Shalom y'all :)

[Henaynei]

Just dropping by to say HI :) http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_39.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824BCUS) and maybe meet some folks ;)
and of course, to kibbitz ;)

[A New Dawn]

Hello Henaynei! Nice of you to drop in. Please tell us what your favorite pass-time is, next to moderating here at CF, of course! :)

[carmi]

Just dropping by to say HI :) http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_39.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824BCUS) and maybe meet some folks ;)
and of course, to kibbitz ;)

Ach ... each time I see your name I get homesick

[Henaynei]

Hello Henaynei! Nice of you to drop in. Please tell us what your favorite pass-time is, next to moderating here at CF, of course! :)Nice to meet you Jenda :wave:

if I had the time and money, horseback riding - since I don't have either - my lap top computer - learning things out on the web and researching what ever strikes my fancy ;)

[Henaynei]

Ach ... each time I see your name I get homesickI'm sorry..... :( why is that?

[Ceris]

And is there anything in paticular that strikes your research fancy recently?

[carmi]

I'm sorry..... :( why is that?

No need to be sorry. I just spent some wonderful years in Israel. I don't see a possibility for a visit in the near futur.

So, it's great to have a forum to be able to meet people from Israel.

[allieisme]

:wave:'s at Henaynei!

[Henaynei]

And is there anything in particular that strikes your research fancy recently?hmm... let me go look at my bookmarks.....well most recently I have been collecting web sites on hurricane info - oh yeah, and I spent some time reviewing some Creation Science sites :)

AND I'm still trying to figure out the bill pay feature on my new bank's site - grrr ;)

[Henaynei]

No need to be sorry. I just spent some wonderful years in Israel. I don't see a possibility for a visit in the near futur.

So, it's great to have a forum to be able to meet people from Israel.

here:
http://www.md.huji.ac.il/vjt/

window on the Wall (http://www.aish.com/wallcam/default.asp)

Topical Satellite view of Israel (http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/Images/modis_near_east_lrg.jpg)

a little something to enjoy ;)

[carmi]

a little something to enjoy ;)

:clap: I enjoyed it a lot. Thanks.

And now I have something to add to my bookmarks :cool:

[Redeemed_Warrior]

Shalom

What you favoite Jewish recipe :) i love to cook :)

G_Dbless
Richard

[Lena75]

Dropping in to say hi! :wave:

[stranger]

Shalom

2Sam 7:23 And what one nation in the earth is like thy people, even like Israel, whom God went to redeem for a people to himself, and to make him a name, and to do for you great things and terrible, for thy land, before thy people, which thou redeemedst to thee from Egypt, from the nations and their gods?
24 For thou hast confirmed to thyself thy people Israel to be a people unto thee for ever: and thou, LORD, art become their God.

I pray for Israel because Jesus [Yeshua?] will make Israel a nation of priests and clearly they will minister to the whole world :-

Ex 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

[Israel was never yet a kingdom of priets and it obviously would involve the re-unification of the two Houses ,which Jesus said was the one thing he came to begin by reaching out to the paganised , thus gentile, scattered House of Israel]

Thus how do you see 'strangers' , gentiles , re-joining the nation which the world still mostly only identifies as Jewish [House of Judah only] and which even Jews mostly do not remember the scriptures and understand that their distant cousins are also descendants of Jacob ... that the house of Israel ,though no longer an identifiable nation was and almost ceratinly is, much larger than the House of Judah, the Jews, that there may well be today many times more Israelites than there are Jews...

Such a tragic tale too, the history of Israel, it makes me weep ... how can we be so blinded , how is Israel so blind to the great God Almighty as to continually sin against Him and provoke him to chastise ? .... the irony of it seems to me to be that the blindeness is ALL for God's own purpose... just as God knew full well that Israel would not keep His old covenant with them ... so God is only showing us through us what evil is ... a demo?

Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Shalom

[Henaynei]

Shalom

What you favorite Jewish recipe :) i love to cook :)

G_Dbless
RichardI make a mean Kosher Chicken Soup - but I never use a recipe for anything - except bread making :)





Saute to sweat.....
oregano
thyme
bay leaf
tons of fresh garlic
1-2 large sweet onions
1 hand fresh ginger minced
olive oil

add chicken stock, bouillon or water to stew chicken
add 1 chicken (I use a kosher one but it is not necessary for most folk;) )
stew chicken to about half done (if you prefer to bone the chicken, cook until done, remove from stock and allow to cool while veggies below are cooking - bone when cool enough to handle and add back in to reheat before serving...)

add to stock
several potatoes chunky cubed
one sweet potatoe chunky cubed
1-2 lbs "baby" carrots or chunky cubed
2 parsnips (aka white carrots - but not) - a must - chunky cubed
pepper if you like

cook until done

add fresh parsley and stew until wilted

sometimes I put in a lemon or lemon juice especially if I'm making it for someone with a cold.....you'd be amazed at the taste - but don't use too much until you are sure you will like it ;) - I'd hate to ruin your chicken soup http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/995v.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824BCUS)

all portions are approximate - and the ingredients and spices an approximation - I've never made exactly the same thing twice in my life :sigh:

[Henaynei]

Shalom

I pray for Israel because Jesus [Yeshua?] will make Israel a nation of priests and clearly they will minister to the whole world :-)

Ex 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

[Israel was never yet a kingdom of priets and it obviously would involve the re-unification of the two Houses ,which Jesus said was the one thing he came to begin by reaching out to the paganised , thus gentile, scattered House of Israel]

Thus how do you see 'strangers' , gentiles , re-joining the nation which the world still mostly only identifies as Jewish [House of Judah only] and which even Jews mostly do not remember the scriptures and understand that their distant cousins are also descendants of Jacob ... that the house of Israel ,though no longer an identifiable nation was and almost ceratinly is, much larger than the House of Judah, the Jews, that there may well be today many times more Israelites than there are Jews...

Such a tragic tale too, the history of Israel, it makes me weep ... how can we be so blinded , how is Israel so blind to the great God Almighty as to continually sin against Him and provoke him to chastise ? .... the irony of it seems to me to be that the blindeness is ALL for God's own purpose... just as God knew full well that Israel would not keep His old covenant with them ... so God is only showing us through us what evil is ... a demo?

Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Shalom I don't mean to be disagreeable but I strongly disagree with the Ephriamite doctrine - so I'll refrain from answering this further :) I just didn't want you to think I either didn't see it or ignored you :hug:

[Henaynei]

Dropping in to say hi! :wave: hey there :wave: :thumbsup:

[insaneinthebrain]

Dropping in to say hi! :wave:
Are you still around? :P

[CPman2004]

Haha. I don't have a particluar question by I just have to say that the "Shalom y'all" Is funny, since I never imagined them ever being used together ;)

[Lena75]

Are you still around? :PMe? Of course I'm still around! :P Kiddies are all asleep and hubby's channel-surfing so I have some free time here. Thanks for the concern. :P :D

[Henaynei]

Haha. I don't have a particluar question by I just have to say that the "Shalom y'all" Is funny, since I never imagined them ever being used together ;) shhhh.... http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_112.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824BCUS) It's what they say in Southern Israel http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/11/11_4_124v.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824BCUS)

[CPman2004]

awsome :cool:

[carmi]

shhhh.... http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_112.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824BCUS) It's what they say in Southern Israel http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/11/11_4_124v.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824BCUS)

What do they say in Northern Israel?

[Henaynei]

"cup o' tea?"

;)

[stranger]

I don't mean to be disagreeable but I strongly disagree with the Ephriamite doctrine - so I'll refrain from answering this further :) I just didn't want you to think I either didn't see it or ignored you :hug:

So I don't even know what the "Ephraimite doctrine" is ... but what do you disagree with so strongly if anything in what I pointed at in scripture and why ?

[Henaynei]

Ephriamite Doctrine aka Two house doctrine - states, among other things, that the Jews are the "house of Judah" and so they are "not really Israel" and that the rest of Israel is either "missing" or scattered among what have otherwise been considered the gentile nations....

If you have further questions please refer here: The Ephraimite Error: A Short Summary (http://www.mjaa.org/biblicaljudaism/EphraimiteErrorSummary.html), or The Ephraimite Error (http://www.mjaa.org/biblicaljudaism/EphraimiteError.pdf) (this is the full paper) - two position papers of the Messianic Judaism Alliance of America on this topic :)

This is a fellowship thread :) and I chose to refrain from this particular topic as I hold diametrically oppositional views on it and prefer to not discuss it here :) thank you ..... :)

[carmi]

hmm... let me go look at my bookmarks.....

