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SteelDisciple
14th October 2005, 01:09 PM
OK..i've noticed this not just on many forums...but also in person. When I go to church or talk on forums..I notice many Christians are not as NICE as they could be...that or they are SO nice that they seem almost NOT human. (they have no real hobbies..they just smile alot but can't hold any conversations of depth)

Yet..in a game I play online like City of Heroes..i'm a guild (supergrou) and the people there are almost family..theya re so nice..we all get along GREAT. In school..I knew a few people who I got along with great...they were very nice....their lives had depth so there was plenty of things in common,

It just seems like the fellowship I try to find in christians..just isn't there. I keep getting this image of ALL christians being the big dumb male caucasion/jock type or the happy-go-lucky cheerleader types...I know that's wrong. I hate generalizing..but that's how it SEEMS...

eldermike
14th October 2005, 01:16 PM
OK..i've noticed this not just on many forums...but also in person. When I go to church or talk on forums..I notice many Christians are not as NICE as they could be...that or they are SO nice that they seem almost NOT human. (they have no real hobbies..they just smile alot but can't hold any conversations of depth)

Yet..in a game I play online like City of Heroes..i'm a guild (supergrou) and the people there are almost family..theya re so nice..we all get along GREAT. In school..I knew a few people who I got along with great...they were very nice....their lives had depth so there was plenty of things in common,

It just seems like the fellowship I try to find in christians..just isn't there. I keep getting this image of ALL christians being the big dumb male caucasion/jock type or the happy-go-lucky cheerleader types...I know that's wrong. I hate generalizing..but that's how it SEEMS...

Looks like you have found a ministry. I have been preaching on the same subject. Being a Christian should be fun. Jesus was so attractive that thousands would come just to hear a few words. He was not a bore. He was not focused on himself or his problems. Yep, this is a great ministry, go wake them up.

twistedsketch
14th October 2005, 01:39 PM
OK..i've noticed this not just on many forums...but also in person. When I go to church or talk on forums..I notice many Christians are not as NICE as they could be...that or they are SO nice that they seem almost NOT human. (they have no real hobbies..they just smile alot but can't hold any conversations of depth)
I'd be in the first category, because I HATE the second. Plastic smiles and lying through your teeth. :sick:

But on the other hand, it really depends on which group of Christians you refer to. I'm on a secular forum and the difference between that one and this one is astounding.

Also, it is very possible to be nice on one level but when you get deep down, you find something absolutely rotten.

RichardT
14th October 2005, 01:55 PM
Im a straight foward and blunt guy who believes in christ.
I believe that it's up to us to show the catholics that what they are doing is wrong. We can"t be nice about it...

twistedsketch
14th October 2005, 02:07 PM
Im a straight foward and blunt guy who believes in christ.
I believe that it's up to us to show the catholics that what they are doing is wrong. We can"t be nice about it...
Not just the Catholics. Everyone else. And I will give the Catholics credit where credit is due.

4ujesus
14th October 2005, 02:13 PM
Richardt

We can boldly proclaim truth and do it in love at the same time. 1 corinthians tells us that if we speak with tongues of angels....if do good works...etc, but have not love we are a clanging symbol.(just making alot of noise)

As Christians we are indwelt by the Holy Spirit, and the fruit of the Spirit is Love, Joy, Peace, Kindness ,Goodness, genteleness, self control.....

We have, not temporary happiness based on our circumstances, but eternal joy based on our posistion in Christ.

Christians should be the happiest people on earth, in light of all the Lord has done for us.(eternal perspective)

It is only when we take our eyes off the Lord and put them on the storms of life, our circumstances, that we lose our joy.

In how we share with others we are to speak the truth in love.

Love without truth is hypocrisy, truth without Love is Brutality, that is why we must always speak the truth in love.

SteelDisciple
14th October 2005, 02:28 PM
I think what it comes down to..is many christians are afraid to express themselves...afraid to show their emotions for various reasons...and because of this many Christians become VERY reserved people. And because they are reserved...they don't have as rich of a personality...they tend to be very boring and uninsteresting (and close-minded). People like that can come off as very cold or just plain BLAND.

I think that's the word that describes these types of christians best...BLAND.

Kind of like watered down soup...meanwhile, many non-christians and a handful of christians are more like a finely spiced soup with a variety of flavors and depth of taste.

We as christians (generally speaking) need to stop being so bland and learn to enjoy the life God gave us. (in a Godly way that is. I'm not saying go to your local strip club :P)

People of God...STOP BEING BLAND. Become a layered individual with many tastes and interests, while remaining christ centered...or that very blandness will stifle the works of many.


It's this "oh my...that christian rock music is driving our kids to satan. Oh golly. Oh my..." milktoast attitude is EXACTLY what is suffocating christianity today.

Here's some irony for ya. You know those punks and freaks with the chains and the multi-colored hair and what not who come into church or go to christian clubs? I've found that they tend to be more REAL and more centered around Christ and more Christ-LIKE...then most people I ever meet at a church. For every 5 punks..there's 1 "typical" church going christian that is as open and friendly and REAL...What is the key here? What makes them more real and more christian than the others? They are not reserved...they have a spine..they speak their mind and they express their emotions without fear...because they know God is on their side and they are not ruled by those emotions but embrace those that God gives them.

