Why it is a bad idea to take a verse out of content.

[Akathist]

Why it is unwise to take one bible verse out of content:

Psalm 73:13 (The Message)

I've been stupid to play by the rules;
what has it gotten me?


(And use a bad translation too.)

This was so funny I thought I would share it with you.

[HandmaidenOfGod]

When you look at the NKJV version you can see how wacky the "Message" translation is:

Psalm 73:13 (New King James Version)

"Surely I have cleansed my heart in vain,
And washed my hands in innocence."

It looks like two completely different Psalms when you compare the two!

Lord have mercy on us! :crosseo:

~M

[moses916]

John 10:30
"I and the Father are one."


The Message:
"I and the Father are one heart and mind."

[U R my Sonshine]

Yeah....that is pretty bad. hmmmm.

[Matrona]

Oh, my personal favorite is the "Good as New" abomilation* that recounts the Father's words at Christ's baptism as, "That's my boy! You're doing fine!"

*My new portmanteau combining "abomination" and "translation". :D

[Monica, child of God]

Oh, my personal favorite is the "Good as New" abomilation* that recounts the Father's words at Christ's baptism as, "That's my boy! You're doing fine!"

:eek: That is truly terrible.

M.

[Xpycoctomos]

Oh, my personal favorite is the "Good as New" abomilation* that recounts the Father's words at Christ's baptism as, "That's my boy! You're doing fine!"


I've never heard anything so... stupid. :eek:

[Mary of Bethany]

Oh, my personal favorite is the "Good as New" abomilation* that recounts the Father's words at Christ's baptism as, "That's my boy! You're doing fine!"

:doh: Oy! I wish I thought you were making that up!

Mary

[Happy Orthodox]

That's the dogtail and the ears coming up, as one Saint said that the Bible is like a mosaic, and if you arrange peices in one way, you get an image of Christ, in another way, a picture of a dog. For those that can't understand the danger (and say that the perfect God could not possibly give us an imperfect book, like it fell off the sky), I could point at a verse in the beginning of the Gospels of Luke and Matthew, where Christ was tempted by the devil. The devil was using the VERSES FROM THE HOLY SCRIPTURE!!! The key was that he did not put them in the right context, and made the verses give a totally different and horribly wrong message! What if Jesus didn't respond to that crafty use of the Bible? Or what if the devil asked somebody else the same questions? Think about it!

(Edit: the verses are Matthew 4:6 and Luke 4:9-12).

[Matrona]

:doh: Oy! I wish I thought you were making that up!

Mary
I wish I were, too, but here it is at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1903816734/qid=1128461228/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-8146886-8078251?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

[DivineFiliation]

dumb question... what Bible to Easter Orthodox use?

[e=mv^2]

Heh....try grabbing a random verse out of Song of Solomon! Yeeeow!

[knee-v]

dumb question... what Bible to Easter Orthodox use?
To my knowledge, there is no "official translation". In our liturgy (at my particular parish) we often use the NKJV and/or RSV. My bishop doesn't like us to use the New Jerusalem Bible or the NRSV, or other "inclusive language" versions. But as I said, there is no official version that we use.

[knee-v]

Also don't forget the verse, "There is no God".

[MariaRegina]

I had to read THE MESSAGE for my class in Religious Science 160 at the university.

First I read the NKJV and then I read the message, otherwise, I could not understand what the Message was saying.

He really seems to misunderstand Who the Trinity is. One God. Three Divine Persons.

[Vasya Davidovich]

Also don't forget the verse, "There is no God".
You can use the Bible to proof-text atheism? Bonus!

What's the chapter and verse?

-Vasya.

[Akathist]

Proverbs 30:1 (The Message)

1The skeptic swore, "There is no God! No God!-I can do anything I want!

