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WashedClean
9th July 2005, 07:55 PM
This is hard for me to ask... Do you ever doubt your salvation?
jdw4jesus
9th July 2005, 08:27 PM
I used to doubt my salvation frequently, so do not worry, I think everyone does at some point
My mother once told my pastor that she was not sure if she was saved or not, and my pastor said "If you are worried, then that is a good sign, because if you were not saved, you would not care about it"
I don't know if this helps, but it sure helped my mother.
GOD BLESS
Jonathan
AudioArtist
9th July 2005, 08:58 PM
I do, normally when I doubt the reality of my faith.
However, the sheer distress and panic I feel during times of doubt only means that my faith is central to my life and my perceived purpose in life. If this were not the case, I wouldn't get so worried about the fact it might not be truth (if that makes any sense!)
Just pray for God to assure His salvation in your mind.
JimfromOhio
9th July 2005, 09:49 PM
This is hard for me to ask... Do you ever doubt your salvation?
I posted this in my journal.
Lack of Faith is one way of looking at it however its the lack of knowledge that created doubts. We need to control our doubts.
I use 2 Peter 1:3-9 (NLT)
As we know Jesus better, his divine power gives us everything we need for living a godly life. He has called us to receive his own glory and goodness! And by that same mighty power, he has given us all of his rich and wonderful promises. He has promised that you will escape the decadence all around you caused by evil desires and that you will share in his divine nature. So make every effort to apply the benefits of these promises to your life. Then your faith will produce a life of moral excellence. A life of moral excellence leads to knowing God better. Knowing God leads to self-control. Self-control leads to patient endurance, and patient endurance leads to godliness. Godliness leads to love for other Christians, and finally you will grow to have genuine love for everyone. The more you grow like this, the more you will become productive and useful in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But those who fail to develop these virtues are blind or, at least, very shortsighted. They have already forgotten that God has cleansed them from their old life of sin.
The more you know about God, the more you have a relationship with God, your doubts will drop and your faith will increase.
Anyway... that's my thoughts.
NewSong
9th July 2005, 11:05 PM
This is hard for me to ask... Do you ever doubt your salvation?
I sure have. I have doubted it because I know sometimes my actions do not line up with the word of God. I would like an instant over haul. I used to think I was the exception to God's plan because I was so unlovable. I used to think maybe I am holding God at arm's length. I would fast for days and pray for days to get rid of that "feeling" and today and yesterday was one of those "feeling" days and then I get a reminder from my wonderful biological brother that it is not by feelings we are saved. It is by grace we are saved, not of our own merit or making but just because He saved us. Blows me away to think that I am not too hard, bitter, angry, or mean for Him to save. It blows me away that He cares so much for my doubt about this very issue that He gave me plenty of back up for thsoe moments.
It is the growing pains that I go through for God to perfecting and taking up my cross daily and following Him. It is finding myself ripped and torn because I condemned myself so much for going throug trials and tribulations and thought it was because I was so bad that God apparently did not save me or I would not be going through these things. Reels and more reels run through my mind but the truth remains that I am saved.....
I so understand that question and realize that God has so much to offer in the assurance by realizing that it isn't a "feeling" and good "idea" but it is a work Jesus done on the cross.
Now it my job to say yes to His will for my life and His ways.
Hug Washed Clean.
NewSong
non-religious
10th July 2005, 03:29 PM
[NewSong]I sure have. I have doubted it because I know sometimes my actions do not line up with the word of God. I would like an instant over haul. I used to think I was the exception to God's plan because I was so unlovable. I used to think maybe I am holding God at arm's length. I would fast for days and pray for days to get rid of that "feeling" and today and yesterday was one of those "feeling" days and then I get a reminder from my wonderful biological brother that it is not by feelings we are saved. It is by grace we are saved, not of our own merit or making but just because He saved us. Blows me away to think that I am not too hard, bitter, angry, or mean for Him to save. It blows me away that He cares so much for my doubt about this very issue that He gave me plenty of back up for thsoe moments.
It is the growing pains that I go through for God to perfecting and taking up my cross daily and following Him. It is finding myself ripped and torn because I condemned myself so much for going throug trials and tribulations and thought it was because I was so bad that God apparently did not save me or I would not be going through these things. Reels and more reels run through my mind but the truth remains that I am saved.....
I so understand that question and realize that God has so much to offer in the assurance by realizing that it isn't a "feeling" and good "idea" but it is a work Jesus done on the cross.
Now it my job to say yes to His will for my life and His ways.
Hug Washed Clean.
NewSong
A very beautiful post, if I may say....:)
Stinker
10th July 2005, 04:23 PM
This is hard for me to ask... Do you ever doubt your salvation?
It seems that at just the right time, Satan will instantly bring my past to mind. When I am coming down with a cold or flu is when I'm weak against holding back carnality, which we all must hold under subjection. My past was not a pleasant one. Bad language was the norm in my family. It seems that if I get to thinking that I've 'progressed' far enough into my Spiritual walk that I will no longer be influenced by my past.....bam! Satan brings a momentary flash from my past and I'll say a word that I haven't used in a long, long, time because I'm really irritable at the time.
It is then that I wonder if a genuine Christian would speak in such a way.
God never told us that we would be relieved of our carnality if we accepted Christ, and we will never put enough years of Christian service under our belts to tame it 100%
What we don't have to worry about is it claiming our eternal crown. Jesus already won that war for us.
A New Dawn
10th July 2005, 04:39 PM
In the church in which I spent most of my life, we did not believe we could know about salvation, that it is/will be God's judgment of the culmination of our life's beliefs and actions, and that we would not receive salvation till we stood before God's throne.
I realize that that is not the typical "Christian" belief, but having just come out of that church less than 2 weeks ago, and while I can understand what the common Christian concept is, I have not embraced it. So, I am in a no-man's-land of beliefs right now (this is not the only one), and I pray that studying the scriptures will help me grow in this (as well as most other) belief.
WashedClean
10th July 2005, 06:02 PM
Thank you all for your replies, they've helped tremendously. It doesn't happen very often, but sometimes I just wonder if I'm truly saved when I sin (especially the same ones over and over). I know God is changing me from Glory to Glory, but still, I have these doubts. Especially when I compare myself to more mature Christians (I know, bad idea).
I agree with the person who said if I wasn't saved, I wouldn't be concerned about it. Kind of like when Christians are worried that they've committed the unforgivable sin, blaspheming the Holy Spirit. You wouldn't be worried about it if you did it.
Thanks all for the help. I really appreciate it and feel much better now! :thumbsup:
Love in Christ,
Jill/WashedClean
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