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Cajun Huguenot
27th July 2005, 02:32 AM
click HERE (http://quizfarm.com/test.php?q_id=51889&first=yes). I think it is a good test.
BigNorsk
27th July 2005, 02:36 AM
I am Martin Luther, I would think most everyone here will get that result.
Marv
MORTANIUS
27th July 2005, 02:38 AM
It said I'm a Unitarian?
:mad:
LOL Just kidding :P
RedneckAnglican
27th July 2005, 08:25 AM
You scored as Luther.
You are Martin Luther. You'll stick with the words of Scripture, and defend this with earthy expressions. You believe in an orthodox Christology. You believe that the bread and wine are the Body and Blood of Christ, but aren't too sure about where he goes after the meal, and so you don't accept reservation of the Blessed Sacrament or Eucharistic devotions.
Luther 100%
Catholic 50%
Calvin 25%
zwingli 25%
Unitarian 0%
Zoomer
27th July 2005, 08:40 AM
Luther, of course.
pmcleanj
27th July 2005, 09:06 AM
How come Cranmer isn't on the list? I'm equal parts Luther and Calvin apparently!
SPALATIN
27th July 2005, 09:51 AM
Luther
75% Catholic
63% Calvin
38% Zwingli
25% Unitarian
19%
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KagomeShuko
27th July 2005, 11:03 AM
Wow. . .I scored as Luther. I'm not surprised.
Stein Auf!
Bridget
Protoevangel
27th July 2005, 11:41 AM
Luther - 100%
Calvin - 50%
Catholic - 25%
Zwingli - 0%
Unitarian - 0%
I like quizzes! :D
Melethiel
27th July 2005, 03:19 PM
100% Luther - big surprise :P
63% Catholic
25% Calvin
0% Zwingli
0% Unitarian
TheologiaCrucis
28th July 2005, 10:11 AM
Why did I score as Calvin? .... :confused: :confused:
Protoevangel
28th July 2005, 11:42 AM
Please don't read this post if you have not taken the test yet!!!
Only read this if you wonder why you got the score you did.
Why did I score as Calvin? .... :confused: :confused:
From left (disagree) to right (agree), you get the following possible scores:
0%, 6%, 13%, 19% and 25%.
Each question represents a belief from each camp.
So, in brief, if you answered "agree" to any one of the following, you got a higher score as Calvin: "Jesus' humanity is in heaven, but he is present according to his divinity.", "Jesus is present for those who have faith.", "There is a Real Presence in communion, but it is spiritual.", "By eating the bread and wine we are united spiritually to Jesus."
The Catholic answers are: "The "accidents" remain, but the "substance" is changed.", "You receive the complete Jesus, Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity, eating either species.", "The hosts are properly reserved in the Tabernacle and adored.", "The priest transforms bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ."
The Luther answers are: "The humanity and divinity of Jesus cannot be separated; his body is ubiquitous, therefore.", "Jesus gave his Body and Blood to be eaten, not to be carried about.", "Jesus called it his body, and I'd believe him even if was pointing to ****.", "Jesus is present "in, with, and under" the bread and wine only during the meal."
The Unitarian answers are: "Wine? How about some Boone's farm and some croissants?", "Let's just exchange flowers and hug and kiss one another.", "Who needs bread and wine? Let's use a flower.", "Jesus? Maybe we can talk about Buddha this week."
And finally, the Zwingli answers are: "Reason should dominate Scriptural interpretation.", "This "is" my body means this "signifies" my body.", "The bread and wine are symbols of the body and blood of Jesus.", "Jesus is not present in communion, as he is in heaven."
TheologiaCrucis
28th July 2005, 02:08 PM
That explains it, although I am still a bit shocked.
ByzantineDixie
28th July 2005, 07:08 PM
Well, don't feel bad...I took exception to the statement that "Jesus is present "in, with, and under" the bread and wine only during the meal." That is not a universal Lutheran understanding. A second miracle, Jesus departing from the Bread and Wine, is not documented in the Scriptures. What can be said is Scripture is not clear on when or if the Body and Blood of Jesus are no more in the bread and wine.
AngelusSax
28th July 2005, 08:48 PM
I got Luther... 94%... I had no 100%.
Could have to do with one of the questions saying something "you are united spiritually with Jesus," which I agree with, but I would've disagreed if it said "you are united ONLY spiritually with Jesus".
Something to that effect... either way, I still got a Luther score.
JADVirginia
2nd August 2005, 10:30 PM
I'm pretty sure that it says somewhere in the Bible that you can use Boone's Farm and croissant. Perhaps between Genesis and Revelation, I think.
JADVirginia ... who quizzes as "Martin Luther."
SPALATIN
3rd August 2005, 08:38 AM
I think that the test is seriously flawed when in order to get the Lutheran answers you have to answer to somethings that are not exactly true to form.
Protoevangel
3rd August 2005, 10:48 AM
I think that the test is seriously flawed when in order to get the Lutheran answers you have to answer to somethings that are not exactly true to form.
Ahh, you're just upset that you got 19% Unitarian! ;) :P
Seriously, though. Y'all are right. It isn't the greatest. I thought it was wacky to give me 50% Calvin and 25% Catholic. I would have expected it to be the other way around, if anything. That's why I went back to figure out how it scores the answers.
ottaia
3rd August 2005, 11:43 AM
I came out Luther. No surprise there.
But instead of Boones Farm and croisant, how 'bout beer and pizza?
SPALATIN
3rd August 2005, 11:44 AM
I came out Luther. No surprise there.
But instead of Boones Farm and croisant, how 'bout beer and pizza?
I'm all for Beer and Pizza after the service is over, but not in place of the elements given by Christ. :D
romaneagle13
8th August 2005, 09:13 PM
I came out 100% Luther, 94% Calvin, 50% Catholic....guess it's true that I really don't fit the Catholic mold on this one anymore.
SPALATIN
9th August 2005, 09:07 AM
Isn't Anglican + Calvinism = Methodist?
Tetzel
12th August 2005, 01:43 AM
I only got 88% Luther. I plead ignorance
Tetzel
12th August 2005, 01:50 AM
Isn't Anglican + Calvinism = Methodist?
"Methodism is a rejection of Calvinism" Pastor from King of the Hill
But seriously, Methodism tends more Arminian.
Protoevangel
3rd January 2008, 09:44 PM
Since the "Traditional, Mixed, or Contemporary" thread was ressurected, and I linked from it to here those many moons ago, I retook the test. I'm not surprized at the results.
Eucharistic theology
You scored as a Orthodox
You are Orthodox, worshiping the mystery of the Holy Trinity in the great liturgy whereby Jesus is present through the Spirit in a real yet mysterious way, a meal that is also a sacrifice.
Orthodox 100%
Catholic 44%
Luther 38%
Calvin 0%
Unitarian 0%
Zwingli 0%
Did you notice, they added four new questions, and the Orthodox category. The test really isn't any better than it used to be. If you pay attention to the answers, you can tell how it will score you (if you know much about the different Eucharistic Theologies), but hey, I've always been a sucker for a quiz.
BabyLutheran
3rd January 2008, 09:51 PM
I came out 88% Luther, 68 Calvin, 63 orthodox, 38 Catholic
I am not Lutheran, is God trying to tell me something?!?!?
RadMan
3rd January 2008, 09:51 PM
You scored as an orthodox. Imagine that :P
Protoevangel
3rd January 2008, 09:56 PM
Yea, imagine that. :D
Actually, I think that when I was a Lutheran, I would have still scored at least 75% Orthodox. The only one I might have shyed away from would have been the "Diefication" one, simply because I didn't understand it back then (not that I'm a scholar on it now, or anything).
BabyLutheran
3rd January 2008, 09:59 PM
yeah, i just chose the middle answer for the 3 or 4 questions that evaded my comprehension
RadMan
3rd January 2008, 10:03 PM
I came out 88% Luther, 68 Calvin, 63 orthodox, 38 Catholic
I am not Lutheran, is God trying to tell me something?!?!?If you stick around here long enough you're test scores might change :)
stumpjumper
3rd January 2008, 10:08 PM
I scored as both Orthodox and Luther:
Orthodox
75% Luther
75%
But that was because of this tie-breaker question:
1. Jesus gave his Body and Blood to be eaten, not to be carried about. 2. The Holy Spirit brings about the presence of Christ.
I figured out that the reason why is because I answered disagree to Jesus being present only during the meal.
I have always been taught that Christ is truly present even after the meal and that is why we can not dump the elements down the drain or throw them in the trash.
When I serving as a communion assistant, we were always taught to return the elements to the earth properly.
stumpjumper
3rd January 2008, 10:11 PM
I went back.
If I answer every question the same except state that I agree rather than disagree with this question: "Jesus is present "in, with, and under" the bread and wine only during the meal." then I get 100% Luther.
