Yeshua under the Law

[Iollain]

God had a plan before the world began, through foreknowledge, that His Son would be human, same humans that were under the curse of Adam, Jesus died however death could not hold Him. The Saviour had to come through Adam's line because it was Adam that separated us from God by eating the one thing that God had told him not to, Adam and all his are doomed to death. But death could not hold Jesus and in Him we will be resurrected to a life of eternity.

Now i know that this has something to do with the Law but i can't think of what it would be.........

Someone who follows God's Law perfectly is sinless but still in need of a Saviour because the Law could not save?

[visionary]

Isaiah 33:22 For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.James 4:12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

[Iollain]

Heya Vis, i don't know what your trying to say there.

What if the Jews were not given God's Law, could Yeshua still come and be the Saviour?

[Vaneeza Malkah]

Perhaps His will was done and He came at the right time in which He chose :)

[DrMcDonald]

James 4:12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

And
PSALMS 89:18 For the L-RD is our defence; and the Holy One of Israel is our king.

What if the Jews were not given God's Law, could Yeshua still come and be the Saviour?

Well first off HaShem gave the Laws to the Children of Yisra'el, and to those who sojourned with them. As he did with Yeshua;

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Moshiach: for it is the power of G-d unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Romans 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

Romans 2:10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

It is hard for me to fathom, HaShem not giving His law to Yisra'el, but I guess it was possible.

As far as Yeshua comming for the pagan nations, anything is possible with HaShem.

Mark 9:23 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things [are] possible to him that believeth.

Any who, that is how I see it. :)

[Iollain]

Yeah i suppose He could have come from a pagan nation as everything He said He heard from the Father.

[talmidim]

Yeah i suppose He could have come from a pagan nation as everything He said He heard from the Father.Then you would be wrong. If, as you say,"everything He said He heard from the Father", then where He came was directed by the Father too. Remember also, that everything He DID (keep Torah) was blameless before the Father.

[Iollain]

Your talking over my head, can you explain that more Talmidim?