Should a Christian take another Christian to court?

[Droobie]

Should a Christian take another Christian to court?  How far does one 'turn the other cheek'?

[Jenna]

Hmmm.....I put that I wasn't sure. I guess it would depend on the circumstances. Here in the U.S., people are so 'sue happy' that it makes me sick. Folks want to sue over everything. On the other hand, alot of people feel that it is their only form of recourse, since alot of people who call themselves Christians do not act like such. If a person was living a Christ-like life, then they would take care of people and not give them cause to sue. A Christian shouldn't do things like leave a business job unfinished or perform poorly to save extra money to line his pockets. It would really leave me to wonder who is and who isn't a Christian if we are put in circumstances where we would have to seriously consider this question in our lives.

:)

[2002 Christian]

"Sue happiness" makes me sick, too, Jenna.

[Autumn]

This should be taken care of by the church. Christians...if they are true Christians should not take one another to a secular Court. Paul made this very clear.

1 Corinthians 6

1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? 2Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life? 4If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge? 5I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you, not even one, who will be able to judge between his brethren? 6But brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers!
7Now therefore, it is already an utter failure for you that you go to law against one another. Why do you not rather accept wrong? Why do you not rather let yourselves be cheated? 8No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and you do these things to your brethren! 9Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[1] nor sodomites, 10nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

[mld3three]

I agree with Autumn. If Christians go to court against each other then they are submitting to secular standards. Instead they should be held to the higher standard of the church.

[ThienAn]

This is not about turning the other cheek. It's about solving our differences through the love of Christ & a common belief.

[Darwin RULEZ]

If someone wrongs you, and they refuse to recompence you for the damage they have done, then I believe it is your right and in your own best interest to take them to court. Religion should not be a factor when it comes down to your well being.

[Superman53142]

I agree with Autumn. In fact, I was just reading 1 Corinthians last night; looking for the verse about how you shouldn't be a drunkard for a friend.

[Religious Crisis]

I think that it all depeneds on what it is about. But for more serious things I say yes, the bible says an eye for and eye and a tooth for a tooth.

[sr. scholls]

"'Vengeance is mine', sayeth the Lord." So if someone wrongs you, you shouldn't take matters into your own hands. I think that really ties with the "turn the other cheek" thing. I also read those verses in 1 Corinthians, and I completely agree with Autumn on that one.

[DeleseRose]

If u can't work it out in the church then take it to the court.

[spirituality]

Originally posted by Jenna
Hmmm.....I put that I wasn't sure. I guess it would depend on the circumstances. Here in the U.S., people are so 'sue happy' that it makes me sick. Folks want to sue over everything. On the other hand, alot of people feel that it is their only form of recourse, since alot of people who call themselves Christians do not act like such. If a person was living a Christ-like life, then they would take care of people and not give them cause to sue. A Christian shouldn't do things like leave a business job unfinished or perform poorly to save extra money to line his pockets. It would really leave me to wonder who is and who isn't a Christian if we are put in circumstances where we would have to seriously consider this question in our lives.

:)

I couldn't have said it better myself Jenna!  I voted yes because, just because someone caims to be christian doesnt mean anything.  Like you said, If they really were true christians their would be no cause to take them to court.

God Bless!

[jko]

Originally posted by Autumn
This should be taken care of by the church. Christians...if they are true Christians should not take one another to a secular Court. Paul made this very clear.

1 Corinthians 6

1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? 2Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life? 4If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge? 5I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you, not even one, who will be able to judge between his brethren? 6But brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers!
7Now therefore, it is already an utter failure for you that you go to law against one another. Why do you not rather accept wrong? Why do you not rather let yourselves be cheated? 8No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and you do these things to your brethren! 9Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[1] nor sodomites, 10nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

I wasnt so sure... but now, I am.... thanks for the verse(s)!

[seekingHim]

I agree with Autumn.

[Mid]

I think, absolutely yes. Under certain circumstances. Dont do it for the hell of it obviously. For example, what if a christian did something like, rape your daughter or son. Steal your car. Punch you in the face. Rip you off severely. WOuld you say then......... oh, the bible says that we should not bring them to court? Or would you want them to learn a lesson? Get back some of what you lost. Think about that.

[shout2thelord]

I agree it depends what it is but u should try and work it out and not get into any silly disputes in court!

[DeleseRose]

Well we must abide wih the law of this land as long as it does not go against GO'Ds moral laws. Personally i feel if it's a petty matter and it can b resolved at church, since iknow of no place where christian can meet for litigation outside of the court room, then do that but for the things that r of a crimnal matter then let the law that were set up for our benefits, handle it. U do the crime then u must face the time. We all face the consequences for our actions, y should that b any different? because were christians? well then better yet. We knew better. If a christian don't know it's by choice. And i'm not being harsh, this goes for me as well. Think about it.

[bop1997]

I say pray about it before you do anything and ask GOD for an answer. Talk with your pastor or other Christians(ones that are living right), for assistance as well. I put not for sure, because I think there are some cases that you might have to go to court on.

