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Mysterium_Fidei
17th August 2005, 10:26 PM
:wave: Hello,
I've recently seen the newest movie about Martin Luther, and one particular saying of his rung out during the film. I wasn't sure if it was something he actually said or where to find it, but if you could help me, here is what I remember of it:
"So when the devil comes to you and tells you you deserve death and hell, you should say 'What of it?' 'I know Jesus Christ, and where he is there also I will be."
ByzantineDixie
17th August 2005, 11:57 PM
Here ya go...recorded in a letter from Martin Luther...to someone:
When the devil throws our sins up to us and declares that we deserve death and hell, we ought to speak thus: “I admit that I deserve death and hell. What of it? Does this mean that I shall be sentenced to eternal damnation? By no means. For I know One who suffered and made satisfaction in my behalf. His name is Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Where he is, there I shall be also.”
Theodore G. Tappert, editor and translator, Luther: Letters of Spiritual Counsel (Philadephia, 1955), pages 88-89.
Protoevangel
18th August 2005, 01:47 AM
:wave: Hello,
I've recently seen the newest movie about Martin Luther, and one particular saying of his rung out during the film. I wasn't sure if it was something he actually said or where to find it, but if you could help me, here is what I remember of it:
"So when the devil comes to you and tells you you deserve death and hell, you should say 'What of it?' 'I know Jesus Christ, and where he is there also I will be."
Isn't the Gospel beautiful? :amen:
“Mr. Law, go ahead and accuse me as much as you like. I know I have committed many sins, and I continue to sin daily. But that does not bother me. You have got to shout louder, Mr. Law. I am deaf, you know. Talk as much as you like, I am dead to you. If you want to talk to me about my sins, go and talk to my flesh. Belabor that, but don’t talk to my conscience. My conscience is a lady and a queen, and has nothing to do with the likes of you, because my conscience lives to Christ under another law, a new and better law, the law of grace.”
- Martin Luther, A Commentary on St. Paul’s Epistle to the Galatians, Chapter 2, Verse 19.
SPALATIN
18th August 2005, 09:33 AM
Isn't the Gospel beautiful? :amen:
“Mr. Law, go ahead and accuse me as much as you like. I know I have committed many sins, and I continue to sin daily. But that does not bother me. You have got to shout louder, Mr. Law. I am deaf, you know. Talk as much as you like, I am dead to you. If you want to talk to me about my sins, go and talk to my flesh. Belabor that, but don’t talk to my conscience. My conscience is a lady and a queen, and has nothing to do with the likes of you, because my conscience lives to Christ under another law, a new and better law, the law of grace.”
- Martin Luther, A Commentary on St. Paul’s Epistle to the Galatians, Chapter 2, Verse 19.
Aye! :thumbsup:
Mysterium_Fidei
18th August 2005, 12:43 PM
Thank you guys! :)
JVAC
18th August 2005, 05:16 PM
:wave: Hello,
I've recently seen the newest movie about Martin Luther, and one particular saying of his rung out during the film. I wasn't sure if it was something he actually said or where to find it, but if you could help me, here is what I remember of it:
"So when the devil comes to you and tells you you deserve death and hell, you should say 'What of it?' 'I know Jesus Christ, and where he is there also I will be."
Actually this should be found in the "Freedom of a Christian Man", I don't have it with me but I will check to be sure, but I am 95% sure that it is there. However, it is a popular thought of Luthers and if you looked hard enough you would find it in all of his writtings :P)
-James
JVAC
19th August 2005, 01:08 PM
Alas I am wrong again, I was thinking of the Commentary on Galatians, however, a slightly different one that was already cited by Dan.
Sir Devil, I fear not thy threatenings and terrors, for there is one whose name is Jesus Christ, in whom I believe; he hath abolished the law, condemned sin, vanquished death and destroyed hell; and he is thy tormentor, O Satan, for he hath bound thee and holdeth thee captive, to the end that thou shouldest no more hurt me, or any that believeth in him.
-James
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