What does being a "lukewarm" christian mean to you?

[NewSong]

Revelation 3:16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.


Do you ever wonder if your are hot or cold or lukewarm? What do you do to get hot if it is something you can do about your condition? Is it a condtion? Thanks for your feedback.

NewSong

[New_Wineskin]

When I hear "lukewarm" being used by one Christian referring to another Christian , I think of that person considering that *their* standards are *the* standards and *they* are the judges at who meets the standards and who doesn't .

[NewSong]

When I hear "lukewarm" being used by one Christian referring to another Christian , I think of that person considering that *their* standards are *the* standards and *they* are the judges at who meets the standards and who doesn't .

So I wondered what GOD thinks about it and what HE meant by lukewarm? Because I agree that there are things like this that would be used to mold people in an image other than that of God's.


Do you have any thoughts on the way God may mean "lukewarm"?

Thanks

NewSong

[lismore]

Revelation 3:16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.


Do you ever wonder if your are hot or cold or lukewarm? What do you do to get hot if it is something you can do about your condition? Is it a condtion? Thanks for your feedback.

NewSong

Did you know the water at Laodicea came via aquaduct from the boiling volcanic springs at Hierapolis? The water was cloudy and lukewarm by the time it got there- undrinkable. Thats why the picture of spitting out the water would be so real to them.

What it means is people who go through the motions but who have not yet completely died to self. People who seek their own needs or glory instead of the Lord's. People who follow Christ only one hour every sunday and live different all week. People who cannot say 'thy will be done' and mean it.

:)

[NewSong]

Did you know the water at Laodicea came via aquaduct from the boiling volcanic springs at Hierapolis? The water was cloudy and lukewarm by the time it got there- undrinkable. Thats why the picture of spitting out the water would be so real to them.

What it means is people who go through the motions but who have not yet completely died to self. People who seek their own needs or glory instead of the Lord's. People who follow Christ only one hour every sunday and live different all week. People who cannot say 'thy will be done' and mean it.

:)

Interesting and if that is the case, then I need prayer, at least I think I do but it is never an hour on Sunday....I think that I may be in trouble.

[New_Wineskin]

So I wondered what GOD thinks about it and what HE meant by lukewarm? Because I agree that there are things like this that would be used to mold people in an image other than that of God's.


Do you have any thoughts on the way God may mean "lukewarm"?

Thanks

NewSong

Sure . Religious . Even when doing many things and being very active . Being involved in things supposedly *for* the Lord or even supposedly *of* the Lord but not gaining intimacy with Him . Definitely not His enemy but not desiring that friendship which is available and for which the Lord died and rose to make available . I know people who are considered to be "on fire for the Lord" because of the many things they are doing . With all of those activities , it is difficult for some of them to actually cultivate their relationship with Him .

[Entertaining_Angels]

I think 'lukewarm christians' are those who buy into a watered-down gospel. They practice the parts of Christianity that put the least amount of pressure on them. Some may believe they are superior to other Christians because they speak in tongues, have wealth, have had little hardship, put a large check in the offering plate, etc... These are just examples and I am in no way suggesting that these things make somebody lukewarm, only when accompanied by a puffed-up sense of self.

I think lukewarm christians are those who are more focused on themselves than they are the Lord.

[JimfromOhio]

Didn't I just answer this question somewhere? :scratch: Good thing I post all of my postings in my journals so I can remember what I said. :D


If you ever had occasion to drink a lukewarm soft drink, you know the feeling. This is an illustration of a lukewarm drink to describe the distaste that makes God spit out the church at Laodicea. He doesn't want to have anything to do with it. The Laodicean church was neither hot or cold; it was nauseating to God. The lukewarm ones are professing Christians who play religious games with God, but are not really His. They have been touched by the gospel in some way. They nauseate God because they know the truth but but avoid it. I have posted in another thread that There are people who claim to follow Christ who will avoid hearing "sound doctrine" (See 2 Timothy 4:1-8). There are many who profess to follow Christ seem to be unyielding to God's Word because they prefer to be surrounded by teachers who will tell them exactly what they want to hear. In 2 Timothy 4:3, "For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear."

