Pls answer these qus of mine! Thanks a million:D

[IvanOng]

Qus1: Why doesn God destroy Satan from the start?

Qus2: Without Satan's existance, will man still sin?

Qus3: From what I know, God wants to give us free will because he loves us so much. Here comes the QUESTION. Since God is almighty, he should have predicted Adam n Eve would betray him beforehand just like he could predict 1 of Jesus's disciples would betray Jesus. Eventually Adam & Eve sinned. Isn't this not free will anymore? Or is it that God intentionally wanted MEN to learn from his own mistakes, that's why he allows the existance of Satan?

Qus3 have been bothering me for months and till now, none of the people I asked give me a satisfactory answer yet. The reason why I asked this is not to challenge every1, Im also hoping that some1 would be able to provide me an answer that's able to convince me. In order for my faith to build on, I cant proceed further with unanswered question.

*Please elaborate as much as possible for your answer and if possible, back it up with verses from the Bible. Really THANKS ALOT.

[Skinster007]

Deuteronomy 30:19

19I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

God sets two paths before us. He is all knowing so sure he knows the outcome. But it doesn't take away from our free will. If I placed a $1 bill and a $100 bill before you, I know you will take the $100 bill. You still have to make the decision though. The problem is that we try to understand something that is beyond our comprehension. God wants us to come to him because we love him and want to commune with him. Not to come to him because it's the only choice we have. Look at the scripture, not only does God give us a choice but He tells us which path we should take. He's done all the work for us. We just have to make a simple choice.

[Harlan Norris]

Qus1: Why doesn God destroy Satan from the start?

Qus2: Without Satan's existance, will man still sin?

Qus3: From what I know, God wants to give us free will because he loves us so much. Here comes the QUESTION. Since God is almighty, he should have predicted Adam n Eve would betray him beforehand just like he could predict 1 of Jesus's disciples would betray Jesus. Eventually Adam & Eve sinned. Isn't this not free will anymore? Or is it that God intentionally wanted MEN to learn from his own mistakes, that's why he allows the existance of Satan?

Qus3 have been bothering me for months and till now, none of the people I asked give me a satisfactory answer yet. The reason why I asked this is not to challenge every1, Im also hoping that some1 would be able to provide me an answer that's able to convince me. In order for my faith to build on, I cant proceed further with unanswered question.

*Please elaborate as much as possible for your answer and if possible, back it up with verses from the Bible. Really THANKS ALOT.When you consider God. It's difficult to comprehend the whole scope of his ability. It has occoured to me that the entire issue has already played out. In other words it's a done deal.So what does that mean for me. Well, I've accepted Jesus Christ as my savior. I'm shure that God knew I would.However , I was unaware of this. So ,for me it was a matter of free will. Will I keep my faith? God knows. I don't know. So I pray to God for increased faith. And he has given this to me. From my point of view, it's so far so good. God knows the outcome.
In the end, so will I.

[IvanOng]

Harlan and Skinster007, really thanks alot for your answers. Here pops up qus no.4

Qus4: Since the purpose of us on this earth is to spread the Gospel to every nation and tribe, if Adam and Eve didn sinned then, would it mean that there would be a different purpose for us to be on this earth? And what is that?

*Some of my questions may seems ridiculous, but because of man's hunger for truth which God created initially, isn't it what I'm doing now? Qus1 and Qus2 are not answered yet :D. You know, im so EAGER for these ANSWERS..

[IvanOng]

Qus5: Why is it that some other religions are able to demonstrate miraculous power. Say casting out of demons, predicting lotteries' number, telling the past of somebody. >> Yea some of this may be fakes, but some of it really do happened. My friend is 1 of them, a fortune teller managed to tell of his past, 90 percent accurate. Is it because of the demons which tried to imitate the Gods of other religions? And in order to convince the non-christians that other Gods do exist too. So these demons faked all these..... Am I right to say these? If not pls tell me why....... THANKS

[Kris123]

Qus1: Why doesn't God destroy Satan from the start?



I think that God allows Satan to still exist because Satan tempts us. When Satan tempts us and we over come that temptation we bring glory to God. Life is a learning and building processes. When we pass a test or temptation, two different things, we grow spiritually and closer to God. These things make us come to God for help. If we didn't have them then we would not need to come to God. This way we build on our relationship with Him.

Qus2: Without Satan's existance, will man still sin?

I don't think that anyone can answer this question but God. Satan and the angel's that followed him must have had free will to turn against God. So does that mean that us having free will could do the same with out Satan's evil suggestions? But one thing I think is that if Satan would not have existed then no one would be there to tempt Adam and Eve. I don't know if Adam and Eve would have decided to disobey or not. I guess that you just can't get caught up in "what if's" because it has already happened and God knows how it is going to happen.

[Skinster007]

4. Your purpose in the garden wouldn't change much. You would be there to commune with God. To worship him and live a perfect existance on earth. You asked if there would still be sin without Satan. The bible tells us that man brought sin into this world.

Romans 5:12
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

So my answer would be yes. The devil doesn't make you sin, he just nudges you a bit. Lol. A lot of the sin we do has nothing to do with Satan.

5.I never saw someone predict the lottery. Otherwise they would all be rich. My mom used to watch the lottery everyday. One night I sat there and before they pulled up the first ball I said "248" out loud. Bingo 248 came out. Lucky guess. Most people can tell you your past. Demons know your past. They can also tell you where you lost something or where a kidnapper is holding a child. Why would they help you? Because the next time you lose something or wanna know something about the past, you will go to them again. Instead of going to God or asking the Holy Ghost. Anything to take the glory away from God.

[Kris123]

My friend is 1 of them, a fortune teller managed to tell of his past, 90 percent accurate. Is it because of the demons which tried to imitate the Gods of other religions? And in order to convince the non-christians that other Gods do exist too.

Really fortune telling isn't that hard, my teacher tried it on someone in class. They just base it on generalizations and then when they get close to describing it they look for your body langauge to pick up on how close they are getting.



In the bible it does warn not to go to these people:

Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch. Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and becase of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee."

[Harlan Norris]

Harlan and Skinster007, really thanks alot for your answers. Here pops up qus no.4

Qus4: Since the purpose of us on this earth is to spread the Gospel to every nation and tribe, if Adam and Eve didn sinned then, would it mean that there would be a different purpose for us to be on this earth? And what is that?

*Some of my questions may seems ridiculous, but because of man's hunger for truth which God created initially, isn't it what I'm doing now? Qus1 and Qus2 are not answered yet :D. You know, im so EAGER for these ANSWERS..I'm not able to answer that one. It would only be pure conjecture.

[Harlan Norris]

Qus5: Why is it that some other religions are able to demonstrate miraculous power. Say casting out of demons, predicting lotteries' number, telling the past of somebody. >> Yea some of this may be fakes, but some of it really do happened. My friend is 1 of them, a fortune teller managed to tell of his past, 90 percent accurate. Is it because of the demons which tried to imitate the Gods of other religions? And in order to convince the non-christians that other Gods do exist too. So these demons faked all these..... Am I right to say these? If not pls tell me why....... THANKSWe are instructed that anything not of God is of satan. I've decided that Jesus Christ is my savior. So, I'll pay no heed to any other.

