Is the Trinity Broadcasting Network anointed?

[Help-me-learn]

Alot of crazy teaching on TBN. Can it be anointed with good and bad comming out of it?

[Susan]

I don't think so. I think it is more like a poisoned stew pot. Some good things are there-amidst MUCH bad. :sigh: and that's too bad since it is the only Christian station around here

[Jenna]

I don't like many of the things that I hear when I watch TBN. My advice to anyone who watches that network is that every lie begins with a grain of truth, so weigh EVERYTHING against the Word. :)

Do I believe that good can come from bad? Not really. I understand that alot of people have good intentions, but that doesn't mean that what they teach is really biblical. I think what bothers me the most, just from the frequency of it happening, is when preachers want to use a little bit of scripture and attempt to use it to bolster their own private opinions, teaching their opinions as law. It's just not a good thing.

[LouisBooth]

not a good thing to watch to learn in my opinion. :)

[MizDoulos]

Since this thread is more suited here, it has been moved from Questions About Christianity.

[LouisBooth]

I was wondering what happened ;)

[Loser For Jesus]

Originally posted by Help-me-learn
Alot of crazy teaching on TBN. Can it be anointed with good and bad comming out of it?

No.

(2 Cor 6:14-17)  Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? (15) What harmony is there between Christ and Belial ? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? (16) What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people." (17) "Therefore come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you."

love in Christ,

Malcolm

[Help-me-learn]

when it comes to TBN do we throw the baby out with the wash?

[Susan]

No, just don't give to the Praise-A-Thon or for some cheap "love gift" (which always requires at least 20 to 25 dollars of financial "love," LOL), and ignore the shows that you know to be false or to have false teaching. (For starters, I personally would avoid Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, the Crouches, Earl Paulk, Bob Larson, Rod Parsley, Casey Treat, and so on.)

[Andrew]

yes, I believe some of the preachers on TBN are annointed of God and I certainly praise and thank God for them.

I enjoy Benny Hinn, Copelands, Jesse Duplantis.... Bless God for them!

[Susan]

Jesse Duplantis :rolleyes:

(edited for sarcastic remark ;) )

 

[Job_38]

Anybody watch Crefloe Dollar? That guy is a little....crazy? \

JESUS WASN'T A POOR MAN, HE WUZ A RICH MAN AND IF YA DONT BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HELL AND A.LJKHJGDHJKGH!!!!!!!!1 RAISE THOSE HANDS.

On Benny Hinn, I do not believe he is truly preaching for God. More, it seems he is preaching Benny Hinn, not Jesus Christ.

[Andrew]

yeah Susan, :)

Jesse Duplantis is one of my fav. he's loud and radical, and really gets to those religious folks and faith critics. *LOL

[eldermike]

I believe in the local church. I watch almost zero TV these days. I have seen some hungry kids that were eating because of the donations to some TV ministries. I guess my prayer would be that folks watching TV church would join a local missions minded church and tithe there, it's eaiser to be accountable that way.

[Susan]

I do not agree with Jesse Duplantis. In fact, I edited my post because of some sarcasm I thought funny but that I knew the faith movement people would ask that I be banned for making.
Just to clarify. :)

[Andrew]

"but that I knew the faith movement people would ask that I be banned for making."

now why wld they/we wanna do that? we aint that petty. :)

[SpiritPsalmist]

Originally posted by Andrew
yeah Susan, :)

Jesse Duplantis is one of my fav. he's loud and radical, and really gets to those religious folks and faith critics. *LOL

 

Jesse Duplantis is my favorite!  He's Cajun.  That's just the way he is.  He's real.  And he loves God.

Also, when I get the chance which is not very often, I enjoy, Perry Stone, Mack Hammon, Jack Hayford, Creflo Dollar (I seriously doubt he said you would go to hell if you don't believe Jesus was rich).  Kenneth & Gloria Copeland, Joyce Myers, and Jerry Seville.

They each are experts in the area that God has called them to.  He did not call everyone to do what they do, but He did call them to it.

To Help Me Learn: Ask God to show you who to watch and then do what God says.

Most on this site who don't like these people, don't like them because they do not understand what is being said.  And they fear what they do not understand. :holy:

God said, "My people perish for lack of knowledge"   :(

[camaro540]

Is the Trinity Broadcasting Network anointed?



Anointed of Satan? Yes.

Anointed from God? No!

[ZiSunka]

I think that something that is annointed of God would be a lot better and more creative than TBN. The shows are awful, poorly written and poorly produced, and some of the teaching is from outspace, not the Bible.

When did Jesus ever have to go to hell and wrestle with the devil to get him to let saved souls out of hell? Yet, I've heard that preached on TBN as if it were true!

I know a couple Christians who write TV shows, who want to do quality work and would love to write for TBN. Why doesn't TBN hire them to do some quality work?