Jesus pleads with individuals (church at) Laodicea today, "I want to come into your life. I want you to open the door and let Me in." He was also pleading with individuals in the Laodicean church (especially today) to let Him in before it was too late. Christ wants to come into your life and change it.

[simi]

lukewarm to me says...a Christian who honours the Lord with their words but not with their deeds. for example a Christian who is trying to conform to this world and still be a christian. A person who is intentially sinning. My brother was in a band and tehy sang a song called 3 second memory...it said "party on saturday, church on sunday...forgetting everything by monday" it was talking about how soem Christians partied, got drunk, went to church, repented then the next week did nothing about their walk with God,,,then the next saturday they did the same thing..

that is what i call a lukewarm Christian!

[Entertaining_Angels]

Didn't I just answer this question somewhere? :scratch: Good thing I post all of my postings in my journals so I can remember what I said. :D


If you ever had occasion to drink a lukewarm soft drink, you know the feeling. This is an illustration of a lukewarm drink to describe the distaste that makes God spit out the church at Laodicea. He doesn't want to have anything to do with it. The Laodicean church was neither hot or cold; it was nauseating to God. The lukewarm ones are professing Christians who play religious games with God, but are not really His. They have been touched by the gospel in some way. They nauseate God because they know the truth but but avoid it. I have posted in another thread that There are people who claim to follow Christ who will avoid hearing "sound doctrine" (See 2 Timothy 4:1-8). There are many who profess to follow Christ seem to be unyielding to God's Word because they prefer to be surrounded by teachers who will tell them exactly what they want to hear. In 2 Timothy 4:3, "For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear."

Jesus pleads with individuals (church at) Laodicea today, "I want to come into your life. I want you to open the door and let Me in." He was also pleading with individuals in the Laodicean church (especially today) to let Him in before it was too late. Christ wants to come into your life and change it.


Ooooh...oooh...oooh...may I add some verses. I love quoting from the first chapter of James and something in it just speaks to this.

22Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says. 23Anyone who listens to the word but does not do what it says is like a man who looks at his face in a mirror 24and, after looking at himself, goes away and immediately forgets what he looks like. 25But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it—he will be blessed in what he does.
26If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless. 27Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

Jim I just have to say :clap:

[JimfromOhio]

Ooooh...oooh...oooh...may I add some verses. I love quoting from the first chapter of James and something in it just speaks to this.

22Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says. 23Anyone who listens to the word but does not do what it says is like a man who looks at his face in a mirror 24and, after looking at himself, goes away and immediately forgets what he looks like. 25But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it—he will be blessed in what he does.
26If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless. 27Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

Jim I just have to say :clap:

Yes... that is related to "lukewarm" :thumbsup:

[NewSong]

Yes this is sort of a double post JimInOhio. I asked it both places because some will answer differently here than they do on the other forum and I was genuinely serious when I wanted some feedback.

OregonGirl. Appreciated your answer and that of the others.


I can't describe what I am going through but one minute I think it is me and the next minute I say no that isn't really me. I think someone said it on the other thread about wilderness experience...and I thought yeah I can relate to that.

Yet, I do not want to kid myself.

Do you know what I mean?

Thanks,

NewSong

[Entertaining_Angels]

I tend to believe that if you are worried about being lukewarm, you probably are not. I suspect most lukewarm types would never even give it a thought.

[HisLilyWhitePrincess]

I think "lukewarm" is when you are staying in one place in your relationship w/ God and have no desire to draw closer to him. Yes, I have wondered if I'm lukewarm, but I do my best, and I believe God understands

[shataytay]

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[janny108]

I think it's like having no spiritual passion about the Lord or the things of God.

If you are married, for ex. would you like your spouse to be so-so with you??

I would not.

Jan

[janny108]

I tend to believe that if you are worried about being lukewarm, you probably are not. I suspect most lukewarm types would never even give it a thought.

Yes I think so too. Because to me, a lukewarm person would not really care, much less be willing to do anything about it.

Jan

[simi]

I tend to believe that if you are worried about being lukewarm, you probably are not. I suspect most lukewarm types would never even give it a thought.

For sure. I guess if you think your life is going well and cruisy then it might be a good idea to take a step back and look at ur life. In most cases when life is cruisy you are not living in accordance to Gods will and could be turning luke warm.

But when you have troubles in your life, or are conscious of yoru faith adn staying on the right path, that is when you are on the right path. So often we go astary and dnt even realise till someoen pushes us back in line.

[NewSong]

Blessings to each of you who took so much time to share their heart and to share their encouragement with me. Hugs to all of you.

Thank you so much.

NewSong

[Rep Daddy]

In most cases when life is cruisy you are not living in accordance to Gods will and could be turning luke warm.



Love those Aussie-isms. :thumbsup:

[lismore]

Interesting and if that is the case, then I need prayer, at least I think I do but it is never an hour on Sunday....I think that I may be in trouble.

Not at all!

I meant a nominal Christian. When you're born again you cannot be lukewarm because he who has been forgiven much loves much.

A nominal Christian i.e one who attends meetings out of habit and is indifferent to issues that well they shouldnt be......................

Like if you hear someone taking the Lord's name in vain, how does that make you feel? I'll tell you it makes me want to do a phinehas!

[NewSong]

Not at all!

I meant a nominal Christian. When you're born again you cannot be lukewarm because he who has been forgiven much loves much.

A nominal Christian i.e one who attends meetings out of habit and is indifferent to issues that well they shouldnt be......................

Like if you hear someone taking the Lord's name in vain, how does that make you feel? I'll tell you it makes me want to do a phinehas!


Oh yeah, my hair stands on ends with things like the Lord's name taking in vain but people do that all the time and it is not even in cursing ya know. I mean they speak Jesus but sometimes I wonder if we really expect results when we say His name.

I like this aspect of the lukewarm as well. I think that is one place I see me as passionate.

Thanks,
NewSong

[lismore]

Oh yeah, my hair stands on ends with things like the Lord's name taking in vain but people do that all the time and it is not even in cursing ya know. I mean they speak Jesus but sometimes I wonder if we really expect results when we say His name.

I like this aspect of the lukewarm as well. I think that is one place I see me as passionate.

Thanks,
NewSong

Hi NewSong:wave:

I think thats a good way you can tell if someone is lukewarm.

Psalm 69:9 NIV (http://www.ibs.org/niv/passagesearch.php?passage_request=Psalm 69:9)
for zeal for your house consumes me, and the insults of those who insult you fall on me.

If you hear someone taking the Lord's name in vain and like you say, your hair stands on end, or you are grieved, or like me if you want to run over and banjo them:eek: then you are definitely not lukewarm.

:)

[Asaph]

Show me one place in the bible that speaks of a "lukewarm Christian" and I will then answer you.

Asaph

[NewSong]

Asaph:


It was a figure of speech but I was referring to the condition of lukewarm.

No you are right there are no lukewarm christians and I misused the term but nonetheless, I stil wanted the feed back to the condition of lukewarmness where God said He would spit them out. Personally I feel like I am dying and there is nothing I can do about it.

God Bless,
NewSong

Revelation 3:16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

[shataytay]

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[NewSong]

What? You know better.

Revelation 3:19 "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent."

That's all there is to it.


I would repent if I knew what to repent. Shoot I repent of getting up and sitting down. But thank you for sharing that verse. How precious. God bless you and many thanks.

NewSong

[f U z ! o N]

being lukewarm to me is when we don't always put God first and we don't try to further live a godly life. it happens to all christians. we all go through a spell of lukewarmness. the thing is we have to get back up and keep going for the goal! i just came out of mine tonight! praise God!

