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[GaelSong]

i AM JUST a visitor to your forum as i am interdenominational (now that's a big word). I believe Jesus was a rebel Jew, what say you, was he an Essene. I do believe Messianic Jews are the closest to what christianity was and is meant to portray. Sorry to but into your forum..:)

[SpiritPsalmist]

You are not butting in. You are welcome to fellowship with us as often as you like. http://forum.chip.co.id/images/smilies/extra/yay.gif

[GaelSong]

Are you the Quaffer who shares my birth date...now that's a God-insidence

[GaelSong]

Just checked !!!you are!!!!amazing How God moves us......

[GaelSong]

could anyone answer my questions, they are quite genuine...I love differing opinions too.

Thanks
Merri

[A_Pioneer]

Yeshua, in rebellion against the Father?
OH MY! God forbid!

[Henaynei]

could anyone answer my questions, they are quite genuine...I love differing opinions too.

Thanks
Merri
could you clarify - I'm not sure what you mean by questions as I don't actually see any questions in the original post :)

[GaelSong]

I wasn't very clear sorry, do you think Jesus was married, had kids all that...please don't shoot me down, this is a genuine question.

[Henaynei]

no shots - just genuine answer - no :)

[plum]

I also have never heard of him being considered an Essene.....

[christinepro]

Did any of you read The DaVinici Code? It wouldn't matter to me if Yeshua had a child to continue the lineage. Who cares!! He is still the Messiah. What's your oppinions of the DaVinci code?

[insaneinthebrain]

I also have never heard of him being considered an Essene.....
He does have a few teachings that seem to agree with them, which would imply a slight Essene influence. As a result, there are those who view him as having been an Essene.

I, however, disagree. ;)

I tend to agree with David Flusser that Luke 16:8
And his master praised the unrighteous manager because he had acted shrewdly; for the sons of this age are more shrewd in relation to their own kind than the sons of light.
is referring to the Essenes when it mentions "sons of light." Notice it isn't particularly flattering. ;)

[Torah]

I agree “no”
"DaVinici Code" That Explains it. Take care to what you read. :sigh:

[christinepro]

I agree “no”
"DaVinici Code" That Explains it. Take care to what you read. :sigh:

Did you read it? There is some stuff I could take from that book and some stuff I could leave. It is fiction anyway.

[Henaynei]

Did you read it? There is some stuff I could take from that book and some stuff I could leave. It is fiction anyway. I place the DaVinci Code in the same heap as The Passover Plot and other so called "higher criticism" - as the old Sunday School song goes..."be careful little eyes what you see..."

Marriage and childbearing were extremely big issues in Yeshua's day - if Yeshua had been married scripture would have said so - and no amount off cultic post-Yeshua writings amount to a hill of beans when they state things that conflict with scripture - they are (all too often successful) attempts by HaSatan to foster the hairline cracks of questioning and doubt in the inerrant message from HaShem that eventually become confusion and apostasy.

[chunkofcoal]

I also have never heard of him being considered an Essene.....

I think I understand that idea. There are some people out there who think Yeshua was an Essene, studied with Buddhists, etc., and that is how He came to have knowledge of things. Back in my heathen days (! :P ) I read these ideas and pondered them myself. But then I realized, How did the Son of God come to have knowledge?! ( Made me kind of slap my head and go, "Duh!")

As for the Da Vinci Code - It is fiction but some people believe it to be true. It isn't the only book out there, though, that is trying to get people into what they call "The Divine Feminine". The whole "goddess" idea seems to make women stumble in particular - I admit that I've been there, done that, because at one point I considered going to a meeting of a coven. (Just considered, didn't go. Thank God! Especially after I read a bit about a "goat god" that they worshiped.) But I think I had the idea that in Christianity women were subservient and maybe not as good as the men. But, since then I have come to realize that God does use women for His purposes, so He has daughters, too! :clap: :bow:

'And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, "Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother."'(Matt. 12:49-50)

[christinepro]

I think I understand that idea. There are some people out there who think Yeshua was an Essene, studied with Buddhists, etc., and that is how He came to have knowledge of things. Back in my heathen days (! :P ) I read these ideas and pondered them myself. But then I realized, How did the Son of God come to have knowledge?! ( Made me kind of slap my head and go, "Duh!")

As for the Da Vinci Code - It is fiction but some people believe it to be true. It isn't the only book out there, though, that is trying to get people into what they call "The Divine Feminine". The whole "goddess" idea seems to make women stumble in particular - I admit that I've been there, done that, because at one point I considered going to a meeting of a coven. (Just considered, didn't go. Thank God! Especially after I read a bit about a "goat god" that they worshiped.) But I think I had the idea that in Christianity women were subservient and maybe not as good as the men. But, since then I have come to realize that God does use women for His purposes, so He has daughters, too! :clap: :bow:

'And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, "Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother."'(Matt. 12:49-50)

Very nicely put. I am glad I read the DaVinci Code and I am very happy I could take what I need from it and leave the rest. People do forget that it is only fiction. It is nice to have freedom to read what we chose.

[Bananna]

Hello.

No Yehoshuah never had a wife and children. However he did have Mother, two sisters and four brothers. I believe one of his sisters was called the other mary and one called Elizabeth from an obscure reference in Acts. The brothers are listed a couple of times by name.

Mat 13:55 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat013.html#55) Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

It was not possible for Yehoshuah to be an Esscene from what I understand, he was not a separatist. However I do understand that he may have used some of the similar Targums of the day. Yehoshuah divided Torah rightly and used many traditional stories to help the people remember truth.

[CovenantRay]

Shalom:

Y'shua was not married, did not have children.

The Divinci code is a fiction, but one that is compelling; If one buys into the heresy, one removes His divinity. Following that [non-]logic, there is no sin, therefore no accountability or judgement.

The Divinci code is a rehash of an earlier book, Holy Blood, Holy Grail. They weaken the resolve of new believers and dissuade seekers of the Truth.

These are not harmless books.

CovenantRay :prayer:

[Henaynei]

Shalom:

Y'shua was not married, did not have children.

The Divinci code is a fiction, but one that is compelling; If one buys into the heresy, one removes His divinity. Following that [non-]logic, there is no sin, therefore no accountability or judgement.

The Divinci code is a rehash of an earlier book, Holy Blood, Holy Grail. They weaken the resolve of new believers and dissuade seekers of the Truth.

These are not harmless books.

CovenantRay :prayer: not unlike Scientology - which originally was a science fiction novel by L Ron Hubbard that developed a cultic religion based on the "principles" in his novels :sigh: