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MORTANIUS
9th August 2005, 11:11 PM
I've noticed that ever since Sunday Shopping became legal in Various parts of North America (Canada and the USA) it has infringed strongly on peoples religious practices.
Even though this issue of Sunday Shopping is an old issue to many, the issue about infringing on the rights of people to go to Church on Sunday seems to be getting worse (at least from my own surroundings and people I know).
I know many young people who are forced to pick between their jobs or going to Church on Sunday's. For that matter, I know adults who are limited in their employment opprotunities if they decide to go to Church on Sunday's, as where those who don't and decide to work instead have greater chances of employment.
Has anyone noticed this or had to work on Sunday's?
In my own experiences I've recently experienced something similar to this issue.
I usually work every other weekend, and originally my boss understood I attend Church on Sunday's, but recently due to people leaving work for other jobs, I've found myself forced to work every weekend even though I've protested this to my boss. This is getting ridiculous. I'm given responses by management that try to make it appear as though I'm not a team player or a committed employee even though I've told them I don't mind Saturdays, but Sunday's I do need off.
In light of the answeres I've received from management, it makes me recall the Sunday Shopping issue that forced various retailers and manufacturers to operate on Sunday's. They said it could not infringe on peoples rights for religion. But here I am facing this problem today!
Any comments or opinions?
cableguy
9th August 2005, 11:26 PM
wow, that's jacked up. Yep, at my work we're fighting to have a four ten work scheduale ( Work four days a week, ten hours each day ) My supervisor told us the only way we could do it was if we gave up our Sundays. For that reason I'm more comfortable doing a five day work week (though right now I'm working six ten hour days).
I suppose you could make the case that they're trampling on your right of religion. To you Sunday's are holy. I'm very sure that if they had an Islamic worker they'd let him pray his required five times daily, otherwise the ACLU would be all over them.
-Daniel the Cable Guy
cableguy
9th August 2005, 11:29 PM
Ach! Didn't notice you were Canadian. Not sure how it works over there as far as religios freedom goes.
Music4Hym777
10th August 2005, 12:18 AM
I use to be a front end manager of an IHOP. I tried to make sure to get the schedule so that I could attend either Sunday morning or Saturday night worship, however, there were those days that I was there all day every day. I remember scheduling myself for Saturday and Sunday morning (leaving Saturday night and Sunday night for services). Normally when I train someone on the cash register, it takes about an hour or two. Since the girl was coming in at 2:30 it would be no big deal to make it to the 6:15 service. Whell, after the two hours, she was still terrified of the cash register and didn't want a thing to do with it, so I ended up having to cover her shift (normally I go home after an hour or two of training and leave them on their own after that). So I was at work both Saturday and Sunday from about 6:30am to 10:30pm. I was not a happy camper, but I made lots of money so I didn't mind it too much.
Now I make sure that my boss understands that I will not work on a Sunday, and that if they try to schedule me, with out my permission (there are sometimes that I will take a Sunday afternoon shift if I am trying to get time off and only the Sunday afternoon person would trade), I'm not showing up, I dont care if I get fired. They also need to understand that I am VERY involved in church and that if I have a retreat or something, then they cant schedule me that weekend.
So far with my new philosophy and letting the bosses know straight up that I WILL NOT work Sundays, I have not had a problem.
Mon
guitarplayer_101
10th August 2005, 01:38 AM
it's one of the main reasons I'm unable to hold a job right now. Being a teenager looking for work in a community where work is scarce right now is almost impossible, this even before you bring Sunday up. If you need Sunday off you might as well not work is what I was told by several potential employers. So that's why I don't work right now.
RedneckAnglican
10th August 2005, 09:09 AM
I'm working at a conveniance store right now...my boss tells me that she can give me most sundays off, but not all...I'm fine with this because I can usually go to either sunday morning or evening...she is by far the exception...not the rule...
Zoomer
10th August 2005, 06:46 PM
My previous job in retail management, I was able to dictate the hours that I wanted.
However, I recently switched jobs to a bank. The bank is in a store that is open seven days a week, and so we have to also be open. We have to work every other weekend, no choice in the matter. We also are open later than traditional banks, anything for convienence.
ctay
10th August 2005, 06:53 PM
That's the only bad thing working in retail, restraunts, convieniance stores or grocery stores, they like to hire people who can work weekends. I wouldn't mind getting a part time job but all I'm qualified for is fast food and I really don't want to work sundays. I'd like to find something to do at home though. Plus I live out in the sticks and the way gas prices are right now, it probably wouldn't be worth it to find a part time job. I was lucky I got to stay home with the kids, now that they are grown I need a hobby or something.
MORTANIUS
11th August 2005, 07:11 PM
It seems as though religion is being infringed on once again by secularism.
While we have the right to practice our faith, we don't have the right to attain a balance between work and our faith.
cableguy
11th August 2005, 11:46 PM
It seems as though religion is being infringed on once again by secularism.
While we have the right to practice our faith, we don't have the right to attain a balance between work and our faith.
Yep. Freedom of religion has been turned into freedom from religion.
Tetzel
12th August 2005, 01:56 AM
Go another day.
SPALATIN
12th August 2005, 08:36 AM
I have had several jobs where I worked on Sundays. Some in which I even worked from 11 PM Saturday to 7 AM Sunday morning. I would often go to church right from work. Problem is that I sometimes was so tired I fell asleep during the sermons. That of course was when I was still in the Covenant church.
A couple of years ago before my journey back to Lutheranism, I did a weekend Paper route for the Minneapolis Star-Tribune. This was at the time my youngest daughter was born. I would get up at 2 AM and go fold the papers up and then throw them in the back of my car and trunk and go deliver them. They had to be delivered by 7:30AM and this was in the winter. I would get done in time to go home and dress for church. We were attending an Independent Baptist church at the time and the Pastor was good at shoving the law down your throat. He would be screaming by the end of the sermon and it was enough to keep me awake.
I didn't care for that job or that church and ended up leaving at the beginning of spring.
I am glad to be back in the Lutheran Church where I get a good dose of Law and Gospel and I don't work Sundays.
Flipper
12th August 2005, 09:20 AM
My husband works every other Saturday and Sunday. Did you know that people still get sick on weekends? Yea, it's been like that for a while, I guess.
I only work Sundays if something comes up that demands it. I'm going to have to go in this Sunday (I could go Saturday, but it would mean missing my neice's birthday party - and she has asked me no less than 10 times if I'm going). It's only the second Sunday this year I've worked - I don't think that's too bad.
GlowingFirefly
12th August 2005, 10:04 AM
When I worked as a busperson at this local resturant, it was open on Sundays. I just told the people there when I was hired that I could not work Sundays because of church and at the time I was with my handbell chior at church and we had practice after the service. So that took up an extra hour. Once or twice I was scheduled to work a Sunday shift, but thankfully I found people to work for me.
The resturant went out of business three years ago. So I lost my job then. Recently the resturant was worked on and opened up under new owners, and they are closed on Sundays now.
I'd rather not work on Sundays period, but given my financial circumstance, once I get a new job I plan to allow myself to work on Sunday afternoons. Where I live, most busineses are looking for people to work Sundays, and even though I really don't want to and probably shouldn't, I need to. My mom told me recently that she thinking of getting a second job to support the family. So I really should work on at least Sunday afternoons after church to help support myself and my family.
I can really see both sides of the story.
Joykins
12th August 2005, 04:28 PM
I work in Information Technology and we do our (internal) software releases on the weekends. Our big releases are done on Sunday. Sometimes I am required to do release-day testing on Sunday morning. This can range from once a year to 3 or 4 times a year.
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