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Fish and Bread
29th June 2005, 05:02 PM
http://www.cartoonchurch.com/content/cc/anglican-consultative-council/

John

Zacharias
29th June 2005, 05:07 PM
Who are the dotted-line people supposed to be?

Fish and Bread
29th June 2005, 05:25 PM
Who are the dotted-line people supposed to be?

They're supposed to be the delegates from the Episcopal Church USA and the Anglican Church of Canada. They were asked not to actively participate in the meeting or vote due to the recent controversies that have divided the Anglican Communion, but were allowed to show up as observers so they could see firsthand what was going on with a lot of the charity projects and such that those provinces are working on together with other Anglican provinces around the world.

John

Zacharias
29th June 2005, 05:28 PM
They're supposed to be the delegates from the Episcopal Church USA and the Anglican Church of Canada. They were asked not to actively participate in the meeting or vote due to the recent controversies that have divided the Anglican Communion, but were allowed to show up as observers so they could see firsthand what was going on with a lot of the charity projects and such that those provinces are working on together with other Anglican provinces around the world.

John
I should of known that. :blush:

G~d bless, Freak4JC

Aymn27
29th June 2005, 05:37 PM
They're supposed to be the delegates from the Episcopal Church USA and the Anglican Church of Canada. They were asked not to actively participate in the meeting or vote due to the recent controversies that have divided the Anglican Communion, but were allowed to show up as observers so they could see firsthand what was going on with a lot of the charity projects and such that those provinces are working on together with other Anglican provinces around the world.

John
Ok, so who's the "grumpy" people? those in opposition?

Fish and Bread
29th June 2005, 06:05 PM
Ok, so who's the "grumpy" people? those in opposition?

The primates meeting earlier in the year requested that the two provinces voluntarily withdraw their delegates from the then-upcoming consultative council meeting in Nottingham other than to send some theologians to give presentations explaining why the US consecrated a homosexual bishop and why some same-sex blessings were performed in Canada. The two provinces did voluntarily withdraw, but still were on the premises as observers to observe some but not all of the sessions about various projects they were a part of, to talk with others informally if some of the international delegates wanted to consult with them on a one on one basis, for fellowship purposes, to witness their own province's presentations, and so forth. Some of those opposed to the decision to consecrate Bishop Robinson thought the American and Canadian delegates shouldn't have been in attendence at all, even as observers.

John

Fish and Bread
29th June 2005, 06:24 PM
Video of ECUSA team's presentation, which included a talk by Bishop Jenkins, who opposes homosexuality but is encouraging unity, may be found at:
http://www.episcopalchurch.org/3577_63051_ENG_HTM.htm

The 135 page report written by ECUSA theologians for the Anglican Consultative Council meeting, entitled "To Set Our Hope on Christ" may be found at:
http://www.episcopalchurch.org/documents/ToSetOurHopeOnChrist.pdf

Unfortunately, my computer doesn't handle PDF files very well, so I haven't been able to actually read the report. If anyone knows where I can find an HTML version, please let me know. :)

John

Fish and Bread
29th June 2005, 06:48 PM
Fair warning on the links: Neither of them worked very well on my computer, so if your machine or Internet connection is subpar, you may want to spare yourself the frustration. :)

John

Fish and Bread
30th June 2005, 07:51 PM
I finally did get a chance to read ECUSA's report, after a lot of fiddling around with my computer. It's a wonderful report and makes for very engaging reading considering that it's a theological document. I read it in a single sitting. :)

I agreed with probably 95% of it, as well as the overall point they were trying to make, and think there's a good chance that it'll be looked back upon as being a very important treatise one day. There were a couple minor points that I'd take issue with, but I never agree with anything completely. :)

John