[SpiritPsalmist]

Originally posted by lambslove

When did Jesus ever have to go to hell and wrestle with the devil to get him to let saved souls out of hell? Yet, I've heard that preached on TBN as if it were true!



 

Let me first say that I am NOT defending this doctrine one way or the other, so I don't want to be jumped all over. But. . . TBN is not the only Christian group preaching it.  It is written in the Apostles Creed as well.  Attached is an article I copied from Christianity Today, that I thought made some interesting points.

And in regards to all the TBN bashing.  You all may feel pretty foolish when you see these fellow brothers and sisters in Heaven.  We are specificilly instructed in the Bible not to bite and devour one another.  Yet, you do this to people you don't even know.  Nor have you sat down with any of them and asked any questions regarding things you dissagree with.  Shame. :(

Anyway, here's the article: see next post

Good Question: Did Jesus Really Descend to Hell?
<B>In the Apostles' Creed, there is a statement about Jesus descending into hell. Did he literally go there?—DEBRA BLACK, Alton, Illinois</B>

Each Sunday, millions of Christians around the world recite the Apostles' Creed, including that statement: "I believe that Jesus…descended into hell." Yet a few years back at one Christian college, a series of chapel messages on the Apostles' Creed had to omit this item, because none of the 12 professors of Bible and theology believed it.

Actually the statement is not found in the earliest form of the Apostles' Creed. It echoes Acts 2:31, and seems to be there simply to make the point that Jesus' death was real and complete. Jesus went to <I>hades</I>, which in the Greek signifies the world of the departed—paradise for some, pain for others. When the Apostles' Creed took its English form in the sixteenth century, "hell" meant hades as such, rather than the final state of the lost (which Jesus called gehenna), as it always is today. So, should those who accept the Bible as their supreme authority for belief hold to the Creed's doctrine on this point?

Scripture tells us very little about Jesus' state between his death and resurrection. The most commonly cited biblical passages are Acts 2:31; Ephesians 4:8-10; 1 Peter 4:6; and, most importantly, 1 Peter 3:18-20.

Ephesians 4 is likely a reference to the Incarnation, and 1 Peter 4:6 could apply to any preaching of the gospel. But numerous interpretations of 1 Peter 3:18-20 exist. Some say the 1 Peter 3 passage should not be taken literally—that it is symbolic, conveying in graphic form the idea that redemption is universal in its extent. This, however, involves a more spiritualized hermeneutic than usually practiced by evangelicals.

Others contend that this refers to a descent by Jesus into the realm of the dead between his death and resurrection, and an actual preaching to its occupants, either offering salvation to them or declaring his own triumph over death and judgment upon those who in their earthly life did not respond to God. This interpretation, however, seems in conflict with the rest of Jesus' life and ministry—and with the context of the passage, which emphasizes a faithful, gentle witness, giving a reason for one's faith, even in the face of opposition (vv. 15-17).

At the same time, the non-literal interpretation has difficulty accounting adequately for the reference to Noah (v. 20), unless the preaching was restricted only to people from Noah's time, which seems strange. It also appears to conflict with the theological context, or how our interpretation fits with other, more clearly established doctrines. Here we encounter biblical references teaching the finality of death over and against any opportunity for salvation, at least since the time of Christ.

Many consider the parable of the rich man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31) pertinent to the question, as are much of Psalm 49 and Revelation 20:11-15. Hebrews 9:27 indicates a close linkage between death and judgment, with nothing mentioned as intervening. And Jesus' statement to the thief on the cross—"today you will be with me in paradise" (Luke 23:42,43)—also is relevant.

One other interpretation, held by Augustine and defended strongly by several evangelicals, seems more promising. In this view, Christ preached "in spirit" through Noah as Noah built the ark. This was a message of repentance and righteousness, given to unbelieving people who were then on earth but now are "spirits in prison" (i.e., in hell).

While this reference to spirits in prison is not completely natural, this view fits better with the other considerations. It also is supported by 1 Peter 1:10-12, which speaks of the Spirit of Christ in the prophets who spoke. While none of the interpretations is totally without difficulty, one might conclude that this is the most adequate reading of the relevant data.

Robert Mounce, in his commentary <I>Living Hope</I>, says that the 1 Peter 3:18-20 passage is "widely recognized as perhaps the most difficult to understand in all of the New Testament." Even if one holds that Jesus did descend into hell to offer salvation to those who had lived on earth before him, this special effort does not apply to those who lived and died later.

There is one thing of which we can be certain: Jesus' death was a <I>literal</I> event, not some temporary state of unconsciousness. Hence, in his resurrection, Christ did indeed conquer death—both in its spiritual and physical forms.

Bible-believing Christians can allow themselves to differ on the nature of Jesus' descent into hell. Some will be able to recite this part of the Apostles' Creed with conviction, while others may choose to remain silent.

<I><B>ttp://www.baylor.edu/~seminary/bios/erickson.html"&gt;Millard J. Erickson (_blank href=")</B> is Distinguished Professor of Theology at Truett Theological Seminary, Baylor University.</I>

[camaro540]

Originally posted by Quaffer

And in regards to all the TBN bashing.&nbsp; You all may feel pretty foolish when you see these fellow brothers and sisters in Heaven.&nbsp; We are specificilly instructed in the Bible not to bite and devour one another.&nbsp; Yet, you do this to people you don't even know.&nbsp; Nor have you sat down with any of them and asked any questions regarding things you dissagree with.&nbsp; Shame. :(


Unless these people fall on their faces and repent for they're Baal worship, I will not see them in Heaven.

Your right, the borthers and sisters in Christ Jesus are suppose up lift each other, but we are to also correct one another when we need it.

I don't know them? Are you kidding me? Oh, I know them, and they are of they're father the Devil. Jesus said that we (His followers) would know them (Baal worshippers) by they're fruit. He also warned us (His followers) that:

Many shall come in my name, and say that I am Christ; and shall decieve many.

TBN has decieved thousands of people, and I for one am not going to stand for it.

[MizDoulos]

Please Note: Regardless of your views of TBN, let's not turn them into bashing this network (Rule 2). Do read the forum rules and proceed to obey them. If this thread continues to deteriorate, it will be closed.

Thank you.

[Loser For Jesus]

For what its worth, I understand why a warning has been issued, but I pretty much agree with everything camaro540 wrote. I won't add anything to it, though, in case this deteriorates further.

love in Christ,
Malcolm

[Susan]

I'm sorry then. I just wanted to warn you. . .I didn't want to be meanspirited or anything. . . :sorry: :bow:

[sola fide]

Mark 16:18 "...and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them..."

Many teachers on TBN would apply that scripture to their faith teachings, but TBN is the only reason I've ever seen a chance for it to be applied to my life.
TBN poisoned me upon my receiving Christ. It poisoned my views of doctrine and my Christian walk. I'm still having to fight with many of the heretical views I accepted due to my watching that station. My testimony of TBN is this, stay away from it. I'll admit, I still turn it on occasionally, but it serves more to provoke me to wrath than to edify me.
Of course if you want to listen to people who have been known to falsly prophecy- such as kim clement or juanita bynum, it would be a great station. Or if you want to listen to benny hinn tell you that catherine kulman was the greatest preacher who ever lived, or hear him prophesy that Jesus Christ himself is going to appear in the flesh on the platform with him in nirobe(sp), Kenya...then by all means it's a great station.
I don't deny that the station has probably been used by God to bring many to Christ, but God can speak through donkies, whales, and blazing foliage for that matter. My advice is stay away, stay away, stay away...find yourself a good a.m. radio station, like the bott radio network.

Soli Deo gloria!

[sola fide]

Sorry, didn't realize their were that many replies in this thread, I'm not trying to bash tbn, just to encourage people to avoid it.

[ZiSunka]

And in regards to all the TBN bashing. You all may feel pretty foolish when you see these fellow brothers and sisters in Heaven. We are specificilly instructed in the Bible not to bite and devour one another. Yet, you do this to people you don't even know. Nor have you sat down with any of them and asked any questions regarding things you dissagree with. Shame.

Pointing our its obvious flaws is not saying that the people who watch it are going to hell. I'm simply saying that the shows are low-quality, cheaply produced, and many of them are of questionable theology and questionable value. I don't think anyone could rationally argue with that. Stating the truth is not a sin.

[Susan]

AMEN Lambslove -^.^-

[Andrew]

so why dont the critics quit complaining and bashing and come up with something better?

[LouisBooth]

"so why dont the critics quit complaining and bashing and come up with something better?"

Umm..we have started to, in Texas, its a radio station called KSBJ. :) We are not to stop watching against false teachers though.

[Andrew]

Once's there's a "better" network, those who cant take TBN can quit murmuring and watch it, and those who like TBN can continue watching it, minus the noise.

[Chloe]

TBN teaches unbiblical and&nbsp;unsound&nbsp;doctrine.&nbsp;&nbsp; Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Joyce Meyer, Paul and Jan Crouch, Bob Larson, Rod Parsley, etc are false teachers.&nbsp; They not only teach false views on basic biblical doctrine, they preach another gospel, the gospel of health and wealth and holy laughter, not the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

The only program&nbsp;that teaches biblical truth, is Day 7 with Greg Laurie, that's if it's still on TBN.&nbsp; Other than that,&nbsp;Bible believing Christians&nbsp; should avoid it like the plague.

[MizDoulos]

There has been plenty of opinions expressed about TBN, echoing the same sentiments for the most part on these four pages. While stating the truth is one matter, putting down TBN as a group over and over again is breaking Rule 2. We must be fair to all.

Since I don't see any further benefit of leaving the thread open, it is being closed.