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chaadaasj
10th September 2005, 03:17 PM
Some time ago I heard there is a difference between demons and evil spirits. Evil spirits are found in the heavenly places and demons are found in ourselves
Paul says that we do wrestle against ……., ……, spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
So, these spirits are outside us
Do all people wrestle against these powers or especially christians ??
Furthermore, as far as I know, people can carry demons with them which can be castened out in the name of Jesus. These demons are thus not outside us.
Does anybody know why the demons begged to be sent in the herd of swine when Jesus drove them out?? (matt 8:28, mark 5:1, luke 8:26)
What do these demons do? Does everybody carry demons? Can christians be bothered by them? Are there some guidelines for recognizing the destructing power of a demon in your life?
twistedsketch
11th September 2005, 08:21 PM
Some time ago I heard there is a difference between demons and evil spirits. Evil spirits are found in the heavenly places and demons are found in ourselves
Paul says that we do wrestle against ……., ……, spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
So, these spirits are outside us
Do all people wrestle against these powers or especially christians ??
Who told you that?
Furthermore, as far as I know, people can carry demons with them which can be castened out in the name of Jesus. These demons are thus not outside us.
Does anybody know why the demons begged to be sent in the herd of swine when Jesus drove them out?? (matt 8:28, mark 5:1, luke 8:26)
What do these demons do? Does everybody carry demons? Can christians be bothered by them? Are there some guidelines for recognizing the destructing power of a demon in your life?
First, the man in the herd of pigs passage was possessed. You cannot be possessed by a demon because you are possessed by the Holy Spirit. I have heard of spiritual oppression caused by demons but no possession. Jesus protects you so long as you don't intentionally get into occult activities.
Second, they may exist outside of you and tempt/scare you but they must flee in the name of Jesus.
Third, they vie for your attention so they can tempt you more and scare you more. This would be to manipulate you into falling into an even bigger trap. So shift your attention to Jesus. When your eyes are on Him, they don't have your attention so they cannot accomplish their missions.
Aningat
17th September 2005, 10:22 AM
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Honibee
21st September 2005, 06:52 PM
Hi Chaadaasj, :wave:
These are very good questions you bring up. I agree that
Christians cannot be possessed. Where demons may have an
advantage over the new believer is that a new believer may
not yet realize who he/she is in Christ. It's like the enemy
to take advantage of that. The truth is- evil spirits have NO
power over a christian. They can only hope to sneak their
way in unnoticed. But those who know God and are growing
in Him, need not fear the enemy. Stay in the Word, it will
show you who you are.
njcl
21st September 2005, 11:25 PM
firstly your view on the "SPIRITUAL WICKEDNESS IN HIGH PLACES" does not mean demons although they might exist there,it means a heirarchy of devilish heaven where people who are evil their spirits live there,the opposite of "HAVING MADE US SIT DOWN IN HEAVENLY PLACES" the christian spirit lives there
hope this helps
Adstar
21st September 2005, 11:36 PM
Some time ago I heard there is a difference between demons and evil spirits. Evil spirits are found in the heavenly places and demons are found in ourselves
Paul says that we do wrestle against ……., ……, spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
So, these spirits are outside us
Do all people wrestle against these powers or especially christians ??
Furthermore, as far as I know, people can carry demons with them which can be castened out in the name of Jesus. These demons are thus not outside us.
Does anybody know why the demons begged to be sent in the herd of swine when Jesus drove them out?? (matt 8:28, mark 5:1, luke 8:26)
What do these demons do? Does everybody carry demons? Can christians be bothered by them? Are there some guidelines for recognizing the destructing power of a demon in your life?
When a person accepts Jesus as their savior their body become a temple of the Holy Spirit. That means the Holy Spirit dwells within them. Christians are therefore carrying the Holy Spirit. So while i believe demons can be used by satan to attack Christians i believe the attack is always from the outside not from within . Because there is no way the Holy Spirit will share its Temple (a Christian) with a demon. If someone is possessed by a demon then they are controlled to a varying extent by that demon. We can be affected by the actions of demons but we cannot be possessed/controlled by demons.
These demons are thus not outside us.
Does anybody know why the demons begged to be sent in the herd of swine when Jesus drove them out??
Maybe the alternative destination was far more terrible then the swine? You will read that the pigs immediately ran to their deaths into the sea. So maybe their reprieve was only a momentary thing?
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