What is the history of "Bible Only?"

[gtsecc]

What is the history of this idea?

[Flynmonkie]

Really good question! I wanted to hang out and see the responses on this one! :)

[Joykins]

It was a Reformation idea. I think it originated with Luther but am not completely certain.

[BBAS 64]

What is the history of this idea?

Good Day, Gtsecc

Define "bible only", that will help to answer the question.

Peace to u,

Bill

[Ragamuffins]

The idea that the Bible is our final authority.

[seebs]

Sola Scriptura is Luther's invention.

[MrJim]

Hey I'd like to say that the anabaptists were a part of this but in my grubby paws I hold the Complete Works of Menno Simons and he quotes a fair amount of the apocrypha along with canon treating it as equal.

I wonder if Luther or Calvin-oh wait, I picked up Calvin's Institutes of Christian Religion and while not many he too quotes the apocrypha.

So maybe the question gets extended into this: If the reformers viewed the scripture in 3 parts (OT/NT/Apoc) then when did that stop and the practice of Sola Scriptura Version 2.0 (OT/NT only) begin?

[BBAS 64]

Sola Scriptura is Luther's invention.

Good Day, Seebs

I would strongly disagree, this asssumes you have a solid understanding of what Sola Scriptura is.

Athanasius (297-373): Vainly then do they run about with the pretext that they have demanded Councils for the faith’s sake; for divine Scripture is sufficient above all things; but if a Council be needed on the point, there are the proceedings of the Fathers, for the Nicene Bishops did not neglect this matter, but stated the doctrine so exactly, that persons reading their words honestly, cannot but be reminded by them of the religion towards Christ announced in divine Scripture. NPNF2: Vol. IV, Councils of Ariminum and Seleucia, Part I History of the Councils, §6.



Peace to u,

Bill

[BBAS 64]

The idea that the Bible is our final authority.

Good Day, Ragamuffins

We could start here:

If custom is to be taken in proof of what is right, then it is certainly competent for me to put forward on my side the custom which obtains here. If they reject this, we are clearly not bound to follow them. Therefore let God-inspired Scripture decide between us; and on whichever side be found doctrines in harmony with the word of God, in favor of that side will be cast the vote of truth.
St Basil letters clxxxix

And then contrast,

Cardinal, now Pope Joseph Ratzinger : while commenting on the documents of Vatican II (article nine of Dei verbum), stated that “no one is seriously able to maintain that there is a proof in Scripture for every catholic doctrine.” See Joseph Ratzinger’s “The Transmission of Divine Revelation” in Herbert Vorgrimler, ed., Commentary on the Documents of Vatican II (New York: Herder and Herder, 1969), Vol. 3, p. 195.


It may be fun, :cool:

Peace to u,

Bill

[Joykins]

The Baptist church we attended in Graz, Austria read from some of the deuterocanonical books on occasion (according to my parents, who had never been exposed to it before and found it slightly surprising).

[gtsecc]

When Basil refers to scripture, does he mean just the OT?

[BBAS 64]

When Basil refers to scripture, does he mean just the OT?

Good Day, gtsecc

Not sure why that would be germaine at this stage. What do you mean by "bible only"?


Peace to u,

Bill