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NewGuy101
3rd July 2005, 02:25 PM
I was going over Genesis and I read a part where Abraham seems to lie about both Sarah and (later on) Rebekah about them being his wifes because of fear of being killed because they were so beautiful. Why is that? Is it some sort of cultural thing or what?
twistedsketch
3rd July 2005, 05:35 PM
First, he didn't lie about Rebekah because he never met her. Rebekah was Issac's wife.
Second, Abraham lied about Sarah TWICE because he was gutless. He was afraid that the locals would kill him so they could have her. Wanting to save his own life, he said "she is my sister" because they wouldn't think there was a husband in the way. God did save his tail both times, but had he acted on faith, neither of those ugly incidents would have happened.
Macca
4th July 2005, 02:37 AM
First, he didn't lie about Rebekah because he never met her. Rebekah was Issac's wife.
Second, Abraham lied about Sarah TWICE because he was gutless. He was afraid that the locals would kill him so they could have her. Wanting to save his own life, he said "she is my sister" because they wouldn't think there was a husband in the way. God did save his tail both times, but had he acted on faith, neither of those ugly incidents would have happened.
Your answer is correct; but you have never made an error of judgement that showed a lack of faith?
Macca. :preach:
twistedsketch
5th July 2005, 07:06 PM
I have.
Macca
6th July 2005, 02:41 AM
I have.
So! Does that make you gutless as you said Abraham was?
I have made many errors of judgement, but do not consider myself gutless, just human.
:preach:
twistedsketch
6th July 2005, 08:55 AM
I tend to be pretty hard on myself, so at times, yes I was gutless.
vinc
6th July 2005, 10:36 AM
Yes i agree, Rebecca was Isaac's wife (Abraham's Son through his wife Sarah). The names of a few of Abraham's wives are mentioned in Genesis. They are Hagar (Genesis 16:3) and Keturah (Genesis 25:1) and besides them Abraham had some concubines too (Genesis 25:6).
Sarah was a beautiful woman and fair to look at (Genesis 12:11). Therefore Abraham was afraid that the Egyptians might kill him and save her life in order that someone of them might marry her instead. So, Abraham suggested Sarah to inform the Egyptians (in case they ask) that she was his sister (and not his wife) so that the Egyptians might not kill him.
It is but natural for any non-violent husband of a beautiful and fair woman to feel scared. God was strong on behalf of Abraham and intervened when Sarah was taken to the Pharoah's house. God plagued Pharoah and his house and protected her from the Pharoah.
This was one such classic case where God showed how much He was concerned for the protection of His chosen person's (Abraham's) wife. Abraham respected God and God respected Abraham and made an everlasting covenant with Him.
Mr.Cheese
10th July 2005, 05:42 PM
Back then, you kill the guy, and you then own his wife and all of his possessions. So Abe was using some slickness to negotiate such obstacles.
A dead Abraham = Unfulfilled promise of descendents.
I guess that's one way to look at it.
Simonline
12th July 2005, 03:56 AM
For the record...Abraham wasn't lying. Sarai really was his sister (as well as his wife)...check your geneologies.
Simonline.
vinc
12th July 2005, 09:52 AM
Yes i agree with Simonline.
Sarah was the daughter of Haran. Haran was the elder brother of Abraham i.e Haran and Abraham were the sons of Terah. According to the Book of Jasher (mentioned in the OT-Bible in Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18) Haran was 32 years older than Abraham. Abraham was 10 years old when Sarah was born to Haran. So, Abraham was not lying. In a way Sarah was a close relative of his (i.e niece) and more like a sister to him.
Genesis 20:12 - And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.
Here, Abraham says that Sarah is the daughter of his father Terah to imply that she was born to Terah's eldest son Haran and that Sarah belonged to the genealogy of his father and not his mother.
There is a book called Book of Abraham which did not make it to the Bible Canon but provides extra information regarded Abraham and his life similar to the Book of Jasher. I hope the following chapter from the Book of Abraham would make a good read as part of this topic.
CHAPTER 50
NOW, among the believers were Lot, the son of Haran, and Haran's daughters, Milcah and Sarai.
2. Milcah was fair, but Sarai was beautiful above all women.
3. Her face was as that of an angel filled with light, her cheeks as two roses in full bloom, her hair as spun gold which men treasure above all, her eyes as pools of blue reflecting the glory of God's sky, her nose delicate and lovely, and her countenance truly was fair as the sun.
4. Her breasts like two mountains rising above the plain of Shinar were fair to behold, and her complexion truly like the clouds in purity.
5. Her arms were comely, her hands perfect and delightful to behold, always in the service of those in need and quick to hasten to the service of the Lord her God.
6. Her palms were lovely, unmarred by her constant labor, her fingers long and slender.
7. Her feet were comely and always set in the path of truth.
8. Her thighs were wellrounded and soft, yet never failing to sustain her in her labor of love in behalf of the servants of God.
9. Truly no maiden was fairer than Sarai, the daughter of Haran, for her beauty was greater than all other women and she excelled them all.
10. But with her beauty was great wisdom and perfect faith in the Lord and constant service in behalf of the saints, for her hands never cease from blessing the people of God.
11. Wherefore, my brother Nahor took Milcah, the daughter of Haran, to wife, but I Abram, took Sarai at the direction of the Lord and I found great joy in her.
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