 05:14 PM
I went to the newspaper and New Creation said if any one wants to help or be the editor talk to her,but I cant.Im Horsecrazy and I would like to help.

EIChief
23rd December 2005, 07:20 PM
What would you like to do Horsecrazy?

horsecrazy
28th December 2005, 04:35 PM
i want to write articles for the paper.

EIChief
29th December 2005, 12:15 PM
What type of articles would you like to write? Have you written any articles before?

horsecrazy
29th December 2005, 06:53 PM
yeh,I did for school.I want to write about things in the U.S.A.

horsecrazy
6th January 2006, 10:01 PM
llondy,can you tell New Creation to contak me?

bubblegirl23
10th February 2006, 09:44 AM
Dear Editor,

Your article submission section is not working. So far I've had 2 articles in the 4 issues and have another for issue 5. When using the submission form, I got a notice saying I am not a staff member. Could we please have this remedied as I'd like to continue submitting.

Thanks,

S.

pmarsh777
16th May 2006, 03:04 PM
these are the last days and no wonder so many countries are fighting each other.

EIChief
17th May 2006, 10:10 AM
There are certain signs for sure, however, we are not privy to God's time table, and no man knows the hour of his coming

cristianna
25th May 2007, 11:41 AM
I wasn't even aware CF had a paper. Very nice-- I like it! :thumbsup: