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Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 02:29 AM
I am wondering what everyone is thinking of my walk according to how the posts I've been posting.

I have wanted to do all I can to brind across others Truth. Yet, I feel as though most are looking at me like I am a LIAR. Well, maybe it is a boastful kind of spirit? Maybe it is a spirit of discord? Maybe it is a spirit of hate?

Tell me what you see in me?

I quit several things in my life so I can start living Right in HaShem with the Faith Yeshua lived in. He, Yeshua after all lived in Torah. And no, I dont' see Yeshua as TORAH. Yes, He lived in it. I used to think of Him as Torah, but not now.

Most of you don't know me personally at all. You don't know where I've been and probably don't know where I am going. Yet, you do have thoughts and judgements of who you think I am. I am now asking your HONEST(Humble) or even STERN Opinions.

Have you seen any improvement in me since I've been here on MJ part of CF? Or am I just what ever you can think of in the negative sense.

I am polling on whether you all want me to stay or go or you just dont' know. Closing Poll on my birthday the 27th of July.

Shalom,

Tag

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 02:35 AM
I am very open to venting. Say what ever you feel toward me. I can take anything even cursing. Yet, I know none of you will curse. I grew up listening to cursing every other word and when I was in Prison I heard so much. Guess I have some what of a hardness in me. Or should I go back to smoking pot? After all it soothed me and leveled my thoughts. OH HOW I HATE THAT!!!

Tishri1
23rd June 2005, 02:54 AM
I think we all have a real enemy out there and it isn't flesh and blood...I think at times we take turns being manipulated by him and that's our weakness as human beings...But I also believe that with time we can over come our own weakness , the lies of the enemy, and start to live more and more like Yeshua...WWYD(What Would Yeshua Do) should be written on everyone's heart....Imagine what this place will look like when that begins to happen!

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 03:05 AM
I see the Wisdom of Judaism. I also see the LOVE of Christianity. Yet, Judaism is kind of COLD. And Christianity is lacking in itself. Many here can see much of this. Yet, who should we listen to MAN OR HASHEM? Yes, I understand YESHUA is to be BOWED DOWN TO. YET, I CAN'T SEE WHERE you SEE THAT HE IS HASHEM... HOW? Don't try to explain. I AM SET, YESHUA IS SUB-SERVANT TO HASHEM. HE ISN"T EQUAL on the THRONE. READ, PRAY.

IF I AM WRONG, IF I AM A LIAR THEN MAY HASHEM THROUGH YESHUA STRIKE ME DEAD. I AM TIRED OF BEATING AROUND THE BUSH. I AM DRIVEN TO SAY THIS. IT ISN"T LACK OF LOVE THAT I AM SAYING THIS. I WANT TO TELL ONLY THE TRUTH. WHY HAVE I BEEN CONVICTED MOST OF MY LIFE TO NOT LIE. AM I TOO HONEST?

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 03:08 AM
Why do the nations rage, and the peoples plot a vain thing? The kings of the earth take a stand, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his Messiah, saying, "Let's break their bonds apart, and cast their cords from us." He who sits in the heavens will laugh. The Lord will have them in derision. Then he will speak to them in his anger, and terrify them in his wrath: "Yet I have set my king on my holy hill of Tziyon." I will tell of the decree. The LORD said to me, "You are my son. Today I have become your father. Ask of me, and I will give the nations for your inheritance, the uttermost parts of the earth for your possession. You shall break them with a rod of iron. You shall dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel." Now therefore be wise, you kings. Be instructed, you judges of the earth. Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the son, lest he be angry, and you perish in the way, for his wrath will soon be kindled. Blessed are all those who take refuge in him.

(Psa 2:1-12 HNV)

Tishri1
23rd June 2005, 03:15 AM
I see the Wisdom of Judaism. I also see the LOVE of Christianity. Yet, Judaism is kind of COLD. And Christianity is lacking in itself. Many here can see much of this. Yet, who should we listen to MAN OR HASHEM? Yes, I understand YESHUA is to be BOWED DOWN TO. YET, I CAN'T SEE WHERE you SEE THAT HE IS HASHEM... HOW? Don't try to explain. I AM SET, YESHUA IS SUB-SERVANT TO HASHEM. HE ISN"T EQUAL on the THRONE. READ, PRAY.

IF I AM WRONG, IF I AM A LIAR THEN MAY HASHEM THROUGH YESHUA STRIKE ME DEAD. I AM TIRED OF BEATING AROUND THE BUSH. I AM DRIVEN TO SAY THIS. IT ISN"T LACK OF LOVE THAT I AM SAYING THIS. I WANT TO TELL ONLY THE TRUTH. WHY HAVE I BEEN CONVICTED MOST OF MY LIFE TO NOT LIE. AM I TOO HONEST?Do you think that this conviction of your's is a salvation issue? If you are comfortable with your convictions knowing that others may not agree then hold on to them and relax...we don't all have to agree on everything...Some will agree, some will disagree, and some will sit on the fence undecided... There's nothing wrong with that...Your still loved!:groupray:

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 03:18 AM
Seek the LORD, all you humble of the land, who have kept his ordinances. Seek righteousness. Seek humility. It may be that you will be hidden in the day of the LORD's anger.

(Zep 2:3 HNV)

I understand I need more humility and more love. Yet, when one stands by seeing many going against HaShem's Torah, what is one to do.. Say may HaShem be good to you? Yes, I understand one must pray for one who is lost in the wilderness of all these LIES taught by MAN. Yet, when one calls themself a Brother/Sister and they are in the wrong in a matter then one must correct them, NU? OF course in love. IS Yeshua going to be correcting in love those who take HaShem's Torah and SPIT UPON IT and say it is NAILED TO THE CROSS? NO, HE IS GOING TO COME WITH A ROD OF IRON TO CORRECT ALL THE LIES that are in this world.

WHO AM I? To you and many others you don't know who I am. I am therefore nothing. But HaShem is our Father and HIS Torah is what HE Gave those who are Drawn to HIM. I reckon we ought to be full of love and spit upon the TORAH. Remember Faith without WORKS IS DEAD. What are WORKS? You Tell me. I am here to listen to what the WISDOM OF MAN SAYS. Are you full of Ruach HaKodesh or some other Spirit? You Test the Spirits. Shall we have a Stand like Elijah had?
AM I NUTS OR STUPID? Or neither? OR have I finally broke something in me? Hopefully it is the FLESH THAT IS BROKE.

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 03:22 AM
Being honest. I reckon that has it's place. But some would say you should tell everything. Why? I reckon I should go hide in the closet and not say a word. Maybe I ought to hide the Truth. If I am even holding the TRUTH.

Thank you Tishri1 for your words.

Tag

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 03:27 AM
Yeshua cried out and said, "Whoever believes in me, believes not in me, but in him who sent me. He who sees me sees him who sent me. I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in me may not remain in the darkness. If anyone listens to my sayings, and doesn't believe, I don't judge him. For I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He who rejects me, and doesn't receive my sayings, has one who judges him. The word that I spoke, the same will judge him in the last day. For I spoke not from myself, but the Father who sent me, he gave me a mitzvah, what I should say, and what I should speak. I know that his mitzvah is eternal life. The things therefore which I speak, even as the Father has said to me, so I speak." (Joh 12:44-50 HNV)

A certain ruler asked him, saying, "Good Rabbi, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" Yeshua asked him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good, except one--God. (Luk 18:18-19 HNV)

Therefore he was obligated in all things to be made like his brothers, that he might become a merciful and faithful Kohen Gadol in things pertaining to God, to make atonement for the sins of the people. For in that he himself has suffered being tempted, he is able to help those who are tempted. Therefore, holy brothers, partakers of a heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and Kohen Gadol of our confession, Yeshua; who was faithful to him who appointed him, as also was Moshe in all his house. (Heb 2:17-3:2 )

"Behold, my servant whom I have chosen; my beloved in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my Spirit on him. He will proclaim justice to the nations. (Mat 12:18 HNV)

When all things have been subjected to him, then the Son will also himself be subjected to him who subjected all things to him, that God may be all in all. (1Co 15:28 ) e-Sword HNV

The Lord said, "Who then is the faithful and wise steward, whom his lord will set over his household, to give them their portion of food at the right times? Blessed is that servant whom his lord will find doing so when he comes. Truly I tell you, that he will set him over all that he has. But if that servant says in his heart, 'My lord delays his coming,' and begins to beat the menservants and the maidservants, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken, then the lord of that servant will come in a day when he isn't expecting him, and in an hour that he doesn't know, and will cut him in two, and place his portion with the unfaithful. That servant, who knew his lord's will, and didn't prepare, nor do what he wanted, will be beaten with many stripes, but he who didn't know, and did things worthy of stripes, will be beaten with few stripes. To whoever much is given, of him will much be required; and to whom much was entrusted, of him more will be asked. "I came to throw fire on the earth. I wish it were already kindled. But I have a immersion to be immersed with, and how distressed I am until it is accomplished! Do you think that I have come to give peace in the earth? I tell you, no, but rather division. For from now on, there will be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. They will be divided, father against son, and son against father; mother against daughter, and daughter against her mother; mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law, and daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law." He said to the multitudes also, "When you see a cloud rising from the west, immediately you say, 'A shower is coming,' and so it happens. When a south wind blows, you say, 'There will be a scorching heat,' and it happens. You hypocrites! You know how to interpret the appearance of the earth and the sky, but how is it that you don't interpret this time? Why don't you judge for yourselves what is right? For when you are going with your adversary before the magistrate, try diligently on the way to be released from him, lest perhaps he drag you to the judge, and the judge deliver you to the officer, and the officer throw you into prison. I tell you, you will by no means get out of there, until you have paid the very last penny. " (Luk 12:42-59 HNV)

On to Yosef.

He was Right Hand of Pharoah wasn't he? Yes he was. And being the Right Hand he had all Authority in Egypt didn't he? Yes he did.

Par`oh said to his servants, "Can we find such a one as this, a man in whom is the Spirit of God?" Par`oh said to Yosef, "Because God has shown you all of this, there is none so discreet and wise as you. You shall be over my house, and according to your word will all my people be ruled. Only in the throne I will be greater than you." Par`oh said to Yosef, "Behold, I have set you over all the land of Egypt." Par`oh took off his signet ring from his hand, and put it on Yosef's hand, and arrayed him in robes of fine linen, and put a gold chain about his neck, and he made him to ride in the second chariot which he had. They cried before him, "Bow the knee!" He set him over all the land of Egypt. Par`oh said to Yosef, "I am Par`oh, and without you shall no man lift up his hand or his foot in all the land of Egypt." Par`oh called Yosef's name Zaphenath-Paneah; and he gave him Asenat, the daughter of Potiphera Kohen of On as a wife. Yosef went out over the land of Egypt. Yosef was thirty years old when he stood before Par`oh king of Egypt. Yosef went out from the presence of Par`oh, and went throughout all the land of Egypt. In the seven plenteous years the earth brought forth abundantly. He gathered up all the food of the seven years which were in the land of Egypt, and laid up the food in the cities: the food of the field, which was round about every city, he laid up in the same. Yosef laid up grain as the sand of the sea, very much, until he stopped counting, for it was without number. To Yosef were born two sons before the year of famine came, whom Asenat, the daughter of Potiphera Kohen of On, bore to him. Yosef called the name of the firstborn Menasheh, "For," he said, "God has made me forget all my toil, and all my father's house." The name of the second, he called Efrayim: "For God has made me fruitful in the land of my affliction." The seven years of plenty, that were in the land of Egypt, came to an end. The seven years of famine began to come, just as Yosef had said. There was famine in all lands, but in all the land of Egypt there was bread. When all the land of Egypt was famished, the people cried to Par`oh for bread, and Par`oh said to all the Egyptians, "Go to Yosef. What he says to you, do." The famine was over all the surface of the earth. Yosef opened all the store houses, and sold to the Egyptians. The famine was severe in the land of Egypt. All countries came into Egypt, to Yosef, to buy grain, because the famine was severe in all the earth. (Gen 41:38-57 HNV)

from thirty years old and upward even until fifty years old, all who enter into the service, to do the work in the Tent of Meeting. (Num 4:3 HNV)

David was thirty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned forty years. (2Sa 5:4 HNV)

The Levites were numbered from thirty years old and upward: and their number by their polls, man by man, was thirty-eight thousand. (1Ch 23:3 HNV)

Yeshua himself, when he began to teach, was about thirty years old, being the son (as was supposed) of Yosef, the son of Eli, (Luk 3:23 HNV)

Why do the nations rage, and the peoples plot a vain thing? The kings of the earth take a stand, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his Messiah, saying, "Let's break their bonds apart, and cast their cords from us." He who sits in the heavens will laugh. The Lord will have them in derision. Then he will speak to them in his anger, and terrify them in his wrath: "Yet I have set my king on my holy hill of Tziyon." I will tell of the decree. The LORD said to me, "You are my son. Today I have become your father. Ask of me, and I will give the nations for your inheritance, the uttermost parts of the earth for your possession. You shall break them with a rod of iron. You shall dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel." Now therefore be wise, you kings. Be instructed, you judges of the earth. Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the son, lest he be angry, and you perish in the way, for his wrath will soon be kindled. Blessed are all those who take refuge in him. (Psa 2:1-12 HNV)

The story of Yosef to me is a story of the Ruler HaShem has put over the face of the earth, the universe, heaven above and everything else. Egypt is the everything(The world, etc.) except the THRONE. I see Yosef as the image of Yeshua to come. I see the famine as the times of trouble that have been and now are and will grow and increase as we near the time of the Thousand years reign of Yeshua on planet earth. Yes, there will be troubles for those in that Thousand years if they are DISOBEDIENT to the RULER, for He comes with An IRON ROD.

Forgive me My King if I have thought lessor of you and Forgive those who have put you higher then our Creator HaShem.

Tishri1
23rd June 2005, 03:30 AM
Tag, snap out of it (slap,slap) everything is fine! You don't need to bare the cares of the world on your shoulders...pass them over to Yeshua, that's His job. Just love the Body, and enjoy the adventure... Sure you may have a word for us now and then, but the finger that writes it on the heart is the Father's alone.:hug::hug:

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 03:32 AM
I won't be fine till this fleshy thing I am living in is brought under complete authority and filled full of Ruach HaKodesh.

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 03:33 AM
I voted GO!!! Anyone with me?

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 03:59 AM
Don't lose any sleep over me please.

Tishri1
23rd June 2005, 04:00 AM
No way! Tag I will pray the Father bless you with sweet Shalom tonight:clap:but I won't change my vote!

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 04:42 AM
Wasn't asking you to change your vote. I see I can't even change my vote.

Bon
23rd June 2005, 06:34 AM
Love, humility, honesty, obedience.

Your heart is for Yahweh, fair and square.

Sounds like all you want to do is serve Him, no matter what, no matter who you offend with your beliefs.

Stick around Tag!

Shalom to you in abundance :hug:

from Bon

visionary
23rd June 2005, 06:39 AM
Fellowship is important, we are all like rough gems thrown in a tumbler. As we are rolled around the edges get knocked off us. We need each other for that. Do not think that your rough edges are any worse than ours or that we do not need yours to smooth out ours. It works both ways. With this difficult process, we become polished. Hang in there, all of our rough edges are getting worked on. Praise the Lord and let Him continue to do a good work in you.

I have seen the Lord in your words, and know that the insights you have presented are blessings you have recieved. We are all at different levels and need work on different areas. The Lord has created this mix that is here for us. We all have been called, lead and need to see the work that God has for us here. Stay.

Bruce101
23rd June 2005, 08:18 AM
I doubt that folks see you as liar.
Liar is kind of extreme, and decietful.
What you are facing is what most of us face.
The truth is like fire in our bones, yet most folks around us think that we are a little looney. It is frustrating.
Do you just come out and lay your beliefs in the open, and risk isolation, where you will do very little good in spreading the truth, or do you just let a little out here and there to get folks thinking and asking questions. There are those that won't ask (or think for that matter) and there are a small minority that will.

Bruce

Bon
23rd June 2005, 09:00 AM
There are those that won't ask (or think for that matter) and there are a small minority that will.

Bruce

You can say that again.:)

MyLittleWonders
23rd June 2005, 11:35 AM
I would like to to stay - your words give me much to think about, study, and pray about. HaShem is refining you right now and at times that can be quite painful. Stay here and allow Him to use you to show us things and allow Him to use us to show you things. As Vis said, we are in a tumbler together, being smoothed and prepared for His return.

Shimshon
23rd June 2005, 11:43 AM
Please stay tag. I can not believe that anyone on this forum thinks you 'need to go'. Or thinks your any more 'looney' than any one of US. ;) Division is the work of the adversary. Unity is the work of the Ruach. The Sword divides down to the marrow and soul of a person, and is used as a scalple in the hands of the Master physician. But when used by the hands of the adversary it bludgens you to death with it's BLUNTness.

You are quite visibly pouring blood out of huge wounds. The Sword is not leaving nice clean unscared 'flesh' but is hammering you to death.

And leaving the only support group you have is exactly what the adversary wants.


Stay! Bevakasha!

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 12:26 PM
Thank you all for your support.

I have to laugh at the thought I just had after reading everyones posts.

This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast system...
Please post your support for one in need...
This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast system...

Yes, I am going through tests right now and it has gotten to the point of feeling lonely. Yes, even though people have PM'd me. There are other things in my life needing work on. Like pride, jealousy, boasting, temper, puffiness, etc.

Todah Rabah to all who won't let one go even though he feels like he is the worst.

And this isn't my only support, yet, I feel I can unload more here at times. Yet, that must stop adventually and I must grow in strength in our Father's Ruach HaKodesh, if HE is willing that am even worthy to be filled. And Yeshua is our King appointed by HaShem to lead us all to VICTORY in HaShem filled full of Ruach HaKodesh so that HaSatan can't even touch our very lives even though he can try and tempt us.

May each who prayed for me and even those who didn't after reading this Emergency broadcast be BLESSED BEYOND MEASURE. MAY HASHEM DO SOMETHING FOR YOU TODAY!!!

SHALOM ALEICHEM,
TAG

Ahavah
23rd June 2005, 01:45 PM
Hey Tag, I'm sorry your going through a hard time. I do feel for you. When things start looking crazy..just start looking up and place your WHOLE FOCUS on HIM. Don't worry about what other people think about you..the ONLY thing that matters is your relationship with G-d. You have poured out your heart, and I know He sees your hurt. NOTHING can comfort you, but HIS love. So, just focus on Him..and don't worry about what's going on around you. Have Shalom Today my friend. Ahavah

ShirChadash
23rd June 2005, 01:45 PM
This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast system...
Please post your support for one in need...
This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast system...

^_^:thumbsup::hug::prayer:

You are loved, Tag. You stay, Brother. :)

Tishri1
23rd June 2005, 02:05 PM
Hi Tag, how you doing today? You and I were up pretty late last night and I was so glad to see your still here...hang in there... your valuable...and loved

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 02:07 PM
Todah Rabah to all of you,

I am worrying less and less about what others think of me. I think the hardest part is going to be what I think of myself. We are our worst critique.

Shalom Aleichem,

Tag

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 02:34 PM
Hi Tag, how you doing today? You and I were up pretty late last night and I was so glad to see your still here...hang in there... your valuable...and loved

I am doing much better thank you for being there. I know others would have did the same if they were awake. But we all need to sleep now and then.

Shalom,

Tag

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 03:16 PM
Love, humility, honesty, obedience.

Your heart is for Yahweh, fair and square.

Sounds like all you want to do is serve Him, no matter what, no matter who you offend with your beliefs.

Stick around Tag!

Shalom to you in abundance :hug:

from Bon

Thank you very much for your kind words Bon, I am very grateful.

Shalom to you as well in great abundance,

Tag

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 03:20 PM
Fellowship is important, we are all like rough gems thrown in a tumbler. As we are rolled around the edges get knocked off us. We need each other for that. Do not think that your rough edges are any worse than ours or that we do not need yours to smooth out ours. It works both ways. With this difficult process, we become polished. Hang in there, all of our rough edges are getting worked on. Praise the Lord and let Him continue to do a good work in you.

I have seen the Lord in your words, and know that the insights you have presented are blessings you have recieved. We are all at different levels and need work on different areas. The Lord has created this mix that is here for us. We all have been called, lead and need to see the work that God has for us here. Stay.

Thank you for being there when I have been down. I hope my rough edges don't rub your shoulder raw or even your heart. Iron sharpens Iron. May you be polished to the point that every where you go people want to know of the ONE you Follow.
I hope and pray that I will always be here for anyone, even those who I feel disagree with or even those I disagree with.
May the arm say to the hand let us work together.

