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daverain
4th October 2005, 03:46 PM
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Considering:
In Matthew 22:24,
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The Pharisees talk to Jesus about
a man who had to marry his brother's-wife,
because his brother had died, and that Moses tells us to,
and that...
Jesus does -NOT- rebuke the Pharisees,
by telling them that it's wrong,
(=to marry your brother's wife if he dies)
my question to you is:
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Are -WE- (=today),
supposed to marry our brother's wife,
if he dies?
Please explain why, or why not.
(I'll give you my-own opinion later.)
Peace in Christ,
daverain.
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Quantos
4th October 2005, 03:52 PM
He had to marry his brothers wife because he died WITH no Children.
Reazzurro90
4th October 2005, 03:54 PM
No, I don't think it's necessary in modern times, because there is no longer the huge importance on the extension of the family line and having kids as there was at that time.
New_Wineskin
4th October 2005, 03:55 PM
Since the word "we" was involved in the question and *I* am not under such a requirement , I chose "no" .
contriteheart
4th October 2005, 06:02 PM
daverain,
Do you by any chance come from a chuch of Christ background?
With love in Christ,
Grace
daverain
4th October 2005, 06:06 PM
daverain,
Do you by any chance come from a chuch of Christ background?
With love in Christ,
Grace
If you're referring to a building with that particular name on it, the answer is
-NO- .
I'm taught from God, -NOT- mankind.
(Paul says something similar to this, at the start of Galatians)
Peace in Christ.
contriteheart
4th October 2005, 06:09 PM
Nope.
Okay, thanks. The way you asked the question just reminded me of the way I've heard some CoC folks look at things, hermeneutically speaking.
And now, back to our regularly scheduled thread already in progress...
With love in Christ,
Grace
daverain
4th October 2005, 06:17 PM
No, I don't think it's necessary in modern times, because there is no longer the huge importance on the extension of the family line and having kids as there was at that time.
Ah, BUT...
The Bible -COMMANDS- us to do it.
Are you implying that commandments of God...
can be ignored on the basis of our feelings?
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daverain
4th October 2005, 06:20 PM
He had to marry his brothers wife because he died WITH no Children.
My brother has no children.
Do -YOU- feel that I should marry his wife if he dies?
Peace in Christ.
contriteheart
4th October 2005, 06:22 PM
My answer would be this:
Marrying one's brother's wife was a part of the Mosaic Law. Christ fulfilled the Law perfectly in His earthly life. The only law applicabe to Christians today is what the NT variously calls the law of love or the perfect law of liberty - that is to love the Lord with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself. The entire OT Law is contained within these two commands. This can only be done by the grace of Christ.
Also, in response to the Judaizers who were troubling the newly-Christian Gentiles, the council of the apostles in Jerusalem (mentioned in the book of Acts) said nothing about a requirement for the Gentiles to marry a deceased brother's wife. The things they did ask the Gentiles to do were acts of consideration for their Hebrew Christian brethren, who were sometimes becoming offended by the liberty of the Gentiles. Commanding the Gentile Christians to refrain from certain practices was putting into practice the law of love.
I guess if you think that under the law of love, the most loving thing can do for your brother or your widowed sister-in-law is to marry her, then go for it - that is, if she will have you! ;) But don't do it because you think you should somehow do it to keep the Mosaic law. Otherwise, I hope you've got a temple and a whole bunch of cattle, doves, and etc., 'cause if you're gonna' try to be justified by keeping part, you're gonna' have to keep it all...
My 2 cents (well, actually 1 cent adjusted for inflation...);)
With love in Christ,
Grace
contriteheart
4th October 2005, 06:40 PM
PS: I know this is hypothetical, but would there a big insurance settlement involved? ;)
Godslilflutterby
4th October 2005, 07:31 PM
My answer would be this:
Marrying one's brother's wife was a part of the Mosaic Law. Christ fulfilled the Law perfectly in His earthly life. The only law applicabe to Christians today is what the NT variously calls the law of love or the perfect law of liberty - that is to love the Lord with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself. The entire OT Law is contained within these two commands. This can only be done by the grace of Christ.
Also, in response to the Judaizers who were troubling the newly-Christian Gentiles, the council of the apostles in Jerusalem (mentioned in the book of Acts) said nothing about a requirement for the Gentiles to marry a deceased brother's wife. The things they did ask the Gentiles to do were acts of consideration for their Hebrew Christian brethren, who were sometimes becoming offended by the liberty of the Gentiles. Commanding the Gentile Christians to refrain from certain practices was putting into practice the law of love.
I guess if you think that under the law of love, the most loving thing can do for your brother or your widowed sister-in-law is to marry her, then go for it - that is, if she will have you! ;) But don't do it because you think you should somehow do it to keep the Mosaic law. Otherwise, I hope you've got a temple and a whole bunch of cattle, doves, and etc., 'cause if you're gonna' try to be justified by keeping part, you're gonna' have to keep it all...
My 2 cents (well, actually 1 cent adjusted for inflation...);)
With love in Christ,
Grace
I think that your answer here was the BEST answer. I know if I was married and my hunny died, I wouldn't want to marry his brother just because I didn't have any kids with him. I think marriage is far more important than to keep a last name going. But if I fell in love with the brother then so be it!;)
daverain
5th October 2005, 02:57 PM
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My answer would be this:
Marrying one's brother's wife was a part of the Mosaic Law. Christ fulfilled the Law perfectly in His earthly life. The only law applicabe to Christians today is what the NT variously calls the law of love or the perfect law of liberty - that is to love the Lord with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself. The entire OT Law is contained within these two commands. This can only be done by the grace of Christ.
Also, in response to the Judaizers who were troubling the newly-Christian Gentiles, the council of the apostles in Jerusalem (mentioned in the book of Acts) said nothing about a requirement for the Gentiles to marry a deceased brother's wife. The things they did ask the Gentiles to do were acts of consideration for their Hebrew Christian brethren, who were sometimes becoming offended by the liberty of the Gentiles. Commanding the Gentile Christians to refrain from certain practices was putting into practice the law of love.
I guess if you think that under the law of love, the most loving thing can do for your brother or your widowed sister-in-law is to marry her, then go for it - that is, if she will have you! ;) But don't do it because you think you should somehow do it to keep the Mosaic law. Otherwise, I hope you've got a temple and a whole bunch of cattle, doves, and etc., 'cause if you're gonna' try to be justified by keeping part, you're gonna' have to keep it all...
My 2 cents (well, actually 1 cent adjusted for inflation...);)
With love in Christ,
Grace
I like the above answer,
however...
Christians are -NOT- under The Law (Galatians 3:10) , but under grace.
When Jesus spoke of loving God with all your heart, and your neighbor as yourself, it was -STILL- the -OLD COVENANT-.
Christ hadn't yet died as a sacrifice, and The Holy Spirit had -NOT- yet been poured forth upon all mankind.
That happened at Pentecost (in Acts), giving us The New Covenant, where GOD (our teacher) 'writes His law upon our hearts' .
So...
My heart tells me that 'a man shall leave his father, and mother, and the two shall become one-flesh' , and that true-marriage happens when -BOTH- love each other, and consumate.
Thanks (to everyone),
Peace in Christ.
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