BabyLutheran
3rd January 2008, 10:12 PM
If you stick around here long enough you're test scores might change :)
That's funny. You are probably so correct
Protoevangel
3rd January 2008, 10:19 PM
I scored as both Orthodox and Luther:
But that was because of this tie-breaker question:
I figured out that the reason why is because I answered disagree to Jesus being present only during the meal.
I have always been taught that Christ is truly present even after the meal and that is why we can not dump the elements down the drain or throw them in the trash.
When I serving as a communion assistant, we were always taught to return the elements to the earth properly.
You are right about the "only during" part. That is the receptionist error. In a letter, Luther once instructed that all of the elements must be consumed, and only then is the "the use instituted by Christ" (cf: SDFC, Holy Supper, 85) complete.
RadMan
3rd January 2008, 10:33 PM
You are right about the "only during" part. That is the receptionist error. In a letter, Luther once instructed that all of the elements must be consumed, and only then is the "the use instituted by Christ" (cf: SDFC, Holy Supper, 85) complete.I have no problem with that except who consumes the rest of the communion wine? There can be a considerable amount sometimes. Just curious.
BabyLutheran
3rd January 2008, 10:45 PM
Yeah, they were chugging at the Anglican Catholic church I visited on Christmas Eve...lol
Protoevangel
3rd January 2008, 10:48 PM
I have no problem with that except who consumes the rest of the communion wine? There can be a considerable amount sometimes. Just curious.
If I remember right, he suggested the Pastor do so. I don't see why the elements couldn't be shared to a degree... In the Orthodox Church, it is the Priests and Deacons who consume all of the leftover elements.
Maybe that's why Churches offices are closed on Mondays... Those darn hangovers! ;)
DaRev
3rd January 2008, 11:17 PM
Ask Porterross about my finishing the communion cup when I did the service at her old church back in June. ^_^
DaRev
3rd January 2008, 11:31 PM
88% Luther
63% Orthodox
Protoevangel
4th January 2008, 12:33 AM
Ask Porterross about my finishing the communion cup when I did the service at her old church back in June. ^_^
I gotta hear this!
O, Porterross! Porterross!
vle045
4th January 2008, 12:44 AM
Not really sure what to make of my results
Eucharistic theologyYou scored as a CalvinYou are John Calvin. You seek to be faithful to Scripture, and to harmonize difficult sayings. You believe that in the Lord's Supper those who have faith are united to Christ, who is present spiritually, yet in a real way.Calvin 88% Luther 81% Orthodox 69% Zwingli 63% Catholic 50% Unitarian 0% v
porterross
4th January 2008, 01:03 AM
I gotta hear this!
O, Porterross! Porterross!
I guess the elder got carried away filling the chalice so it was quite full. That in itself wouldn't have been a problem if not for all the wine consumed by DaRev the night before.
PreachersWife2004
4th January 2008, 01:15 AM
Oh man the visuals I'm getting right now...
Heh.
DaRev
4th January 2008, 01:16 AM
Ask her who was pouring all that wine... :P
Protoevangel
4th January 2008, 01:18 AM
Not really sure what to make of my results
Eucharistic theologyYou scored as a CalvinYou are John Calvin. You seek to be faithful to Scripture, and to harmonize difficult sayings. You believe that in the Lord's Supper those who have faith are united to Christ, who is present spiritually, yet in a real way.Calvin 88% Luther 81% Orthodox 69% Zwingli 63% Catholic 50% Unitarian 0% v
The Calvinist answers are:
"Jesus' humanity is in heaven, but he is present according to his divinity."
This separates Jesus' Humanity and His Divinity... It is borderline Nestorian.
"Jesus is present for those who have faith."
According to Lutheranism (and Orthodoxy, and Catholicism), Jesus is present in an objective way, for those who believe and for those who disbelieve.
"We believe, teach, and confess that not only the true believers and the worthy, but also the unworthy and unbelievers, receive the true body and blood of Christ; however, not for life and consolation, but for judgment and condemnation, if they are not converted and do not repent, 1 Cor. 11, 27. 29." - Epitome VII (http://bookofconcord.org/fc-ep.html#VII.%20The%20Lord%27s%20Supper), 16 (7)
"[I]There is a Real Presence in communion, but it is spiritual."
The key to understanding this error is the word, "but".
"We believe, teach, and confess that the body and blood of Christ are received with the bread and wine, not only spiritually by faith, but also orally; yet not in a Capernaitic, but in a supernatural, heavenly mode, because of the sacramental union" - Epitome VII (http://bookofconcord.org/fc-ep.html#VII.%20The%20Lord%27s%20Supper), 15 (6)
"By eating the bread and wine we are united spiritually to Jesus."
This one stands well on it's own, and it probably the one most everyone answers affirmatively. The only problem is that it is a "loaded" phrase, assuming an "only".
PreachersWife2004
4th January 2008, 01:27 AM
Ask her who was pouring all that wine... :P
Oh, SURE. Blame the woman, just like y'all have been doing since the Garden!!
<imagine head snap here>
Protoevangel
4th January 2008, 01:27 AM
Ask her who was pouring all that wine... :P
All I can say is kudos for consuming the elements after Communion.
It's a far cry from the sad state of little disposable cups being tossed into the trash, half full, as I used to see in the LCMS churches around here (Portland, OR - I saw much more respect back east).
Melethiel
4th January 2008, 01:29 AM
All I can say is kudos for consuming the elements after Communion.
It's a far cry from the sad state of little disposable cups being tossed into the trash, half full, as I used to see in the LCMS churches around here.
Just one reason I don't go to the LCMS church here...I absolutely can't stand those things.
PreachersWife2004
4th January 2008, 01:32 AM
I prefer common cup myself, but my husband only has 2d vision and has chipped two member's teeth with the common cup, so he decided to forgo it completely.
I'm not sure what we do with the leftover...I think it gets poured back into the bottle but I'm not sure about that. It may get poured someplace "special". But I KNOW that Matt doesn't drink the leftovers...
RadMan
4th January 2008, 01:39 AM
All I can say is kudos for consuming the elements after Communion.
It's a far cry from the sad state of little disposable cups being tossed into the trash, half full, as I used to see in the LCMS churches around here (Portland, OR - I saw much more respect back east).In my other church we had a small plot of ground with a cross on it. That's were the excess wine is poured. Sacred ground?
DaRev
4th January 2008, 01:39 AM
All I can say is kudos for consuming the elements after Communion.
It's a far cry from the sad state of little disposable cups being tossed into the trash, half full, as I used to see in the LCMS churches around here (Portland, OR - I saw much more respect back east).
They used to do that here until I got here and pitched a fit. Now at least they rinse them in a container and pour it out on the ground.
When they put the sink in the sacristy a few years ago they plumbed the drain into the sewer instead of the ground. :doh:
I offered to purchase glass cups to use instead of the plastic shot glasses, but someone pitched a fit about having to wash them, so... :doh:
I prefer common cup myself, but my husband only has 2d vision and has chipped two member's teeth with the common cup, so he decided to forgo it completely.
I'm not sure what we do with the leftover...I think it gets poured back into the bottle but I'm not sure about that. It may get poured someplace "special". But I KNOW that Matt doesn't drink the leftovers...
Here, the remnant in the chalice and any of the "shot glasses" is consumed by me at the altar. Any left in the flagon gets stored in an empty bottle to be used the next week.
porterross
4th January 2008, 01:41 AM
I'm with PE on the vagueness of the wording of the questions, but here is my score sheet:
Luther 88%
Orthodox 75%
Calvin 63%
Catholic 50%
Zwingli 25%
Unitarian 0%
:eek:
PreachersWife2004
4th January 2008, 01:44 AM
Since our numbers don't tend to change for communion too much, it's easy for the altar guild to pour pretty much the right amount. I suppose that's one benefit of using the shot glass approach. I emailed Matt and asked him what we do with the leftover wine. I'm too lazy to go upstairs and ask him. :holy:
PreachersWife2004
4th January 2008, 01:45 AM
In my other church we had a small plot of ground with a cross on it. That's were the excess wine is poured. Sacred ground?
As long as no one's pet was buried there, sounds like a grand idea.
DaRev
4th January 2008, 01:46 AM
As long as no one's pet was buried there, sounds like a grand idea.
^_^ ^_^ ^_^
RadMan
4th January 2008, 01:59 AM
As long as no one's pet was buried there, sounds like a grand idea.LOL :)
Melethiel
4th January 2008, 02:00 AM
Orthodox 94%
Luther 75%
Catholic 50%
Calvin 44%
Zwingli 25%
:eek: *sneaks out quietly and hides in the corner*
PreachersWife2004
4th January 2008, 02:06 AM
Orthodox 94%
Luther 75%
Catholic 50%
Calvin 44%
Zwingli 25%
:eek: *sneaks out quietly and hides in the corner*
Somehow that doesn't surprise me. And it's not necessarily a BAD thing...:sorry:
But...please stay Lutheran. We need good organ players! ;)
Protoevangel
4th January 2008, 02:45 AM
They used to do that here until I got here and pitched a fit. Now at least they rinse them in a container and pour it out on the ground.
