Scared of other christians

[PorcelainHeart]

I am a christian myself, but I'm scared of most christians now. I had a really bad experience with one of them, she was calling my comments stupid and all this crap. She abused me with words, and really hurt me. I am now scared to talk to other christians, I feel that they are all bent on hell, bible and GOD. I just wish I could find a christian who won't judge me or treat me like I don't know anything. I have met too many mean christians lately, I don't know anymore if I want to be one.

[snoochface]

I'm sorry for the way you were treated. I followed a little bit in the thread I think you are referring to, and I didn't feel you were treated right there.

Just keep in mind that as Christians, we are going to be "bent on" the Bible and God. Those are the basics - God especially, because if we're not bent on him, then why are we calling ourselves Christians? Know what I mean?

But please don't think about writing off Christianity because of your experiences with judgemental and mean people. Those people are wrong to behave that way. I'm wrong to behave the way I do a lot of the time. All Christians sin, just like every other human beings on the face of the earth, but the great thing about that is that we are forgiven for our sins. I know it's easier said than done, but it would be great if we all were able to forgive each other the way God forgives us.

There are a lot of loving and compassionate Christians who would never think to be mean to you or anyone else. There are tons of them here on CF. The problem with conversing in a debate forum like Eschatology is that people have very strong opinions and tend to let their feelings get in the way sometimes. It's a lot easier to do that online than it is in person - that whole anonymity thing. Please don't be discouraged by that.

This is a great forum with a lot of very helpful people. I'm sure there are many who would be more than happy to talk with you about your experiences. Feel free to PM me if you'd like. :hug:

[californiadreamin]

I am a christian myself, but I'm scared of most christians now. I had a really bad experience with one of them, she was calling my comments stupid and all this crap. She abused me with words, and really hurt me. I am now scared to talk to other christians, I feel that they are all bent on hell, bible and GOD. I just wish I could find a christian who won't judge me or treat me like I don't know anything. I have met too many mean christians lately, I don't know anymore if I want to be one.

I recently had a dream and also God was speaking to me about this. He revealed to me that many who call themselves Christians are not walking in love and they are not rooted in Him. They inwardly and outwardly have no true value about what it is to be a child of God.

[PorcelainHeart]

I'm not saying all christians are bad, I just don't like to be force into someone's belief or the bible thrown at me. I do know what the bible says I just don't understand most of it, and I am giving so many different answers when I ask what it means. I also been told by some christians you can do anything you want since your save, you just need to ask for forgivness. I also got in a fight with a christian who doesn't like animals, she thought I was threating her because I said I prefer animals over humans, I was saying that because I'm upset with most people right now. I do love animals though, and I feel they do have a soul, but I'm told by so many christians that I am wrong. I'm just really lost and confused on the christian beliefs, as that woman said I'm a baby of christ. I know I'm young on being a christian, and don't know much. I also look into other beliefs in such. I do know most people become athiest or stay athiest because of some christians. I will stay away from the debate threads now. I been told so many things different, I'm so confused.

[Adstar]

I'm not saying all christians are bad, I just don't like to be force into someone's belief or the bible thrown at me. I do know what the bible says I just don't understand most of it, and I am giving so many different answers when I ask what it means. I also been told by some christians you can do anything you want since your save, you just need to ask for forgivness. I also got in a fight with a christian who doesn't like animals, she thought I was threating her because I said I prefer animals over humans, I was saying that because I'm upset with most people right now. I do love animals though, and I feel they do have a soul, but I'm told by so many christians that I am wrong. I'm just really lost and confused on the christian beliefs, as that woman said I'm a baby of christ. I know I'm young on being a christian, and don't know much. I also look into other beliefs in such. I do know most people become athiest or stay athiest because of some christians. I will stay away from the debate threads now. I been told so many things different, I'm so confused.

Marmalade you faith is your relationship with God. Your Faith is not your faith in people. If your faith is so affected by other people then it is a warning to you to place your trust in God, Not in people.

Marmalade if your faith is in God then it does not matter if the whole world is against you. Your not relying on people to save you. You are relying on God.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

[snoochface]

The basics of the Christian faith really are, well, basic. ;)

1) Jesus was the son of God
2) He was sent to earth to die in order to save us from our sinfulness
3) He was resurrected after three days

If you believe in those things, believe that Jesus is your savior who died on the cross for your sins, if you are sorry for your sins and want Jesus to enter (or be in) your life to turn your heart away from sinfulness and toward God - then you are a Christian.