SteelDisciple
14th October 2005, 02:38 PM
Im a straight foward and blunt guy who believes in christ.
I believe that it's up to us to show the catholics that what they are doing is wrong. We can"t be nice about it...

I'm blunt too. I'm somewhat of a loudmouth as well. And that's fine.

Just so you know..I have NO love for the catholic church...I have major beefs with them...BUT..this isn't the thread for spreading personal propaganda or attempting to slither in your own agenda into a topic that was never clearly about the catholic church to begin with. So please stop slithering.
You are completely transparent.

eldermike
14th October 2005, 02:41 PM
Here's some irony for ya. You know those punks and freaks with the chains and the multi-colored hair and what not who come into church or go to christian clubs? I've found that they tend to be more REAL and more centered around Christ and more Christ-LIKE...then most people I ever meet at a church. For every 5 punks..there's 1 "typical" church going christian that is as open and friendly and REAL...What is the key here? What makes them more real and more christian than the others? They are not reserved...they have a spine..they speak their mind and they express their emotions without fear...because they know God is on their side and they are not ruled by those emotions but embrace those that God gives them.

Preach on brother!

jasperbound
14th October 2005, 02:52 PM
OK..i've noticed this not just on many forums...but also in person. When I go to church or talk on forums..I notice many Christians are not as NICE as they could be...that or they are SO nice that they seem almost NOT human. (they have no real hobbies..they just smile alot but can't hold any conversations of depth)

Yet..in a game I play online like City of Heroes..i'm a guild (supergrou) and the people there are almost family..theya re so nice..we all get along GREAT. In school..I knew a few people who I got along with great...they were very nice....their lives had depth so there was plenty of things in common,

It just seems like the fellowship I try to find in christians..just isn't there. I keep getting this image of ALL christians being the big dumb male caucasion/jock type or the happy-go-lucky cheerleader types...I know that's wrong. I hate generalizing..but that's how it SEEMS...

I'm sure it's your own perception. It's like how to me, cute girls are nicer than ugly ones. Then again, maybe my observations are accurate.

SteelDisciple
14th October 2005, 02:55 PM
I'm sure it's your own perception. It's like how to me, cute girls are nicer than ugly ones. Then again, maybe my observations are accurate.

No, not at all. I don't think perception has anything to do with it. That much is certian just by interacting with people.

RichardT
14th October 2005, 02:58 PM
We must speak the truth in love..

Ok , I understand now......

JFrench
14th October 2005, 03:05 PM
I think a lot of "churchianity" teaches oppresion to their people - whether directly or subliminally. People tend to put laws down around laws to cushion themselves from being wrong - rather than live fearlessly, like we should be in Christ. Following hard after Jesus brings life that's better... deeper and more passionate, exciting and fulfilling! Reserved Christians seem to still be living under a lot of bondage. So the ones that are still under bondage either fake it or live miserably under law. It takes complete surrender and trust in God to break lose from that kind of bondage - many Christians simply don't know how to do that.

eldermike
14th October 2005, 03:08 PM
We must speak the truth in love..

Ok , I understand now......

Actually, the standard is being the truth. If you speak the truth it matters not if you are not also being the truth.

twistedsketch
14th October 2005, 03:11 PM
Here's some irony for ya. You know those punks and freaks with the chains and the multi-colored hair and what not who come into church or go to christian clubs? I've found that they tend to be more REAL and more centered around Christ and more Christ-LIKE...then most people I ever meet at a church. For every 5 punks..there's 1 "typical" church going christian that is as open and friendly and REAL...What is the key here? What makes them more real and more christian than the others? They are not reserved...they have a spine..they speak their mind and they express their emotions without fear...because they know God is on their side and they are not ruled by those emotions but embrace those that God gives them.
Yup. Of course we cannot stereotype a whole group of people for good or bad. I hear you on what's good about the "punks" but they can fall into everything they blame the preps for. The style is not for me, but I do respect them.

I believe hardcore music teaches you to just that - express your emotions and thoughts without fear. That's why I like it.

rodimus321
14th October 2005, 05:52 PM
We should treat one another with love, but that love also includes rebuking one another, which doesn't always seem nice.

Like Jesus at the well, He was nice but He told the woman the truth about her living with different men. Yet she ran into town excited and yelling " I just met a man who told me everything I ever did"

covenantwmn
14th October 2005, 06:12 PM
I'd be in the first category, because I HATE the second. Plastic smiles and lying through your teeth. :sick:

But on the other hand, it really depends on which group of Christians you refer to. I'm on a secular forum and the difference between that one and this one is astounding.

Also, it is very possible to be nice on one level but when you get deep down, you find something absolutely rotten.

Ditto! :)

jasperbound
14th October 2005, 07:43 PM
No, not at all. I don't think perception has anything to do with it. That much is certian just by interacting with people.

So, then I am right. Cute girls are nicer and have better personalities than ugly girls.

catlover
14th October 2005, 08:40 PM
It just seems like the fellowship I try to find in christians..just isn't there. I keep getting this image of ALL christians being the big dumb male caucasion/jock type or the happy-go-lucky cheerleader types...I know that's wrong. I hate generalizing..but that's how it SEEMS...


Maybe, it's your own limitations and surroundings which cause you to have these perceptions. I mean if you were in an area which had more minorities you would meet a lot more African American Baptists or Hispanic Pentecostals...right? If you were around a diverse population it may change your limited perception of Christians.