[NewSong]

being lukewarm to me is when we don't always put God first and we don't try to further live a godly life. it happens to all christians. we all go through a spell of lukewarmness. the thing is we have to get back up and keep going for the goal! i just came out of mine tonight! praise God!

Thank you for sharing :) :clap: I am happy for you. :)

NewSong

[Apologetic]

First of all - How can I know that I am not lukewarm? If it means not spending enough time with the Lord, I believe we are all lukewarm. If it means being selfish of heart, then we are all lukewarm. If it has to do with our striving to keep of God's law at all - loving Him with all our HEARTS and SOULS and MIND and POWER, then we all have to judge ourselves lukewarm, if we are truly honest about ourselves. We are sinners. Saved sinners, yes, but still sinners nonetheless, in constant need of God's mercy.

Then what does God mean, when He says "lukewarm"?

I think we should look at the context of this quote, not the quote alone. Let Scripture interpret Scripture instead of our creativity ;)

This was the Lord's message to the Laodiceans: (21st KJV)
Revelation 3:
14"And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write: `These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God:

Let us start here, where Jesus addresses the congregation. In all His letters, He introduces Himself by symbols related to His message. The faithful and true Witness, the beginning of the Creation of God (not that He was created, but Christ IS HImself the beginning). Jesus wants to say that He is faithful and true, doesn't deceive anyone, never let's anybody down, in contrast to what people in this church has done to Him.

15I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot; I would thou wert cold or hot.
16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of My mouth.

Here is the passage we have been talking about. Now, let Scripture speak for itself.

17Because thou sayest, "I am rich and increased with goods and have need of nothing," and knowest not that thou art wretched and miserable, and poor and blind and naked,

Being spiritually blind and naked means you are not clothed in the righteousness of Christ, but instead you are trying to make your own righteousness by striving to keep the law. Read Zachariah 3. They have fallen into self-righteousness, striving to keep the law to make themselves righteous in God's eyes. They are putting Jesus aside, saying "no, it's not" when Jesus says from the cross "It is finished!".

18I counsel thee to buy from Me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich, and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed and that the shame of thy nakedness may not appear, and anoint thine eyes with eye salve, that thou mayest see.

Gold tried in the fire - what is that, unless it is Jesus' righteousness? He was put through many trials and temptations, yet without sin (Hebrews 4,15). Now He pleads the people of the congregation to buy gold from Him, that they may have part in His righteousness, like Isaiah says in 55,1:
"Come, all you who are thirsty,
come to the waters;
and you who have no money,
come, buy and eat!
Come, buy wine and milk
without money and without cost.

Justification by faith is nothing less than being clothed in Jesus' own righteousness. That way, God doesn't see your sins when you come before Him. He sees Jesus' own righteousness which He has judged belongs to you, because Jesus took your place, that you may receive His. This explains both the gold, the raiment and now for the ointment for the eyes. You see, when you read the Scriptures in with "Christ in your place" as the key, you will see Jesus in every single book of the Bible! You will see Jesus all over the place in the Bible. Prophecies, lives that somehow have similarities to Christ's work of salvation for us... You'll see the whole gospel foretold.

19As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Somebody here said Jesus wanted nothing to do with the Laodiceans. This proves that person wrong. If Jesus wanted nothing to do with the Laodiceans, He wouldn't have bothered to warn them. But Jesus loves them, and God doesn't want for any ungodly person to die, He wants them to repent and receive the gift of salvation FOR FREE, that they may live.

Ezekiel 18,23: Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?

20Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If any man hear My voice and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with Me.

Repenting and turning to Jesus doesn't mean you pull yourself together. It means you let Him into your heart. "How do I do that," you say. Just take comfort in the truth - that Jesus died in your place, on the cross and paid your sin-debt in full with His blood, then rose again that YOU may receive His righteousness FREELY. This, my friends, is the gospel of the forgiveness of sins. It is in which children of God believe and are saved.

21To him that overcometh, will I grant to sit with Me on My throne, even as I also overcame and am set down with My Father on His throne.

What a wonderful promise! Think - to be with Jesus for all eternity! What joy, what praise God is worthy of - that He alone has made this possible for every single person on earth! May everyone of us reach the goal, and stand clothed in Jesus' righteousness the day we stand before the throne of the Holy Judge. He who puts his faith in the Son, shall not be ashamed. (Rom 9,33)

22He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches!'"

Amen!

Passages to prove our righteousness is not righteous at all before the Lord:
Isa 64,6 (KJV): But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Zachariah 3: (The High Priest was wearing in dirty clothes)

Many more, which I do not remember currently.

Scripture passages to prove it is being clothed in Christ's righteousness that let's us enter heaven in His name:

1Pet 1,1: Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

Jer 23,6: In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

1Cor 1,30: But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption

Many more here also, but read the Bible for yourselves!! :D

May the Lord reveal this great secret of the holy gospel to you
Amen

[Asaph]

Asaph:


It was a figure of speech but I was referring to the condition of lukewarm.

No you are right there are no lukewarm christians and I misused the term but nonetheless, I stil wanted the feed back to the condition of lukewarmness where God said He would spit them out. Personally I feel like I am dying and there is nothing I can do about it.

God Bless,
NewSong

Revelation 3:16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.



I think we all have dry places in our walks at times. Those are designed to build up our faith I think.

But the scripture you provided is speaking to the leadership of one particular church I think. (I am certainly no expert on the book of revelation though).

Asaph

[NewSong]

I think we all have dry places in our walks at times. Those are designed to build up our faith I think.

But the scripture you provided is speaking to the leadership of one particular church I think. (I am certainly no expert on the book of revelation though).

Asaph

Yeah I think you are right. I downloaded a whole lot of reference materials and I think you hit the nail on the head about the the one church. I am sure you are right.


Dry places? Wow that was a mouthful. I was praying and honest injun ... this is what I thought I heard God say and I wasn't even trying to hear Him anymore. I was kind of just saying what I had to say and then I was going to move on in my kind of "in shock" "paralyzed" "Limbo" state. I was just kind of zoned out and not able to focus or unfocus or anything, ya know kind of existing and then I heard very clearly "I even have made streams in the dessert" and I knew right then and there that was for me and that I was aware that it was for me to understand no matter how dried up I am and ready to blow away that God's well never runs dry and he would make a way regardless of what I was or wasn't for spiritual condition.
Thank you.
Newsong

[Dmckay]

Revelation 3:16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.


Do you ever wonder if your are hot or cold or lukewarm? What do you do to get hot if it is something you can do about your condition? Is it a condtion? Thanks for your feedback.

NewSong
You have the verse. Lukewarm = vomit!!!

[Asaph]

Yeah I think you are right. I downloaded a whole lot of reference materials and I think you hit the nail on the head about the the one church. I am sure you are right.


Dry places? Wow that was a mouthful. I was praying and honest injun ... this is what I thought I heard God say and I wasn't even trying to hear Him anymore. I was kind of just saying what I had to say and then I was going to move on in my kind of "in shock" "paralyzed" "Limbo" state. I was just kind of zoned out and not able to focus or unfocus or anything, ya know kind of existing and then I heard very clearly "I even have made streams in the dessert" and I knew right then and there that was for me and that I was aware that it was for me to understand no matter how dried up I am and ready to blow away that God's well never runs dry and he would make a way regardless of what I was or wasn't for spiritual condition.
Thank you.
Newsong

I know for me anyway, I can look back at those dry places and see that they actually served to strengthen my faith. And usually, I will remember distincly asking God to strengthen my faith prior to the long desert walk ever beginning. :doh:

It's so much easier to see God working in us in hindsight!...:D

Asaph

[NewSong]

I know for me anyway, I can look back at those dry places and see that they actually served to strengthen my faith. And usually, I will remember distincly asking God to strengthen my faith prior to the long desert walk ever beginning. :doh:

It's so much easier to see God working in us in hindsight!...:D

Asaph

Yes, I do not remember asking it But yes it is easier to see God working in us with "hindsight" :D :blush: :eek:

[Carrye]

Revelation 3:16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.



I always think of what it tastes like to drink water that's been sitting in the car in 110 degree weather. It's worse than not having any water at all.

[Church Punk]

Didn't I just answer this question somewhere? :scratch: Good thing I post all of my postings in my journals so I can remember what I said. :D


If you ever had occasion to drink a lukewarm soft drink, you know the feeling. This is an illustration of a lukewarm drink to describe the distaste that makes God spit out the church at Laodicea. He doesn't want to have anything to do with it. The Laodicean church was neither hot or cold; it was nauseating to God. The lukewarm ones are professing Christians who play religious games with God, but are not really His. They have been touched by the gospel in some way. They nauseate God because they know the truth but but avoid it. I have posted in another thread that There are people who claim to follow Christ who will avoid hearing "sound doctrine" (See 2 Timothy 4:1-8). There are many who profess to follow Christ seem to be unyielding to God's Word because they prefer to be surrounded by teachers who will tell them exactly what they want to hear. In 2 Timothy 4:3, "For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear."

Jesus pleads with individuals (church at) Laodicea today, "I want to come into your life. I want you to open the door and let Me in." He was also pleading with individuals in the Laodicean church (especially today) to let Him in before it was too late. Christ wants to come into your life and change it.

I like this! Also drinking a cold soft drink is refreshing.

I think the point Christ is making is to be a useful Christian. Hot water is good for washing and soaking a weak body...(like when I get home from work). And nothing is as useful on a hot day like a cold glass of water.
BUT A LUKEWARM BATH OR A LUKE WARM GLASS OF WATER IS GOOD FOR NOTHING.

Grace and Peace <><

[Asaph]

Yes, I do not remember asking it But yes it is easier to see God working in us with "hindsight" :D :blush: :eek:

If I can help you in anyway Sis, just remember there is no such thing in scripture as a "lukewarm christian". It does not exist. In fact, your own "man induced" fear that you are one, proves that there is no such thing. If you were lukewarm about our Love Jesus, you would not even care that you were.

Your own concern is proof that you cannot be "lukewarm".

God holds you, you don't hold Him.

No worries.

Asaph

[NewSong]

If I can help you in anyway Sis, just remember there is no such thing in scripture as a "lukewarm christian". It does not exist. In fact, your own "man induced" fear that you are one, proves that there is no such thing. If you were lukewarm about our Love Jesus, you would not even care that you were.

Your own concern is proof that you cannot be "lukewarm".

God holds you, you don't hold Him.

No worries.

Asaph

Thank you Asaph. You have really been here for me already. Thank you so much. I really appreciate your posts. Thanks so much.

NewSong

[Apologetic]

no replies to my post... I hope somebody read it.

[holo]

no replies to my post... I hope somebody read it.There's not much to add to it...

[NewSong]

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I too, did not feel there was anything I wanted to add to the post. I do thank you for taking time to post.


I want to thank all the posters for the material they posted and for their thoughts on the subjected. I think that there were some excellent thoughts, opinions, and some very good material.

God Bless all of you.

NewSong

[Apologetic]

God bless you too, Newsong, for bringing this very important subject to our minds :hug:

[joyinhim]

I like this! Also drinking a cold soft drink is refreshing.

I think the point Christ is making is to be a useful Christian. Hot water is good for washing and soaking a weak body...(like when I get home from work). And nothing is as useful on a hot day like a cold glass of water.
BUT A LUKEWARM BATH OR A LUKE WARM GLASS OF WATER IS GOOD FOR NOTHING.

Grace and Peace <><

I like yours a lot. To me lukewarm also means that we never say anything when we see a bad witnesses for Jesus.