When they put the sink in the sacristy a few years ago they plumbed the drain into the sewer instead of the ground. :doh:
I offered to purchase glass cups to use instead of the plastic shot glasses, but someone pitched a fit about having to wash them, so... :doh:
That's what they did at the last LCMS church I went to (rinse the cups & recycle them instead of throwing them away). Redeemer Lutheran in Gresham, OR. It was like an oasis in a whirlwind of left-coast apostasy. Members would come from 60-70 miles, because in all of the greater Portland area, they are the ONLY LCMS congregation (out of 50+ congregations) who qualifies for the ELLC directory. While I was there, for a while, I actually thought I might be able to stay Lutheran.
DaRev
4th January 2008, 03:45 AM
That's what they did at the last LCMS church I went to (rinse the cups & recycle them instead of throwing them away). Redeemer Lutheran in Gresham, OR. It was like an oasis in a whirlwind of left-coast apostasy. Members would come from 60-70 miles, because in all of the greater Portland area, they are the ONLY LCMS congregation (out of 50+ congregations) who qualifies for the ELLC directory. While I was there, for a while, I actually thought I might be able to stay Lutheran.
We're in the ELLC directory.
BabyLutheran
4th January 2008, 09:54 AM
Just one reason I don't go to the LCMS church here...I absolutely can't stand those things.
Yeah, my old church used oyster crackers and grape juice in the little plastic cups, and we sat in our seats to take communion.
"Please pass your empty plastic cups to the center aisle..."
vle045
4th January 2008, 11:03 AM
Yeah, my old church used oyster crackers and grape juice in the little plastic cups, and we sat in our seats to take communion.
"Please pass your empty plastic cups to the center aisle..."
That sounds like the Assembly of God Church I went to as a kid.
BabyLutheran
4th January 2008, 11:16 AM
just a nondenominational, charismatic church.
vle045
4th January 2008, 11:51 AM
just a nondenominational, charismatic church.
And personally, I PREFER the individual little cups. It doesn't matter to me if we stay in our seats or have to go up to the front. But as a mild germ-o-phobe, I find it disgusting to drink out of the same cup as other people... especially strangers. I don't care if they have a cute little cloth to wipe it off. Their mouth still comes in some contact with the liquid inside.
But that's just my personal hang-up. I don't ever actaully SAY anything to anyone about it (other than this post just now)
Melethiel
4th January 2008, 11:59 AM
And personally, I PREFER the individual little cups. It doesn't matter to me if we stay in our seats or have to go up to the front. But as a mild germ-o-phobe, I find it disgusting to drink out of the same cup as other people... especially strangers. I don't care if they have a cute little cloth to wipe it off. Their mouth still comes in some contact with the liquid inside.
But that's just my personal hang-up. I don't ever actaully SAY anything to anyone about it (other than this post just now)
You don't have to drink...people who get queasy about that tend to dip the host into the cup.
BabyLutheran
4th January 2008, 12:01 PM
It just seems weird to drink Christ's blood from a plastic cup
MarkRohfrietsch
4th January 2008, 12:23 PM
For some silly reason I am 100 % Lutheran, 100% Calvinist, 75% Orthodox, and 35% Catholic.
Does that make me 310% Christian????????????????????????:confused:
I think the Quiz needs some tweaking!
Mark
PreachersWife2004
4th January 2008, 12:46 PM
Multiple personalities maybe? ^_^
For some silly reason I am 100 % Lutheran, 100% Calvinist, 75% Orthodox, and 35% Catholic.
Does that make me 310% Christian????????????????????????:confused:
I think the Quiz needs some tweaking!
Mark
DaRev
4th January 2008, 12:49 PM
And personally, I PREFER the individual little cups. It doesn't matter to me if we stay in our seats or have to go up to the front. But as a mild germ-o-phobe, I find it disgusting to drink out of the same cup as other people... especially strangers. I don't care if they have a cute little cloth to wipe it off. Their mouth still comes in some contact with the liquid inside.
But that's just my personal hang-up. I don't ever actaully SAY anything to anyone about it (other than this post just now)
If a silver plated chalice and regular wine is used the chances of passing disease through the common cup is virtually eliminated. I have never heard of anyone contracting any kind of illness from receiving the blood of Christ. I would think that the plastic cups pose more of a threat of that since they are handled by the altar guild people prior to being filled. There are more hands touching them than the chalice.
For some silly reason I am 100 % Lutheran, 100% Calvinist, 75% Orthodox, and 35% Catholic.
Does that make me 310% Christian????????????????????????:confused:
I think the Quiz needs some tweaking!
Mark
That's interesting since Lutheran and Calvinist Eucharistic theology are opposites in many respects.
MarkRohfrietsch
4th January 2008, 12:56 PM
I have no problem with that except who consumes the rest of the communion wine? There can be a considerable amount sometimes. Just curious.
In our Church we use both the common cup, and the little fellas. Approx. the right amount of host is put on a covered platen before service, likewise about the right number of small cups are filled also. The Chalice is about 1/2 filled. Extra wine is in a flagon, and extra host in a closed "host box". Prior the the verbum Domini, the Pastor sets aside the flagon and the host box. The contents of which are not consecrated. Should we need more we fill some small cups, the chalice, and add to the platen as required. These elements are then consecrated, and communion resumes.
Pastor drinks the leftover contents of the Chalice, consumes the remaining host. The Elder, and who ever is helping to clean us pours the remaining wine in the common cup and consumes it. The chalice and the small (glass) cups are rinsed, and washed. The remaining wine in the flagon is returned to the bottle for a later time.
This is as I believe it should be.
Scripture tells us what communion is, how to do it, but it does not tell us how to undo consecration, nor does it tell us when the elements cease to be the body and blood.
Mark
Protoevangel
4th January 2008, 12:57 PM
We're in the ELLC directory.
From your posts, I had no doubt that you would be, or at least qualified to be. :thumbsup:
RadMan
4th January 2008, 12:59 PM
Multiple personalities maybe? ^_^
You're really on the roll the last few days. LOL :) :thumbsup:
MarkRohfrietsch
4th January 2008, 01:10 PM
If a silver plated chalice and regular wine is used the chances of passing disease through the common cup is virtually eliminated. I have never heard of anyone contracting any kind of illness from receiving the blood of Christ. I would think that the plastic cups pose more of a threat of that since they are handled by the altar guild people prior to being filled. There are more hands touching them than the chalice.
That's interesting since Lutheran and Calvinist Eucharistic theology are opposites in many respects.
For some silly reason I am 100 % Lutheran, 100% Calvinist, 75% Orthodox, and 35% Catholic.
Does that make me 310% Christian????????????????????????:confused:
I think the Quiz needs some tweaking!
Mark
Multiple personalities maybe? ^_^
I don't even like Calvin.
*Mark bows his head in shame............:cry:..........and repents.
MarkRohfrietsch
4th January 2008, 01:14 PM
We're in the ELLC directory.
What is the ELLC directory?
Mark
vle045
4th January 2008, 01:28 PM
If a silver plated chalice and regular wine is used the chances of passing disease through the common cup is virtually eliminated. I have never heard of anyone contracting any kind of illness from receiving the blood of Christ. I would think that the plastic cups pose more of a threat of that since they are handled by the altar guild people prior to being filled. There are more hands touching them than the chalice.
That's interesting since Lutheran and Calvinist Eucharistic theology are opposites in many respects.
Hey, I never said that I had any "reason" or explanation, just that it was one of my weird personal hang-ups. Can't help it. :sigh: And any amount of reasoning isn't gonna change a thing. I think it's kind of a visual thing. Not sure. :scratch: But hey, I'm a weirdo sometimes. ;)
BigNorsk
4th January 2008, 01:34 PM
What is the ELLC directory?
Mark
See: http://www.lutheranliturgy.org/
It stands for Evangelical-Lutheran Liturgical Congregations.
MarkRohfrietsch
4th January 2008, 02:30 PM
See: http://www.lutheranliturgy.org/
It stands for Evangelical-Lutheran Liturgical Congregations.
Thanks for the info, and the link! Here is another one. I have been a member here for some time, and have found it most informative!
Mark
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Lutheran_Liturgy/
NordicLutheran
4th January 2008, 04:49 PM
I got:
Luther 100%
Orthodox 56%
Catholic 56%
Calvin 50%
Zwingli 6%
Unitarian 0%
Sounds good to me. :thumbsup:
RadMan
4th January 2008, 09:55 PM
Hare Krishna 65%
Mormon 45%
Seventh Day Adventist 35%
Zen Buddhist 30 %
maylor
4th January 2008, 10:08 PM
Hare Krishna 65%
Mormon 45%
Seventh Day Adventist 35%
Zen Buddhist 30 %
Ok, that made me laugh out loud.
my results:
Eucharistic theologyYou scored as a Orthodox
You are Orthodox, worshiping the mystery of the Holy Trinity in the great liturgy whereby Jesus is present through the Spirit in a real yet mysterious way, a meal that is also a sacrifice.
Orthodox 88%
Luther 88%
Calvin 38%
Catholic 13%
Zwingli 0%
Unitarian 0%
And I thought I was a Lutheran !
I still have much to learn......
Melethiel
4th January 2008, 10:26 PM
Ok, that made me laugh out loud.
my results:
Eucharistic theologyYou scored as a Orthodox
You are Orthodox, worshiping the mystery of the Holy Trinity in the great liturgy whereby Jesus is present through the Spirit in a real yet mysterious way, a meal that is also a sacrifice.
Orthodox 88%
Luther 88%
Calvin 38%
Catholic 13%
Zwingli 0%
Unitarian 0%
And I thought I was a Lutheran !
I still have much to learn......
Well, at least you're not as Orthodox as I am. :P
DaRev
4th January 2008, 11:28 PM
You are Orthodox, worshiping the mystery of the Holy Trinity in the great liturgy whereby Jesus is present through the Spirit in a real yet mysterious way, a meal that is also a sacrifice.
That's what got you. The Lord's Supper is not a sacrifice (from us to God), but rather a sacrament (from God to us).
Melethiel
4th January 2008, 11:35 PM
That's what got you. The Lord's Supper is not a sacrifice (from us to God), but rather a sacrament (from God to us).
Funny thing is, I don't remember any question to that extent...if there were, I doubt I'd have scored it so high.
maylor
4th January 2008, 11:35 PM
That's what got you. The Lord's Supper is not a sacrifice (from us to God), but rather a sacrament (from God to us).
I know....
Christ's sacrifice was a one time event. I believe He said "it is finished". I certainly cannot claim perfect knowledge of the mystery that is the sacrament of the Lord's Supper, but I have faith that His mercy will cover my ignorance! Not sure exactly which questions I answered that got me classified as Orthodox....
DaRev
5th January 2008, 12:24 AM
I know....
Christ's sacrifice was a one time event. I believe He said "it is finished". I certainly cannot claim perfect knowledge of the mystery that is the sacrament of the Lord's Supper, but I have faith that His mercy will cover my ignorance! Not sure exactly which questions I answered that got me classified as Orthodox....
Don't sweat it. It could have been much worse. :P
Mary of Bethany
5th January 2008, 04:18 PM
Eucharistic theology
You scored as a Orthodox. You are Orthodox, worshiping the mystery of the Holy Trinity in the great liturgy whereby Jesus is present through the Spirit in a real yet mysterious way, a meal that is also a sacrifice.
Orthodox 100%
Luther 63%
Calvin 63%
Catholic 13%
Zwingli 13%
Unitarian 0%
No surprise that I scored as Orthodox, but I wonder why Luther & Calvin would both be 63%?
Mary
RadMan
5th January 2008, 04:33 PM
Ok, that made me laugh out loud.
Maybe I took the wrong test. Maybe it was "Everybody's God is our God" test. :scratch:
TCat
5th January 2008, 07:32 PM
Hmmm, I scored as 100% Calvin and 65% Luther, LOL
I am not suprised
Lupinus
5th January 2008, 11:10 PM
Luther 100% Orthodox 63% Calvin 44% Catholic 31% Zwingli 6% Unitarian 0%
Aibrean
6th January 2008, 01:32 PM
I have Luther and Calvin tied at the top.
GratiaCorpusChristi
6th January 2008, 06:50 PM
You scored as a Luther You are Martin Luther. You'll stick with the words of Scripture, and defend this with earthy expressions. You believe this is a necessary consequence of an orthodox Christology. You believe that the bread and wine are the Body and Blood of Christ, but aren't too sure about where he goes after the meal, and so you don't accept reservation of the Blessed Sacrament or Eucharistic devotions.
Orthodox 88%
Luther 88%
Catholic 38%
Calvin 31%
Zwingli 13%
Unitarian 0%
Woot!