Proverbs 30:1-2 (New King James Version)

New King James Version (http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/?action=getVersionInfo&vid=50) (NKJV)
The Wisdom of Agur

1 The words of Agur the son of Jakeh, his utterance. This man declared to Ithiel—to Ithiel and Ucal:

2 Surely I am more stupid than any man,
And do not have the understanding of a man.

[Akathist]

Psalm 74:1 (The Message)

You walked off and left us, and never looked back. God, how could you do that?
We're your very own sheep; how can you stomp off in anger?


:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

[Vasya Davidovich]

I'm kind of curious as to how they mangled Psalm 23, The Lord's Prayer, and God's naming of Himself to Moses (commonly rendered as "I Am that I Am", although I understand the Greek to read "I, I am the Being One.") ... ?

Thorny Grace?

[Akathist]

THis is the same bible version that talks about Jesus moving past the people with caseroles to raise Lazereth from the dead. They are applying contemporary delusions of God in which He is anthromorphized... man creating God in his/her image.

It is also part of the plot against Truth. (But don't let "them" know I squeeled on "them".)

[Vasya Davidovich]

THis is the same bible version that talks about Jesus moving past the people with caseroles to raise Lazereth from the dead. They are applying contemporary delusions of God in which He is anthromorphized... man creating God in his/her image.

It is also part of the plot against Truth. (But don't let "them" know I squeeled on "them".)
Casseroles???!!!

Let me guess... some genius thought to himself, "Oh, they don't weep and wail at funerals any more. What do they do? ... :scratch: Aha! :idea: I have it! Casseroles!"


:doh:

[knee-v]

You can use the Bible to proof-text atheism? Bonus!

What's the chapter and verse?

-Vasya.

"There is no God" Psalm 14:1 and 53:1

[Ragamuffins]

The Message is awful.

[Matrona]

"There is no God" Psalm 14:1 and 53:1
What version is this?

[Akathist]

What version is this?

Each version I tested showed that this is a few words within a verse not a full verse itself. So, here is proof one should not take words out of content within verses too.

[MariaRegina]

The fool says in his heart, "there is no God."

Isn't that the whole reason for April Fools Day. :D

[Michael the Iconographer]

Why it is unwise to take one bible verse out of content:

Psalm 73:13 (The Message)

I've been stupid to play by the rules;
what has it gotten me?


(And use a bad translation too.)

This was so funny I thought I would share it with you.

You make a good point. This can also be applied to iconography. Those who are not trained in the matter should not be attempting to write icons or teach anything doctrinally on them because if you don't understand the fullness of the canons of iconography you could easily be led innocently astray. Thank you for this post.

[Akathist]

Psalm 75:6For promotion cometh neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south.

[Llauralin]

Psalm 75:6For promotion cometh neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south.
Promotion???


4Even when the way goes through

Death Valley,

I'm not afraid
I'm not afraid either... that's what ari conditioning is for...



Vasya, if you're still wondering, here's the new Lord's prayer:

2So he said, "When you pray, say,

Father,

Reveal who you are.

Set the world right.

3Keep us alive with three square meals.

4Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others.

Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil." :crossrc:

Can anyone explain just howKeep us forgiven with you and forgiving others is clearer than "forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors?"


And
10For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

Is magically transformed into:

10"Don't bargain with God. Be direct. Ask for what you need. This is not a cat-and-mouse, hide-and-seek game we're in."

:sigh: :doh:

[Akathist]

Wow that last translation of Luke 11 is making my heart hurt!

Holy Trinity forgive us!

[knee-v]

What version is this?
Every version that I've ever read.

[Akathist]

Joel, I like your signature. It reminds me of this quote:

"There are three people in the world: those who can count and those who can't."

[Akathist]

Joshua 24:19 (New King James Version)

New King James Version (http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/?action=getVersionInfo&vid=50) (NKJV)

19 But Joshua said to the people, “You cannot serve the LORD, for He is a holy God. He is a jealous God; He will not forgive your transgressions nor your sins.

[pjw]

ouch. i didn't know the message was that bad!
Father, forgive them.