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IvanOng
2nd October 2005, 11:49 AM
From its expressions and actions, its so much like humans, just that they couldn't talk. Any1 here can explain the definition of having soul and spirit?

PorcelainHeart
2nd October 2005, 01:51 PM
Everything has a soul, dogs, plants and birds. If it breathes, feels and moves it has a soul, even though most christians will tell you most animals don't have a soul. I do know the bible says only we have souls, I just don't believe it.

twistedsketch
2nd October 2005, 08:43 PM
I for one do not believe it, since man is the focus of the Bible and God created us seperately from the animals. I love my dog, but Christianity can't really apply to him. I can tell him to sit but I can't make him understand the Gospel message. I leave plants and animals to God, who created them.

Oh and Marmaladegirl22, I don't mean this as an attack, but you would do very well to believe the Bible and only the Bible. This is because there are lies out there and the Liar can hurt you very deeply. He successfully put me into a deep depression and a good many people thought I was going crazy. What I was believing made a lot of sense, but it was not Biblical and not true. Yet I was continuing to hurt myself and letting the devil hurt me because it all seemed so right. But I found life, I rediscovered the truth, and God helped me to believe what was true & I hardened myself to what was false. I know first hand that lies can enslave you, but the truth can set you free.

PorcelainHeart
3rd October 2005, 12:22 AM
I know, but I kinda of have a different belief then most christians. I use to read the bible and go to church until I felt like what is the point. I met so many bad christians I was turned off by religion. I basically put the bible away and I hardly go to church, only because I'm sick of hypocrites. I know what the bible says, I know all about Jesus. I'm just not into organize religion anymore. I have my own personal relationship with GOD and it works fine, I feel his spirit truly in my life. I might not read the bible anymore or go to church, but I still talk to GOD and pray. He knows my great love for animals, and I feel he will let me have my pet in Heaven if I go.

IvanOng
3rd October 2005, 06:54 AM
Well I know the focus is on humans, but the bible didn't mention about any animal like dogs having souls.. Im curious... The only differences between humans and dogs arent just intelligence and appearance?

What's the meaning of having soul and spirit?? To be able to worship God?

Adstar
3rd October 2005, 08:45 AM
Well I know the focus is on humans, but the bible didn't mention about any animal like dogs having souls.. Im curious... The only differences between humans and dogs arent just intelligence and appearance?

What's the meaning of having soul and spirit?? To be able to worship God?

The differences between animals and people are what they are. Whatever the case we can trust that God will do what is right. Animals will be a part of Jesus's kingdom. scriptures says:

Isaiah 11

The Reign of Jesse’s Offspring

1 There shall come forth a Rod from the stem of Jesse,
And a Branch shall grow out of his roots.
2 The Spirit of the LORD shall rest upon Him,
The Spirit of wisdom and understanding,
The Spirit of counsel and might,
The Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD.
3 His delight is in the fear of the LORD,
And He shall not judge by the sight of His eyes,
Nor decide by the hearing of His ears;
4 But with righteousness He shall judge the poor,
And decide with equity for the meek of the earth;
He shall strike the earth with the rod of His mouth,
And with the breath of His lips He shall slay the wicked.
5 Righteousness shall be the belt of His loins,
And faithfulness the belt of His waist.
6 “ The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb,
The leopard shall lie down with the young goat,
The calf and the young lion and the fatling together;
And a little child shall lead them.
7 The cow and the bear shall graze;
Their young ones shall lie down together;
And the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8 The nursing child shall play by the cobra’s hole,
And the weaned child shall put his hand in the viper’s den.
9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain,
For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD
As the waters cover the sea. :)


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

TheListener
4th October 2005, 09:56 PM
Dog's don't have souls. If they did we should be teaching them the Bible.

PorcelainHeart
5th October 2005, 07:39 AM
Mentally retarded people can't accept GOD and they have a soul. Just because you can't read or accept Jesus christ doesn't mean you don't have a soul.

DIVA_for_Christ
5th October 2005, 02:34 PM
From its expressions and actions, its so much like humans, just that they couldn't talk. Any1 here can explain the definition of having soul and spirit?

I will explain the best way I can with what was revealed to me. Every living creature has a soul and a spirit. With that said, every creature does not have the spirit of God dwelling in them, He mandated that for us.

First I will say that our soul is made up from our mind, will and emotions. Our soul will follow whatever is stronger in us between our spirit man and our flesh. Here are some visuals:

This is us as non-believers soul is closed off from spirit of God because we are spiritually dead. Yet our soul is being controlled by our flesh and Satan has full access to us.

God
Spirit
(soul)
Flesh
Satan


This is us as a new Christian. Our soul is now opened up to the spirit of God and our flesh. This is where the warfare really gets crazy and a whole lot of confusion, doubts, etc. takes places. One minute you can believe your saved, the next minute you doubt everything about God. It's a back and fourth fight. Through persistance and consistence in our seeking God we get stronger and our soul stops listening to the flesh.



God
Spirit
(soul)
Flesh
Satan



This is us as mature Christians, one who is moving from glory to glory with God. We still are tempted by Satan but our soul knows the right thing to do because we close the door to the flesh. Do we still act out by being disobedient from time to time, yes, becasue we are human and none of us are perfect. However, when we mess up we repent and move on. We continue to seek the things of God and our soul is lead by the spirit. We have doubts from time to time about God doing what He said but we hold onto our faith because of all of the experiences with Him we've already had. He has revealed Himself to us so much that there is no denying who He is.



God
Spirit
(soul)
Flesh
Satan



Hope I helped!

TheListener
5th October 2005, 08:12 PM
Mentally retarded people can't accept GOD and they have a soul. Just because you can't read or accept Jesus christ doesn't mean you don't have a soul.

We're talking about dogs not mentally retarded people. ;)

Live2Worship
7th October 2005, 03:55 PM
I know, but I kinda of have a different belief then most christians. I use to read the bible and go to church until I felt like what is the point. I met so many bad christians I was turned off by religion. I basically put the bible away and I hardly go to church, only because I'm sick of hypocrites. I know what the bible says, I know all about Jesus. I'm just not into organize religion anymore. I have my own personal relationship with GOD and it works fine, I feel his spirit truly in my life. I might not read the bible anymore or go to church, but I still talk to GOD and pray. He knows my great love for animals, and I feel he will let me have my pet in Heaven if I go.

All I can say is you are headed down a dangerous path. By seperating your self from christian fellowship and not reading God's word for us you are making yourself an easy target for Satan.

As for hypocrites, Christianity is not about eligon, it is about having a relationship with God through Jesus, religon is not a representation of God but of man''s pathetic attempt to 'do some of the work himself"!

Only God can save us, leave the hypocrites to themselves!

PorcelainHeart
7th October 2005, 09:14 PM
I already know I'm on a bad path, I just can't get into the whole religion thing. Plus, I can't seem to get into the bible. I basically worship GOD and Jesus in my own way. I don't think I have to have a name for my beliefs.