[CaliforniaJosiah]

Just MY personal opinions; no claim to THE answer...


Qus1: Why doesn God destroy Satan from the start?

HONEST answer, in my opinion: You'd need to ask God WHY He does or does not do things. The only way I'd had a clue - just speaking for ME - is if He clearly said so. He hasn't.


Qus2: Without Satan's existance, will man still sin?

Yes.

Sin is kinda like a spiritual disease; that 'bend' and perverted side, the self-centered, egotistical tendency. I believe it's universal. In theology, this is sometimes refered to as "original sin" or just "sin."

Yes, the disease tends to have symptoms. These are called "actual sins" or "actualized sins." This can be omission (not doing as we should) or comission (doing what we should not). It's not to be confused with action since the symptoms can reveal themselves in our attitudes, our thoughts, our words - a variety of ways and of course in greatly varying degrees. Sometimes, they can be controlled to such an extent as to be vertually unnoticed ("civil righteousness") but, of course, just because I'm not sneezing at the moment doesn't mean I don't have a cold.


Qus3: From what I know, God wants to give us free will because he loves us so much. Here comes the QUESTION. Since God is almighty, he should have predicted Adam n Eve would betray him beforehand just like he could predict 1 of Jesus's disciples would betray Jesus. Eventually Adam & Eve sinned. Isn't this not free will anymore? Or is it that God intentionally wanted MEN to learn from his own mistakes, that's why he allows the existance of Satan?

Determinism is a Greek Philosophy unknown in the Bible. It's probably going to lead to all kinds of misunderstandings if we interject a belief-system or philosophy into the Bible and then evaluate what is there on the basis of what we interjected. In MY opinion, the Bible simply doesn't go there - at least not in those terms. It's important, I think, to view the Bible as an essentually Jewish book - from that milieu - not as a Greek book.

But, to your question... I think you are confusing foreknowledge with determinism. Just because I know the sun will rise tomorrow does not imply that I cause or even will it to rise. Just because I know my math teacher will give a test on Friday doesn't mean he has no free will in the matter. Again, I think you may be imputing a philosophical system into the Bible - it's just not there.


Qus3 have been bothering me for months and till now, none of the people I asked give me a satisfactory answer yet. The reason why I asked this is not to challenge every1, Im also hoping that some1 would be able to provide me an answer that's able to convince me. In order for my faith to build on, I cant proceed further with unanswered question.


Several points:

1. Skepticism is, by definition, insatiable since it only embraces the question and denies any answer. Again, a Greek philosophy unknown in the Bible.

2. PROOF is amazingly rare. While evidence of various kinds may take us some distance, ultimately, there tends to be that "leap of faith" that says this is sufficient for us to trust it, to rely on it, to act according to it. That's the meaning of faith - to trust, to rely. It's not the same as "it's proven to me." Some weeks ago, I flew to Hawaii. While I understand the physics involved, I did not - in any way or to any degree - check out the plane, I didn't do a weather report, I didn't check up on the pilot or crew. And yet I boarded the plane, entrusted my very life to it and it's crew. That's faith. Another person may have stayed home, not willing to take that "leap of faith." What is "satisfactory" is a tad subjective and certainly personal. But, it rarely - if ever - can be PROVEN in some absolute, universal sense beyond question. Heck, I can't even PROVE that I exist.

3. Christianity is a religion, it's not a science. Christianity is about our RELATIONSHIP with God, and the implications of that for our relationship with others, ourselves and the world around us. It's a RELATIONSHIP. A living, relying relationship with the living, loving God. I'm 17 and perhaps younger than you, but I've already learned WELL that relationships are not very much like mathamatics. They aren't always totally logical and predictable. They don't always involve knowing all the answers to all the questions. A man proposes marriage to that very special girl. Can he PROVE she is the right one for him? Can he PROVE that he truely loves her? Can he PROVE marriage is the right thing to do? Does he know EVERYTHING about her, EVERYTHING in every detail about their relationship? Perhaps not. But there is that 'leap of faith.'


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[CaliforniaJosiah]

Just MY personal opinions, no claim to ANSWERS here...



Qus5: Why is it that some other religions are able to demonstrate miraculous power. Say casting out of demons, predicting lotteries' number, telling the past of somebody. >> Yea some of this may be fakes, but some of it really do happened. My friend is 1 of them, a fortune teller managed to tell of his past, 90 percent accurate. Is it because of the demons which tried to imitate the Gods of other religions? And in order to convince the non-christians that other Gods do exist too. So these demons faked all these..... Am I right to say these? If not pls tell me why....... THANKS

I'm just a tad lost to 'get' the point in this question, so forgive me if I'm not too helpful.

1. Educated, intelligent guessing? Just for fun, I once took a multiple choice test that my sister brought home from college. It was in biology (not my subject; my knowledge is limited to what I remember from high school), anyway, I got an 80% on it. Maybe a C+ or even an B- Not too bad for guessing!!! Most of the time, I could narrow it down to two, I guess most of the time my guess was good. I'd just be careful to make TOO much of such things.

2. Yeah, some Christians would probably point to the "dark side" (for all you Star Wars fans out there); frankly, that usually just evades everything to me. I suspect Christians (especially of the very conservative bent) 'blame' Satan for more than his due. I recall a sermon where it was said, "Satan could go on a month long vacation - and no one would even notice; we are apt at fulfilling his agenda even in his absense." But I digress...

3. To the question, I don't know. I sometimes WONDER (that's all, hardly a theory) that there's much we don't understand even enough to begin asking the questions about. Odd, 'cuz your question immediately made me think of a similar situation that's always been a question for me: Remember the story of Moses and Pharoah and how Moses would do all those miracles by the power of God - and then Pharoah's boys would do the same! How? I don't know. I don't really care, but it is curious. Again, some of my Christian brothers and sisters would say by the power of the devil (the "dark side" argument), I just don't know. Maybe there are things at work in the universe still very unknown to us???


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[CaliforniaJosiah]

Qus4: Since the purpose of us on this earth is to spread the Gospel to every nation and tribe, if Adam and Eve didn sinned then, would it mean that there would be a different purpose for us to be on this earth? And what is that?




You said, "Since the purpose of us on this earth is to..." I honestly don't follow you there. That's key to the Great Commission, but I don't think there's anything I personally know of that says that's our "purpose."


Jesus stated His purpose. His "mission statement" if you will. He said, "I have come that you may have life - and have it abundantly." That's HIS purpose. So, maybe our purpose is to live that life He gave us????


In any case, your very THEORETICAL question is probably not answerable. I don't think I can begin to theorize how things might be different today had sin never entered the picture. In any case, "what if's" don't usually matter much.


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[dvd_holc]

First, we can only say what we have been true thus far which is contained in the Bible.

Qus1: Why doesn God destroy Satan from the start?