LutherNut
6th January 2008, 06:57 PM
You are Martin Luther. You'll stick with the words of Scripture, and defend this with earthy expressions. You believe this is a necessary consequence of an orthodox Christology. You believe that the bread and wine are the Body and Blood of Christ, but aren't too sure about where he goes after the meal, and so you don't accept reservation of the Blessed Sacrament or Eucharistic devotions.
Luther 94%
Orthodox 63%
Calvin 38%
Catholic 6%
Zwingli 0%
Unitarian 0%
The problem is that I do accept the reservation of the elements.
DaRev
6th January 2008, 08:34 PM
The problem is that I do accept the reservation of the elements.
So do I, but not adoration.
Melethiel
6th January 2008, 08:50 PM
You scored as a Luther You are Martin Luther. You'll stick with the words of Scripture, and defend this with earthy expressions. You believe this is a necessary consequence of an orthodox Christology. You believe that the bread and wine are the Body and Blood of Christ, but aren't too sure about where he goes after the meal, and so you don't accept reservation of the Blessed Sacrament or Eucharistic devotions.
Orthodox 88%
Luther 88%
Catholic 38%
Calvin 31%
Zwingli 13%
Unitarian 0%
Woot!
So make up your mind - Orthodox, or Luther? :P
BabyLutheran
6th January 2008, 09:55 PM
Sort of like me and the denomination test. Equally Orthodox Jew, Muslim, and Catholic!
GratiaCorpusChristi
7th January 2008, 12:17 AM
So make up your mind - Orthodox, or Luther? :P
Lets go with Finnish interpretation of Luther.
Melethiel
7th January 2008, 01:06 AM
Lets go with Finnish interpretation of Luther.
Works.
synger
7th January 2008, 01:38 PM
You scored as a Luther
Luther 81%
Calvin 75%
Orthodox 69%
Catholic 56%
Zwingli 50%
Unitarian 13%
Doesn't surprise me that Calvin is still so high on the list for me.
UberLutheran
7th January 2008, 01:44 PM
Eucharistic theology You scored as a Calvin You are John Calvin. You seek to be faithful to Scripture, and to harmonize difficult sayings. You believe that in the Lord's Supper those who have faith are united to Christ, who is present spiritually, yet in a real way.
Calvin 100%
Catholic 94%
Luther 88%
Orthodox 75%
Zwingli 31%
Unitarian 0%
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PreachersWife2004
7th January 2008, 01:59 PM
Sheesh, Uber, you even hit Catholic before you hit Luther.
Is there a name change in your future? ^_^
IowaLutheran
7th January 2008, 02:15 PM
Quiz results:
Eucharistic theology You scored as a Luther You are Martin Luther. You'll stick with the words of Scripture, and defend this with earthy expressions. You believe this is a necessary consequence of an orthodox Christology. You believe that the bread and wine are the Body and Blood of Christ, but aren't too sure about where he goes after the meal, and so you don't accept reservation of the Blessed Sacrament or Eucharistic devotions.
Luther 94%
Orthodox 69%
Calvin 38%
Catholic 38%
Zwingli
13%
Unitarian
0%
vle045
7th January 2008, 03:18 PM
I think this quiz is far too vague. I mean, where would a United Methodist fit in?
GratiaCorpusChristi
7th January 2008, 05:04 PM
So do I, but not adoration.
Woot. I'm glad to hear someone accepts reservation without adoration.
For what happens to the body and the blood after the service is a holy mystery. If it remains the body and blood, then best not to through it away, but it returns to the state of the common elements, best not to adore it.
DaRev
7th January 2008, 07:40 PM
I think this quiz is far too vague. I mean, where would a United Methodist fit in?
Probably closer to Calvin.
DaSeminarian
7th January 2008, 07:43 PM
Probably closer to Calvin.
Actually I think that the Wesley bros were closer to Arminian theology.
DaRev
7th January 2008, 08:06 PM
Actually I think that the Wesley bros were closer to Arminian theology.
But given the choices of the test results for Eucharistic theology I think Calvin would be close.
GratiaCorpusChristi
7th January 2008, 08:24 PM
Actually I think that the Wesley bros were closer to Arminian theology.
Only one of the Wesley brothers. Charles Wesley, if I recall, remained a Calvinistic Methodist like George Whitfield.
Anyway, yeah, the Anglican communion and its Methodist offspring are pretty much the only place where you can find widespread belief in Calvin's doctrine of heavenly court/temple presence.
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