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Mr.Peanut
20th July 2005, 06:55 AM
is it bad to date a none believing punk girl???????

:help:

twistedsketch
20th July 2005, 08:01 AM
It's bad to date a nonbeliever period. Whether she's punk or not all goes to personal taste.

butterfoot
20th July 2005, 09:01 AM
is it bad to date a none believing punk girl???????

:help:

No its not bad. Just ensure that you remember to keep your faith central in your relationship with her. She also has to know where you stand where your faith is concerned. You may be a little young to handle it so be careful and let your parents be informed on your relationship so they can help you were needed.

-cw

twistedsketch
20th July 2005, 10:38 AM
2 Corinthians 6:14

Jeromethedisciple
20th July 2005, 11:33 AM
2 Corinthians 6:14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

I agree whole heartedly with this scripture, and with your comment earlier about punk girls being a matter of taste. but yeah we ARE commanded to not be unequaly yolked. Another thing, evangelistic dating is not generaly a good idea either. I advise to pray for her and look else where for a mate.

Jerry

WesWoodell
20th July 2005, 12:23 PM
is it bad to date a none believing punk girl???????

:help:


Not only is it bad - it's also not smart. :|

butterfoot
20th July 2005, 12:29 PM
So what you people are saying is that this girl can not turn out be a religious and good woman who in her past has made bad choices. I think it is unwise to just toss someone aside because of what they are now. People can change. This isn't getting married to her this is just dating.


-cw

Ginny
20th July 2005, 03:00 PM
So what you people are saying is that this girl can not turn out be a religious and good woman who in her past has made bad choices.
It does not matter if she can turn into a Christian or not. It also has nothing to do with her being a "punk girl". This cannot be foreseen anyway. If this person wants to obey God then he must not date her. If God says no, then God says no....and He did.

I think it is unwise to just toss someone aside because of what they are now. People can change.
Choosing to not date her is not tossing her aside (persay) or making her any less of a human being. Are you stating he or anyone else should not obey God and his specific command just b/c someone might change? That is a perfect example of not having sex before marriage. We have no idea what can happen until that point, so that is why we abstain. The poster can not go off whether or not she might or might not accept Jesus.

As far as God is concerned, without Him in the picture, these two have nothing in common.

14Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? 15What harmony is there between Christ and Belial[b (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=54&chapter=6&version=31#fen-NIV-28898b)]? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?

WesWoodell
20th July 2005, 06:15 PM
So what you people are saying is that this girl can not turn out be a religious and good woman who in her past has made bad choices. I think it is unwise to just toss someone aside because of what they are now. People can change. This isn't getting married to her this is just dating.


-cw


Did you even read my post? :scratch:

I believe it to be dangerous for a Christian to date one who is not. In general, dating evangelism is not very smart (imho).

holo
20th July 2005, 07:49 PM
Haha, it seems some christians react to the word "punk" exactly as they do when they see a mohawk...

Anyway, I don't know any more about you or this girl than anyone here, and therefore I can't really give any advice, and certainly not throw bible verses at you.

But I like punks. Real punks, that is, not those who are just into the punk fashion. So my advice, was I to give it, would be go ahead, date her, get to know her, let her know about Jesus, start at punk church, gather up all those people who will either refuse to go to church or be denied entrance.

Ginny
20th July 2005, 10:14 PM
holo- that is what you call "missionary dating". LOL

people want to satisfy their own natural desires of dating who they want, all the while trying to make themselves feel better about it by saying they will witness to them....

eddy67
21st July 2005, 12:20 AM
Haha, it seems some christians react to the word "punk" exactly as they do when they see a mohawk...

Anyway, I don't know any more about you or this girl than anyone here, and therefore I can't really give any advice, and certainly not throw bible verses at you.

But I like punks. Real punks, that is, not those who are just into the punk fashion. So my advice, was I to give it, would be go ahead, date her, get to know her, let her know about Jesus, start at punk church, gather up all those people who will either refuse to go to church or be denied entrance.

You mean the punks who are into anarchy and the punks that believe that religion has more problems to offer than solutions?

Punk Ideology and Christianity don't go together

holo
21st July 2005, 01:56 AM
Punk Ideology and Christianity don't go togetherNeither do Jesus and religion.

Ginny
21st July 2005, 07:44 AM
God knows what your real intentions are...and they are the intentions that come from being of this world. If we tell this guy to do whatever he wants, you are telling him to disobey God.