[Rhonda75]

At the present moment I am in the process of taking a Christian friend to court. Sometimes turning the other cheek is not enough. She entered my house after I asked her to wait until I got home to retrieve her belongings. Not only did she not wait, but she waited around the corner to watch me leave for work and then entered my house through a front window. I was absouloutly hurt, and angry that she did that, because it wasn't the first time she had did this to someone. Not only did she violate my home, she made it very clear to other people how to get into my house. I live on the first floor and I have a 5 year old son. Now I keep my windows shut and locked. I live in a terrible neighborhood to boot, one that she knew better than I did. Then after doing so, she leaves me a messege telling me that she was sorry but she had to do it. I forgave her, but I still let the man made laws that God says we should honor take over. I let the DA pick up the charges.

[Rhonda75]

oh and one more thing, I believe that you are responsible for your actions, just look at the woman who killed and was killed by the state. She became a Christian but that did not exclude her from her actions.

[Konnie]

No. For one thing, the basis for going to court is revenge, which should not be a Christian's motive. For another thing, lawsuits between Christians make the church look bad, causing unbelievers to focus on it's problems rather than its purpose

[Snowy]

I don't know

[dbaryl]

I don't know.I think, absolutely yes. Under certain circumstances. Dont do it for the hell of it obviously. For example, what if a christian did something like, rape your daughter or son. Steal your car. Punch you in the face. Rip you off severely. WOuld you say then......... oh, the bible says that we should not bring them to court? Or would you want them to learn a lesson? Get back some of what you lost. Think about that.In this case, you can't call the person a Christian if they don't live like one. I think then there is no issue and you can ack like you would with an unbeliever (feel free to use the justice system, since that's what it's there for anyway).

What about a case where the reason to sue is not a sin - theft, rape, etc. Instead, it's the everyday things - like a car accident. If a fellow believer refuses to pay for the damages they made to your care, should you take them to court? Naturally, you'd want to work this out between yourselves first, but you wold to that with an unbeliever as well anyway. :scratch:

I really don't know, especially after that passage... :confused: [1 Corinthians 6]

[mesue]

I think if you tried to settle things as in Matthew 18 and still get nowhere then you should take the other to court.

[RyanJoseph]

isn't court about justice? if someone did something wrong, sure you gotta do justice yeah. of course you shouldn't be going around trying to find fault and taking everyone to court, best is to try n solve things first.

i'm kinda young so tell me if this is a wrong point of view, thanks.

[James Sez]

Define Christian.

[mesue]

Define Christian.Little Christ

[James Sez]

Little Christ
:confused:

[mesue]

:confused:
The word Christian means Little Christ

[wow]

:wave:

[The_Saint]

"Anyone who sues somebody is cut off." Words spoken to me by the Lord God. He also added that it is okay if someone sues on your behalf. And it is also okay if you file a counter suit. And lastly, it is okay to sue an insurance company because they want to pay out as little as possible. Other than that, you risk going to Hell when you sue somebody!

[yajyu]

"Anyone who sues somebody is cut off." Words spoken to me by the Lord God. He also added that it is okay if someone sues on your behalf. And it is also okay if you file a counter suit. And lastly, it is okay to sue an insurance company because they want to pay out as little as possible. Other than that, you risk going to Hell when you sue somebody!
Are you serious?

[The_Saint]

Yes, I had an actual conversation with The Lord God Almighty! And He actually told me these things. The conversation took place in an obscure town in Louisiana in front of two witnesses. Not only that, we discussed various other subjects. After all, I am a Saint of The Most High God, Jesus, and The Holy Ghost.

[wow]

:wave:

[chrisforshort]

What did the Lord's voice sound like?

[chrisforshort]

What does God look like?

[The_Saint]

What did the Lord's voice sound like?

God did not speak out loud. Instead He put His words directly into my mind. There were two other men in the room and God did the same to them. God has the capability to do this.

What does God look like?

God did not show Himself. Nobody sees the Face of God and lives. It says so in the Old Testament.
:priest:

[Kathy]

It is your right, to take someone to court if there is reason enough to do so. Christian or not.

[Mister Ale]

A Christian shouldn't take anyone to court, Christian or not. I'm far from being a Bible expert, but wouldn't 'turn the other cheek' apply to anyone, Christian or not?

And, a bit of topic, if you are taken to court how should you testify? Should you fight the persecutor(s)? The Bible does say if another sues you just give them what they want.

[mistertee49]

I think if both parties are Christians, both parties need to try to settle it without going to court. But........sometimes it can't be settle other wise. It has to be taken care of in the court system.

[wow]

:wave:

[MAC]

Yes you can, if you don’t look at the matter closely because he is telling you or you know he a Christian justice is not rightly divided. There should not be respect of person.

Think for a minute if God was the one you where having the problem, He would not have respect of person with you for He will be dealing righteously.

Yes of course we as a child of God most have the love for our neighbor. Standing in what is right does not mean you are against but that the name of Christ may be glorified.

[The_Saint]

I think if both parties are Christians, both parties need to try to settle it without going to court. But........sometimes it can't be settle other wise. It has to be taken care of in the court system.There have been times in my life that I wanted to sue for breach of contract; the Law of God prevented me from doing so, so I lost out on some money. Remember: Jesus says that our rewards are in Heaven -- not on earth.
:pray:
Also remember: "Vengence is mine saith The Lord of Hosts!" So, if it is really necessary, let God avenge you. All you have to do is pray about it. Now, I've done this and companies have gone out of business. So you see, the system works!!!!
:prayer:

[Warandpeace]

I agree with some of you. You shouldn't take a true christian to court you should take to the church and work it out that way. But if the Christian that are being brought before the church dont to work it out and agree with the church then they are probably not a true Christian.

[wow]

:wave:

[Faithful_Bri]

I put Yes, because being a Christian doesn't mean you do things wrong. If someone needs to go to court, no matter who they are, they should be taken.

[Robbie]

YES - one would be biased if they take religion into concideration before taking court action

[godsmessenger]

The final judgement will put all matters to rest.

[Lizquests]

I believe that you can take another Christian to court. I don't mean if it is someone that is sue happy. If it was something that was justified by man made laws, which God said to respect and to follow as well as His laws, then I believe that sueing someone is justified.

I think that it just depends on what it is. There are just so many levels to the justice system and suing others.

[JC_FREAK]

not sure
depends what it is i suppose

[II Paradox II]

I don't think so. I does happen but I don't think it is good when it does...

ken

[Heaven_Bound]

I do think nobody should have to go to court,however, under some circumstances I believe you do have to go to court. In my case I am a single father who wants to be in his daughters life and I was getting to get to see my daughter 30 minutes a week under close supervision. I hold a good job and I am not a criminal so I think this atmoshere was very unhealthy for both me and my daughter. I tried to work things out several times before I filed. Wrong. Maybe. Lets just say both me and my daughter are very happy.

[Rechtgläubig]

I can't vote because it is going to depend on the circumstances and whether or not they tried to settle the matter out of court.

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[DMX]

Scripturally one shouldn't, and Paul's argument in discouraging the practice makes a lot of sense. It however assumes that one is dealing with reasonable and responsible believers, and that is not always the case. In some situations, legal recourse may be warranted when all else fails.

[daydreamergurl15]

[QUOTE=Robbie]YES - one would be biased if they take religion into concideration before taking court action[/QUOTE

Christianity is not a religion we Christians know that it is a lifestyle and we try our hardest to abide by the laws of God, if God said to go to the church b/c of anothers actions then that is what we do not b/c we are being bias but b/c we are following his laws. Sorry if the world laws come in second but nothing compares to the word of God.

[Jesus-is-the-best]

I would not think so...unless, they were like REAL mean and never nice. And had done something REALLY bad. Maybe... But our family does not think so...;)

[BigToe2]

If someone does something illegal they should be taken to court regardless of their religion. God put the government in place and therefore we should follow it's laws. This includes being law abiding citizens and going to court for things that should go to court. There are reasons legal repurcussions exist.

[jeshohaia]

It isnt biblical to sue a brother or sister in Christ. There are routes you can take that would remove them from fellowship in their church. Stuff like that.

[bgeek]

These are a few NT references on the subject :
Matthew 5:30 - 41
1 Corinthians 6:1-11
Based on these, it does not appear that christians should sue one another.

[bgeek]

I do think nobody should have to go to court,however, under some circumstances I believe you do have to go to court. In my case I am a single father who wants to be in his daughters life and I was getting to get to see my daughter 30 minutes a week under close supervision. I hold a good job and I am not a criminal so I think this atmoshere was very unhealthy for both me and my daughter. I tried to work things out several times before I filed. Wrong. Maybe. Lets just say both me and my daughter are very happy.
I do not think you did anything wrong. You tried to work it out without involving the courts. I do not think the scripture forbids it but simply recommends doing exactly what you did.

[Archivist]

Every effort should be made to avoid litigation but if justice demands it then by all means go to court.

[wrtbooks]

Hmmm.....I put that I wasn't sure. I guess it would depend on the circumstances. Here in the U.S., people are so 'sue happy' that it makes me sick. Folks want to sue over everything. On the other hand, alot of people feel that it is their only form of recourse, since alot of people who call themselves Christians do not act like such. If a person was living a Christ-like life, then they would take care of people and not give them cause to sue. A Christian shouldn't do things like leave a business job unfinished or perform poorly to save extra money to line his pockets. It would really leave me to wonder who is and who isn't a Christian if we are put in circumstances where we would have to seriously consider this question in our lives.

:)I guess so

[TheMainException]

You should first seek God. If the other person is not acting like a Christian should be, say he stole something and isn't giving it back. Of course you should take him to court.

[PaladinGirl]

Yes, depending on the circumstances. However, it is always best to try and resolve things with each other. However, what if you can't do that?

[TomUK]

I've not read all of the posts in this thread, but the options in the poll are faaaaaaar too limiting.

[rua2j33]

I would hope that it would not come to this. Sadly, with some people, it's the first thing that pops in their head. Just think, Honey. The new boat we've always wanted. And all we have to do is act like we're hurt! UUUGGGHHH!!!

[CZzyzx41]

I believe people should be upheld to the law and therefore I will take someone to court if they commit a crime regardless of what they believe. Now I won't get violent or if someone insults me I'll not stoop to their level but will turn the other cheek. However I don't think people should be allowed to get away with committing crimes just in the guise of "turn the other cheek".

[signwonder]

Paul stood up for his beliefs and rights before he accepted his sentence of imprisonment and exile. He stood up against unchristian governments but today our rights are being questioned like Paul's were--especially our christian rights. When it is your time to stand up for the truth, even if another brother or sister gets in the way, you have to still stand up. We should first strive to make peace but there are times that we as Christians have to stand up. I am sure that Judge Moore of Alabama is standing up against some in the State Legislature and Supreme Court that call themselves christian. For him, he feels called to stand up and take on this issue anyway. Only God can know if this for sure is a battle that Judge Moore is called to engage himself in. If it is, he must stand up. Personally I don't know of many people who could better represent christian rights in this 10 commandment issue than a man like Judge Moore. Many of us would not stand up but the true church will continue to stand even when our laws forbid it and even if persecution comes at us to the point of blood.

[Faith In God]

Paul tells Christians to settle disputes among ourselves.

[Moros]

If both parties are Christian, then they should be able to work it out amongst themselves, or better yet, not have an altercation to begin with. However, if the lawsuit concerns the state (IE Criminal) then they should go to court.

[Neal]

We're not above the law, as I think some people early on were implying. If we need something resolved, and it's not the church's responsibility, then I do think we have the duty to see justice dealt fairly by the courts. Of course... our courts are not always fair, and that's an unfortunate thing.

[Love&Pain]

Deuteronomy 1
9At the time I told you, "I can't do this, can't carry you all by myself. 10GOD, your God, has multiplied your numbers. :D Why, look at you--you rival the stars in the sky! 11And may GOD, the God--of-Your-Fathers, keep it up and multiply you another thousand times, bless you just as he promised. 12But how can I carry, all by myself, your troubles and burdens and quarrels? 13So select some wise, understanding, and seasoned men from your tribes, and I will commission them as your leaders."
14You answered me, "Good! A good solution." :clap:
15So I went ahead and took the top men of your tribes, wise and seasoned, and made them your leaders--leaders of thousands, of hundreds, of fifties, and of tens, officials adequate for each of your tribes.
16At the same time I gave orders to your judges: "Listen carefully to complaints and accusations between your fellow Israelites. :thumbsup: Judge fairly between each person and his fellow or foreigner. 17Don't play favorites; treat the little and the big alike; listen carefully to each. Don't be impressed by big names. This is God's judgment you're dealing with. Hard cases you can bring to me; I'll deal with them." :amen:

[FreeGrace]

I cannot understand why christians could or would take each other to court and at the same time profess commitment to our Lord, makes no sense at all.

[Faith In God]

We're not above the law, as I think some people early on were implying. If we need something resolved, and it's not the church's responsibility, then I do think we have the duty to see justice dealt fairly by the courts. Of course... our courts are not always fair, and that's an unfortunate thing.
We are not above (civil) law, but it is not Christian to press charges. If both parties are Christian, Paul tells us to settle it among ourselves.

[k]

When Jesus said to turn the other cheek it was not meant to say we do not stand up for ourselves. On the contrary, one was to turn the other cheek to say, "So what? There is nothing you can do to me that God has not already allowed." It was meant to embarrass the attacker.

Voted 'not sure' because if I were in a situation of dire need, and after much prayer and conviction, was led to take the person to court I would. Bush claims to be a Christian, but he represents exactly what scriptures says the Anti-Christ will be.

Bottom line is that if two people are truly Christ-seekers then the Holy Spirit will lead them to a mutually satisfying resolution, which would mean no involvement of a secular court. Of course, not all Christians are Christ seekers, and a peaceful court resolution would be more pleasing to God versus an out of court somebody-got-banged-up type of settlement.

Peace

[k]

I cannot understand why christians could or would take each other to court and at the same time profess commitment to our Lord, makes no sense at all.
Perfectly put!!:amen: :thumbsup:

[Faith In God]

I believe we should assume that both parties of Christians are Christian indeed for the sake of discussion. If you are Christian, then be one; you can't force someone else to be.

[Neal]

To butxifxnot:

We are not above (civil) law, but it is not Christian to press charges. If both parties are Christian, Paul tells us to settle it among ourselves.

But what if two people settling it amongst themselves choose to have courts make the judgment? Can that not happen?

[Faith In God]

To butxifxnot:

We are not above (civil) law, but it is not Christian to press charges. If both parties are Christian, Paul tells us to settle it among ourselves.

But what if two people settling it amongst themselves choose to have courts make the judgment? Can that not happen?
sure, though not entirely biblical (read what Paul has to say about this. it's there). They could just drop it. That would be easier; to forgive is divine.

[2Timothy2]

This should be taken care of by the church. Christians...if they are true Christians should not take one another to a secular Court. Paul made this very clear.

1 Corinthians 6

1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? 2Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life? 4If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge? 5I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you, not even one, who will be able to judge between his brethren? 6But brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers!
7Now therefore, it is already an utter failure for you that you go to law against one another. Why do you not rather accept wrong? Why do you not rather let yourselves be cheated? 8No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and you do these things to your brethren! 9Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[1] nor sodomites, 10nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
:amen: "An eye for an eye" was explained by Christ in the Sermon on the mount in Matt 5:38-42. We go to court against each other out of pride andfor no other reason. This is not what the Bible, which is supposed to be our authority, teaches us to do. To echo Paul, why do we not accept the wrong? If the other person will not abide by the church's decision in the matter, leave it for God to deal with. Do we not believe there will be reward in Heaven for those who obey? No, unfortunately we do not. We must have our rights under man's laws. Our pride must be satisfied. As Paul said, I say this to our shame.

[AdJesumPerMariam]

I put 'no' , can money really replace what has been lost?

[Hisbygrace]

I voted no on this one, but the question is not as simple as it seems. I don't believe that Christians should sue each other. But, at the same time God has directed us that if we do harm to another or their property we are to make recompense to them. His desire is that we do this with a willing and pure heart. But, how many Christians are willing to do this? Being a Christian does not give us the freedom to cause harm and not face a consequence for that action. But, as a Christian you should want only to have replaced what was lost and not three or four times its value.

[Faith In God]

I voted no on this one, but the question is not as simple as it seems. I don't believe that Christians should sue each other. But, at the same time God has directed us that if we do harm to another or their property we are to make recompense to them. His desire is that we do this with a willing and pure heart. But, how many Christians are willing to do this? Being a Christian does not give us the freedom to cause harm and not face a consequence for that action. But, as a Christian you should want only to have replaced what was lost and not three or four times its value.
When something is stolen, we are not to even want our stolen goods back at all. :|

[k]

When something is stolen, we are not to even want our stolen goods back at all. :|
Can testify to that statement.:amen: My bike was stolen from the train station and it was a strange reaction for me. I walked out of the terminal heading towards my bike, and when I saw it was gone I didn't even break stride but kept walking home like nothing happened. It was purely God's Grace filling me at the time cause there was a clear leading to pray for the person(s) responsible. I was so grateful for my peaceful reaction I even started to smile...strange considering what happened.

Could be wrong, but it seems there are times to be lions and times to be lambs. This is one of the reasons why it is utterly important to live listening for the guiding voice of the Holy Spirit.

Peace

[Faith In God]

Can testify to that statement.:amen: My bike was stolen from the train station and it was a strange reaction for me. I walked out of the terminal heading towards my bike, and when I saw it was gone I didn't even break stride but kept walking home like nothing happened. It was purely God's Grace filling me at the time cause there was a clear leading to pray for the person(s) responsible. I was so grateful for my peaceful reaction I even started to smile...strange considering what happened.

Could be wrong, but it seems there are times to be lions and times to be lambs. This is one of the reasons why it is utterly important to live listening for the guiding voice of the Holy Spirit.

Peace
:thumbsup: nice anecdote. that's cool of you.

[Saint2be27]

Yes, I think so...should the situation merit. Even though we are Christian...we still make mistakes and sometimes need law to intervene.

[Adanvdo Waya]

Yes, if they did something wrong.

[Evie]

Should a Christian take another Christian to court?  How far does one 'turn the other cheek'?
this is another hard question that could go either way.
Let me explain: several years ago my oldest child was over playing at our neighbors house when their dog viciously bite him in several areas on his face. I had to take him to the emergency room,where our hospital had to have a plastic surgeon flown in because of it being on his face. As time went by,he had to have 2 more reconstructive facial surgeries done. In the meantime while going through this aweful trauma,the neighbors insurance writes us a letter staing that he would be 100% covered. Then they call later,maybe 3-4 later after that and state that it will not be covered. So,what to do? We prayed and prayed. I mean come on! it was thousand and thousands of dollars for this. So,we took the insurance company to court and won. My son won a very nice sum amount so that while he is growing and while his skin on his face is stretching he can have more surgury done if he chooses to when he is an adult. I actually don't believe in taking another Christian to court but,what to do for your child?

[Faith In God]

this is another hard question that could go either way.
Let me explain: several years ago my oldest child was over playing at our neighbors house when their dog viciously bite him in several areas on his face. I had to take him to the emergency room,where our hospital had to have a plastic surgeon flown in because of it being on his face. As time went by,he had to have 2 more reconstructive facial surgeries done. In the meantime while going through this aweful trauma,the neighbors insurance writes us a letter staing that he would be 100% covered. Then they call later,maybe 3-4 later after that and state that it will not be covered. So,what to do? We prayed and prayed. I mean come on! it was thousand and thousands of dollars for this. So,we took the insurance company to court and won. My son won a very nice sum amount so that while he is growing and while his skin on his face is stretching he can have more surgury done if he chooses to when he is an adult. I actually don't believe in taking another Christian to court but,what to do for your child?
...the insurance company wasn't being Christian, but we aren't to expect anything back from those who wrong us. I'm glad it worked out, though. :)

[eaglex]

A Christian should take another Christian to court only as a last resort. If the other Christian won't listen to a brother then the Christian who as be offended per se. doesn't any other course but to go the legal route.

