Did the high priest know what was to happen?

[Bananna]

Check this out:

John 11:49Then one of them, named Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, spoke up, "You know nothing at all! 50You do not realize that it is better for you that one man die for the people than that the whole nation perish."

51He did not say this on his own, but as high priest that year he prophesied that Jesus would die for the Jewish nation, 52and not only for that nation but also for the scattered children of God, to bring them together and make them one. 53So from that day on they plotted to take his life. "

I always was taught that they were evil coniving mean Priests.

But if Caiaphas already prophesied Yehoshuah would die for the people, perhaps this should read, Planned out as apposed to plotted against.

[CovenantRay]

Shalom Banana:


My thoughts on this passage are like this:

The high priest would prophesy in his "official role". I always imagined that he viewed Y'shua as a troublemaker. The disorder in Jerusalem might bring the Romans down upon the population as it did some 40 years later....

My thought is that Caiaphas plotted against Y'shua to save his flesh and institutions (the wrong reason), but not as the Lamb who has come to save the world. But true to His nature, HaShem can turn all things together for good.

I always think of Balam's donkey, whom HaShem also used -- It always gives me hope that He can use even me!

CovenantRay :prayer:

[visionary]

John 11:49 Then one of them, named Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, spoke up, "You know nothing at all! 50You do not realize that it is better for you that one man die for the people than that the whole nation perish. It is still a very interesting way of putting things. If what I have highlighted was not in the sentence, then it would have been an ordinary reasonable statement given Caiaphas's position regarding Yeshua. Inspiration has a way of adding just enough to give that sentence prophectic implications that even Caiaphas could not fathom. The Lord has a way of making everyone confess that Yeshua is the one.

[Bananna]

Really look at the context. Why is he saying they know nothing. If they are bickering over what to do with this Yehoshuah lest people follow him. Ciaphas is telling them they don't know anything. He is high priest. Look at the story of Alexander the great coming to take Jeruselem and the High Priest going out to meet him and prophesy what would come about.
This Guy isn't part of the common bickering. He may actually have understood far more of God's plan than we understood. He taught this was for bringing all the peoples together.

Jhn 11:47 Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles.

Jhn 11:48 If we let him thus alone, all [men] will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation.

Jhn 11:49 And one of them, [named] Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all,

Jhn 11:50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.

Jhn 11:51 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;

Jhn 11:52 And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.

Jhn 11:53 Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death.


This seem far from the shallow bickering of the pharasees as a whole

[visionary]

IF what you are saying is true, that they knowingly sacrificed Yeshua as the Lamb of God then they should of also known that it would be the end of their sacrificial system.