You can't go about pleasing your own natural desires and God's commands at the same time. There is scripture to prove it, no more really needs tobe said.

AGain, this conversatio has nothing to do with her being "PUNK" is has to do with her denial of God. You either say "yes" or "no" to God...not "not right now".

Jeromethedisciple
21st July 2005, 11:21 AM
Ginny,

EXACTLY!! It is not about her being punk. If someone is disobediant to God then by all means be their friend and minister to them. As a believer we should not date a Non believer. Dating someone shows that you are having serious feelings about them and are being yolked with them. We are not to be unequally yolked with unbelievers. When Oxen are unequally yolked to eachother they do not do the same amount of work each and the stronger more experienced ox will do the most work. The job will not get done in a timely fashion. if a believer is paired with a non believer they will have different focuses and wil not grow together.

Jerry

twistedsketch
21st July 2005, 11:26 AM
Neither do Jesus and religion.
Actually, when you look at it, they do. The way we express love to God as a friend often comes through religious channels. But that's a debate for another thread.

holo
21st July 2005, 11:34 AM
Actually, when you look at it, they do. The way we express love to God as a friend often comes through religious channels. But that's a debate for another thread.My point was that Jesus doesn't fit into religion any more than he fits into our religous frames. So, to me, it's completely irrelevant what your ideology or religion is - Jesus transcends it. But I think it can be a lot easier for a punk than a religious person to live with Jesus. Ideologies have to go when Jesus comes around, while religiosity has a unique way of wrapping itself around him and make it look like Jesus is more about morals, lifestyle, clothing, congregations, theology and culture than about God himself.

eddy67
21st July 2005, 01:06 PM
My point was that Jesus doesn't fit into religion any more than he fits into our religous frames. So, to me, it's completely irrelevant what your ideology or religion is - Jesus transcends it. But I think it can be a lot easier for a punk than a religious person to live with Jesus. Ideologies have to go when Jesus comes around, while religiosity has a unique way of wrapping itself around him and make it look like Jesus is more about morals, lifestyle, clothing, congregations, theology and culture than about God himself.


I agree with you. Christianity isn't about religion, but a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ

Ginny
21st July 2005, 01:45 PM
eddy- do you need some blessings so your character can have some pants? :)

twistedsketch
21st July 2005, 01:51 PM
Yeah, seriously. I thought it said all 5 areas needed to be equipped for the character to show up . . .

Ginny
21st July 2005, 02:00 PM
i think the 5 areas are hair, eyes, sex, eyebrows, and lips...they automatically give you underwear and a t-shirt

eddy67
21st July 2005, 02:04 PM
eddy- do you need some blessings so your character can have some pants? :)

Heh, no I have blue jeans equipped but for some reason they aren't showing up

EDIT: Fixed em :amen:

holo
21st July 2005, 04:51 PM
Put on the helmet of salvation and the underpants of... umm, decency?

covenantwmn
21st July 2005, 05:13 PM
It seems this will always be a struggle, but take it further down the road. Spose you really get to like her, even love her, and she you, then what?? If you can't share a mutual love for the Lord, compromises will be made, and that ain't good. So hang tough, the Lord will send you a Christian punk girl, hey, have you met my daughter? ;) God bless.

KTskater
22nd July 2005, 05:25 AM
I would consider myself a punk. Although I barly dress the part, but if God says no then God says no. I don't think you'll damage her for life or anything, just say that you don't want to date her right now and be done with it. If she wants an explanation give it to her.

A New Dawn
22nd July 2005, 10:32 AM
It seems this will always be a struggle, but take it further down the road. Spose you really get to like her, even love her, and she you, then what?? If you can't share a mutual love for the Lord, compromises will be made, and that ain't good. So hang tough, the Lord will send you a Christian punk girl, hey, have you met my daughter? ;) God bless.
Ditto what she said. :thumbsup:

zitreksun
22nd July 2005, 03:16 PM
I go along with the unequally yoked scripture. I believe that it is a bad idea to date an unbeliever. For instance, does she have the same morals as you when it comes to dating? What if she is willing, or pressuring you to do something that is agains your morals and beliefs? Once there is an emotional attachment that is brought about with dating, it is harder to say no. So the question that you may want to ask yourself is, "Do I want to put myself, my morals, and my closeness with God at risk for a dating relationship?"