[kleptobismol]

as christians, we shouldnt do things that would require taking to court, but if it comes to that then yeah

[ralrachaan]

I did not answer your poll because I think it depends on the situation.
If it cannot be solved outside of court, and it has been taken to a pastor or other church authority, I think that it shoudl be taken to court and settled and not be dragged on. Dragging it on will only create more strife between these christians. But if the problem hasn't even been talked over between the christians, they should talk it over calmly before doing anything rash like taking it to court.

[Evie]

...the insurance company wasn't being Christian, but we aren't to expect anything back from those who wrong us. I'm glad it worked out, though. :)
so what was I suppose to do,let my 8 yr. old go through life with a mangled face from the neighbors dog?

[Faith In God]

so what was I suppose to do,let my 8 yr. old go through life with a mangled face from the neighbors dog?
First let me say that your neighbor should have done paid for the expences and more besides for the trouble (if they were Christian, which is the point).

I don't know what to tell you other than what Scripture says :|

[The-Doctor]

courts would be very quiet if we didnt!

[ClaireZ]

No, Christians should try to resolve the matter between them. If they can not do it themselves, they should try to get a mediator, like a pastor to help.

[Heartbreaker]

agreed.

[Warren Peace]

Salvation Army officers are forbidden from taking legal action. Even my wife's cousin, who suffers effects from botched-up surgery and could get a lot of compensation, was not allowed to even send a lawyer's letter to the doctor's office.

Remember, being a Christian is about forgiveness... lawsuits are very unforgiving.

Blessings...

[Philled-one]

I said not sure because there are so many different possible motives for taking someone to court. I know of two friends who were in an accident. The one who was injured sued the other because this was the only way the insurance company would pay. This was an injury that affected his working ability. They remained good friends. There would not have been a lawsuit if the insurance company had honoured their obligation. Also, decsion made by a church body are not recognized by the courts.

[Fonzy]

yes if they did something bad or did not pay for a loan

[Faith In God]

I said not sure because there are so many different possible motives for taking someone to court. I know of two friends who were in an accident. The one who was injured sued the other because this was the only way the insurance company would pay. This was an injury that affected his working ability. They remained good friends. There would not have been a lawsuit if the insurance company had honoured their obligation. Also, decsion made by a church body are not recognized by the courts.
Ah. :thumbsup: Good point! I would've said no initially in all cases, but you're brought up something interesting.

[Warren Peace]

yes if they did something bad or did not pay for a loan
Doing something "bad" covers a lot of possibilities... but forgiveness should be in order if the person who received the "bad" is truly a follower of Christ.

Loans are against the scripture as well, so Christians who loan should not sue for recovery of funds. To me that's replacing one sin with another.

Happy New Year!!!!

[tqpix]

I think, absolutely yes. Under certain circumstances. Dont do it for the hell of it obviously. For example, what if a christian did something like, rape your daughter or son. Steal your car. Punch you in the face. Rip you off severely. WOuld you say then......... oh, the bible says that we should not bring them to court? Or would you want them to learn a lesson? Get back some of what you lost. Think about that.Three of the four things you mentioned are criminal offenses. In the Bible, it's talking about lawsuits, which involve civil offenses. Big difference.

[BubblesRelena]

If someone has violated the law, christian or not christian, and they should be taken to court, I don't think they should be allowed special privliges for being a christian. The law is the law, if it's againts the government or another person (christian or not)...if you violated it, you should be prosecuted. Simple as that.

~BubblesRelena

[Warren Peace]

If someone has violated the law, christian or not christian, and they should be taken to court, I don't think they should be allowed special privliges for being a christian. The law is the law, if it's againts the government or another person (christian or not)...if you violated it, you should be prosecuted. Simple as that. There is a difference between being prosecuted for a crime and being sued for a wrongdoing. I agree, if a person commits a crime, then they should be charged under the law regardless of their religious belief.

However, this forum is titled "Should a Christian take another Christian to court?" That means, if you do wrong against me (not criminal, but civil), should I sue you? The answer to that (in my opinion) is 'no'.

As Christians, we need to show what forgiveness truly means. Whether the person who has done wrong against you is Christian or otherwise, you must do as Christ would do, and that does not include litigation. We must learn to turn the other cheek and forgive.

But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. (Matthew 5:39)

If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. (Luke 6:29)

:amen:

Remember, a responsible Christian is one that does not allow people to take advantage of him/her. However, if you do allow someone to take advantage of you, then you should not take legal action... you must forgive and learn from the experience.

Blessings...

P.S. Christ was Jewish, but He likely would not have been a lawyer in this day and age... He was much better at healing, so He would likely be a good Jewish doctor ;)

[Richard]

I put not sure, but ya I think you should if something bad was done

[holyroller2005]

i say it depends on the situation.