Shalom,

Tag

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 03:31 PM
I doubt that folks see you as liar.
Liar is kind of extreme, and decietful.
What you are facing is what most of us face.
The truth is like fire in our bones, yet most folks around us think that we are a little looney. It is frustrating.
Do you just come out and lay your beliefs in the open, and risk isolation, where you will do very little good in spreading the truth, or do you just let a little out here and there to get folks thinking and asking questions. There are those that won't ask (or think for that matter) and there are a small minority that will.

Bruce

I do come out and lay most of it out in the open for all to see, yes. Why should I hide what I believe? Yes, it is frustrating. I am one rough person and know it. I do want to be more loving and kind. Yet, no one here knows me personally and therefore doesn't see how kind and considerate I am. Yet, now I am boasting about myself and many look at this as self-righteousness, especially Yeshua. Yet, this place is just filled with our thoughts, not our actions, since none of us can see the others actions unless we are there in person. So I reckon we must at times include what others don't see. But at the same time we must keep our tongues from boasting too much. I even boast of how I think I am not worthy of anything. I want others to see those things in me, not because I want them to put me up on a pedastal. And I am not implying anything to anyone or even you. I am sharing my thoughts as they come to mind.

At times I've let a little out here and there. Sometimes you can't just let all come out for you might overwhelm the other person which at times after I post something I feel guilty of doing just that. And you know the worst part, pride has stopped me from apologizing many a time. I have a ways to go before I am perfected in HaShem.

Shalom and Todah Rabah my brother,

Tag

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 03:38 PM
Tag, you are struggling right now... this is clear.
I voted "stay" because I think you need to stay with your online family here in the MJ forum.
I could quote a ton of scriptures to you about your worth in Yeshua... about his grace and forgiveness and His love for you. I encourage you to go take quiet time and pray and read the Bible.
We love you and are praying for you,
Erin

I thank you for you encouraging me to stay and to read the Bible. I am learning to pray everyday in everything no matter how small I feel it is. I am reading more and more as I go. Many of my posts at times are just scripture and I'd rather let scripture speak for itself. But then again sometimes a word does help those with less understanding to understand why one quotes a certain passage. Yes, Yeshua did pay a big price for all of my sins as well as the whole world of people of all time. If it wasn't for HaShem we wouldn't have Yeshua or even be filled with Ruach HaKodesh. I am learning of the Grace He has given us, HaShem that is. For HE gave us Yeshua and is sufficent for us to Seek HaShem's Kingdom and HIS Righteousness.
Love is the best quality one can have and I am still learning more and more of it. For to me you can't know love unless love is given to you first. As a Child you are ignorant of love until your parents share this with you, which most do see this in their life, but then forget as time goes on and troubles come from the world around them. We get caught up in the world around us. Then we are brought down so we can see who really has LOVE for us.

Thank you Erin very much,

Tag

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 03:42 PM
I would like to to stay - your words give me much to think about, study, and pray about. HaShem is refining you right now and at times that can be quite painful. Stay here and allow Him to use you to show us things and allow Him to use us to show you things. As Vis said, we are in a tumbler together, being smoothed and prepared for His return.

Thank you MylittleWonders,
For you make me wonder what is in store for me tomorrow and for us all. I hope and pray that I will be an example that will not cause anyone to stumble. I yearn to be as Yeshua was while on planet earth and still is.
When we get to the point of being Broken, HE is strong enough to pull us out of it and build us up. That is why we have each other, and yet at times I forget and feel lonely. I need this to be broke completely so it isn't me, but Him who is In me that teaches, edifies, corrects, loves, helps, feeds, clothes, etc. I've been me too long without HIM.

Shalom and thank you MylittleWonders,

Tag

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 03:54 PM
Please stay tag. I can not believe that anyone on this forum thinks you 'need to go'. Or thinks your any more 'looney' than any one of US. ;) Division is the work of the adversary. Unity is the work of the Ruach. The Sword divides down to the marrow and soul of a person, and is used as a scalple in the hands of the Master physician. But when used by the hands of the adversary it bludgens you to death with it's BLUNTness.

You are quite visibly pouring blood out of huge wounds. The Sword is not leaving nice clean unscared 'flesh' but is hammering you to death.

And leaving the only support group you have is exactly what the adversary wants.