Talking about bookmarks and since you provided me with some great links to add to my bookmarks ... and this is how I reward you for your kindness :blush: :

There are those who just add links randomly.
There are those who keep them in alphabetical order.
And there is me who makes folders for different topics, and files the links accordingly ... and losing bookmarks that way because I can't remember that and/or where I put them.

What kind of bookmark person are you? It's not a question of "tell me about your bookmarks and I tell you what kind of person you are" ... more like learning from others :)

[Henaynei]

I have probably 2000 or more (it is only a guess) bookmarks - in folders sometimes 4-5 subfolders deep - and truly wish there was a utility to ferret out the broken links and find where the pages have moved for I do not idly mark pages but have a purpose for everyone ;)

[A New Dawn]

I have probably 2000 or more (it is only a guess) bookmarks - in folders sometimes 4-5 subfolders deep - and truly wish there was a utility to ferret out the broken links and find where the pages have moved for I do not idly mark pages but have a purpose for everyone ;)
Are bookmarks the same as favorites? Cuz I don't know how to make folders in my favorites. :scratch:

[carmi]

I have probably 2000 or more (it is only a guess) bookmarks - in folders sometimes 4-5 subfolders deep - and truly wish there was a utility to ferret out the broken links and find where the pages have moved for I do not idly mark pages but have a purpose for everyone ;)

I see

2000

that's all I can see for the time being. Once I stop looking in awe at the 2000, I'll have a look at the rest of your post.

[carmi]

Are bookmarks the same as favorites? Cuz I don't know how to make folders in my favorites. :scratch:

If you are talking about CF favorite threads, you can make folders by

- going to your UserCP
- click on "View all Subscribed Threads"
- on top of all the threads listed you'll see "jump to folders" and under it is "Edit Folders".
- click Edit Folders and you'll be able to give names for your folders

- then you can go back to "View all Subscribed Threads", check the threads you want to put in that folder and then choose from the drop down menue below "move to folder"

- once you have folders and you see a new thread that you want to put there ... before posting, click on "thread tools" and there on "subscribe" ... it will ask you in which folder you want the tread to appear.

[Henaynei]

Are bookmarks the same as favorites? Cuz I don't know how to make folders in my favorites. :scratch::) click on "favorites" on your toolbar; you'll see "add to Favorites" and "organize Favorites" - click on Organize; there you will find the option to "Create a Folder" ; make your folder and then drag and drop the book marks you want there


beware


it can be addictive ;)

[A New Dawn]

:) click on "favorites" on your toolbar; you'll see "add to Favorites" and "organize Favorites" - click on Organize; there you will find the option to "Create a Folder" ; make your folder and then drag and drop the book marks you want there


beware


it can be addictive ;)
Wow! Here I was holding at about 100 because I was losing stuff and it was taking me so long to go through.

Thanks! :hug:

[Henaynei]

LOL- I just counted - I have 41 first level bookmark folders - including one for CF (of course), Homepages of friends & associates and sushi ;)

[stranger]

Ephriamite Doctrine aka Two house doctrine - states, among other things, that the Jews are the "house of Judah" and so they are "not really Israel" and that the rest of Israel is either "missing" or scattered among what have otherwise been considered the gentile nations....

If you have further questions please refer here: The Ephraimite Error: A Short Summary (http://www.mjaa.org/biblicaljudaism/EphraimiteErrorSummary.html), or The Ephraimite Error (http://www.mjaa.org/biblicaljudaism/EphraimiteError.pdf) (this is the full paper) - two position papers of the Messianic Judaism Alliance of America on this topic :)

This is a fellowship thread :) and I chose to refrain from this particular topic as I hold diametrically oppositional views on it and prefer to not discuss it here :) thank you ..... :)

Where would be an appropriate place to discuss it ... like jesus I actually have no problem discussing things in fellowship with those who hold other views than my own... we can love and fellowship with all men of all persuasions , God is the only one with all knowledge , not us ...

Clearly there is much in the OT that speaks against you view but as a taster though I would simply quote :-

Am 9:9 For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.

Isa 7:8 For the head of Syria is Damascus, and the head of Damascus is Rezin; and within threescore and five years shall Ephraim be broken, that it be not a people.

--- The Jews were never 'not a people' ... thus Ephraim were never Jews ... yet Ephraim is not lost forever, God actually sends Jesus ONLY to the lost House of Israel ... not one is lost forever ... and the House of israel eventyually makes the jews jealous by their knowledge of the messiah the Jews mostly still await ...

De 32:21 They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.

1Pe 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

[carmi]

Where would be an appropriate place to discuss it ...

I don't know whether it's THE place but the General Theology forum might be a starting point.

[stranger]

I don't know whether it's THE place but the General Theology forum might be a starting point.

Its not 'Theology' and its not 'General' ... permit me to explain ....rather its someting very specific to the role of Jesus in being sent to the house of Israel ( [Mt 15:24 ,Mt 10:6 , Ac 2:36 ) in order to EVENTUALLY make the House of Judah jealous ... this then explains why I should like to fellowship with Jews over the understanding thereof because it is specific to them , part of the final acceptannce of the real Jesus and his gospel [not the one of so many religious traditions of men] by the Jews as their Messiah ...

De 32:21 They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.

The Jews have ALWAYS had Judaism to unite them as one nation ... they have never been "not a people" ... there is but one nation that became "not a people" in scripture and yet God still regards them as a "foolish nation" and has promised in the new covenant with Israel to forgive them ... and sent His Son to send forth the gospel that Israel will be re-united , the two Houses as one , and to be the king of the reunited nation ...

Ezekiel, their own prophet of god, is very explicit, the two Houses are still TWO NATIONS and are NOT re-united until the messiah re-unites them into one nation :-

Eze 37:16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then takeANOTHERstick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:
17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.
18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?
19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.
20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.
21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more TWO NATIONS, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.
24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.
25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children’s children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.
26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
28 And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, WHEN my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel AND with the house of Judah:

Jer 33:14 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will perform that good thing which I have promised unto the house of Israel AND to the house of Judah.

Zec 8:13 And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, AND house of Israel; so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong.

Ho 11:12 Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit: but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints. [these then are distict nations to Hosea]

[carmi]

Its not 'Theology' and its not 'General' ... rather its someting very specific to the role of jesus in being sent to the house of Israel in order to make the House of Judah jealous ... that I should like to fellowship with Jews over the understanding thereof because it is specific to them , part of the final acceptannce of Jesus by Jews as their Messiah ...



I do believe Henaynei gave a perfect reply in a previous post

and prefer to not discuss it here :) thank you ..... :)

I also believe that hers is not an unreasonable request.

She is doing her job and in addition she makes time for us to get to know her (as the other mods do here) as a person.

CF provides us with places to get to know different doctrines and to discuss them.

I think of this particular part as a cafeteria where we can all sit together, tables provided by the mods. More like a refreshment time and place to rest from work (moderating, debating, discussing heavy topics).

:)

[PadmeAmidalafan]

Its not 'Theology' and its not 'General' ... permit me to explain ....rather its someting very specific to the role of Jesus in being sent to the house of Israel ( [Mt 15:24 ,Mt 10:6 , Ac 2:36 ) in order to EVENTUALLY make the House of Judah jealous ... this then explains why I should like to fellowship with Jews over the understanding thereof because it is specific to them , part of the final acceptannce of the real Jesus and his gospel [not the one of so many religious traditions of men] by the Jews as their Messiah ...

De 32:21 They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.

The Jews have ALWAYS had Judaism to unite them as one nation ... they have never been "not a people" ... there is but one nation that became "not a people" in scripture and yet God still regards them as a "foolish nation" and has promised in the new covenant with Israel to forgive them ... and sent His Son to send forth the gospel that Israel will be re-united , the two Houses as one , and to be the king of the reunited nation ...

Ezekiel, their own prophet of god, is very explicit, the two Houses are still TWO NATIONS and are NOT re-united until the messiah re-unites them into one nation :-

Eze 37:16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then takeANOTHERstick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:
17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.
18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?
19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.
20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.
21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more TWO NATIONS, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.
24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.
25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children’s children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.
26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
28 And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, WHEN my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel AND with the house of Judah:

Jer 33:14 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will perform that good thing which I have promised unto the house of Israel AND to the house of Judah.

Zec 8:13 And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, AND house of Israel; so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong.

Ho 11:12 Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit: but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints. [these then are distict nations to Hosea]

The Thread OP requested you do not Post your views here, its a fellowship thread :) Someone might Report you for harrassment:) talking of which a song springs to mind on that last note.

"I could be the one....The one you are looking for^_^ , but its more like I will be the one!:cool:

[stranger]

I do believe Henaynei gave a perfect reply in a previous post

I also believe that hers is not an unreasonable request.