[SparkleDazzle]

If they did something I geuss. I don't get the whole court thing.

If you act like that a Catholic or Atheist can tell you they are a Christian cause you won't take them to court for the thing they did.

You cannot be sure if even your family members are Christians. It's between them and God. If my friend said she is saved I am still going to missionary to her and tell her about the word of God. You can't tell anyones salvation from the mouth.





Should a Christian take another Christian to court?  How far does one 'turn the other cheek'?

[EnlightenedWitness]

As the Bible says, take it to the person - take it to them again with another Christian by your side - then take it to the Church - but NEVER take it to the court! If someone who claims to be a Christian can not forgive you (or the situation) and do what is right, then he or she is not truly a Christian and you should not be associated with them - you certainly shouldn't give them the energy of suing them and bringing them to court; this energy should be saved for praising the Lord and doing his work.

Loss of money is a tough thing to take - so is loss of "respect" among someone you once called a friend. But it should distract from the most important thing of all - the purpose of our lives - to praise and honor the Lord and be about His work.

:amen:

[MariaGlitter]

I like the EnlightenedWitness post. It's good.

[faller_g]

but if a chrisitan is gonna take a non-christian to court, what is the difference to a christian? Anyway i think no one should have to go to court, we should be able to sort out our differences by ourselves!

[Warren Peace]

but if a chrisitan is gonna take a non-christian to court, what is the difference to a christian? Anyway i think no one should have to go to court, we should be able to sort out our differences by ourselves!

I don't think it matters who the action is against, whether the defedant is Christian or not shouldn't matter. I don't think that Christians should take anyone to court... except maybe crooked businesses, but that's a different point altogether.

Blessings...

[k]

Doing something "bad" covers a lot of possibilities... but forgiveness should be in order if the person who received the "bad" is truly a follower of Christ.

Loans are against the scripture as well, so Christians who loan should not sue for recovery of funds. To me that's replacing one sin with another.

Happy New Year!!!!

Is it loans that are against scripture or interest charged on loans?

[sweetlambofgod]

if they have to

[Warren Peace]

Is it loans that are against scripture or interest charged on loans?

Charging interest is a sin:

"If you lend money to one of my people among you who is needy, do not be like a moneylender; charge him no interest." (Exodus 22:25)

I thought that lending was a sin too ("neither borrow nor lender be"), but I'm starting to think that was Shakespeare and not Biblical. I'll get back to you on that one...

[jbgordon]

If there is reason to take a fellow christian to court, I see no reason not too.

[k]

Charging interest is a sin:

"If you lend money to one of my people among you who is needy, do not be like a moneylender; charge him no interest." (Exodus 22:25)

I thought that lending was a sin too ("neither borrow nor lender be"), but I'm starting to think that was Shakespeare and not Biblical. I'll get back to you on that one...

Thank you for that source and info.:) Sometimes I am absolutely amazed at the social economic awareness of civilizations from soooooo long ago. They understood (through God of course) how important it was to not charge interest. A cursory glance at modern culture today reveals the horrific results of ignoring a warning from thousands of years ago.

[die2live]

If both parties are Christians, they should be able to work it out. If they truly cannot come to an agreement by themselves, they should be humble enough to let it go or work out a compromise.

[pcwilkins]

I don't think any Christian should get so hung up about what goes on in this life to go the effort of taking someone to court. Suppose someone does libel a Christian, should they really be that worried about what others think about them?

Pete

[Truth Be Told]

If two Christians cannot agree and it comes to court time, then yes, I think that would be ok. Reason being that everyone has disagreements that you can resolve, be it christian, or whoever. Thats what God gave the judges the mind to learn what they needed to in order to be judges. There is a time and a place for everything and it has nothing to do with religion.

[Faith In God]

If both parties are Christians, they should be able to work it out. If they truly cannot come to an agreement by themselves, they should be humble enough to let it go or work out a compromise.
Yeah.

[rachewil15]

I have no idea! But really i think it depends on the severity of the situation.

[InRemembranceofHim]

I think that it all depeneds on what it is about. But for more serious things I say yes, the bible says an eye for and eye and a tooth for a tooth.

Quoting Moses "law" from the Old Testament which Christ specifically disagreed with in the New Testament, seems more important to address than a lawsuit to me. However, it stands to reason that if indeed both parties involved were truly Christian, the need for secular court proceedings would never arise, no? Maybe most people have no clue what the word Christian actually means.

[Raheelah]

i ticked not sure because it depends on the situation - if it is a serious matter for example a Christian electrician wires your house very badly resulting in you being electrocuted than yes but for trivial matters such as the main church door slamming in your face lightly and jumping on the compensation bandwagon then that to me is a no no :) ;) :D :cool: :P :wave: :thumbsup: :amen: :clap: :hug: :preach: :prayer: :groupray: :bow: :angel:

[Mister_mag00]

Of course they should thats what courts are for(its better than taking the axe to each other to solve are differences)

[Warren Peace]

...if it is a serious matter for example a Christian electrician wires your house very badly resulting in you being electrocuted than yes...
If the electrician is truly a Christian, then he/she and the home owner should be able to work it out without the need of a lawsuit.