All the rest of the "details" are often debated between denominations and worldviews, but for the most part they are unimportant to whether or not you are a saved Christian.

As for the Bible, I'll tell you my personal reason why I think it's important. We all grow up being taught certain things, and we all have our own personal set of beliefs about God, Jesus, religion, etc. But for me, it wasn't enough to be taught something and to believe it just because it's how I was raised. I wanted to know WHY I believed something. I wanted my beliefs to be based on something.

Some people just make stuff up as they go along. They'll say, "Well I don't believe God would do this" or "I don't think a loving God would allow that to happen". But they don't have a solid reason why they feel this way. It's just a feeling, a belief, a notion that isn't based on anything but emotion and instinct. A lot of religions are formed this way, but that doesn't make them true just because they seem to be instinctually based on common emotions or feelings.

The Bible has a lot of evidence for truth in it. There are prophesies in the Old Testament that were fulfilled in the New Testament, hundreds or thousands of years apart. There are things about God and his laws, his requirements, his nature, that go against our human instinct of what God "should" do - but when you delve into it, there are reasons and instructions and warnings right there for us to see. The Bible tells us how God is, what he wants from us, what he's done for us. It tells us how we can get his blessings, how we can love each other better, and the work he wants us to do. It gives us the GOOD NEWS about Jesus and the salvation his death provided us.

I wanted to know about the Bible so that I would have something to base my faith on besides my own emotions, feelings, instincts, and the things other people told me as I was growing up. If I was going to have faith in God, I wanted it to be because I had a good, solid, logical reason for having faith in God. I didn't want to wing it. I wanted to know the truth, and the Bible gives me that.

It IS hard to understand a lot of times. I've only been a Christian for about a year and a half, and I do struggle with a lot of it, especially the Old Testament. I'm lucky that I have some really good teachers at my church that have helped me through Sunday School classes, Bible Studies, and our Home Fellowship Group. I've also found some wonderful (and free) Bible software with some excellent commentaries that help me study and understand on my own.

Marmaladegirl, I know there are people on CF who would be happy to help you understand the Bible better. I'm no expert by any means, but I'm happy to help in any way that I can. The Advice forum and the New Christians forum can help. If there is anything I can do to give you a hand understanding something, I hope you'll feel free to ask. I think it could help clear up a lot of your confusion. :hug:

[Justin761985]

I recently had a dream and also God was speaking to me about this. He revealed to me that many who call themselves Christians are not walking in love and they are not rooted in Him. They inwardly and outwardly have no true value about what it is to be a child of God.

I'm very glad you mentioned this. We as Christians sin and we are forgiven, but I've noticed several at my school claim to be Christian, but by their actions I don't see any proof of it.

You know the tree by the fruit it bares.

God said that many would come in his name and proclaim to be God or know God, and truely not. - this is not worded exactly as the bible puts it.. if someone has the exact scriptures it would good.

Please don't give up on Christianity just b/c you have been done wrong. People are going to judge and hate who you are just b/c the world does not like Christians. God said we are a peculiar people, so we just have to accept that fact, even though it is a very hard thing to do.

God Bless,
Justin.

[twistedsketch]

I'm not saying all christians are bad, I just don't like to be force into someone's belief or the bible thrown at me. I do know what the bible says I just don't understand most of it, and I am giving so many different answers when I ask what it means. I also been told by some christians you can do anything you want since your save, you just need to ask for forgivness. I also got in a fight with a christian who doesn't like animals, she thought I was threating her because I said I prefer animals over humans, I was saying that because I'm upset with most people right now. I do love animals though, and I feel they do have a soul, but I'm told by so many christians that I am wrong. I'm just really lost and confused on the christian beliefs, as that woman said I'm a baby of christ. I know I'm young on being a christian, and don't know much. I also look into other beliefs in such. I do know most people become athiest or stay athiest because of some christians. I will stay away from the debate threads now. I been told so many things different, I'm so confused.
"If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing." - 1 Corinthians 13:2

I wish more believers would take this to heart. There are some Christians out there who like to judge and argue but have no room for compassion. And this is coming from me!

The woman said you were a baby Christian. That's an accurate statement, but did she know you're a NEW Christian? Because you're not going to shame a toddler for not being toilet trained, but most of us WOULD shame an 18 year old who never learned that critical skill. I for one try to go easy on new believers.

[Justin761985]

"The woman said you were a baby Christian. That's an accurate statement, but did she know you're a NEW Christian? Because you're not going to shame a toddler for not being toilet trained, but most of us WOULD shame an 18 year old who never learned that critical skill. I for one try to go easy on new believers.

Interesting thought.

God Bless,
Justin.

[chilehed]

Marmaladegirl22,

I'm so sorry you've been abused this way, and I think it reflects more on whoever did it than on you. There are jerks in every crowd. If it makes you feel any better, I think there's a lot of reason to prefer animals to people (especially abusive people).

And yes, animals have souls. The OT uses three different words for "soul", one meaning animal and vegetative nature (nephesh), one for the ethical nature (nuah), one for purely spiritual intelligence (neshamah). Animals have nephesh.

[Harlan Norris]

I am a christian myself, but I'm scared of most christians now. I had a really bad experience with one of them, she was calling my comments stupid and all this crap. She abused me with words, and really hurt me. I am now scared to talk to other christians, I feel that they are all bent on hell, bible and GOD. I just wish I could find a christian who won't judge me or treat me like I don't know anything. I have met too many mean christians lately, I don't know anymore if I want to be one.Please don't blame Christianity for this phenominon. The legalistic, judgemental group has penetrated to the core of the organised faith. This however has nothing to do with Christ but politics. Stay with your faith. You will find others like yourself. Our salvation depends on Jesus Christ. Cling to him and his Gospel. God bless you.

[PorcelainHeart]

Even though, I read this all I see more christians who upset me so I fall slower out of christianity. Hardly any of them think animals have souls, and it's hard for me to understand that. I really love animals, and I want them to go to Heaven, heck I don't want to go to Heaven without my animals. I just can't live without my dog.

[chilehed]

I'm sure that God will arrange for anything and everything we need to be happy in heaven. Fear not.

[twistedsketch]

Even though, I read this all I see more christians who upset me so I fall slower out of christianity. Hardly any of them think animals have souls, and it's hard for me to understand that. I really love animals, and I want them to go to Heaven, heck I don't want to go to Heaven without my animals. I just can't live without my dog.
Just because a lot of us don't believe that animals have souls, that does not mean that we hate animals. I love my dog too. It's really a natural desire to have your pets be in heaven with you. But however Heaven is going to turn out, there will be no pain so you won't miss them. That means they will either be there or you'll be moving on to bigger, better things.

[PorcelainHeart]

I know, I strongly believe animals and nature have soul. I do think i would miss my pet if I went to heaven, or do I even want to go to heaven? If the bible is right my cousin won't go to Heaven, and I sure don't want her to go to hell. Anyways, I'm sorry if I offended anyone, I'm just very confused, I'm told so many different things by christians.

[snoochface]

I lost my beloved Goober-dog two years ago, and it was devastating to me, so I understand the very strong desire to have her in heaven with me. I believe there is a lot of evidence in the Bible that says this may happen. Every living thing belongs to God, every creature will cry out in worship - these verses refer to more than humans.

There is not agreement among Christians about a lot of things like this, but really there doesn't have to be. It's not what Christianity is based on. You have to have faith in God that heaven will be what he promises it to be - a place of happiness, worship, where our tears will be wiped away by God's own hand.

The Bible is right. The worries you have about your cousin not going to heaven, those worries exist in us so that we will spread the GOOD NEWS to everyone we love, so that they will be able to get into heaven. Not everyone that we love will get there, and that's really sad. But everyone has the free will to make their own choices, and all we can do is try as hard as we can to put them on the right path.

I know you've said in other threads that you don't necessarily believe the Bible, and have your own set of beliefs that keep you in your relationship with God. I just urge you to make sure that your own set of beliefs are based on something solid and real, and not being - pardon the term - "made up" in your own mind because they just seem right, or feel right. The devil can convince us that things "seem" or "feel" right so that he can deceive us. If our beliefs aren't based on the truth, they won't be true no matter how right they may feel. I can believe with all my heart and soul that the sun rises in the west and sets in the east, and no matter how much I believe it, it's not going to be true.

So if your beliefs aren't based on God's word in the Bible, what are they based on? Make sure you're not being deceived, make sure you know all of God's promises to you -- and make sure to keep having faith in his promises. It relieves a lot of worry and anxiety, I know this from experience. It might make it easier for you to not care so much about what other Christians do. When you get right down to it, all Christians are hypocrites, because we all know what we're supposed to do in God's eyes, and not one of us are able to do it all the time. Have faith in God and what the Bible says he promises us, and things will become so much clearer.

[twistedsketch]

If the bible is right my cousin won't go to Heaven, and I sure don't want her to go to hell.
That's why you need to pray for her and tell her about Jesus.

[PorcelainHeart]

My whole family been stir away from Jesus, I come from an athiest and wiccan family. I Never knew much of GOD. I'm going through a hard time right now where I really don't know what to believe anymore. I been through hurricane Rita, and there is alot more forming, so I'm scared to believe in GOD or even be a christian. I'm just scared of everything right now. I need alot of soul searching and help.

[twistedsketch]

I will be praying for you and them then.

[snoochface]

Can you help us target what kind of help you're needing? I know that many of us would be more than happy to help you out, if we just knew what kind of help you are looking for.

Can I ask why you are afraid to believe in God or be a Christian? I know you're going through a very tough time right now, and I understand you are afraid in general - the hurricanes have left a lot of turmoil in their wake. But why do your fears make you afraid to believe in God? He's there, looking after you, and loving you. You went through a horrible time, but you're still alive - by the grace of God. He has plans for you, and he's not abandoning you.

Don't stop believing in him, because it won't change the fact that he does exist, he is in control, and he is with you. :)

[cherokeehippie]

Marmaladegirl22 --I didn't see the other thread you were referring to, I assume it was on the topic of animals going to heaven, I know BIG TIME what you mean about having to deal with other christians who abuse, stern, etc. It makes me mad! I came out of an abusive church some yrs ago. Don't let them get to you. Focus on JEsus and His Love! I beleive very much that there will be animals in Heaven!! Just last year, I ran over a little kitten in my drive way--it was an accident and I was so torn up and crying, and ran over to my neighbor's to help me. I couldn't bear to look at the dead kitten! I let her remove the body for me. Anyway, she bummed me out when,(she was a baptist), said that there was no need to be all torn up about it and that it didn't have a soul.
A few yrs ago, a girl I met told me about how her little brother died. He was very much attached to a little puppy that they had just gotten for him before he died. Well, the week after he died, the puppy died. She had often wondered if the Lord took that puppy so that the puppy would be with her brother in Heaven.
Annie Oakley(who was a christian--from quaker background) believed she would see her dog in Heaven! I read that in one of my books about her.

[FireOfGod]

Not sure if you want to be one anymore? Honey... Remember that you're not a Christian for other people, you're a Christian for Jesus. You're a Christian because it's the Truth, and you love Jesus.

I've known a lot of cold Christians like this. But there will be those kinds of people around. Don't let them get to you. Just be glad that you're not one of them. :)

[PorcelainHeart]

Thanks, I'm just having a problem with the whole christian thing. I used to be a christian but people called me stupid for my beliefs and all kinds of stuff. I felt so horrible that I was judged like that. I basically cried all night because of one woman. Plus, I feel bad because of my learning disablity I can't understand the bible good, some of the words are too big and the text is way too small. I'm very poor and my mom is wiccan and probley wouldn't buy me one. I really don't know anything about religion, I grew up in a athiest and wiccan home. The only religion I got was the Hell and GOD'S revenge. All I remember about church and private school is being yelled at and saying I'll go to hell for all my sins, if I don't repent. I was also taught that GOD is jealous and everything I do, I need to repent. After that I was Agonstic for awhile then took on christianity again until i saw so many mean christians, I got my feelings hurt by them. But now I know I can be a christian, the only one who has a right to judge me is GOD. Some people even go as far as saying I'm leading a path towards satan and that I need all the prayer I get. I don't even do much evil at all, I try to be as sweet as I can.