1. God has made certain entities to be forever. Angels and mankind both have this funtion of being forever. Satan, the fallen angels, and sinners are like the believers and angels in that we all still have a purpose in being. One such purpose displays God's love just be existing, but there are further pursues.

Qus2: Without Satan's existance, will man still sin?

Interesting question, the only reply is that he is the cause of sin. He was the first. He has tried to create a kingdom around sin. We know that when Jesus comes back he will bind Satan up for 1000 years and there will be peace. Then afterward Satan will be let go for a brief time then bound again to be in Hell forever. We do see a direct purpose and function of Satan. And that he is the cheif cause of sin.

Qus3: From what I know, God wants to give us free will because he loves us so much. Here comes the QUESTION. Since God is almighty, he should have predicted Adam n Eve would betray him beforehand just like he could predict 1 of Jesus's disciples would betray Jesus. Eventually Adam & Eve sinned. Isn't this not free will anymore? Or is it that God intentionally wanted MEN to learn from his own mistakes, that's why he allows the existance of Satan?

God wants us to display good and love all the time no matter what (in the face of Satan). Though God does not stand in the way of us making the choose of following him or not. Satan would want us to believe that though. Free Will does not interfer with any of God's abilities. Nor, does God's abilities interfers with ours.

Qus4: Since the purpose of us on this earth is to spread the Gospel to every nation and tribe, if Adam and Eve didn sinned then, would it mean that there would be a different purpose for us to be on this earth? And what is that?

God has given us many things to do in life. The first is to love, know, and worship him. Don't distinglish worship as praise although it is a form of worship. The worship I speak of is devotion to God. Then he will put us in places to do his will. We often find that in doing one thing we also do another and another in the process. We have several layers of belonging, (God, community, family, wife/husband, job, etc...). They all bring certain purposes to our existence which fulfill parts of our nature.

Qus5: Why is it that some other religions are able to demonstrate miraculous power. Say casting out of demons, predicting lotteries' number, telling the past of somebody. >> Yea some of this may be fakes, but some of it really do happened. My friend is 1 of them, a fortune teller managed to tell of his past, 90 percent accurate. Is it because of the demons which tried to imitate the Gods of other religions? And in order to convince the non-christians that other Gods do exist too. So these demons faked all these..... Am I right to say these? If not pls tell me why.......

Yes, it is from demons. First, all knowing of the furture comes from God. Satan uses this info to deceive humans into believing this power comes from another source in result to make us worship lesser beings or ideals. God told us that those demons don't have the power. He does. So put your faith in him, and don't ask them for anything. There has been some incredible things that demons have done in the Bible, but none compared to God's ultimately. If you look to compare...then look to see what is gained. Is it love or a selfish possesion? Does it go back to YWHW or does it go back to vain thoughts?

[woobadooba]

"Why doesn God destroy Satan from the start?"

Because it was His choice not to.


"Without Satan's existance, will man still sin?"

Sure, why wouldn't he be able to? Did a Satan exist before Satan, to make him sin? Satan was the first to sin. He didn't need someone to cause him to sin, so why would a man need Satan, to sin?

"From what I know, God wants to give us free will because he loves us so much. Here comes the QUESTION. Since God is almighty, he should have predicted Adam n Eve would betray him beforehand just like he could predict 1 of Jesus's disciples would betray Jesus. Eventually Adam & Eve sinned. Isn't this not free will anymore? Or is it that God intentionally wanted MEN to learn from his own mistakes, that's why he allows the existance of Satan?"

God's foreknowledge of sin is not the cause of sin, and God knowing that man would sin prior to creating him isn't what caused man to sin.

If you knew that a child was about to get himself into a dangerous situation, and told him to stay away from such danger, and he didn't listen to you, would you be the cause of the harm that would come upon him thereby?

Also, God isn't going to give us free-will, it is already a part of our makeup.

And God allowed the existence of Satan because He is merciful!

[Adstar]

Qus1: Why doesn God destroy Satan from the start?

Qus2: Without Satan's existance, will man still sin?

Qus3: From what I know, God wants to give us free will because he loves us so much. Here comes the QUESTION. Since God is almighty, he should have predicted Adam n Eve would betray him beforehand just like he could predict 1 of Jesus's disciples would betray Jesus. Eventually Adam & Eve sinned. Isn't this not free will anymore? Or is it that God intentionally wanted MEN to learn from his own mistakes, that's why he allows the existance of Satan?

Qus3 have been bothering me for months and till now, none of the people I asked give me a satisfactory answer yet. The reason why I asked this is not to challenge every1, Im also hoping that some1 would be able to provide me an answer that's able to convince me. In order for my faith to build on, I cant proceed further with unanswered question.

*Please elaborate as much as possible for your answer and if possible, back it up with verses from the Bible. Really THANKS ALOT.

Qus1: Why doesn God destroy Satan from the start?

It is clear that God could have destroyed satan when He sought to be the equal of God. But if God used His power to destroy satan then God would have been God of all the heavenly host by force not be agreement. God is just and seeks to be justified as God. So therefore He must demonstrate that satan is not justified in seeking to be equal with God. He must demonstrate to the heavenly host that He is right to be the One and Only God of all existence. God wants to be followed not because of fear but through love and respect.


Qus2: Without Satan's existance, will man still sin?

Mankind has come to the knowledge of Good and Evil while not having the ability to control it. we where not originally designed to have this knowledge. So even if satan disappeared tomorrow we would still sin. Until the day that God makes us able to deal with the knowledge of Good and Evil (the resurrection) we will still be faulty in the things we do in this world.


Qus3: From what I know, God wants to give us free will because he loves us so much. Here comes the QUESTION. Since God is almighty, he should have predicted Adam n Eve would betray him beforehand just like he could predict 1 of Jesus's disciples would betray Jesus. Eventually Adam & Eve sinned. Isn't this not free will anymore? Or is it that God intentionally wanted MEN to learn from his own mistakes, that's why he allows the existence of Satan?

Yes God knew that Adam and Eve would join satan in rebellion against God by disobeying Him and obtaining the knowledge of Good and Evil. But Adam and Eve had the free will to refuse satans test. satan did not force them to obtain the knowledge of Good and Evil nor did God force them to take the knowledge of Good and Evil they choose it by their own free will. They choose to believe in satan and not to believe in God. Through Jesus God has made it possible for mankind to be saved from this state of being. as before we have the free will do accept Jesus as our Savior, to be in agreement with God that we are sinners needing forgiveness. We cannot be perfect but we can acknowledge perfection. we can acknowledge Gods right to be God we can agree that God is justified to be the one and only God and we can reject satan. We can have the right spirit while still being in a faulty state we are in. This is Gods offer to us to choose Him and be restored to eternity with Him.

God wants us to accept Him as God just as He wants the heavenly Host to accept Him as righteous to Be the One and Only God.

Read this:
Satan Thrown Out of Heaven
Revelation 12
7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.

satan is not alone in His rebellion against God the angels have a free will choice whom they will serve and we also have a free will choice whom we will acknowledge as God. God does not want zombies as followers but those who respect Him as rightfully the one and Only God of all existence. Choose today whom you will follow.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

[IvanOng]

Thanks for your attempts to the answers.

Qus6: I know God sent Jesus to die on the cross is to show how great his love is for us and to let the Holy Spirit fall upon every man. Most importantly of all, is to forgive our sins. But I dont understand why by nailing him on the cross, would remove all our sins? What's the significance of it?

Qus7: God should know that currently, everyone is debating the existance of God. And many die-hards just don't believe it. Why doesn't God do something about it? Like coming down to earth and demonstrating his power like what he did during the Moses period, in order for all to believe? (yea i mean something major, that most of the non-believers in the world would witness it) - maybe through media, live telecast... something like that.. And even after this when they have seen it, and they still chosen not to believe in God, these are the bunch who deserves to go to Hell. Rather than those who are less exposed to the miraculous power of God, in order for them to be convinced totally.

[Skinster007]

6. Ok. When Adam sinned, he fell out of fellowship with God. The only way to come back into fellowship was to have a blood sacrafice. When people sacraficed an animal, their sins were transferred to the animal. The blood of the animal wasn't pure enough so they would have to do it every year. So God came down as a man. Jesus was a sacraficial lamb. The sin of the wholw world was placed on him. But his blood was so pure and good that it covers our past, present and future sins. That doesn't mean you have a license to sin. It means that when you slip up and sin, you just need to ask for forgiveness. There's no need for another sacrafice because Jesus' blood covers all.

7. Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

John 20:29
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Anyone can see and believe. If God came down to earth and preached a sermon on tv, he'd be taking away your free will. You would have no choice but to believe. Even then people would find a way not to believe. And there wouldn't be the change in the heart of the believer.

[dvd_holc]

Qus6: I know God sent Jesus to die on the cross is to show how great his love is for us and to let the Holy Spirit fall upon every man. Most importantly of all, is to forgive our sins. But I dont understand why by nailing him on the cross, would remove all our sins? What's the significance of it?


First, let me say that the reality already operates on death brings life. When we eat, we first cut something of from it’s life source then it restores our life. Second, if you look at the rituals of sacrifice in the Torah and compare it to what happen to Jesus then you will see a striking similarity to this ritual. Jesus is the ultimate “scapegoat”. You can look into that and hopefully you will be amazed how similar to the ritual and execution of Jesus. Why the cross? I can’t say exactly why…but from what I have learned it is the most humiliating prolonged agonizing execution with full view of others. Jesus really took on the worst of this world.


Qus7: God should know that currently, everyone is debating the existance of God. And many die-hards just don't believe it. Why doesn't God do something about it? Like coming down to earth and demonstrating his power like what he did during the Moses period, in order for all to believe? (yea i mean something major, that most of the non-believers in the world would witness it) - maybe through media, live telecast... something like that.. And even after this when they have seen it, and they still chosen not to believe in God, these are the bunch who deserves to go to Hell. Rather than those who are less exposed to the miraculous power of God, in order for them to be convinced totally.


Some debate his existence, but most of the world believes there is a God. If you look, you will see that most the people in the world have a religion. Therefore, the world does understand that is something out there…but those details are what they question. God does do something about them. God takes a active role in their life whether they believe it our not. He is the one who maintains and nourishes their life. He is the one who gives their daily needs. He does do a lot for them. God created us with a nature and whether we acknowledge him or not…people still have that nature. When Hitler had a wife, why? Did he want to love but only in a limited form…but love is from God. Did the Jews follow God after they saw what he did against the “gods of Egypt” or did they make their own calf to worship? Why did not all of Israel worship God after Elijah asked God to send fire from the sky? Why did not every person in Babylon worship YHWH after the three where in the fire? Why did the Jews also rebel time after time? Why did not all the people have faith after flood? Why did Adam and Eve disobey God when they were what many would consider to be the closest that humanity has been to God? God is actively part in our live, but we choose not to believe in his participation and at times don’t understand his involvement. How about taking it in reverse…Why does the world want to work so hard to say there is no God and limit his involvement?

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Qus6: I know God sent Jesus to die on the cross is to show how great his love is for us and to let the Holy Spirit fall upon every man. Most importantly of all, is to forgive our sins. But I dont understand why by nailing him on the cross, would remove all our sins? What's the significance of it?

I think this question has been well answered already. i will add one thing. saying sorry means nothing if one is not repentant. God knows our intentions.


Qus7: God should know that currently, everyone is debating the existance of God. And many die-hards just don't believe it. Why doesn't God do something about it? Like coming down to earth and demonstrating his power like what he did during the Moses period, in order for all to believe? (yea i mean something major, that most of the non-believers in the world would witness it) - maybe through media, live telecast... something like that.. And even after this when they have seen it, and they still chosen not to believe in God, these are the bunch who deserves to go to Hell. Rather than those who are less exposed to the miraculous power of God, in order for them to be convinced totally.

God has chosen to use the message of Jesus to convince people of the truth of God. If you read the story of Moses and the exodus the people still rejected the will of God even when He gave great signs, also if one reads the story of Jesus life on earth people rejected His great signs also. There is always an avenue for disbelief for those who hate the truth of God. Those who love the Message of Jesus will agree with it and come to accept Jesus as the Son of God. Those who take pleasure in evil will reject the message of Jesus. One must think more about what God wants to achieve, not what is possible for God to do.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

[Kris123]

Qus6: I know God sent Jesus to die on the cross is to show how great his love is for us and to let the Holy Spirit fall upon every man. Most importantly of all, is to forgive our sins. But I dont understand why by nailing him on the cross, would remove all our sins? What's the significance of it?


Deuteronomy 21:23 “ His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day: (for he that is hanged is accursed of God) that thy land be not defiled, which the Lord thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.




Galatians 3:13 “ Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree.”

From my understanding He was made a curse because He bore all of our sins. Just my thought.

[Harlan Norris]

Thanks for your attempts to the answers.

Qus6: I know God sent Jesus to die on the cross is to show how great his love is for us and to let the Holy Spirit fall upon every man. Most importantly of all, is to forgive our sins. But I dont understand why by nailing him on the cross, would remove all our sins? What's the significance of it?

Qus7: God should know that currently, everyone is debating the existance of God. And many die-hards just don't believe it. Why doesn't God do something about it? Like coming down to earth and demonstrating his power like what he did during the Moses period, in order for all to believe? (yea i mean something major, that most of the non-believers in the world would witness it) - maybe through media, live telecast... something like that.. And even after this when they have seen it, and they still chosen not to believe in God, these are the bunch who deserves to go to Hell. Rather than those who are less exposed to the miraculous power of God, in order for them to be convinced totally.Well, for question#6, Jesus actually took our punishment. Gods total wrath was poured out on him through his passion. That is why we are saved through the cross. Question #7, It would be nice to see some irrefutable proof of God. However, we are saved by our FAITH. Faith is our heart felt belief in something not proven. Some can witness anything and still not believe. These days especially, seeing is not believing. For me though, everything is proof of God.

[brotherjim]

Qus1: Why doesn God . . . .
You need to take a couple giant steps backwards and view the big picture, Ivan---and others.

(And why do you have a Christian symbol by your name, and yet post these things under questions from non-Christians?)

This world we see around us is not that which God intended to remain. Of course He knew things would fall apart the way they did, put this world and this life is a "proving ground" to determine who will be allowed into the New Heaven to soon arrive and exist for all eternity and in the new earth soon-coming to replace this fallen one, and who will not.

Also, since ANY Kingdom requires a chain of command: so that no one can ever rightfully judge God as being unfair in who rules what, He has allowed this life for us to determine it.

Satan, of course must continue to exist as God's "police force," for every entity of two or more beings requires laws, and enforcement of them---such is an existential law of the universe.

Christ had to die, because God established blood covenants/sacrifices as the method of payment for sin, first via animals and then via His Son. Since salvation is only ever possible via Faith---so that no person can ever boast, no person can ever glory in God's Presence, for this He hates mightily (Prov. 6:16-17a)---God knew, in part, that man would become too intellectually sophisticated/cosmopolitan to take seriously blood sacrifice as a method of having a relationship with God, therefore man would not be able to intellectually approach God and thereby live forever. A person must come only via child-like Faith, for God will only allow to live forever, those who submit UNCONDITIONALLY to His authority and Wisdom and perfect Judgments.

"The Cross is foolishness to them who are perishing."

The same and similar other goes for your Ques. #7. Kindly see John 2:23-25.

God ordained that He remain intangible as much as possible, for He knew how puffed up with pride even more than he already is, man would become were He able to prove God to others in a visible way. Again, God hates too greatly man's arrogance and resultant pride, for eventually such causes man to think himself as not needing God, like Lucifer also once, erroneously concluded, and then man would question God's Judgments and refuse at times to submit---

Since no person is an island, and whatever one does will affect others, and adversely at times, all must UNCONDITIONALLY submit to God's theocracy if we are to coexist in a world of uncond. Love and unfeigned Peace.

Recall what God says will happen, via the parable, that His enemies will be brought before Him and slayed, THOSE WHO REFUSE TO LET HIM RULE OVER THEM.

And the purpose for man has never changed: sit at the feet of God and minister to Him (have intimate, koinania fellowship with Him), as did Mary (unlike Martha). If He has you to do something more than that, He will tell you. So just wait there, learn His Voice, and Love Him until He tells you otherwise, until He directs you to do something additional, then after you've done it, come back and rest by His side again.

"There remains therefore a [sabbatismos] rest for the people of God." Heb. 4:9

Insofar as other religions, there are many little gods in this world, many demonic forces with very real power, and seldom to they come dressed in red suits with tails and horns and pitch forks. In 2 Cor. 11 Paul warns that the enemy often appears as an "angel of light," as the seemingly religious (and some even within Christianity) who appear loving and good-natured and full of seemingly godly answers. If someone's heart is not pure, such will deceive them, and rightly so---again this is a part of that "police force" intended to drive us to the foot of the Cross, those who will come, for more needed Grace.

"There are, it may be, many voices in the world, and none of them are without signifigance."

brother jim
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[IvanOng]

brotherjim[/b]]
(And why do you have a Christian symbol by your name, and yet post these things under questions from non-Christians?)



Oh aha, because I couldn't find the category for Christians to post questions.. so yea :)

Anyway, I wanna thanks each of every of you here, for spending the effort to answer my questions. Thanks :P

Qus8: Since jealousy is a sin. But why God is a jealous God? Furthermore why should he be jealous over Gods that didn't even exist in the first place?

[Adstar]

Oh aha, because I couldn't find the category for Christians to post questions.. so yea :)

Anyway, I wanna thanks each of every of you here, for spending the effort to answer my questions. Thanks :P

Qus8: Since jealousy is a sin. But why God is a jealous God? Furthermore why should he be jealous over Gods that didn't even exist in the first place?

Jealousy is a sin for us faulty human beings. God is not a faulty human being. God is not restricted by the laws He gives us. God has given us guidance and boundaries for our own good.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

[Whitestone]

Qus1: Why doesn God destroy Satan from the start?

For us to know something is good we also have to know something that is bad. I like to use food when comparing thing since I am big fan of eating. If someone(lets call them person #1) makes you dinner you may think it is good, but without comparison we don't know. You may have someone(lets call them person #2) else make you dinner and think it is better, in which case person 1's dinner is now considered not to be as good as originally thought. Lastly if we have a person #3 make you dinner and it is not as good as #1, we know that the dinners that #1 makes are good.

We as humans need Satan to see what the absense of God is like, without the distinction we would not be able to choose one or the other.

Qus2: Without Satan's existance, will man still sin?

I am going to answer yes (please see answer to above question), because if it was not Satan it would be someone else trying to pull us away from God.

Qus3: From what I know, God wants to give us free will because he loves us so much. Here comes the QUESTION. Since God is almighty, he should have predicted Adam n Eve would betray him beforehand just like he could predict 1 of Jesus's disciples would betray Jesus. Eventually Adam & Eve sinned. Isn't this not free will anymore? Or is it that God intentionally wanted MEN to learn from his own mistakes, that's why he allows the existance of Satan?

I think you are on the right track with this one. Lets say I have a child.

I know this child has a weakness for cookies, I don't want the child to ruin their dinner so I tell them not have any cookies. The child knows the cookies are in the jar on the counter. I take a risk that the child will have a cookie by leaving them alone in the kitchen while I go do something else.

Lets say that when I come back 9 cookies in the jar and I know that their were 10 earlier, the child fesses up that they had one. I praise them for their honesty then scold them for getting a cookie.

As a parent I will keep repeating the cookie test until I know the child can restrain themself from getting a cookie. If I can not trust the child with a cookie how would I ever be able to let them stay at home alone(when age appropriate), do their homework without checking up on them, or let them borrow the car.

You see if I take away the option of the cookie the child will never understand restraint. I could in theory make the child do everything I want them to, but then they become a slave not a child.

I hope this answers your questions, if not please let me know.

[dvd_holc]

"Qus8: Since jealousy is a sin. But why God is a jealous God? Furthermore why should he be jealous over Gods that didn't even exist in the first place?"

God is jealous God. What did that statement relate to? We would have no other god before him. The point is on what do we worship and devote our lives to. Actaully every person has a god where it is God or not. Look up the definition of god. You will find one of the definitions is to what a person devote himself/herself to, and we can observe that people find numerous things to devote themselves to (work, family, community, power, fame, money, lust....etc). God is not jealous as we think, but rather he is the foundation of our lives. Therefore, we are to worship him and his message above other things making him the god of Gods in our lives.

[Whitestone]

Oh aha, because I couldn't find the category for Christians to post questions.. so yea :)

Anyway, I wanna thanks each of every of you here, for spending the effort to answer my questions. Thanks :P

Qus8: Since jealousy is a sin. But why God is a jealous God? Furthermore why should he be jealous over Gods that didn't even exist in the first place?

I found this is the word and it's meaning that I think you are refering to.

qana' {kaw-naw'}
1) to envy, be jealous, be envious, be zealous

a) (Piel)

1) to be jealous of

2) to be envious of

3) to be zealous for

4) to excite to jealous anger

b) (Hiphil) to provoke to jealous anger, cause jealousy

I take it that since this word was used it could either mean, jealous, envious, or zealous. I would think that the importance is put on jealous and zealous to give the impression that not only is our Lord worried about us being led astray, He is also very passionate about making sure that we are not led astray.

I had trouble with this passage until I had a child recently. When the baby was new and so fragile, I had trouble letting anyone else hold him. Not because I am greedy and want the baby all to myself, but because I was jealous in a sense that I did not think that anyone else would care about my son as much as I did. I think that is how God views us, we are young fragile and easily led astray, He is very active and intense in trying to protect us.

[MinDach]

This is a good read, hope this answers your question

God's Ancient Plan for Lucifer's Defeat - by J. R. Church

Adam was not an afterthought. Contrary to popular opinion, God did not create man because He was lonely. Furthermore, Adam's transgression was not the original sin. Lucifer's rebellion preceded the events of Eden. Heaven must have been in turmoil after the fall of the serpent. A third of the angels were affected. Some wonder why God didn't just evaporate His foe and be done with it. Why does Lucifer continue to operate to this very day? He has created so much heartache and chaos. He has spoiled everything he touches. Why has God continued put up with him?

The Plan

God has a plan. He formulated it somewhere in the ancient past. There was a divine reason why God allowed Lucifer to follow through with his diabolical scheme. In the end, God will restore tranquility to His kingdom. And to do so, God laid out a strategy for complete and total victory. It involved the creation of man, knowing all the while that Adam would fall for Lucifer's lies. God was so sure that His plan would work that He carefully placed it within the pages of the Bible.

God's plan was not formulated as the events of history unfolded. It was determined before the creation of Adam. In order to convince us that He knew what He was doing, God had His ancient plan woven into the stories of the Old Testament. Furthermore, the Creator assured us that His plan was preordained. Isaiah expressed God's message:

"Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,

"Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done" (Isaiah 46:9,10).

Declaring the End

God did not linger until Moses before formulating His plan. He did not lay it out in the days of Abraham. In fact, God was not frustrated over man's rebellion in the days of Noah. God had declared His prophetic plan to the pair in the Garden.

Furthermore, God's plan was not concluded at Calvary. The verse does not say that God declared the "middle" from the beginning. He declared the "end." Since mankind is still filling this planet with people, it is obvious that God's plan is not yet over.

According to the sages of Israel, God delivered His prophetic plan through the very process that transpired during the six days of Creation. Those six days represent six thousand years. The seventh day, upon which God rested, lays out a prophetic plan in which the seventh millennium will be ushered in as a "great Sabbath rest." Utopia will soon come to this planet. It is a part of God's plan for Lucifer's defeat.

Heaven Is Included in the Plan

Many Christians think that the crucifixion of Christ was intended only for the redemption of the human race. But the Bible indicates that redemption is only part of the plan. Christ went to the cross that He might bring about a spiritual reconciliation of heaven as well. Paul alludes to this concept in his letter to the Colossians:

"And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven" (Colossians 1:20).

We do not know the whole story, but the reconciliation of heaven seems to be very much a part of the Calvary experience. It may be that we are not the only ones who benefited from the sacrifice of our Savior.

We are all familiar with John 3:16, but are you aware that the Greek term for "world" is cosmos? When John penned, "For God so loved the world," he did not use the term for earth. He used Greek word cosmos, meaning "the heavens and the earth" — a term that includes both this existence and the heavenly realm. The Zondervan Pictoral Encyclopedia of the Bible (vol. 1, page 982) notes that the plural "heavens" also includes "… the place of God's residence."

Consider what the Bible says about the ongoing spiritual war between God and the devil. This conflict started before the making of Adam and continues throughout history. The story of the devil's defeat is intricately connected to the events of the end time. Lucifer's defeat is the primary theme of the book of Revelation.

We are not told simply that believers will be saved and that unbelievers will be condemned. There is another factor presented in the story of the final judgment — the devil will be defeated. Don't forget this all-important aspect of redemption's story.

Every war, every crime, and every atrocity befalling mankind was hatched in hell. The human race faces a common enemy. Lucifer's plot is behind every rebellion. His plan is simple — divide and conquer. He is determined to thwart the will of God. Whenever there is a war on the earth, there appears to be a coinciding conflict in the realm of the spiritual. An example of this extra-dimensional warfare is given in the book of Daniel. An angel was dispatched as soon as Daniel began to pray. However, it took 21 days before the he finally reached the prophet:

"Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.

"But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia" (Daniel 10:12,13).

There is no human potentate that could stop an angel for three weeks. It is assumed, therefore, that this "prince" is a demonic creature with diabolical authority within the kingdom of Persia. By the way, he is probably still there. Daniel, an advisor to the king of Persia, was made aware of this unseen force at work in the political hierarchy of the land. The battle plan originates in the spiritual realm, but the earth has become the battlefield.

Battlefield Earth

Consider the possibility that our universe was originally made for Lucifer's domain. The Apostle Paul called him "the god of this world" (II Corinthians 4:4). It seems that he was the leader of a serpentine group of creatures. For that reason, he is referred to as a "serpent" and "dragon" throughout the Bible. Fossils of his subjects are found all over the world. Archeologists have coined the term "dinosaur" from the Greek deinos "terrifying" and sauros "lizards" to explain their appearance. We know very little about these followers of Lucifer, only that they actually existed somewhere in ages past and suffered a dramatic extinction.

Furthermore, scientists have examined photographs of the planets and moons in our solar neighborhood and noted catastrophic damage. In fact, the entire universe appears to be cursed by the fall of Lucifer. The Creation that God once observed as "good" now appears to be dying. We can thank Lucifer for that.

Since this universe is a part of the Creation that was so broken, it was necessary that Jesus bring the battle into this realm. The strategy for the conflict may have been formulated in another dimension, but the battle is involves this dimension. In order for the Son of God to bring the battle to earth, He created the human race. Mankind provided a human form whereby the Son of God could be incarnated into this realm.

I do not pretend to know every aspect of God's ancient plan, but I am convinced that it involves more than just the human race. We are not some Divine experiment. We are not mere pawns in a heavenly game of chess. We are vital to God's plan for Lucifer's defeat. Furthermore, it was the God's love that caused Him to formulate this seven-thousand-year plan. Had He simply eliminated His foe on the spot, the rest of heaven would never have known about the depths of the rebellion, or the greatness of His victory. It is not a simple story.

The Stouthearted

Isaiah also tells us why God has declared his seven-thousand-year plan from the beginning. He wants to convince the staunchest unbeliever that He is fully aware of every situation in life. The "stouthearted" must be made to understand that nothing happens by accident. God is in complete control from the very beginning:

"Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.

"Hearken unto me, ye stouthearted, that are far from righteousness:

"I bring near my righteousness: it shall not be far off, and my salvation shall not tarry: and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory" (Isaiah 46:11-13).