Stay! Bevakasha!
Then looney it is to those who see only looniness.
That is so true what you say, that no one here would think that of anyone.
Is division the work of the Adversary?
"I came to throw fire on the earth. I wish it were already kindled. But I have a immersion to be immersed with, and how distressed I am until it is accomplished! Do you think that I have come to give peace in the earth? I tell you, no, but rather division. For from now on, there will be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. They will be divided, father against son, and son against father; mother against daughter, and daughter against her mother; mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law, and daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law." (Luk 12:49-53 HNV)

I can't remember right off where the scripture is that HaShem punishes those HE loves.

Of course we learn what we don't know from others and by conviction of Ruach HaKodesh.

HaShem took many things from me because I wasn't walking the walk over these past five years. What a long time to linger in sin. I deserve everything HE has let happen to me.

If I am to suffer, let it be because I love HaShem and Yeshua and want to be filled fully with Ruach HaKodesh.

Thank you Shimshon for asking me to stay. I ask the same of you.

Shalom,

Tag

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 03:55 PM
^_^:thumbsup::hug::prayer:

You are loved, Tag. You stay, Brother. :)

I will Zemirah, and thank you. Sorry I don't have much to say to you right now since I have said much before hand. I do thank you for your words to me in PMs and will always be greatful.

Shalom,

Tag

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 04:00 PM
Hey Tag, I'm sorry your going through a hard time. I do feel for you. When things start looking crazy..just start looking up and place your WHOLE FOCUS on HIM. Don't worry about what other people think about you..the ONLY thing that matters is your relationship with G-d. You have poured out your heart, and I know He sees your hurt. NOTHING can comfort you, but HIS love. So, just focus on Him..and don't worry about what's going on around you. Have Shalom Today my friend. Ahavah

I see in you, that you like to bring joy into others lives and that is a wonderful gift to have.

You are right, the only thing that matters most of all is our relationship with HaShem. And if we are inline to HIM, we are inline with those around us, yet remember there are division whether we like them or not in this world. And it doesn't mean we are the cause of those divisions. Many will disagree with something, but we know that there is only ONE TRUTH and we are all searching for that. It is great to have others around me to be sound boards of what we have thoughts of, that way we can know one way or another if we are on track.
Thank you Ahavah,
And may you always have Shalom, especially today, you and yours,

Tag

Shimshon
23rd June 2005, 04:16 PM
Thank you Shimshon for asking me to stay. I ask the same of you.

Todah Tag, alot of things were hurting that day. And I knew never to say never. I knew HaShem would heal my heart as he always does. Sometimes, no many times he strips you bare. And leaves you naked. The world might see this as a very humiliating condition. But I see it as the state we were created in. All that stuff that gets stripped from us is the dross and leaven that was added over the years.

My wife desired to be here. I will not leave her alone. And I admit, I desire to be here too. STILL!! ;) :P

If we leave, who will notice that we have grown? And who will understand that it is HaShem who is forming us? If we refuse to interact with others.

By that action all we prove is we have not learned enough.

Shalom Tag,
Lehitraot!!!! :wave: :)

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 04:45 PM
Todah Tag, alot of things were hurting that day. And I knew never to say never. I knew HaShem would heal my heart as he always does. Sometimes, no many times he strips you bare. And leaves you naked. The world might see this as a very humiliating condition. But I see it as the state we were created in. All that stuff that gets stripped from us is the dross and leaven that was added over the years.

My wife desired to be here. I will not leave her alone. And I admit, I desire to be here too. STILL!! ;)

If we leave, who will notice that we have grown? And who will understand that it is HaShem who is forming us? If we refuse to interact with others.

By that action all we prove is we have not learned enough.

Shalom Tag,
Lehitraot!!!! :wave: :)
Amein Brother,
Interaction is key to growing and learning to interact is what we must do, especially this used to be introverted :eek: one here. :groupray:

Shalom Aleichem Shimshon,
Tag

chunkofcoal
23rd June 2005, 08:01 PM
I would like to to stay - your words give me much to think about, study, and pray about. HaShem is refining you right now and at times that can be quite painful. Stay here and allow Him to use you to show us things and allow Him to use us to show you things. As Vis said, we are in a tumbler together, being smoothed and prepared for His return.

I agree with MyLittleWonders and Visionary. We're all in a tumbler together.
You have to whack off a lot of sandstone and dark stuff to get to the jewels inside.

Please stay.:)

MyLittleWonders
23rd June 2005, 09:06 PM
If we leave, who will notice that we have grown? And who will understand that it is HaShem who is forming us? If we refuse to interact with others.