[snoochface]

If you need a Bible you can read and understand, you can download free (and excellent) Bible software at http://www.e-sword.net - and you can get a ton of commentaries and dictionaries too. It comes with the King James Version, and you can download for free the New King James Version, and versions that have dictionary references to help you better understand the meaning of a word. The commentaries can be very helpful in understanding what certain passages mean. And you can make the text as big as you want because you'll be reading on your computer. I think you might find it helpful, and it's absolutely free. :)

[wis]

Dear Mamaladegirl22 ^_^

First of all, every christian is not perfect. We all still have secret sins in our lives, even some of us appeared to be Godly. The day we are saved is the day God starts to transform us to have characteristics like him. My christian friends hurt me many times by his/her words. However, I think maybe it was my perception that trick me to hate my brothers and sisters in christ. In that time I cried, however, I can forgave them with God's help. The process of forgiving made me feel God's love and His presence. Please see christain as an imperfect person who still in the process of transformation and God have not finished His work in us yet. There is not good-christain and bad-christian in my opinion. There is only the young christian (who needs a lot of God's work in his life) and the adult christian (who grows up in some level but still needs God's work since they stil have some kink of sin esp, erogance) I think God is working that He wants you to know how He forgives you when you forgive others. You will know that God forgives you when you hurt Him with your behavior eventhough His heart is hurt. He always says "I forgive"

The only one who has the right to judge you is God, I totally agree with you. And I think that the only one who has the right to judge other people is God too, not ourselves.

Second, Don't worry that you don't understand all the christian words. The most important thing is that GOD LOVES YOU, AND YOU LOVE GOD. Many christian have lots of knowledge about bible,but they don't have God peace in their heart. God's peace is that you have faith and hope in God and know that God will help you and be with you always even in the midst of heaviest troubles. This is the strength from God. You still need to learn God's words, don't worry.. God and christain brothers, sisters will teach you the meaning of words. Slow but stable and truely growing is much better.

You can see who is godly christian by their changing lives. Many times God transforms a murderer into a caring person. See what God has done in christians' lives and you will know Him much better. I also have problem with my temper, however, I can see that God is working in me. I'm not totally a sweet and caring person. but from other mouth, I become better. That's the way I know that this is only God who works in me and changes me.

In Thailand, there was a tsumami last year. Many of people died. I also doubt why God let this happened. My sister in christ said that we live in the imperfect world. Some diasters came from human. We made the world hot and we made the climate bad. there are consequences. Some diasters are not come from human, it's just the earth cure itself. If it don't cure ifself, there will be the worse diaster. What is important after diaster is that we see lots of help and love from many christian in Thailand. Though we are unable to help them to have good condition as they had before tsunami, we help each other anyway.


God does not only saved us from eternal death after we died,but he also help us in our lives in this world too. I have found God as an answer of my life. He is the only one who can comfort me in my bad time. He gives me new perceptive of life which free me from heavy worry. He teach me to love others although they will definitely don't love me back. I'm still have bad habits and can not love other perfectly. However, I still have hope in God.

Finally, once I cried because I was judge by other christian, but God tells me by His word from one book like " Don't worry of others, No one can move you away from my heart. Keep your eyes on me and you will be free"

I will pray for you that you will truely find God in your life. May He send you a sister in christ to guide you and teach you bible. May God lead you to the church that can nurture you.

Bless
Wis

[PorcelainHeart]

Thank you, you made me feel better.

[LivingInHisLove]

:hug: Just sending you hugs and letting you know I am praying for you!

[PorcelainHeart]

Thank you, thank you. It's nice to meet some sweet christians!

[symphonyb]

I don't take anything anyone says to me on the forums/net to heart.Unless they are face to face with me,their words for me(if markedly harsh) go in one ear and out the other.
To sit and let someone argue with you over your heartfelt beliefs(esp the animal one) is allowing them their day in the sun.I like animals alot more than people--especially wedding consultants.

[ShatteredLife]

I"m scared of other christians too... especially pastors and counselors and people like that. "Leaders" scare me. My advice is... AVOID THEM LIKE THE PLAGUE!

[twistedsketch]

I"m scared of other christians too... especially pastors and counselors and people like that. "Leaders" scare me. My advice is... AVOID THEM LIKE THE PLAGUE!
Why do they scare you?

[PorcelainHeart]

I'm scared of other christians, because most of the ones I met were cruel, judgemental and selfish. Some of them even said I'm evil because my beliefs were different then theirs.

[yellowmongoose]

Remember that a lot of non-christians are cruel, selfish and judgemental as well. However, Christians should definatly not be but they are because they are sinful too (as has been mentioned several times). They definatly have no right to call you evil!! That's just not on at all :mad: ! Only God has that right, as He is perfect etc and only He knows your true Heart for Him. I dunno if these will help but here's some verses that may be useful to think about when someone judges you again:


Matthew 7:1-2;
1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

Romans 2:1-4;
1You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2Now we know that God's judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3So when you, a mere man, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God's judgment? 4Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, tolerance and patience, not realizing that God's kindness leads you toward repentance?

What I mean by think about I mean think along the lines of "They will be judged by God using the same standard" or you could show them the passage. (Just don't want you to think that I'm applying the passages to you and calling you judgemental. I'M NOT.) If you need help then you can give me a shout. :thumbsup:

[blessedhusband]

I keep saying this, christians should memorize I Corinthians13 but not only get it in their mind but in their heart as well! Then put it into practice!

[discernomatic]

Hi Marmalade22,

I agree with wis, this is all between you and God. There are too many judgmental Christians out there who have no sense of God's love and mercy that we are to show others in our daily relationships.

I encourage you to try and find a few mature Christian friends, people you can trust, they don't have to drag you to a church if you don't want to go. They should be able to sympathize with you and understand where you are. They should not be overbearing or manipulative, but sensitive and loving. Try and learn Scripture with them, and don't be afraid to ask questions and express doubts. Don't accept what they say without thoroughly examining Scripture and praying about it. Use your head as well as your heart. If you are discerning, and seek the truth honestly and earnestly, I don't think that you can go wrong ultimately.

I would love to help you directly, but VR has its disadvantages. May God bless you and protect you on your journey toward him sweetie.

discernomatic

[If Not For Grace]

M---:

disc.: is really on point:

find a few mature Christian friends

Just because someone walked down the aisle 10 years ago does not mean they have 10 years of maturity under their belt. Like all children we learn at an individual pace, because of all the diversity attached with religion today we also come around at very diverse angles.

It is about PROGRESS. Also do not forget that anytime you are walking God's path, there will be opposition. 1) The people who say "oh, no, that's wrong"
2) The people who say "oh, no, you can't" 3) The people who say "oh, no, that's crazy". These are always there. Just smile as if you know something they don't (cause it is likely you do) and go on.

The enemy will also make you doubt from within if possible. All the great ones (Moses, Joseph, Peter, Paul, etc) struggled with what God wanted or was out to accomplish. There are good people out there--Seek and You SHALL find (pun intended). PM me anytime you are feeling discouraged, I'm usually good for a laugh or two. LOVE D.

[discernomatic]

Marmalade,

I thought I PMed you the address of a site that may help, but may have gotten confused. Am trying again.... :)

discernomatic

[PorcelainHeart]

hmmm, I got it, thank you very much.

[If Not For Grace]

M:

You know, now that you mention it, I have heard several people express the same type feelings you describe, it is a sad testament to Christ, that some of us behave this way or project this image. After reflection you have given me pause to make sure that I try harder not to be a stumbling block myself. THANKS.

My hubby shed a tear over a cat once and I too thought it was silly to cry over what I thought was a useless (this cat was hateful) critter. It was not really that I changed my opinion, but I should have been more compassionate and comforting due to his loss.

Just this am I caught myself being all huffy and making gestures this morning in traffic and felt all self-righteous and a bunch of silly stuff that when I thought about it I KNEW was not very Christian. This seems small, but how much more self righteous can pious dogmatic people be when (we) are assured we are "right".

I have heard it said that one can be "right" or one can have peace. Today I choose Peace. Thanks again, for bringing something to the forefront that can affect someone in a positive way--see out of the bad comes something good.

[PorcelainHeart]

Well, I was told on here by someone I have no right to call myself a christian because I don't believe the bible is 100% true. I also seen christians tear people apart and it's really sad. This one girl was showing a christian story she was going to write and people would just diss it. I think that is very cruel. I feel we need to be more loving, especially if we are christians. I believe love and kindness is very important I'm told I'm wrong to think that because it's not bibical. :confused:


thanks for the advice.

[discernomatic]

Well, I was told on here by someone I have no right to call myself a christian because I don't believe the bible is 100% true. I also seen christians tear people apart and it's really sad. This one girl was showing a christian story she was going to write and people would just diss it. I think that is very cruel. I feel we need to be more loving, especially if we are christians. I believe love and kindness is very important I'm told I'm wrong to think that because it's not bibical. :confused:
I don't believe the bible is 100% true either, and the Holy Spirit hasn't left me and God still answers my prayers. I have problems with a few verses in the letters. I have been called all sorts of things for that but won't let it phase me.

