Give me a history lesson.

[Philip]

It is my understanding that Celtic and Anglican Christianity developed, at least initially, indepentent of Rome. When did this change? How was it changed? And, what changed?

[gtsecc]

Ledgend says Joseph of Aramathea was sent by John The Evangelist, to the British Isles.
We know Christianity was here around the turn of the first century.
Pope Gregory the Great sent Augustine in 596. He wazs the First Arch bishop of Canterbury.
Celtic and Roman Christianity co-existed until the Synod of Whitby 664, when both sides argee upon the Roman calendar.
Your Church considers us fully Orthodox, without question, at least until 1066.
Of interest - Walsingham is a Marian Shrine for three branches of the Church -Anglicans, Roman Catholics, and Eastern Orthodox.

[gtsecc]

Henry VIII changed nothing.
Edward I changed the Mass from Latin to English on June 9th, Pentacost 1549.

[holyshe]

Henry VIII changed nothing.
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i beg to differ he change his wife loads of times lmto
lmso
lol

[Philip]

Anyone know when the Filioque made an appearance on the Isles?

[SirTimothy]

Anyone know when the Filioque made an appearance on the Isles?

Good question. I would guess with the Norman invasion, which would be around 1066ish. The Vatican wasn't happy with our very nominal 'lets let the Vatican think they're boss' attitude, and fully endorsed the Norman invasion--knowing that the church would become normanized.

Timothy

[Philip]

Good question. I would guess with the Norman invasion, which would be around 1066ish.

Seems reasonable to me. Anyone else have an idea?

[PaladinValer]

I would echo SirTimothy.

I've gaven some fairly lengthy (though not nearly enough) histories of the interesting "relationship" between the Church in the British Isles and the Church in Rome in threads past. I'll see if I can find one tomorrow (I really would do it now, but I'm rather tired after a very hard and stressful day [moral of the story being that slow drivers "drive" me bonkers]) for you to read.

Cherrio!

[Joykins]

Henry VIII changed nothing.
Edward I changed the Mass from Latin to English on June 9th, Pentacost 1549.

That must have been Edward VI, not Edward I.

Joy

[Simon_Templar]

Celtic christianity developed independantly of Rome for the first 400-500 years of its existance, but little to nothing is known about celtic christianity during that time.. so it is nearly impossible to say wether it was closer to the eastern or western churches.. Most probably it was distinct in itself with areas of similarity to both.

Celtic christianity had been very nearly destroyed by the barbarian invasions which crushed celtic britain in the mid to late 6th century. The Saxons and Angles of course were pagans and christianity had just barely begun to take root among them when Augustine arrived from Rome as a missionary to the Anglish tribes.
Augustine of course established a roman church, but the celtic church still existed in ireland, wales ( to some degree) and some in the north. Missionaries from The Isle of Lindisfarne re-established the celtic church in the north and eventually the augustinian roman church from the south and the lindisfarne celtic churches of the north met at whitby to settle their "differences"... however, the actuall Synod at Whitby dealt almost exclusively with calendar issues, particularly the proper method of calculating the date of Easter. The celtic church had its own method, different from that of Rome.

The other differences between the two churches were apparerntly so insignificant as to be deemed unimportant and no real obstacle to union. There are some derogatory comments made by the latin rite church people against the celtic liturgical service, but nothing indicating that it was significantly different than the latin rite in any doctrinal issue.. it was more viewed as backward and perhaps a touch uncouth.

From that point the anglican church develops on its own largely free of contact with Rome. However, when the church was normanized in 1066 most of the changes put in place were not liturgical or doctrinal, but rather organizational.
The major doctrinal change brought in was that norman clergy were more strictly celibate while much of the english clergy was married. Married clergy were forced to put aside their wives, or deprived of their living.. the norman clergy often referred to the wives of the english clergy as their mistresses, giving a much more sordid impression.
Most of the other major changes were in the monastic communities, which had been dying out among the anglo-saxons but experienced a rebirth under the normans.