Russian Mission in Europe?

[rafaeldaher]

Yes! Good news. :clap:

I want missions in Brazil too. :thumbsup:

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Union of Orthodox Citizens appeals to Alexy II to break all relations with the Vatican and start missionary work in Europe and America



Moscow, August 23, Interfax - As the Uniates have become more active in Ukraine the Orthodox public have appealed to Patriarch Alexy of Moscow and All Russia to end all relations with the Roman Catholic Church and begin missionary work in Europe and America.

‘It is necessary to accept in the fold of the Orthodox Church all the Old Catholic communities who wish to join it, to establish a Russian Orthodox school for training Latin-rite clergy for service in Europe and America and to develop intensive Orthodox missionary work there’, an appeal of the Union of Orthodox Citizens to Patriarch Alexy states.

The authors of the appeal, the text of which was given to Interfax, believe that any relations with the Vatican should be interrupted since the Catholic Church is believed to use them only for her own purposes.

‘In our view, any agreement with the RCC pursues exclusively the Vatican’s interests and prevents the Church of Christ from carrying out the service commanded by the Lord. There is only one way to beat a card-sharper - not to sit at a card-table with him’, the Union of Orthodox Citizens maintains.

[Khaleas]

Yes! Good news. :clap:

I want missions in Brazil too. :thumbsup:

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Union of Orthodox Citizens appeals to Alexy II to break all relations with the Vatican and start missionary work in Europe and America



Moscow, August 23, Interfax - As the Uniates have become more active in Ukraine the Orthodox public have appealed to Patriarch Alexy of Moscow and All Russia to end all relations with the Roman Catholic Church and begin missionary work in Europe and America.

‘It is necessary to accept in the fold of the Orthodox Church all the Old Catholic communities who wish to join it, to establish a Russian Orthodox school for training Latin-rite clergy for service in Europe and America and to develop intensive Orthodox missionary work there’, an appeal of the Union of Orthodox Citizens to Patriarch Alexy states.

The authors of the appeal, the text of which was given to Interfax, believe that any relations with the Vatican should be interrupted since the Catholic Church is believed to use them only for her own purposes.

‘In our view, any agreement with the RCC pursues exclusively the Vatican’s interests and prevents the Church of Christ from carrying out the service commanded by the Lord. There is only one way to beat a card-sharper - not to sit at a card-table with him’, the Union of Orthodox Citizens maintains.

:thumbsup:
I saw a car today with a bumper sticker saying:

I love Old Latin Mass

[rafaeldaher]

:thumbsup:
I saw a car today with a bumper sticker saying:

I love Old Latin Mass

Cool, very cool. I want one :thumbsup:

[Rilian]

This is all about politics in Ukraine. The UoOC is well aware of the fact that the Patriarchate is not going to engage in missionary work in the West. They are just directing their anger at the EC's in the western Oblasts.

I imagine they are in a better mood today seeing as Yuschenko essentially sacked his entire government.

[Orthodox Andrew]

Many Protestants are doing missions in Brazil. Why not us too?

[Marjorie]

Rafael,

I know someone named Felipe who is a recent convert to Orthodoxy in Brazil... ROCOR... I can't remember what city he's in, but mayhap you know him?

Anyway, yeah, missions in Brazil would be awesome.

In IC XC,
Marjorie

[rafaeldaher]

Rafael,

I know someone named Felipe who is a recent convert to Orthodoxy in Brazil... ROCOR... I can't remember what city he's in, but mayhap you know him?

Anyway, yeah, missions in Brazil would be awesome.



Yep! I know him! He is my friend :thumbsup: . He goes to the parisher of the Holy Trinity, in São Paulo. Im of ROCOR too, but i go to the Cathedral of Saint Nicholas, more close to my house.

[xristos.anesti]

I think it's time to stop playing this game with the Latins and go all out and start converting all and everywhere, even in the middle of Vatican.

God knows, they have been doing it for years.

[Marjorie]

Yep! I know him! He is my friend :thumbsup: . He goes to the parisher of the Holy Trinity, in São Paulo. Im of ROCOR too, but i go to the Cathedral of Saint Nicholas, more close to my house.

Wow, awesome! I haven't seen him online for a while but tell him I said hi when you see him next.

In IC XC,
Marjorie

[Lotar]

That'd be cool.

But, is the MP even in the position to do such a thing? I thought they already have their hands full as it is.

[rafaeldaher]

I think it's time to stop playing this game with the Latins and go all out and start converting all and everywhere, even in the middle of Vatican.

God knows, they have been doing it for years.

:clap:

[Rilian]

That'd be cool.

But, is the MP even in the position to do such a thing? I thought they already have their hands full as it is.

They're not, and they have unfortunately pretty much given up on being a mission church. There are a handful of MP parishes left in the states which may remain in that status, but they effectively turned mission work over to the Metropolia when they granted autonomous status to what became the OCA.

There is a MP presence in Western Europe, but it has always been there for basically one reason - to serve the Russian diaspora. They will take converts, but they don't go out and seek them.

A few other factors are also at play. One is that there has been a tendency in the MP to stress identification of Orthodoxy with national identity. That in itself is something that cuts at the very heart of the missionary spirit. Another is that the MP has decried loudly Catholic expansion in Russia, and to turn around and play the same game would put them in a position of having to stop complaining or trying to fend off that expansion. Lastly the Russian church has its work cut out for it just regaining its footing after years of terrible repression and in a society that is overwhelmingly secular.

The main missionary churches right now I would say are the Antiochians and the ROCOR.