If you talk to that girl again, tell her just to publish her story anyway, if no one else will do it she can web-publish it herself.

Christians do need to be more loving. Jesus only was angry at the self-righteous Pharisees that felt they were already saved. He was gentle with sinners, those that knew they needed salvation. We need to be gentle with one another, it is scriptural to be loving and compassionate with others. That may not be the gospel message in its entirety, but I think that it is still a part of it. God makes his love for us and his message available through us and others like us. Vessels of clay are filled with the Holy Spirit. Jesus is still here, in each and every Christian through His Holy Spirit if we will only let Him manifest Himself through us. Someone once told me, we might be the only gospel others ever meet.

[FirstStrikeForce]

I am a christian myself, but I'm scared of most christians now. I had a really bad experience with one of them, she was calling my comments stupid and all this crap. She abused me with words, and really hurt me. I am now scared to talk to other christians, I feel that they are all bent on hell, bible and GOD. I just wish I could find a christian who won't judge me or treat me like I don't know anything. I have met too many mean christians lately, I don't know anymore if I want to be one.

Something like a billion or two people on the planet are Christians, or claim to be.

Some 85% of Americans are Christians, or claim to be.

I don't know about your situation, but the Devil like to send his servants out there saying, "We are Christians! We are Christians!", while they spread their horrible evil.

What a lot of people do not realize is that these people they meet in stores, these people they meet on the street, these people at school: Maybe they are not screaming everywhere "I am a Christian! I am praying! I am fasting!", but they very well may be very humble and righteous Christians.

They are atheletes and office works, doctors and lawyers, store clerks and cooks... we are. We are all of these things. We do the lawns and we run the cities.

[breatheprayer]

I am so glad that being a Christian doesn't require us to have 100% of our faith in people. God is so good because He never lets us down like people do. Can I get a witness?

[ChrisinMI]

:groupray: Feelings have NOTHING to do with our security as a Christian. Feelings are temporary. DO NOT base your beliefs on your feelings. Also..do not base your beliefs on the 'opinions' of people on a website (message boards). You need to pray pray pray for our Lord to give you some clarity and comfort! Jesus LOVES YOU and he knows exactly what you struggle with. He WILL HELP you! It doesn't matter that your family is not christian. Figure out what your issues are...if it is belief in the bible...do research..you obviously have internet access...there is a ton of info out there on the credibility of the bible. If it is trust...well the ONLY one you can 100% trust is our Lord Jesus. People will only disappoint. You do need to find some good christians with whom you can fellowship and grow stronger in Christ. As far as being a 'baby' I am thinking that person meant a 'baby christian or a new christian'. This is a stage that you can stay in forever OR you can choose to pray and study God's word and grow up from being a baby christian. Pray for God to send someone in your path that can help restore your trust in your fellow christians. There are many people on this board that are wonderful, supportive and knowledgeable....but there are also those that are judgemental and spiteful! IGNORE the latter! A poster earlier made agood point by suggesting you tell us what your areas of need are (specifially) Do that! See if we can get you some help. God Bless you. Don't give up on Christ! Even if you do..He will NEVER give up on you and will be there with wide open arms to take you back when you are ready!:hug:

[Sabra]

Hey Marmaladegirl22,

Sorry about all what happened to you from supposedly "Christian" people. These people are being inconsistent with their faith which calls them to love their neighbour. I believe that insulting and hurting others is not to "loving." Jesus said that even those who call another, "You good-for-nothing!" and "a worthless fool" (I assume that all insults are placed into this category) will be in danger of going to the fire of hell (Matthew 5:21-26).

Not all Christians are that bad, and there's nothing scary about any of us, ... at least, I don't think there is... ;) I take heed of Jesus' advice in Matthew 7:1-6, "Do not judge others, so that God will not judge you, for God will judge you in the same way you judge others, and He will apply to you the same rules you apply to others. Why, then, do you look at the speck in yoiur brother's eye and pay no attention to the log in your own eye? How dare you say to your brother, 'Please, let me take that speck out of your eye,' when you have a log in your own eye?"

I try my best not to accuse or call people names for problems they've done, because the chances are I've done them myself...