By that action all we prove is we have not learned enough.

Shalom Tag,
Lehitraot!!!! :wave: :)

This is so true! :thumbsup:

Shamash Of Yeshua
23rd June 2005, 09:30 PM
I agree with MyLittleWonders and Visionary. We're all in a tumbler together.
You have to whack off a lot of sandstone and dark stuff to get to the jewels inside.

Please stay.:)

I will stay.

Tumble away Father, Make me into a Holy object if it be Your Will.

Shalom,

Tag

Bon
24th June 2005, 07:20 AM
There ya go Tag! :)

You're out-voted 12 to 1.

Guess that means you have to stay huh!? :D


:hug:

Shalom from Bon

Shamash Of Yeshua
25th June 2005, 01:36 AM
Tag, sometimes I wish we would all be as willing to expose our thoughts and frustrations about ourselves the way you have. It was awesome to see everyone on this forum put aside differences and just love people through their struggles.

Shabbat Shalom Pray4Isrel,

I agree completely. Yes, there are differences here and there and many came to the help of me struggling with my walk.

Sometimes I think I am too open and should just stay silent, and yes I do that as well at times. Sometimes after something like this occurs, I feel I am being used to reach to the inner most being of others so they can reach out in Love. And I have to say TODAH RABAH TO THOSE WHO DO REACH IN LOVE.

But at the same time I feel I have put more space between me and others because of my acting out like a child. I reckon when one is at the end of their rope they feel like a child with no where to turn.

Shalom Aleichem before I ware out my welcome which I feel I did long ago...

Tag

Mikhail
25th June 2005, 04:39 AM
Shabbat Shalom Pray4Isrel,

I agree completely. Yes, there are differences here and there and many came to the help of me struggling with my walk.

Sometimes I think I am too open and should just stay silent, and yes I do that as well at times. Sometimes after something like this occurs, I feel I am being used to reach to the inner most being of others so they can reach out in Love. And I have to say TODAH RABAH TO THOSE WHO DO REACH IN LOVE.

But at the same time I feel I have put more space between me and others because of my acting out like a child. I reckon when one is at the end of their rope they feel like a child with no where to turn.

Shalom Aleichem before I ware out my welcome which I feel I did long ago...

Tag

I enjoy the banter that your questions and comments create.
Shalom Alecheim,
Mikhail'

Shamash Of Yeshua
25th June 2005, 11:31 AM
I enjoy the banter that your questions and comments create.
Shalom Alecheim,
Mikhail'

Life is but a word from within those who have something to say. Only I hope I say what is right and true and with no malice. Yet, I am a man who has feelings as all do. I hopefully learn to be silent when I need to be and open when that is called for, otherwise we sit and go no where.

Shabbat Shalom,

Tag

visionary
25th June 2005, 11:33 AM
Now that is wisdom from above..

Adammi
25th June 2005, 01:46 PM
I am wondering what everyone is thinking of my walk according to how the posts I've been posting.

I have wanted to do all I can to brind across others Truth. Yet, I feel as though most are looking at me like I am a LIAR. Well, maybe it is a boastful kind of spirit? Maybe it is a spirit of discord? Maybe it is a spirit of hate?

Tell me what you see in me?

I quit several things in my life so I can start living Right in HaShem with the Faith Yeshua lived in. He, Yeshua after all lived in Torah. And no, I dont' see Yeshua as TORAH. Yes, He lived in it. I used to think of Him as Torah, but not now.

Most of you don't know me personally at all. You don't know where I've been and probably don't know where I am going. Yet, you do have thoughts and judgements of who you think I am. I am now asking your HONEST(Humble) or even STERN Opinions.

Have you seen any improvement in me since I've been here on MJ part of CF? Or am I just what ever you can think of in the negative sense.

I am polling on whether you all want me to stay or go or you just dont' know. Closing Poll on my birthday the 27th of July.

Shalom,

Tag
I don't know you at all so hello, it is nice to meet you.

Shamash Of Yeshua
25th June 2005, 09:32 PM
I don't know you at all so hello, it is nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you as well. May you find the answers you have and the understanding HaShem wants you to have through the Faith Yeshua showed and be given the power from Ruach HaKodesh for your obediance to Truth which can only be found in HaShem through Yeshua.

Shabbat Shalom,

Tag