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Moluku
2nd January 2006, 02:31 PM
Lying as a whole is a sin. It's putting up a falsehood to yourself, those around you, but even more important, God. Lying would be wrong in most cases, but there are cases where lying would be "justified" in the eyes of God. More crucial situations in life or even small trivial times where it was to protect the benefit of another but not speaking hurtful words that do not be heard.

gal4God
5th January 2006, 02:45 PM
No - Lying is a sin!

SearchingintheNight
5th January 2006, 02:46 PM
No, Lying is a sin

handmaiden97
22nd June 2006, 03:24 PM
Lying is wrong....

Do we have to be blatently honest, no ....when someone asks me is I like somethign they are wearing and I dont. Isimply tell them it is not my style, or preference. If they ask why I will explain.

Also when confronting someone we need to be honest but season our words with grace....dont beat them over the head. You do have to lay it all out on the table at once

ChavaK
22nd June 2006, 11:51 PM
I think sometimes it is necessary to not tell the truth either to save someone unnecessary pain, or to help
them in some manner. Other than that, no we should
no lie...

Kims
23rd June 2006, 02:46 AM
Lying is wrong. Sometimes it may be difficult to tell people the truth, but rather the truth told diplomatically then lying.

Happygal
23rd June 2006, 03:29 AM
This is the most difficult sin to overcome

Kolya
23rd June 2006, 07:05 AM
Lying is a sin. But I am still guilty many times a week.

Bunko
23rd June 2006, 07:43 PM
I don't think there is anything wrong with lying if there are good intentions behind it, like sparing someone's feelings.

pplmpeacock
24th June 2006, 10:49 PM
A sin is defined by your conviction. If you feel bad for lieing then you have sinned against yourself, and therefore sinned against God. On the other hand if you lie to protect someone, or just lie and feel conviction for the lie then i do not belive you have sinned.

Miracle Storm
26th June 2006, 10:47 PM
No-a lie is a lie and a lie is a sin.

PonyGirl12
27th June 2006, 09:24 AM
Is lying a sin? Is it okay in some cases? Does it depend on your intentions? Can you deceive someone in a 'good' way? How far can you stretch the truth, or is that also lying? What is going on in John 7:8-10? Would you answer the following questions truthfully?

How old are you?

How much do you weigh?

Do I look fat in this?

Have you ever watched Melrose Place? (For Seinfeld fans)

Lying is never ok.
Why not answer those question truthfully? Unless they are being asked over the internet, but even then, don't lie, just say "I would rather not tell you that."
And is someone asks you if they look fat in something, tell the truth, but tell the truth in LOVE. Don't just come right out and say, Yes, you look fat in that. Find a nice, soft way to tell the truth.
Like, if someone asks you if you like an outfit they have or something, and you don't really like it, just tell them what you like about it.
DON"T lie. The Bible clearly says, "Thou shalt not Lie."
~PonyGirl12

HaNeulDanashrii
30th June 2006, 05:53 AM
If I was hiding Jews in my house and someone asked me directly, "Are you hiding Jews?" I think I would answer something like, "Why would you even ask that?" or "Why would I do that?"

It's not lying, yet not letting on that there is anyone hiding in my house.

I was thinking about the same thing too.'Are you hiding Jews?' 'Yes, under the sofa (the cellar)'.

Lying is the domain of Azazel. Unfortunately is so easy sometimes to give the truth a more 'colourful twist'.

ChrisCountryGirl
3rd July 2006, 05:00 AM
I think it's depends on the situation. Some people ask questions that is NONE of their business, even total strangers. But I'm learning to communicate in a way that it doesn't sound like lying.

angelT17
3rd July 2006, 02:57 PM
Lying is a sin.
Look at Proverbs 6 v 16-17 & Ephesians 4 v 24-25

barbaraclarke
9th August 2006, 06:54 AM
There wasen't one that potrayed exactly how i feel. Let me tell you a story:

In the great world war a christian woman was hiding Jews from the Nazi's in her house, many people had been killed for doing that and she helped hundreds of Jews escape the hands of Hitler. Now i think that we would all agree that that was the right thing (and a very brave thing) to do.

She would have to lie countless times to Soldiers coming around to her house doing searches for these Jews.

I rest my case.

Lying in most cases is wrong but Christianity is more than just following a set of guidelines blindly.

You can't slim it down to right and wrong in this case.

I would say:

No, except in some cases

jimi

In our daily lives in the west llying is definately a sin however
In joshua the story of Rahab who lied to protect the 2 jewish spies , I'm not surre how we deal with those situations but at present this is not an issue for most us who live in the prosperous west.

firestar
9th August 2006, 07:05 AM
I think it's always a sin, yet there are times when I'll lie

Lilly of the Valley
9th August 2006, 07:08 AM
A lie is a lie and your motives don't negate the fact that you aren't telling truth. So there is no way around it as a sin. It's sin the end and an abomination to God.

MeekOne
9th August 2006, 11:25 AM
Jos 2:1 (http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=jos+2:1&version=niv&st=1&sd=1&new=1&showtools=1) - Then Joshua son of Nun secretly sent two spies from Shittim. "Go, look over the land," he said, "especially Jericho." So they went and entered the house of a prostitute named Rahab and stayed there.

Jos 2:3 (http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=jos+2:3&version=niv&st=1&sd=1&new=1&showtools=1) - So the king of Jericho sent this message to Rahab: "Bring out the men who came to you and entered your house, because they have come to spy out the whole land."

Jos 6:17 (http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=jos+6:17&version=niv&st=1&sd=1&new=1&showtools=1) - The city and all that is in it are to be devoted to the Lord. Only Rahab the prostitute and all who are with her in her house shall be spared, because she hid the spies we sent.

Jos 6:23 (http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=jos+6:23&version=niv&st=1&sd=1&new=1&showtools=1) - So the young men who had done the spying went in and brought out Rahab, her father and mother and brothers and all who belonged to her. They brought out her entire family and put them in a place outside the camp of Israel.

Jos 6:25 (http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=jos+6:25&version=niv&st=1&sd=1&new=1&showtools=1) - But Joshua spared Rahab the prostitute, with her family and all who belonged to her, because she hid the men Joshua had sent as spies to Jericho--and she lives among the Israelites to this day.

Heb 11:31 (http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=heb+11:31&version=niv&st=1&sd=1&new=1&showtools=1) - By faith the prostitute Rahab, because she welcomed the spies, was not killed with those who were disobedient.

Jas 2:25 (http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=jas+2:25&version=niv&st=1&sd=1&new=1&showtools=1) - In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction?

Rahab lied to protect her neighbors, because she knew they were of God. She was blessed forever because she did this. Lying is indeed a sin. However, if we keep to the 2 commandments that Christ gave us and that is to love the Lord with all your mind, heart, soul and strength and to love your neighbor as you do yourself, we will not be in sin. If we look at the bigger picture, are we going to help someone by doing a greater good and would the Lord approve, we should be within His will. If we purposely tell someone that they do not look fat in something and let them go out in the streets looking like a 10 lb sausage in a 5 lb bag, I don't think God would approve. ;) Hope that helps a bit.

musicalmeg20
9th August 2006, 06:58 PM
I know some people say that lying is okay in some situations. Ya know, "white lies". I hate that policy. I want someone to tell me the truth no matter what. If I look fat, tell me. If I stink, tell me. My best friend may not be the nicest person all the time, but she's honest with me. (She's a Christian, too.) lying=:cry:

DUSTINtheCHRISTIAN
10th August 2006, 02:11 AM
It really depends on the situation you are in.

Chazper
11th August 2006, 01:43 AM
If I was hiding Jews in my house and someone asked me directly, "Are you hiding Jews?" I think I would answer something like, "Why would you even ask that?" or "Why would I do that?"

It's not lying, yet not letting on that there is anyone hiding in my house.
your obviously hiding them by those questions... :)
A nun who is believe to be almost incapable of lying would be believed if she answers a simple yes or no...

Chazper
11th August 2006, 01:49 AM
All men are liars... Only God is incapable of lying... For God can NOT lie.

A man told me a story about his grandchild who is sick. He gave her grandchild medicine but the child say "Grandpa I don't like medicine it taste awful." What do grandpa say? "No, this is tasteful... drink it you'll get better". The child drank the medicine.

It depends...

Mattacious
11th August 2006, 03:35 AM
No it's not at all but as any sin if we are genuine in our repentance then God will forgive us. That still doesn't make it right.

barbaraclarke
11th August 2006, 07:30 AM
I know some people say that lying is okay in some situations. Ya know, "white lies". I hate that policy. I want someone to tell me the truth no matter what. If I look fat, tell me. If I stink, tell me. My best friend may not be the nicest person all the time, but she's honest with me. (She's a Christian, too.) lying=:cry:

I agree with you however God must always be first and we can always give the truth in an onion sandwich complement /truth / compliment
I try to find the positive to say to some one instead.

BeachBlonde
11th August 2006, 10:28 AM
Lets pretend you've been thrown against the windshield of a car very hard and have half your face left-the last thing you will hear from any emergency med tech or trauma surgeon is;"you've lost half your face"
I hear your poll very clearly but I choose that this word lie be turned around a bit and sometimes the very truth that is in front of someone could kill them. We lie in the medical field sometimes,we do it to keep someone calm and sane.If this our sin,then I'll take the punishment.

If you lie to someone to get away with truth to better yourself,or hide something in response to evil-the answer is so easy I don't need to explain.

Chazper
11th August 2006, 07:15 PM
Lets pretend you've been thrown against the windshield of a car very hard and have half your face left-the last thing you will hear from any emergency med tech or trauma surgeon is;"you've lost half your face"
I hear your poll very clearly but I choose that this word lie be turned around a bit and sometimes the very truth that is in front of someone could kill them. We lie in the medical field sometimes,we do it to keep someone calm and sane.If this our sin,then I'll take the punishment.

If you lie to someone to get away with truth to better yourself,or hide something in response to evil-the answer is so easy I don't need to explain.

You hit the nail on the head!!! :thumbsup:

Rom. 3:7 For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?

SouthernLexa08
11th August 2006, 08:15 PM
Someone told me that no matter what God can never hate you. I believe in that. In my eyes, lying is a sin no matter what the situation. Even if it hurts, the truth should always be told. God will always forgive. :angel:

Be11e
15th August 2006, 04:35 PM
17
1. 9 st 4 (last time i checked)
I don't know what to look at ..lol
And no.

princessellie
17th August 2006, 12:22 AM
yes lying is a sin, but if there is something that the person doesnt need to hear then maybe things could be re worded in a way to save their feelings

chadders
18th August 2006, 01:34 AM
I don't know 100% if lying is a sin. I would say bending the truth (or sensationalising the truth) may be ok. So long as no one gets hurt. Often it's just good not to lie at all. That way you don't have to try and get yourself out of trouble if you get caught. However, not everyone you know has the right to know the truth. It depends mostly on the situation you are in.

CavFan
20th August 2006, 10:12 PM
I think that lying is lying period. Sometimes you don't want to accept the fact that stretching the truth a little is a lie, but it is. If you aren't telling the whole truth, your not really telling the truth at all. That's a hard thing to deal with. It's so easy to leave out parts of stuff so things sound the way you want them to sound.

If Not For Grace
21st August 2006, 12:08 PM
Sometimes the truth is:

1) I would really rather not answer
2) I think that is really personal (none of your business if you insist)
3) You may be right
4) I'll have to think about that.
5) Perhaps
6) Yes
7) No
8) I'll get back to you
9) I' don't know.

Usually one of those will get you there 90% of the time. None of which need involve being deceitful nor tactless. Lying is fear based (think about it)--we always lie because we are afraid of what will happen if we tell the "truth" and we are taught we should not live in fear.

KellyLeigh
28th August 2006, 05:14 PM
I don't think it's right to lie. Sometimes it may be easier to lie, but that still doesnt make it right

plum
30th August 2006, 02:17 PM
no, never.

MissRebecca38
19th September 2006, 01:06 PM
Lying not only hurts you, it hurts God and the person your lying to as well.. I agree with those that said to say the truth, but say it as nice as you can. sometimes you might have to hurt peoples feelings. but thats what Life is.. - not everyone likes the same things.

:)

EmbracingHim
19th September 2006, 05:01 PM
The scriptures state that lying is a sin. While there is an example in scripture where a woman (was her name Moab?) lied to protect God's people and was approved by God...

I'm not a judging authority -- Christ is...

Likewise, scripture indicates that satan is the father of lies...and I in my own humble opinion -- avoid even white lies as our Father, who is in Heaven has instructed us in various places...that lying is an evil.

Indeed, malicious intent might separate what a lie correctly is...however, I choose not to practice 'white lies' as it is deceptive at any rate.

God bless all. :)

diana_ch
3rd January 2007, 09:30 PM
It's a sin, but we all do it, even when we try not to... So i honestly believe that anyone who says they don't lie or never lie is an outright liar!!!! Thank God we are under justifying grace!!

BlessedMommy05
4th January 2007, 03:28 AM
I think it depends truly. I mean unless you want to be out right rude or blunt in your answers then lie. So yeah it does for me.. :D

xladyfayre
4th January 2007, 03:39 AM
i lie.... all the time.:cry:
i dont feel people need to know why i feel like i want to cry- nor do i usually want to explain it. so i lie and say that nothing is wrong.
they always know though and i end up saying it anyways.......

MeekOne
4th January 2007, 11:00 AM
The scriptures state that lying is a sin. While there is an example in scripture where a woman (was her name Moab?) lied to protect God's people and was approved by God...

I'm not a judging authority -- Christ is...

Likewise, scripture indicates that satan is the father of lies...and I in my own humble opinion -- avoid even white lies as our Father, who is in Heaven has instructed us in various places...that lying is an evil.

Indeed, malicious intent might separate what a lie correctly is...however, I choose not to practice 'white lies' as it is deceptive at any rate.

God bless all. :)It was Rahab...

Joshua 6:25
And Joshua saved Rahab the harlot alive, and her father's household, and all that she had; and she dwelleth in Israel even unto this day; because she hid the messengers, which Joshua sent to spy out Jericho.

In fact, the Lord considered her justified for her lie...

James 2:25
Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?

Interesting, isn't it. :)

xMMKayx3
4th January 2007, 05:48 PM
not sure.

xladyfayre
4th January 2007, 11:27 PM
i hate lying the way i do....but its the only way to protect my emotions..... no one needs to know how i feel.

PhantomTorment
5th January 2007, 04:49 PM
It's not really right to lie...but in certain situations I admit I do unfortunately.

krys4ever
16th March 2007, 12:58 PM
no-lying is a sin

fireman1173005
17th March 2007, 06:01 PM
Thou shalt not lie. It's one of the Ten Commandments.

Envy2
17th March 2007, 06:46 PM
I wouldn't call it a "sin" (I'm an atheist.) but I'm still strongly opposed to lying. I believe that people should always be honest.

AnimalMother
21st March 2008, 02:15 PM
depends on the situation i guess

VictoryNGrace
21st March 2008, 10:15 PM
I agree lying is a sin.. But in some cases as some of you posted, lying would only get out of certain circumstances and that is all.. But in all honesty if you want to tell the truth then do it in a meaningful way where the person would accept the truth..

Like for instance about the windows say "Mom I dont care for the windows but I am glad that you like them and they work for you" its telling the truth in a nice honest way with out bluntly saying "No I dont like them"

So we have to choose our words carefully when telling the truth so the other person wont have their feelings hurt and afraid to ask you of what you think next time on some thing..Just a thought..

VNG

WhiteWillow
25th April 2008, 12:47 PM
Lie: Untruth= Lie.
color it any way you want,a lie is a lie. BUT..Sin? Depending on the situation as in telling someone who is dying @ an accident scene they are fine. You lie to save their emotional state. That's not a sin. Lie for your own self worth or pride is a sin.

gardenfairy
8th May 2008, 12:37 AM
There is no commandment that says thou shalt not lie. The 9th commandment is "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."
This has a much more serious connotation than just lying. This goes beyond lying! This is maybe causing someone else to get the death penalty just because you don't like them. Think of what happened at Christ's trial.

Also Rev. 21:8. Know what is being said. Christ is talking about those who hate Him. The type of lying they do leads people to hell. Hmmmm, I wonder what kind of lying THAT would be. These are the evil preachers that Christ warns us not to listen to, for they lead many astray, they fleece the sheep!
They are bearing false witness against Christ. They are trading the truth for a lie, and know it, and are going to hell because they KNOW it and don't care, because they hate God and Christ.

Now what about: Leviticus 19:11, Psalm 101:7, Proverbs 12:22, and Colossians 3:9.

Remember how Christ said Do unto others what you would have them do unto you? He also said that this summed up the law and the prophets.

Again the lying in those above verses are not ordinary lies. These are lies that stem from one person doing something evil-hearted to another person.

These are lies that cause others to stumble in their walk with the Lord. These are liars, much like the Pharisees, who hated Jesus.

Do not cause another person to fall into a false religion full of idol worship, it is a great sin, and people cause this to happen to others all the time! The evil leaders who lie about Christ and try to steal His flock will pay dearly, and with their lives, for harming Christ's flock.

Otherwise, there were many who "lied" in the Bible, and God didn't punish them or send them to hell. Rebekah lied, Jacob lied, David lied, on and on...
There is a huge difference between the lie of a false witness and the common "white" lie that occurs everyday amongst human beings.

gal4God
11th May 2008, 09:09 AM
yea i even tell my mum if she looks fat in something when she does. my age i just say 20s. my weight i say idk cos i dnt lol

lyonguard
12th May 2008, 08:19 PM
If you lie, you had better have a good memory so you can remember who you told what to!

Sabertooth
14th May 2008, 02:17 AM
Lying, like homicide and stealing depends on the context. Perjury and murder are clearly wrong, but God told his people to lie, kill and steal on various occasions. In those occasions they were used like weapons. Like weapons, these actions should be thought of as the exceptions, rather than the rule.

Looking over the whole of scripture, we see killing during commanded wars, capital punishment and allowed for self-defense. We see stealing when they plundered their enemies. We see lying and deception when Solomon called for his sword so he might cut the living child in two, and when Gideon's army surrounded the enemy's camp, one man deep, with only jars, torches and trumpets. We even see God commissioning a spirit to lie on His behalf [2Chr. 18:18-22], even though He, Himself, would never do so.

JPPT1974
14th May 2008, 08:49 PM
Even a little white lie will hurt so many people!