Indeed not, but as I said, I need to know where (as I have specifically requested to know and not yet had definitive reply from those who like to be definitive and push things around the place ) since it seems to me that this indeed is the most appropriate place ... even if you happen to disagree ...

She is doing her job and in addition she makes time for us to get to know her (as the other mods do here) as a person.

Oe can get to know someone by discussing their beliefs , indeed one hardly knows someone without doing so ... the beliefs are an integral part of the persona...

CF provides us with places to get to know different doctrines and to discuss them.

You make the same mistake as she did ... I am not discussing men's doctrines [except to disprove them] , I do not follow any of men's doctrines myself ....even though some people like to put other people into boxes and even climb into boxes themselves, I do NOT ... I do not know enough of the truth of God to have any doctrines, but I know enough NOT to hold rigidly to men's doctrines in place of God's truth ... I seek only fellowship in discussion of the truth as each PERSON individually sees it ... not any of the ongoing war between men's doctrines sold to the masses as religious doctrine to wield power on this earth

Re 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

1Cor 6:12 ¶ All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.
14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.
15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.

[It seems from scripture that 'harlot' is exactly the symbol used in scripture for those who seek the powers of THIS earth :-

Ex 34:15 Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice;

Ho 9:1 Rejoice not, O Israel, for joy, as other people: for thou hast gone a whoring from thy God, thou hast loved a reward upon every cornfloor. ]



I think of this particular part as a cafeteria where we can all sit together, tables provided by the mods. More like a refreshment time and place to rest from work (moderating, debating, discussing heavy topics).

That may indeed be how you view it , but I see that Jesus fellowshipped ,even with sinners or saints , in a different way than that ... tackling the real problems between men and between men and God ... don't see that need be anything less than refresshing and restful , since it leads to resolution of our deepest conflicts... one does not have to get intense about one's transient beliefs of this world :-

1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Where does that leave smalltalk ???

:)

fellowship does not have to be what YOU see it to be does it ??? :) :) :)


May God's grace be to you to suffer my misunderstandings and may he grant you patience to explain better what you expect of fellowship and tolerate those who see things otherwise , until God opens all our eyes to His ONE truth which all will come to glprify Him alone in ....

[stranger]

The Thread OP requested you do not Post your views here, its a fellowship thread :)

I didn't post my views, but rather just some scriptures, and only specifically addressed in reply and explanation of specific points raised ...

Someone might Report you for harrassment:)

That seems less than friendly fellowship to me that you would say such rashly judgmental aggressive things, are u sure that u came here to fellowship? it is not a christian approach you adopt ... but in illustration of the point ,as christian behaviour, I wouldn't dream of reporting you for it even if i thought you were being aggressive and assertive of your own judgment of the situation , but rather continue to try to discuss the matter openly and in friendly atmosphere instead ... :)

talking of which a song springs to mind on that last note.

"I could be the one....The one you are looking for , but its more like I will be the one!

I'm truly glad that there is a song in your life .... but whose words are you singing, why not your own ? :sigh:

[carmi]

Where does that leave smalltalk ???


With them who desire the sincere milk ...

But both - those who desire milk and those who desire meat - enjoy the fruit of the Spirit. Together.

I wish you a peaceful and restful Sunday. :)

[stranger]

With them who desire the sincere milk ...

But both - those who desire milk and those who desire meat - enjoy the fruit of the Spirit. Together.

I wish you a peaceful and restful Sunday. :)

That is interesting, what do you think the 'milk' and the 'meat' of scripture are ?

Are you acknowledging then that both are part of fellowship , but that the meat is the ultimate faith ?

[I cannot personally see any way to identify smalltalk with the 'milk' of scripture , so please explain your comment]

the fruit of the spirit :-

Eph 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

Ga 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Would that not indicate that truth of God in faith , and not just any old acquired faith of mens traditions , is integral to fellowship of the spirit ?

1Jo 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

1Jo 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

Php 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

2 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
3 I thank my God upon every remembrance of you,
4 Always in every prayer of mine for you all making request with joy,
5 For your fellowship in the gospel from the first day until now;
6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

As for Sunday , ironically indeed it is always peaceful around here on Sunday because of men's traditions , almost all keep peace on Sunday it seems

... even though it is clearly a time for work [e.g. as shown to all by the instruction given only to Israel [Ex 20:9]... thus according to scripture and Sunday is not even a day in God's meaning of a day , evening then morning, starting and finishing at sunset in the Holy Land by absolute, not local time [as kept by the Hebrews for instance] ... the problem then is in not receiving the blessing [Gen 2:3] , that many men miss the blessing because some men changed how men keep time and Days, just as Daniel prophesied would happen [Dan 7:25]

Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ ...

[allieisme]

*MOD HAT*
As a CF Support moderator I am asking that we observe this forum for FELLOWSHIP ONLY and not for debating.
If debating is what you are looking for, please visit the appropriate forums.

*MOD HAT OFF*

[KristianJ]

MOD NOTE #2

I regret having to further spoil the intent of this thread, but it appears that it has to be done in order to achieve the purposes of this thread. Let me requote what Henaynei stated earier:


This is a fellowship thread :) and I chose to refrain from this particular topic as I hold diametrically oppositional views on it and prefer to not discuss it here :) thank you ..... :)

This means that it is in the spirit of other threads in the Chat With Staff subforum - you are welcome to get to know CF staff members in a friendly and light-hearted environment. As part of this, it is expected that members respect the right of staff members to "dictate" the theme of their thread. And Henaynei has done so, asking for no theological debate. We're not going to debate what she means by fellowship, so let me reinforce the earlier post by allieisme and ask that if you want to get to know Henaynei and all of us CF staff, ask questions that will not stir debate, or your post may be deleted for breach of Rule 2.1:

2.1 You will not post anything that disrupts the peace and harmony of this forum.

Questioning an official post by a staff member comes under this rule and Rule 7.1. So please respect Henaynei's request, or we may have to take more action than a simple delete of your post. My apologies for the disruptions, Henaynei.

KristianJ
Senior Moderator - CF Support.

[Henaynei]

for those who want to know - but not for debate;)

I was born Episcopalian (i.e. my father's family have been Episcopalian since Adam was a boy;)), attended a High church, was first soprano in the choir for both services every Sunday for many years - I had a personal and audible relationship with Jesus especially when I snuck behind the altar before choir practice and leaned against the back and poured my heart out to Him .... until someone gave me "The Passover Plot" in my early teens... I then came to staunchly believe in G-d "but not the Christian G-d" for many years... I studied Hinduism for a while, investigated numerous "paths" to enlightenment .... even endured a period of audible demonic oppression ... by the time I was in my mid 20's I had been in and out of the Army where I learned a trade no one would hire me for on the outside, deeply involved in the drug culture, had survived for a time by selling my body for a place to live ... in a long-term abusive relationship and had one child out of wedlock who I had surrendered to adoption by a stable loving family... while continuing in the abusive relationship ... worked for an amusement park in their zoo and had a dedicated Christian co-worker pray diligently for me.... eventually I surrendered to G-d one night in September of '77 weeping on my bed but still not knowing if He was real but hoping.... one month later I gave birth to my son, who I could not give up for adoption, although I should have, because of the pain of giving up my first.... but I was still in an abusive relationship... but I was also attending Church with my friend from work, a Evangelical church - and shortly I "received the baptism in the Holy Spirit with evidence of speaking in tongues" ... eventually I moved away from my husband as he would not get into counseling and continued his abuse - even to throttling me with our infant child in my arms screaming... I attended a Full Gospel church for many years and eventually got a divorce after an attempt to reconcile in which he proved to not have nor was willing to change - I went back to school and became a Surgical Technician, and after a few years went to college and became a registered nurse... I attended a Full Gospel Evangelical Pentecostal church for several years, twice on Sunday, every Wednesday and usually several other days of the week... where we had a very active street ministry and where I was in the music ministry and where I met my husband... through all my experiences in the church I seemed to get something different from the sermons and teachings than others sitting with me.... where they heard "the church in the wilderness" when reading about Israel's travels in the desert and the like all I heard was the "church" has wandered away from the full truth.... long before "Jesus was a Jew" became so popular I firmly believed Jesus IS a Jew... and this made a significant difference in how I viewed scripture and practice..... eventually I discovered a Messianic Jewish synagogue and have found a home - my husband is Jewish, I am a goy - We are Messianic :)

[carmi]

"Testimony of sorts" ?

That's some testimony ... thank you for sharing it.

This one :thumbsup: is not enough.

This http://forum.djesi.ba/images/smilies/dup.gif is required here.