The "ravenous bird from the east" is descriptive of the end-time battles that begin with Gog and Magog and conclude at Armageddon. Ezekiel 39 tells us that God will use birds to eat the flesh of the slain upon the battlefield. John also describes the scene for us in Revelation 19. This is a part of the "end" in the plan that God declares. And why are we told about it? Because the "stouthearted that are far from righteousness" must be made to understand God's ancient plan for Lucifer's defeat. The primary purpose for declaring His ancient plan is so that we might use it as proof for convincing a skeptical mankind. We should use the study of eschatology to reach the lost with the Gospel.

In fact, every person who has ever received Christ has done so in order to settle his or her future destiny. Therefore, prophecy (a view of the future) is at the root of every conversion.

The Name of Jesus

The term "salvation" is used twice in Isaiah 46:13. The Hebrew root in each case spells the ancient name of Jesus. God is saying, "my Jesus shall not tarry…." He promises to "place Jesus in Zion…." The passage starts out by saying, "I am God, and there is none else" and concludes by naming Jesus as the author of "salvation."

Yes, Jesus is God of very God. There should be no doubt as to the deity of Christ. He is the embodiment — the essence of the Godhead. He was willing to identify Himself with man in order to reconcile both the heavens and the earth.

Types and Symbols

In order to explain His ancient plan to the believer while, at the same time, hiding it from the prying eyes of Lucifer, God used types and symbols. For example, Adam displayed characteristics that allude to the "last Adam" Jesus Christ. Adam identified with his wife and took her sin upon himself in order to effect her salvation. In like manner, Christ took our sin upon Himself and died to effect our redemption.

Joseph was rejected and later accepted as the redeemer of his people — an excellent type of Christ.

Ruth was a Gentile bride who married the "kinsman redeemer." She displayed the characteristics of New Testament Christianity.

The Old Testament is filled with many such stories, demonstrating that God "declared the end from the beginning." As you study the stories of the Old Testament, look for the plan. It is there.
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"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places" (Ephesians 6:12).

[Harlan Norris]

Oh aha, because I couldn't find the category for Christians to post questions.. so yea :)

Anyway, I wanna thanks each of every of you here, for spending the effort to answer my questions. Thanks :P

Qus8: Since jealousy is a sin. But why God is a jealous God? Furthermore why should he be jealous over Gods that didn't even exist in the first place?Is it jealousy, or covetousness. I believe it's, Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors land house wife ect. When God says that he is a jealous God, he means that if you were to worship any other god, You would be worsiping a manifestaion of satan.

[If Not For Grace]

Satan/Lucifer used to be a very prominent figure in heaven some liken to the minister of music and was called the envy of heaven. Most believe "pride cometh before a fall" and Jesus said He was there when Lucifer was cast out of heaven, God Showed mercy to Satan by postponing judgement/punishment.

We (Adom ) too have received that same Mercy. Not everything is Satan's blame to bear. We are guilty of doing things we know better or not doing the things we KNOW WE SHOULD and blame the "devil".

I believe in my human brain sin would have happened somewhere regardless, but not everyone has to be deceived every time. We have forgiveness and mercy shown to us and should show it to others in kind.

[IvanOng]

I see... after reading through your replies, I learnt alot. Once again, Thanks a million:clap: - you all helped me alot. Here comes the next 3 qus:

Qus9: We know God sent his 1 and only son to die for our sins, does this shows that he loves us more than Jesus? Or God's love for everyone is equal?

Qus10: Why is Satan so stupid? Why doesn't he wanna surrender and repent? By now, he should have seen many great powers demonstrated by God and he can never win them.. Because of God's almighty, he's now an ugly beast and the guardian of Hell which Im sure he doesn't want it in the past. Isnt Satan courting its own death? Finally Satan knows that God is going to destroy him in the end? He knows anything about the relevation?

Qus11: Why can't some Christians receive the gift of tongues? Im referring to those who asked for it. Doesn't the bible mentions that when u seek, u will receive.. Is it because due to the lacking of faith? Doubts? Or that patience is the key? Or we can't simply request something from God which he never intend to give even with the right motive? [Well im 1 of them, all my cellgroup members are able to, im the only one who couldn't even after my cellgroup leader prayed 2 times for me, can any1 tells me what is it that Im lacking of and what is required of me in order to receive it] :scratch:

[Emmy]

Dear dyanm, I only saw the question 9, 10, and 11. and here are my answers. 9. God is Love and Love cannot be little or big, Love is Love. Jesus is part of God: God-Son, He died out of love for all men and women. 10. I don`t think Satan is slow in the uptake dyanm, I believe he is so filled with himself and pride, that he hopes to win in the end, but Jesus vanquished Satan on Golgotha. 11. I know a number of Christian men and women, myself included, who do not speak in tongues, and I must admit that I have never felt strongly about it, one way or another.If you really want to be able to, keep on asking the Lord, remember the parable about the widow and the judge? She kept asking to be seen by him, and made a bit of a nuisance of herself, but the judge did see her in the end, just so that she stopped bothering him. Sincere greetings from Emmy, sister in Christ.

[IvanOng]

I need help... it seems that many of my prayers are unanswered even I asked it faithfully and with the right motive. Im wondering what's wrong with me.. Is there anything I could do to build up my FAITH towards God and anything for me to exercise my FAITH?

Is it true that by reading the Bible reguarly is the solution to all my current problems? My current problems are that I can't accept gift of tongue(has been 1 and a half month) and I cant fall even the Pastors lay their hands on me which I supposely to fall(2 times) when the presence of God would fall upon me.I seriously need help and advice.... What's WRONG with me? Please guide me.. Thanks alot

[IvanOng]

God bless you for helpin me :amen:
For your info, Im only a Christian for 1 and a half month... still adapting..

[Adstar]

I see... after reading through your replies, I learnt alot. Once again, Thanks a million:clap: - you all helped me alot. Here comes the next 3 qus:

Qus9: We know God sent his 1 and only son to die for our sins, does this shows that he loves us more than Jesus? Or God's love for everyone is equal?


i am happy that you are getting something from the answers to your questions :)

Well the question is just what is the nature of Jesus? Jesus is the Word.

John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


Before we can compare Gods love for us with His love for Jesus we must understand just who Jesus is.. Can any human understand just who Jesus is?




Qus10: Why is Satan so stupid? Why doesn't he wanna surrender and repent? By now, he should have seen many great powers demonstrated by God and he can never win them.. Because of God's almighty, he's now an ugly beast and the guardian of Hell which Im sure he doesn't want it in the past. Isnt Satan courting its own death? Finally Satan knows that God is going to destroy him in the end? He knows anything about the relevation?



he's now an ugly beast and the guardian of Hell

satan is not the guardian of hell. satan will be cast into the eternal lake of fire and he will be tormented just like everyone else who ends up there. The "popular" image of satan being some kind of king of hell has more to do with paganisim than the Bible.

