Do messianic Jews expect Elijah?

[kofh2u]

Messianic Jews are looking for Elijah or has Elijah come?

And, if Elijah comes how will the world know him?

[Tishri1]

he will be like the scriptures describe him...

Revelation 11:3-13 3 "And I will grant authority to my two (a)witnesses, and they will prophesy for (b)twelve hundred and sixty days, clothed in c)sackcloth." 3 1/2 years, Yom Kippur Tishri 10, 6000-Nissan 10 ,6003 4 These are the (a)two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth. 5 And if anyone desires to harm them, a)fire proceeds out of their mouth and devours their enemies; and if anyone would desire to harm them, (b)in this manner he must be killed. 6 These have the power to (a)shut up the sky, in order that rain may not fall during (b)the days of their prophesying; and they have power over the waters to (c)turn them into blood, and (d)to smite the earth with every plague, as often as they desire. 7 And when they have finished their testimony, (a)the beast that comes up out of the (b)abyss will (c)make war with them, and overcome them and kill them. 8 And their dead (1)bodies will lie in the street of the (a)great city which 2)mystically is called (b)Sodom and (c)Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified. 9 And those from (a)the peoples and tribes and tongues and nations will look at their dead (1)bodies for three and a half days, and (2b)will not permit their dead bodies to be laid in a tomb. 10 And (a)those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them and make merry; and they will (b)send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented (a)those who dwell on the earth. 11 And after the three and a half days Passover Nissan 14, 6003 (a)the breath of life from God came into them, and they stood on their feet; and great fear fell upon those who were beholding them. 12 And they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, (a)"Come up here." And they (b)went up into heaven in the cloud, and their enemies beheld them. 13 And in that hour there was a great a)earthquake, and a tenth of the city fell; and (1)seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the rest were terrified and (b)gave glory to the c)God of heaven.

Malachi 4:5-6 5 "Behold, I am going to send you (a)Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and terrible day of the LORD. 6 "And he will (1a)restore the hearts of the fathers to their children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers, lest I come and (b)smite the land with a 2)curse."


Matthew 17:1-11 NAS Matthew 17:1 (a)And six days later Jesus took with Him (b)Peter and (1)James and John his brother, and brought them up to a high mountain by themselves. 2 And He was transfigured before them; and His face shone like the sun, and His garments became as white as light. 3 And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with Him. 4 And Peter answered and said to Jesus, "Lord, it is good for us to be here; if You wish, a)I will make three (1)tabernacles Sukkot here, one for You, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah." 5 While he was still speaking, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them; and behold, (a)a voice out of the cloud, saying, (b)"This is My beloved Son, with whom I am well-pleased; listen to Him!" 6 And when the disciples heard this, they fell on their faces and were much afraid. 7 And Jesus came to them and touched them and said, "Arise, and (a)do not be afraid." 8 And lifting up their eyes, they saw no one, except Jesus Himself alone. 9 (a)And as they were coming down from the mountain, Jesus commanded them, saying, (b)"Tell the vision to no one until (c)the Son of Man has (d)risen from the dead." 10 And His disciples asked Him, saying, "Why then do the scribes say that (a)Elijah must come first?" 11 And He answered and said, "Elijah is coming and will restore all things;


James 5:17-20 7 Elijah was (a)a man with a nature like ours, and (b)he prayed (1)earnestly that it might not rain; and it did not rain on the earth for c)three years and six months. 18 And he (a)prayed again, and (b)the (1)sky 2)poured rain, and the earth produced its fruit. 19 My brethren, (a)if any among you strays from (b)the truth, and one turns him back, 20 let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will (a)save his soul from death, and will (b)cover a multitude of sins.

[MyLittleWonders]

I like the way you think Tish!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Tishri1 again.

[Tishri1]

I like the way you think Tish!I get so excited I have to run laps around the house!:clap:..."AJ" can't figure out how to keep up!

[visionary]

To start the Rosh Hashanah you must have two witnesses spot the new moon. Look at the purpose. Numbers 10:1-2 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps.Now the two trumpets of silver can be paralleled to the two witnesses who are calling people to the last call of redemption. The two witnesses will call for the ingathering of the believers and for the journeying that will need to be done spiritually to be in the place in the wilderness, where God can again speak to us as it was at Mount Sinai.

Remember brass represents judgment, gold is divine nature, and silver is redemption. There is no silver in the new heaven and earth reign of Messiah, indicating that redemption has ceased for there is not more need for it in a new world of saints in whom is no guile, and who are perfect in Messiah. Notice how God interjects here when Peter was wanting to treat Moses and Elias special.Matthew 17:4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Yeshua, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. 5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. 6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid.Now that will be the time when the book is opened and it tastes sweet, but when the full impact of what this means, to the wicked and those in rebellion to the Word of God will cause the stomach to churn. Notice how the little book is open before the two witnesses appear on the scene. I think it is important.Revelation 10:9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.When the two witnesses come, they will come in the power from on High. They will be able to command plagues like Moses and conviction will be with their words, for Yeshua will be with them like a voice out of the cloud. The clouded mind that each and every one of us has is confusion on one point or another, lost and not knowing where to turn, will be cleared by the messages of the two witnesses of Revelation. It will ring true and will be like the voice of God to our hearts and minds. It will bring us convictions, repentance, and salvation in the mysteries of God that have for so long been covered by traditions and our own sinful lives. They will cause the mystery of God to be finished. The hidden things of God will no longer bee hidden, the truth will shine in all its glory.

The two witnesses' message and the son of perdition that appears to confuse the masses brings about tribulation such as never before witnessed upon the earth. Tribulation of the mind and turmoil with the conflicts of information given. As tribulation is in everyone’s mind, so also will the outwards signs of turmoil be among the people, as the rulers look to control the masses, and leaders look to lead the crowd. Everyone will be taking a position, everyone holding and protesting even if it takes forcing their beliefs or position upon others until there is nothing left to be said because everyone is willing to die for the position they will then hold. All the world will then be judged accordingly, and the plaques will fall afflicting each and everyone justly in righteous judgement.Rev. 13:5 And there was given unto him [the sea beast] a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.In that three and one half time period, during this turmoil, those who are witnessing for Messiah will find it getting extremely difficult to the point that they will wear out. They will be exhausted from warning and wooing on the hardness of the hearts of men to change while there is still an opportunity.Daniel 7:25 And he [the horn that came up] shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.During the Rosh Hashanah, you will have watchmen who will give out the trumpet warning, the heralding of the news, the announcements of what is soon to come to pass. These watchmen on the wall of Zion are the two witnesses of Revelation.Numbers 11:24 And Moses went out, and told the people the words of the LORD, and gathered the seventy men of the elders of the people, and set them round about the tabernacle. 25 And the LORD came down in a cloud, and spake unto him, and took of the spirit that was upon him, and gave it unto the seventy elders: and it came to pass, that, when the spirit rested upon them, they prophesied, and did not cease. 26 But there remained two of the men in the camp, the name of the one was Eldad, and the name of the other Medad: and the spirit rested upon them; and they were of them that were written, but went not out unto the tabernacle: and they prophesied in the camp. Think of Rev 11:1-2 when you read this verse. There are two groups of people mentioned in Rev 11:1-2, those that are in the temple and those that are outside in the outer court.

So it will be when the two witnesses, in Revelation, prophesy to the world, they will open the eyes of the world as to what is going on in God’s world. They will also show what is going on and going to happen in our world as we near the end of earth’s history. That is why they are called witnesses instead of prophets because just as soon as they speak of it, it will happen.

[Tishri1]

**Tishri is running laps again...Yippy!** :clap: **AJ is too slow**:sigh: