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Tishri1
12th October 2005, 02:28 PM
Who want's to help me out?
http://www.christianforums.com/t1900933-yes-the-bible-does-preach-the-pre-trib-rapture.html&page=54#post19158286
there is a person who doesn't see any significance to Yom Kippur in the End Times... need some reinforcements:wave:
any takers?
Yovel
12th October 2005, 03:26 PM
Hi Tishri1,
This is just part of an article from AMF International. Hope this helps.
Yom Kippur and Prophecy
The yearly observance of Yom Kippur foreshadows the Great Day of Judgment to come, when Messiah will come to preside of the Judgment of the world, and reestablish Israel in its rightful place. (Jeremiah 33:11) When Moses was on the mountain receiving the Torah, the people below got tired of waiting. They decided Moses had forgotten them, and presumably HA-SHEM had forgotten them, and so they persuaded Aaron, who was supposed to be their spiritual leader in Moses' absence, to cater to their needs in their own way. So they forgot God and fell into idolatry. When Moses returned, their unfaithfulness was exposed. God forgave them, but only when they returned to him in true repentance. When Messiah Yeshua returns, Israel will be embarrassed. (Ezekiel 16:63) They shall "look on him whom they pierced, and mourn for him as an only son." (Zechariah 12:10, literal translation) They will recognize him as the one they rejected, but when he comes in glory, there will be no denying who he is. At that time, "all Israel will be saved," (Romans 11:26) and "The LORD himself shall dwell among them." At this time Messiah will fulfill all the kingly prophecies, just as surely as at his first coming he fulfilled the prophecies of the suffering servant at his first coming. This is the beginning of the Kingdom, which is sometimes called "The Millennial Reign" or simply "The Millennium," because the apostle John refers to it as lasting "a thousand years" (Rev. 20:4), in accordance with a long-held Jewish tradition. This will be that Golden Age of prophetic vision. This is that famous time when: The wolf shall dwell with the lamb, the leopard lie down with the kid; The calf the beast of pray and the fatling together, with a little boy to lead them. -- Isaiah 11:6,7 (JPS)
NEXT YEAR IN JERUSALEM!
Tishri1
12th October 2005, 04:26 PM
hey that's great! want to go over there with me and post it there?
CovenantRay
12th October 2005, 04:56 PM
With 5 minutes to go until Yom Kippur, The "Last Trump" is blown on the shofar in the Kol Nidre service. What is the scripture? There's the hint, you follow where the scripture leads.
Shalom
CovenantRay
Tishri1
12th October 2005, 05:34 PM
With 5 minutes to go until Yom Kippur, The "Last Trump" is blown on the shofar in the Kol Nidre service. What is the scripture? There's the hint, you follow where the scripture leads.
Shalom
CovenantRaycome on over Ray, I know you can breath life into this thread...:wave:
thanks Vis for coming over there, I always love your inspiring words:wave:
visionary
12th October 2005, 06:20 PM
You're welcome...Now time to repent....
CovenantRay
13th October 2005, 05:44 PM
With 5 minutes to go until Yom Kippur, The "Last Trump" is blown on the shofar in the Kol Nidre service. What is the scripture? There's the hint, you follow where the scripture leads.
Shalom
CovenantRay
Shalom:
Once again, I almost got it right.....
The shofar is blown (one long blast) during the Ne'ilah service to close Yom Kippur.
[retorical] Note to self: don't write in the forums when on the brink of the High Holy Days!
CovenantRay :prayer:
Here are some scripture references (HNV), in particular the scripture in Matthew 24 is interesting:
(Mat 24:31) He will send out his angels with a great sound of a shofar, and they will gather together his chosen ones from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.
(1Co 15:52) in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last shofar. For the shofar will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we will be changed.
(1Th 4:16) For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the chief angel, and with God's shofar. The dead in Messiah will rise first,
Tishri1
13th October 2005, 08:30 PM
yeh but I wanted you(and your scriptures) to walk over there with me....They need some fresh blood, I think there tired of me...:sigh:
CovenantRay
13th October 2005, 11:12 PM
yeh but I wanted you(and your scriptures) to walk over there with me....They need some fresh blood, I think there tired of me...:sigh:
Shalom Tishri:
Perhaps I am timid, perhaps I am not itching for a fight. I just don't have it in me to toss myself into the frey. I venture out into the biblical archeology forum and here. Maybe some day I will be emboldened to do so!
CovenantRay :prayer:
CovenantRay
13th October 2005, 11:13 PM
Dunno how I got a doubled post.....
Bananna
14th October 2005, 02:01 AM
Shalom:
Once again, I almost got it right.....
The shofar is blown (one long blast) during the Ne'ilah service to close Yom Kippur.
[retorical] Note to self: don't write in the forums when on the brink of the High Holy Days!
CovenantRay :prayer:
Here are some scripture references (HNV), in particular the scripture in Matthew 24 is interesting:
Heehee, I know what you mean about posting on the heels of a holyday.
the scriptures sound like "Day of Shouting" now called Roshoshana (sp?)
bananna
simchat_torah
14th October 2005, 02:24 AM
Someone pm'ed me, but I accidently deleted it so I'm not sure who it was from.... but no, I can't give any teachings here in this thread... sorry to whoever asked. I'm afraid I can't give 'teachings' anywhere in the MJ forum :(
hehe, you'll have to search the forum for old posts, nothing new is coming from Yaf-man. ;) Not unless the ole icon changes, and that isn't very likely *chuckles*
shalom,
Yafet
Tishri1
14th October 2005, 09:57 AM
Someone pm'ed me, but I accidently deleted it so I'm not sure who it was from.... but no, I can't give any teachings here in this thread... sorry to whoever asked. I'm afraid I can't give 'teachings' anywhere in the MJ forum :(
hehe, you'll have to search the forum for old posts, nothing new is coming from Yaf-man. ;) Not unless the ole icon changes, and that isn't very likely *chuckles*
shalom,
YafetAre you sure that is a Hands Off forum over there...It's the escetology(sp) one? Isn't everyone allowed to post there? :groupray:
Talmidah
14th October 2005, 11:02 AM
Are you sure that is a Hands Off forum over there...It's the escetology(sp) one? Isn't everyone allowed to post there? :groupray:
We're not allowed there. It is in the Christians Only section. So only those Christians who abide by the Nicene Creed are allowed to post there. :wave:
Tishri1
14th October 2005, 01:15 PM
are we forever going to have these walls that separate us* Tishri sad and frustrated*:sigh:
Tishri1
14th October 2005, 09:40 PM
Vis got shot at, maybe it was a bad Idea me asking for help:sigh: i don't want my friends to get slimed:( Sorry Vis
Critias
17th October 2005, 12:30 PM
Tishri, I don't agree with a pre-trip rapture, but I do think you and visionary have presented your cases well over on that forum. If they choose not to hear you, then reinforcements won't help either.
The festivals you speak of on that forum have actually got me to rethinking my own position on the pre-trib rapture. I was not aware of the different shofar's that were blown, being that the last trumpet wasn't the "last" trumpet blown.
So, let me ask, are there Messianics that don't believe a pre-trib rapture? If so, why?
Shalom
jgonz
17th October 2005, 10:55 PM
I don't believe in a pre-trib rapture, and haven't for a long time (long before becoming Messianic). The traditional born-again church I went to preached the pre-trib rapture, but I had a hard time with the picking & choosing Scripture that went with it. From the way *I* read Matthew 24, it sure did sound like Believers were going through... not up. ;)
Tishri1
18th October 2005, 10:22 AM
Tishri, I don't agree with a pre-trip rapture, but I do think you and visionary have presented your cases well over on that forum. If they choose not to hear you, then reinforcements won't help either.
The festivals you speak of on that forum have actually got me to rethinking my own position on the pre-trib rapture. I was not aware of the different shofar's that were blown, being that the last trumpet wasn't the "last" trumpet blown.
So, let me ask, are there Messianics that don't believe a pre-trib rapture? If so, why?
Shalomoh Yes there are but I don't see the order to their thinking as far as how the Festivals line up...I still LOVE them and always will though...I personally am excited at what is instore for those who are SAVED, and honestly can't see ABBA throwing us into a no win situation especially when we are betrothed and My Betrothed is more than able to protect me....I'm counting on him to do that!...But I see a strong pattern for a catching away(and a resurection too) at the beginning followed by 10 days of repentance(for those still lost [and stubborn] at that time) and then a final judgement at the end...Maybe that catching away will not be off of this planet but it will be to a safe place, completely away from danger. I trust that, and see the pattern for that in the Fall Feasts:wave:.
jgonz
18th October 2005, 10:36 AM
Oh yes, I agree with us being moved to a safe place and supernatural protection... Just like the supernatural protection in the wilderness for 40 years, or the ark that Noah had.
What I don't agree with in the pre-trib rapture theory is the getting snatched up and going to heaven to wait out the tribulation. The pampered spoiled teaching that's going on, kwim?
Tishri1
18th October 2005, 11:45 AM
I think there is credit to that theory too but it is not my choice to deside , only ABBA...but take a look at the consomation part of the Jewish wedding.... the Bride is wisked away to a place of seclusion(a place that is built right next door or attached to her husband's ABBA's house) hmmmmm and they are pampered in a way for a whole week, no visitors, no work, just alone time(hmmmm) and when they come out of their room, they are greeted with a huge party / reception hmmmmm It fits the Fall Feasts perfectly well time will tell if we go, hide, stay and try to survive, or keep watching and waiting till we get old and die....It all in ABBA's "Appointed" Time....
PS I forgot to add this:
John 14:2-3 2 "In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. 3 "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also. I'm still not saying it HAS to be a leaving the planet but with The Fall Festivals, the first day beginning them is Rosh Ha Shannah, and we see a picture of this scene in it's teaching and liturgy...there seems to be no other place where this takes place...at the end we are ruling and reigning with him here on earth, so when do we get to see his father's house?
I'm just saying if he chooses to do it this way I'll take it:clap:
Critias
18th October 2005, 12:44 PM
I truly appreciate the perspective of the Jewish people. I am not sure what has happened in me lately, but I know it is His Hand that works within me. I have never had an interest in anything Jewish, not even remotely.
These days, I want to learn as much as I can about all things Jewish. I feel such a love developing inside me for the Jewish people. It is a feeling inside of one wanting to protect, shelter, care for, uplift, ect for my Jewish brothers and sisters. This compassions is building in me for the Jewish people, yet it isn't just for the Jewish people. I feel it for all who have been mistreated, abandoned, beaten, forgotton, lost, and sad. I am thankful that I can feel His Spirit welling up within me.
I apologize for going off on a tangent. What I am curious about is what is the perspective a "no pre-trib rapture" within the Messianic community. What is it based on; Scripture only, Jewish customs/festivals, etc.
My point, maybe it might help, is that I can see the relevance of the festivals within Scriptural teaching. Jesus uses the culture, customs, ceremonies, of the Jews, being a Jew Himself, to explain the Kingdom of Heaven and what the time of the end will be like.
So, when Jesus speaks of Himself as the BrideGroom coming for His bride, why would it not follow the Ancient Jewish Wedding Feast? From what I have learned (please correct me) is that this is called the day and the hour that no one knows but the father. This is because the father sets the time for the wedding consumation. When he calls his son to go and get his bride, the son comes in the middle of the night (usually) and takes his bride unannounced to a secret location where they consumate the marriage for 7 days. After the 7 days a procession marches into the village of the wife and a wedding feast takes place.
This to me, mirros a pre-trib rapture. Granted, I don't accept a pre-trib rapture, but I can see how this Feast does mirror one. Is there another perspective on this Feast with the relevance of the BrideGroom (Jesus) and the Bride (His Church) that doesn't have 7 days of consummation, or something different that I have not understood?
Critias
18th October 2005, 12:48 PM
I think there is credit to that theory too but it is not my choice to deside , only ABBA...but take a look at the consomation part of the Jewish wedding.... the Bride is wisked away to a place of seclusion(a place that is built right next door or attached to her husband's ABBA's house) hmmmmm and they are pampered in a way for a whole week, no visitors, no work, just alone time(hmmmm) and when they come out of their room, they are greeted with a huge party / reception hmmmmm It fits the Fall Feasts perfectly well time will tell if we go, hide, stay and try to survive, or keep watching and waiting till we get old and die....It all in ABBA's "Appointed" Time....
PS I forgot to add this:
I'm still not saying it HAS to be a leaving the planet but with The Fall Festivals, the first day beginning them is Rosh Ha Shannah, and we see a picture of this scene in it's teaching and liturgy...there seems to be no other place where this takes place...at the end we are ruling and reigning with him here on earth, so when do we get to see his father's house?
I'm just saying if he chooses to do it this way I'll take it:clap:
One area that I think might be relevant or not is that if His second coming and the pre-trib rapture are to take place like the wedding feast and Rosh Hashannah, The Days of Awe, Yom Kippur, and the Sukkot, does this mean it must fall on these days?
From my perspective on this, I think these were used to help those whom Jesus spoke to, to understand what He was saying. I can see the complete relevance to the rapture and His second coming with these Festivals, but I don't think it would need to happen when the Festivals happen. Does that make sense? Would that be consistent with Jewish thought?
Tishri1
18th October 2005, 02:37 PM
First of all I have tears in my eyes from reading you Post on your feelings, I feel just the same and was blessed more than you know to read that you feel the same way! There.... now I can wipe my happy tears and try to answer your questions..."BY THE WAY WHERE IS EVERYONE TODAY?"*Tish opens a window and yells outside* "NO COMPUTERS HOOKUPS IN YOUR SUKKAHS? WELL I KNOW TALMADIM DOES BUT MAYBE HE IS WATCHING HIS BIG SCREEN INSTEAD^_^HEHEHE"
sorry I was shouting to everyone else cuz they're all out side celebrating Sukkot (Feast of Tabernacles) and not posting much...I have rain today sad....they will be back soon though and I'm sure one of us who has a different view will share...we are all loving friends in here though so you will like the views presented I'm sure...
OK here is my take and I think everyone here will concureOne area that I think might be relevant or not is that if His second coming and the pre-trib rapture are to take place like the wedding feast and Rosh Hashannah, The Days of Awe, Yom Kippur, and the Sukkot, does this mean it must fall on these days? YES!*Tish blerts out*Sorry I shouldn't be so bold:blush::sorry:... well let me just ask a question? Did Yeshua accomplish his goal (fulfill) the Spring Feasts?
Died on Passover
Buried on Unleaven Bread
Rose on First Fruits
Sent the Holy Spirit on Penticost
What is left for him to do?
Give us our new bodies....
Judge the Devil (by exposing the Anti Messiah).....
Set up His Reign.....
there is obviously more to it than that but yes there is more work to do...
are there any more appointed times left to do these on?
hmmmm yep
what do these days teach us as we begin to look at them?
everything about the End Times!:clap:
well I'd say if it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and acts like a duck....
I'm being funny I hope you know^_^
I just can't see that anymore clues are needed....it's pretty plain that that is what is going to happen ........of course it's ABBA's plan and He calls the shots sooooo watch I must, but let me say these Festivals have been sooooooo much fun to do in light of what we are watching and waiting for....our soon and comming King :clap:
well I must get back to the "Season of our Joy"...(Idiom for Sukkot)...."Tis the season to be jolly falalalalalalalala.....*Tish skips off to look for Tal and steal his remote* Want to come?:groupray:
CovenantRay
18th October 2005, 02:40 PM
Shalom:
Nobody asked, but here's my two shekels worth. My perspective has always been that knowing HaShem is real and true, Y'shua is my messiah, the Ruach HaKodesh is real and in me, and the Bible is G-d breathed is more than enough.
At the end of my life, I will be as filled with joy as I was upon the day of my salvation, perhaps more so. The prospect of being in heaven is appealing but not the reason for my joy and hope.
My study has included analyses of pre- vs post- tribulation rapture. They both have pluses and minuses. Personally, my study has led me to believe the pre- is a bit more compelling. These are prepared by scholars and therefore are not infallible. In my reading of the scriptures, those whose salvation rests in Y'shua will be spared the worst, however it is not in [my opinion] HaShem's nature to spare our fleshly selves from all the turmoil.
What my rambling is leading up to can be summed up this way -- Prepare for the worst (post-tribulation), and pray for the best (pre-tribulation).
Praying for the best,
CovenantRay :prayer:
Tishri1
18th October 2005, 03:01 PM
I 'm with you bro...:amen:
Happy Sukkot!:clap:
Critias
18th October 2005, 09:59 PM
What my rambling is leading up to can be summed up this way -- Prepare for the worst (post-tribulation), and pray for the best (pre-tribulation).
Praying for the best,
CovenantRay :prayer:
Ray, I really agree with this in the overall perspective of things. When I first really started studying the Bible, I went into it believing a pre-trib rapture because the Church I was going to said it was true. When I began to study it more closely, I began to disagree with it. In my understanding then, I didn't know about the Last Trumpet not being the Last Trumpet, but rather the Grand Trumpet was the last. I also wasn't interested in anything Jewish.
Today, I still don't agree with a pre-trib rapture, but learning about the Jews and their beliefs has got me rethinking my position on the rapture.
When I didn't believe a pre-trib rapture, I did believe in preparing for the worst. Now that my perspective has changed on it, I am praying for the best. There are parts of me that do hope it is true, but there is a lot of me that hopes it is not.
I know how awful and scary it will be to witness the Tribulation, but as scary as it may be, I would want to stay and go through it. I want to continue preaching the Gospel to those who don't know. I want to shine the light to the Blessed One who Redeems and brings Hope.
I would rather suffer until my death to share the Gospel with atleast just one so that they too may be saved, then to be spared of the pain of this world. It matters not what any man can do to my body, it matters that the Lords work is carried out.
Is it just me or can you feel in your spirit that the time is near? I had a dream many months ago and I would like to share for I feel I should. I was walking to house to gather goods and belongings for my family, for they were in hiding. The military of the time was killing all those who believed in Yeshua. As I was gather supplies, a squad broke into the house to search it. I escaped and headed toward a city that looked in ruins. I stood upon a hill and looked to the sky, planes were bombing a nearby city. Below me stood what was left of another city. I traveled down the hill and walked the streets, they were deserted except for a few who were escaping the ruins.
As I walked along a street, I looked to my left and there against a building were two men on their knees with their heads bowed. I looked behind them to the wall and there were pictures of peoples faces. I walked up towards the two men to get a closer look of the pictures and I saw my face among them. Then, the two men looked up, directly at me. One said, without his mouth moving, not to fear, for you are saved by the Blessed One.
I felt such great comfort upon hearing of these words and I began to walk past them, as if I was carried. I came to the corner of this building, and at the corner was a door. It was open. I looked inside and I saw a man in white walk past. Curious, I stayed. Then, at that moment, this Man appeared at the entrance of the door. His hair was whooly white, His feet and calves were like bronze. He wore a beautiful white robe. His eyes were of fire and He had a stern look upon His face. I knew He was coming, for the time was nigh.