[The Julikenz]

for those who want to know - but not for debate;)

I was born Episcopalian (i.e. my father's family have been Episcopalian since Adam was a boy;)), attended a High church, was first soprano in the choir for both services every Sunday for many years - I had a personal and audible relationship with Jesus especially when I snuck behind the altar before choir practice and leaned against the back and poured my heart out to Him .... until someone gave me "The Passover Plot" in my early teens... I then came to staunchly believe in G-d "but not the Christian G-d" for many years... I studied Hinduism for a while, investigated numerous "paths" to enlightenment .... even endured a period of audible demonic oppression ... by the time I was in my mid 20's I had been in and out of the Army where I learned a trade no one would hire me for on the outside, deeply involved in the drug culture, had survived for a time by selling my body for a place to live ... in a long-term abusive relationship and had one child out of wedlock who I had surrendered to adoption by a stable loving family... while continuing in the abusive relationship ... worked for an amusement park in their zoo and had a dedicated Christian co-worker pray diligently for me.... eventually I surrendered to G-d one night in September of '77 weeping on my bed but still not knowing if He was real but hoping.... one month later I gave birth to my son, who I could not give up for adoption, although I should have, because of the pain of giving up my first.... but I was still in an abusive relationship... but I was also attending Church with my friend from work, a Evangelical church - and shortly I "received the baptism in the Holy Spirit with evidence of speaking in tongues" ... eventually I moved away from my husband as he would not get into counseling and continued his abuse - even to throttling me with our infant child in my arms screaming... I attended a Full Gospel church for many years and eventually got a divorce after an attempt to reconcile in which he proved to not have nor was willing to change - I went back to school and became a Surgical Technician, and after a few years went to college and became a registered nurse... I attended a Full Gospel Evangelical Pentecostal church for several years, twice on Sunday, every Wednesday and usually several other days of the week... where we had a very active street ministry and where I was in the music ministry and where I met my husband... through all my experiences in the church I seemed to get something different from the sermons and teachings than others sitting with me.... where they heard "the church in the wilderness" when reading about Israel's travels in the desert and the like all I heard was the "church" has wandered away from the full truth.... long before "Jesus was a Jew" became so popular I firmly believed Jesus IS a Jew... and this made a significant difference in how I viewed scripture and practice..... eventually I discovered a Messianic Jewish synagogue and have found a home - my husband is Jewish, I am a goy - We are Messianic :)

WOW Henaynei, God bless you giving me the pleasure of reading about the LORD's faithfulness. :bow:

May i ask just one question though; what is a goy? :)

[Henaynei]

goy is hebrew for non-Jew, aka gentile ;)

thanks for asking :)

[Paid in full]

Hi Henaynei!
Long time no see!
How are you?

[Henaynei]

Hi Henaynei!
Long time no see!
How are you?Shalom Paid in full,
:wave:
I'm doing well :) and you?

[Paid in full]

Yeah doing good going to college on the 27th very excited!

[Henaynei]

Yeah doing good going to college on the 27th very excited!awesome!! which college; major?

[CPman2004]

What is your favoirte Histoical event or age?

[Henaynei]

What is your favoirte Histoical event or age?OOOooo, that is a kewl question - I'll have to think about that :)

[loribee59]

goy is hebrew for non-Jew, aka gentile ;)

thanks for asking :)

Ogoy...:doh:(yes, that is an intended pun! :P)

If you have a business of your own, what would it be, and why?

[Henaynei]

my husband writes Biblical Science Fiction (with a Golden Age Twist) and Messianic Apologetics (often with a humorous twist) - our business is fledgling and is to create a web presence where e-book versions of his writings can be purchased - we are waiting on some funding to get the softwear from Adobe to encrypt and produce secure forms of the e-books - why - because he is very good and I'm very proud of him ;)

[Paid in full]

awesome!! which college; major?
Southdowns college going to re do my English and Maths GCSE!(See Blog for more details!)

[RED that's ME]

Do you collect anything?

[Henaynei]

books - we have thousands of books - bookcases in the strangest places - books brand new and over 100 years old - classics and pulp....

[carmi]

Is reading books your favorite way of spending a free Friday afternoon?

[Henaynei]

Is reading books your favorite way of spending a free Friday afternoon?some times, though my vision is not what it used to be and that frustrates me..... my free time more often finds me here....;) and the font is scalable! LOL