Revelation 20
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.



satan thought he had a shot at achieving his desire. He thought he could out smart God by undermining Gods creation, that he could demonstrate a failure of God. But God knows the beginning and the end. satans sabatarge brought about Gods intervention through the Messiah Jesus. It is this intervention that demonstrated the greatness of God and sealed satans doom. satan still has the ability to work through those on earth who have his rebellious spirit against God, But satan is like a suicide bomber waving at the surrounding crowd enticing them closer with promises of desires fulfilled. satan knows he is doomed his only focus now is to take as many people as he can deceive with him.

Revelation 12
10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”


satan knows he is doomed. he knows his time is short.




Qus11: Why can't some Christians receive the gift of tongues? Im referring to those who asked for it. Doesn't the bible mentions that when u seek, u will receive.. Is it because due to the lacking of faith? Doubts? Or that patience is the key? Or we can't simply request something from God which he never intend to give even with the right motive? [Well im 1 of them, all my cellgroup members are able to, im the only one who couldn't even after my cellgroup leader prayed 2 times for me, can any1 tells me what is it that Im lacking of and what is required of me in order to receive it] :scratch:


The bible makes it clear that there are a number of gifts and tounges is just one.

1 corinthians 12
4 There are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5 There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord. 6 And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works all in all. 7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all: 8 for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the sameSpirit, 10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. 11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.

We can ask for this or for that but the Spirit gives to each one a different gift as the Spirit deems fit. So we should not place one gift above others it is carnal thinking to think that "tongues is" greater than "word of knowledge" or "prophesy" different people recieve different things.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

[little_tigress]

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[IvanOng]

Dear brothers and sisters, what should I pray b4 having a meal? And I have trouble understanding MATTHEW15:21-28... why isit that Jesus said she has great faith? I don't understand it..

[IvanOng]

Why is Jesus referred as Son of David too? David is referring to the name of the God or his early father?

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It's good to find you again. They moved your post. I am happy to find you again.


Dear brothers and sisters, what should I pray b4 having a meal? ..

Just say thanks in some way. what ever you say, mean it.




And I have trouble understanding MATTHEW15:21-28... why isit that Jesus said she has great faith? I don't understand it


Matthew 15
21 Then Jesus went out from there and departed to the region of Tyre and Sidon. 22 And behold, a woman of Canaan came from that region and cried out to Him, saying, “Have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David! My daughter is severely demon-possessed.” 23 But He answered her not a word. And His disciples came and urged Him, saying, “Send her away, for she cries out after us.” 24 But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” 25 Then she came and worshiped Him, saying, “Lord, help me!” 26 But He answered and said, “It is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the little dogs.” 27 And she said, “Yes, Lord, yet even the little dogs eat the crumbs which fall from their masters’ table.” 28 Then Jesus answered and said to her, “O woman, great is your faith! Let it be to you as you desire.” And her daughter was healed from that very hour.

This passage of scripture brought me to tears when i first read it. I could feel the deep love Jesus had for the woman when he said "O woman great is your faith".

I believe the whole purpose of this encounter was for the benefit of the Jews that followed Jesus. The woman showed no only great faith in Jesus but also was prepared to humble herself even after being insulted for the love of her Child.

Jesus came to give the message of salvation to the Jews it was only after the majority of the Jews rejected His message that the Word went out to the Gentiles. The woman was not a Jew. that’s why Jesus said “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” And referred to the Children (Jews) and the dogs (Gentile children) His word and His healing where for the Jews first. But the woman’s faith and love was a lesson to the Jews.

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Why is Jesus referred as Son of David too? David is referring to the name of the God or his early father?

Jesus talked about this himself.

Matthew 22
41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42 saying, “What do you think about the Christ? Whose Son is He?”
They said to Him, “ The Son of David.”

43 He said to them, “How then does David in the Spirit call Him ‘Lord,’ saying:
44 ‘ The LORD said to my Lord, “ Sit at My right hand,Till I make Your enemies Your footstool”’?
45 If David then calls Him ‘Lord,’ how is He his Son?” 46 And no one was able to answer Him a word, nor from that day on did anyone dare question Him anymore.

Jesus by having Mary as his flesh mother was a descendant of David. But Jesus is the Word Of God and existed before David.

"in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God"




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[IvanOng]

Thanks alot Adstar, you have helped me alot :D I truly appreciate it. For the qus regarding the faith of the woman I asked previously, after reading your answer. Doesn't that means I will have more trouble in reading the bible next time, because certain words represent certain things.(e.g lost lamb of Israel = Jews)< and I believe there are many more symbolic words. Then what should I do? Is there any websites that provide the entire list of symbolic words? You know what I mean, Adstar?

[IvanOng]

Who's Elijah? Jesus shouted that name before he died and I think he's referring to his Heavenly Father right? Is the Lord's name Elijah? And I also read it from else where through the bible that his name is Krishna? Aren't he nameless?

Another question is regarding the Bible. Can anyone here describe to me how's the Bible is formed?(In detail). Who written all the stories in it? How is the compilation of stories went by?

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Thanks alot Adstar, you have helped me alot :D I truly appreciate it. For the qus regarding the faith of the woman I asked previously, after reading your answer. Doesn't that means I will have more trouble in reading the bible next time, because certain words represent certain things.(e.g lost lamb of Israel = Jews)< and I believe there are many more symbolic words. Then what should I do? Is there any websites that provide the entire list of symbolic words? You know what I mean, Adstar?

The bible does use symbolism to give meaning to the Word. But the same symbol is not always used to represent the exact same thing. And not all symbolic words are always symbols. Sometimes Rain means rain. Sometimes a mountain is just that, a physical mountain.

The safest way to read the Word is to always think of context. One should not become a person who studies the Word by isolating verses. People should read the Bible like a book. If one is going to read a letter from Paul. (in the NT) then read it all and take it as a whole. Of course no amount of reading or no reading technique will give anyone understanding if the Holy Spirit is not there guiding one in understanding.

That’s why we must always ask for God in prayer to guide our reading so that we come to a proper understanding of scriptures.

I'm sure there are websites that would provide a list of interpretations of symbolic Words in the Bible. But i would not trust my salvation and understanding to them.

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Who's Elijah? Jesus shouted that name before he died and I think he's referring to his Heavenly Father right? Is the Lord's name Elijah?

Some people in the crowd did not hear Jesus properly they thought He had cried out to Elijah but he had actually called out to God

Mark 15
33 Now when the sixth hour had come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour. 34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?” which is translated, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”
35 Some of those who stood by, when they heard that, said, “Look, He is calling for Elijah!”





And I also read it from else where through the bible that his name is Krishna? Aren't he nameless?

The name of God is not krishna. God has acceptable titles. Like The God Of Abraham or the Ancient Of Days. If you have a bible that states that the name of God is krishna then you should get rid of that book because it is not a true bible.



Another question is regarding the Bible. Can anyone here describe to me how's the Bible is formed?(In detail). Who written all the stories in it? How is the compilation of stories went by?

I believe in the 66 books of the Bible. I believe they are the inspired word of God because they conform to the Words of Jesus. It does not matter what human being God used to right the truth. Different historians will have differing opinions as to who wrote what but this is a side issue of no importance to me. What is important is the message contained within.

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