At the moment, I awoke. Such a feeling of comfort that I have never felt. Yeshua, stands at the door, even now. Soon is the time of His coming.
Blessed be the Name above all names, Yeshua, the True King, the True High Priest.
Tishri1
19th October 2005, 11:00 AM
Ray, I really agree with this in the overall perspective of things. When I first really started studying the Bible, I went into it believing a pre-trib rapture because the Church I was going to said it was true. When I began to study it more closely, I began to disagree with it. In my understanding then, I didn't know about the Last Trumpet not being the Last Trumpet, but rather the Grand Trumpet was the last. I also wasn't interested in anything Jewish.
Today, I still don't agree with a pre-trib rapture, but learning about the Jews and their beliefs has got me rethinking my position on the rapture.
When I didn't believe a pre-trib rapture, I did believe in preparing for the worst. Now that my perspective has changed on it, I am praying for the best. There are parts of me that do hope it is true, but there is a lot of me that hopes it is not.
I know how awful and scary it will be to witness the Tribulation, but as scary as it may be, I would want to stay and go through it. I want to continue preaching the Gospel to those who don't know. I want to shine the light to the Blessed One who Redeems and brings Hope.
I would rather suffer until my death to share the Gospel with atleast just one so that they too may be saved, then to be spared of the pain of this world. It matters not what any man can do to my body, it matters that the Lords work is carried out.
Is it just me or can you feel in your spirit that the time is near? I had a dream many months ago and I would like to share for I feel I should. I was walking to house to gather goods and belongings for my family, for they were in hiding. The military of the time was killing all those who believed in Yeshua. As I was gather supplies, a squad broke into the house to search it. I escaped and headed toward a city that looked in ruins. I stood upon a hill and looked to the sky, planes were bombing a nearby city. Below me stood what was left of another city. I traveled down the hill and walked the streets, they were deserted except for a few who were escaping the ruins.
As I walked along a street, I looked to my left and there against a building were two men on their knees with their heads bowed. I looked behind them to the wall and there were pictures of peoples faces. I walked up towards the two men to get a closer look of the pictures and I saw my face among them. Then, the two men looked up, directly at me. One said, without his mouth moving, not to fear, for you are saved by the Blessed One.
I felt such great comfort upon hearing of these words and I began to walk past them, as if I was carried. I came to the corner of this building, and at the corner was a door. It was open. I looked inside and I saw a man in white walk past. Curious, I stayed. Then, at that moment, this Man appeared at the entrance of the door. His hair was whooly white, His feet and calves were like bronze. He wore a beautiful white robe. His eyes were of fire and He had a stern look upon His face. I knew He was coming, for the time was nigh.
At the moment, I awoke. Such a feeling of comfort that I have never felt. Yeshua, stands at the door, even now. Soon is the time of His coming.
Blessed be the Name above all names, Yeshua, the True King, the True High Priest.:amen:Wow that was a cool dream....we should start a thread on End Times Dreams ....
stone
19th October 2005, 06:59 PM
interesting thread, the thing is enormous.
it's mind boggling to try and put the various christian perspectives into one scripture. or is that one scripture that provides various points of views...?
bad joke.
i'm finding the lack of torah education of christians may be the cause of this. ;)
still waiting on my holy cow book... :yawn:
Critias
21st October 2005, 01:17 AM
Ray, you asked me if this dream was from HaShem. I contemplated this for a few days, not wanting to give an answer that may be not be correct. In my heart, I believe this dream was from HaShem.
During this time, my studies were quite intense. I was seeing my sinful nature quite clearly and it grieved me very much. This dream gave me peace at a time when I was feeling very guilty for the sinful man I am. Learning more about His teachings, gives a clearer view of sin and what it is. So, I began to see things inside myself even more.
The last four days have been rather something for me. The experiences in these days also leads me to believe that this dream was more then just comfort for me in the area of salvation but also that His coming is soon.
These last four days, I have had several dreams each night where someone or something is proclaiming the coming of Yeshua and I can see Him in the sky. Last night, I remember four dreams all with the same message, but I was in different locations.
I am not quite sure what to make of them, other then the obvious. So yes, I believe that dream was from HaShem as well as these. I feel, lately, as if my heart is breaking for those who refuse to accept His invitation. There is more to this as well, but I don't feel quite comfortable expressing it because I don't know what to make of it.
My apologies for my rambling.
Vaneeza Malkah
21st October 2005, 02:09 AM
sin in the scriptures has always been the transgression of the law, or you could say lawlessness :)
Tishri1
21st October 2005, 09:57 AM
i'm finding the lack of torah education of christians may be the cause of this. ;)
still waiting on my holy cow book... :yawn:I agree, and most of that disinterest in Torah has to do with the Bad teaching that says that was for the Jews only....hey there were 11 other tribes out in the wilderness and a great multitude of Gentiles besides and I think I heared him say... Leviticus 18:26 26 'But as for you, you are to keep My statutes and My judgments, and shall not do any of these abominations, neither the native, nor the alien who sojourns among you oy!:doh:
CovenantRay
21st October 2005, 12:07 PM
Ray, you asked me if this dream was from HaShem. I contemplated this for a few days, not wanting to give an answer that may be not be correct. In my heart, I believe this dream was from HaShem.
During this time, my studies were quite intense. I was seeing my sinful nature quite clearly and it grieved me very much. This dream gave me peace at a time when I was feeling very guilty for the sinful man I am. Learning more about His teachings, gives a clearer view of sin and what it is. So, I began to see things inside myself even more.
The last four days have been rather something for me. The experiences in these days also leads me to believe that this dream was more then just comfort for me in the area of salvation but also that His coming is soon.
These last four days, I have had several dreams each night where someone or something is proclaiming the coming of Yeshua and I can see Him in the sky. Last night, I remember four dreams all with the same message, but I was in different locations.
I am not quite sure what to make of them, other then the obvious. So yes, I believe that dream was from HaShem as well as these. I feel, lately, as if my heart is breaking for those who refuse to accept His invitation. There is more to this as well, but I don't feel quite comfortable expressing it because I don't know what to make of it.
My apologies for my rambling.
Dear Critias:
Just to be clear, I didn't ask if it was from G-d, for that is not for me to interpret. Much of the dream you reported is biblical. I'm not sceptical. By definition, we are living in the "end times," and we are to expect Y'shua at any moment.
If I were in your shoes, which of course I'm not, I would be praying my heart and soul out trying to learn what He wanted for me to do.
Assuming that it is from Him, there is a purpose to these dreams. It could be a "wake up call" similar to what was given to Noah. The rain is coming, build a boat! Maybe it is a call to witness to the unsaved.
Whatever it is, praise Him!
May HaShem bless you with the peace that passes all understanding,
CovenantRay :prayer:
Israeli
24th October 2005, 07:50 AM
Who want's to help me out?
http://www.christianforums.com/t1900933-yes-the-bible-does-preach-the-pre-trib-rapture.html&page=54#post19158286
there is a person who doesn't see any significance to Yom Kippur in the End Times... need some reinforcements:wave:
any takers?
Shalom young one,
Yom Kippur is the fulfillment of Zechariah 12:10, it is the national atonement of the sins of Israel. Read Zechariah 12-14 and Romans 11. I have lots to teach on this but I just don't have the time right now. My last bus is leaving any moment.
Go to my website for some info.
Israel ישראל
Tishri1
24th October 2005, 09:02 AM
Shalom young one,
Yom Kippur is the fulfillment of Zechariah 12:10, it is the national atonement of the sins of Israel. Read Zechariah 12-14 and Romans 11. I have lots to teach on this but I just don't have the time right now. My last bus is leaving any moment.
Go to my website for some info.
Israel ישראלThanks:wave:
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