Not under the schoolmaster?

[Bruce101]

I would like to see the following addressed.

Ga 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Thanks

Bruce

[Hedgehog]

Very good question, I've wondered about this myself many times.

[RomanJudah]

I would like to see the following addressed.

Ga 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Thanks

Bruce




This is addressing being under the law for righteousness. We are no longer under that system of works, but under the law of Yeshua, of faith. The law is not of faith, for the man who discontinues to do everything in the law is under a curse.

That does not mean that we no longer keep torah, it simply means that we are not keeping torah to be righteous. By faith in Yeshua, He becomes our widsom - our righteousness and holiness.

RJ

[Bruce101]

This is addressing being under the law for righteousness. We are no longer under that system of works, but under the law of Yeshua, of faith. The law is not of faith, for the man who discontinues to do everything in the law is under a curse.

That does not mean that we no longer keep torah, it simply means that we are not keeping torah to be righteous. By faith in Yeshua, He becomes our widsom - our righteousness and holiness.

RJ

Though I would like to hear other views on this, that does make sense.

Bruce

[visionary]

That does not mean that we no longer keep torah, it simply means that we are not keeping torah to be righteous. That means that we keep torah not for righteousness but for our love for our Lord and His Kingdom.

[RomanJudah]

That means that we keep torah not for righteousness but for our love for our Lord and His Kingdom.


Exactly..if we keep torah to be righteous, it proves we do not believe in the power of Yeshua nor the Kingdom.


RJ

[visionary]

Exactly..if we keep torah to be righteous, it proves we do not believe in the power of Yeshua nor the Kingdom.


RJThat ia it...Righteousness comes from Yeshua, not the Law. Grace comes from Yeshua.. and we are to seek both the righteousness of Yeshua using the eyesalve he has given us, the ears to hear, and the strength to do in His name that which we could not do in our own. Grace is the loving way he watches and sees not our mistakes but our progresses and willingness to do His will.

[Bon]

Galatians 3:21-25: “Is the law then against the promises of Yahweh? Yahweh forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. But the scripture has concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Yahshua the Messiah might be given to them that believe. Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Messiah, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.”
This is telling us that there is only ONE way to justify ourselves to YHWH, and that is by FAITH...and not by the Law.

But, reading this in harmony with the rest of the bible, we know that the Torah is not done away with.

The Law or Torah is now in our hearts through faith, and we comply with Yahweh’s will automatically. His Laws are now a part of us.

Bon

[DrMcDonald]

Keeping Torah, is an honor for those who have Moshiach, He tells us that if we love Him we would keep His commandments (Torah).

We do this out of love and respect, as Yeshua HaMoshiach is our salvation and our righteousness is from Him.

Mac

[plum]

I see it as we are not under the schoolmaster "role" of the law once we come to faith in Messiah Yeshua (which is the goal of the law, the schoolmaster).
this passage is very popular with anomians who see Torah as "done away" because it has "served its purpose"

[visionary]

The schoolmaster is still around, it is just that we have graduated (thanks tothe Holy Spirits leading) from dead letters to living the spirit and intent of the law. Now that is maturity in godliness.

[Tea]

I compare this verse, similar to learning to drive. When we first start, we have so much to learn. Nothing comes naturally, or instinctively, as there are many rules and regulations to learn. Gradually though, we are able to do things with out having to think about them, and are (usually) happy to drive as we have been instructed to, as we know that there is safety driving within the rules. ALthough we don't have the "shcoolmaster" there telling us how to do everything, we still follow and observe all that the "schoolmaster" has taught us. So too Torah is the "Schoolmaster" teaching us how to walk pleasingly to G-d. At first it doesn't come naturally and we need constant reminder of many things. But gradually it does become easier, and we willingly walk "in the spirit and intention" of Torah, without needing constant reminders from the "Schoolmaster". As Paul says, "When you should have been apt to teach, I had to take you back and teach you the first oracles of G-d". Having been taught how to walk in, and observe G-d laws, does not mean that then we don't have to observe it or do it, anymore. The same applies with driving. Just because I now have my licence to drive, and don't need to be taught, does that mean that I don't need to observe the rules of the road anymore, and can drive however I please?? I don't think so.
Shalom
Tea

[plum]

I compare this verse, similar to learning to drive. When we first start, we have so much to learn. Nothing comes naturally, or instinctively, as there are many rules and regulations to learn. Gradually though, we are able to do things with out having to think about them, and are (usually) happy to drive as we have been instructed to, as we know that there is safety driving within the rules. ALthough we don't have the "shcoolmaster" there telling us how to do everything, we still follow and observe all that the "schoolmaster" has taught us. So too Torah is the "Schoolmaster" teaching us how to walk pleasingly to G-d. At first it doesn't come naturally and we need constant reminder of many things. But gradually it does become easier, and we willingly walk "in the spirit and intention" of Torah, without needing constant reminders from the "Schoolmaster". As Paul says, "When you should have been apt to teach, I had to take you back and teach you the first oracles of G-d". Having been taught how to walk in, and observe G-d laws, does not mean that then we don't have to observe it or do it, anymore. The same applies with driving. Just because I now have my licence to drive, and don't need to be taught, does that mean that I don't need to observe the rules of the road anymore, and can drive however I please?? I don't think so.
Shalom
Tea
i really like this analogy, Tea :) well spoken