[Lithium Hobo]

Religion has no place in law. So yes, if another Christian does you legally wrong, you have sensible reason, then you should take him/her to court. Do not let your faith blind you from justice. Justice is blind, not you.

[symphonyb]

christianity vs the law? someone wrongs me and causes serious injury or harm is where the line gets drawn. yes,i'd take someone into court.would you?:confused:

[Godjunkie]

It depends on the reason for taking them to court- if it is to help them in some way to experience discipline and get rid of a sin issue, then yes. If it is so you can personally obtain money or pride, then you're acting as a selfish fool. Also, if the court happened to rule that I should be awarded money from them, I would give every cent of it to a charity.

[Faith In God]

christianity vs the law? someone wrongs me and causes serious injury or harm is where the line gets drawn. yes,i'd take someone into court.would you?:confused:
If a Christian has a grievance against another Christian, why do they go to wicked for a judge? Paul instructs us to settle matters between brothers. And if you're a Christian and even a non-Believer wrongs you, Jesus teaches not to ask for stolen goods back or to resist an evil person. God will not forsake you for following His teachings.
However, regarding Paul's statement, in some cases, the only way to get some insurance deals to even listen to you is to take it up legally, so...
But then you still have the Scripture to deal with...
As the Orthodox say at the end of every post: forgive me...

[ysl_75]

Should a Christian take another Christian to court?  How far does one 'turn the other cheek'?
well its depend on the person whether he/she want to bring that person to court, depend on what the person has done.

[mamabear4]

It depends on the reason for taking them to court- if it is to help them in some way to experience discipline and get rid of a sin issue, then yes. If it is so you can personally obtain money or pride, then you're acting as a selfish fool. Also, if the court happened to rule that I should be awarded money from them, I would give every cent of it to a charity.


I voted "no" in this poll, but I can certianly understand Godjunkie's point of view. Christians are just as prone to sin and behave wrongly as non-Christians and the courts are there for checking such behavior. Litagation has been so taken advantage of as a means toward quick riches but if it's used properly, as a tool for correction, I think it can be done in a Christlike manner. However, the Scriptures do speak against taking another brother to court and we don't want to disregard that.

[Organist]

I voted 'no' ... suing a brother in Christ is a wrong. Suing PERIOD is wrong. :(

[AvgJoe]

It would depend on the circumstances. I'm no a member of the AOG, but the following link has a very good article that deals with this subject. http://www.ag.org/top/beliefs/christian_character/charctr_14_law_suits_.cfm

[tqpix]

I voted 'no' ... suing a brother in Christ is a wrong. Suing PERIOD is wrong. :(I agree. Well said. :clap:

If we have to settle something, follow what Paul said and let the least esteemed in the church judge over the affair.

[Warren Peace]

I voted 'no' ... suing a brother in Christ is a wrong. Suing PERIOD is wrong. :(

:amen:

[Mal2]

sueing someone over the most trivial of matters has become an american tradition, so whay should the christains not participate?

[baseballplaya]

I don't really know if a christian should take another christian to court, I suppose you should in some ways tak'em to court if they done something bad, but they're your brother/sister.... I'm really not sure about that one



please reply, baseballplaya;)

[runner_for_jc]

A christian should not have to be taken to court but if, they have done wrong enough to go to court...then take them....
Jordan Gibson*24

[Bledsoe2]

Not really sure?


Bledsoe2
Please reply

[ScottishJohn]

I think that there are very clear teachings in the bible which cover this subject. Some have already been mentioned several times.

First - how to treat a Christian who sins against you: Matthew 18:15

Second - how many times to forgive your brother: Matthew 18:21

Third - why Christians do not take each other to court: 1 Corinthians 6. This one in particular is extremely clear and unambiguous. (Thanks to Autumn for raising it!)

So we: go to the person who sinned against us and explain our grievance - if they do not repent, we go again with two brothers, if they still do not repent we go to the Church. If s/he still refuses to listen - s/he is not a Christian and we must evangelise them.

If we are sinned against our primary duty is to forgive, as many times as it takes. After all, we have been forgiven - this is the purpose of the parable of the Unmerciful servant - we owe so much to God that it is extremely petty to sue our brother and sisters for earthly goods.

If all of our entreaties fail then we forget about court and allow ourselves to be cheated and wronged - for it is better to be wronged and cheated.

One thing that becomes obvious again and again is that the Church in the 21st century has a very different attitude to money and goods than the Church in the first century. How do we justify this? God blesses us with prosperity but to those who have been given much, much will be expected. (Luke 12:48)

Matthew 6-7
Luke 16:10

Over everything there is a fact that comes back again and again - We have wronged God, every day when we sin we wrong God, and he forgives us again and again - he could sue us and demand his right, send us to hell, but he forgives, and so should we.

[Warren Peace]

Hello ScottishJohn,

That was very thoughtful and well written!

Blessings...

[Kira Yamato]

Yes and no. Don't take people Civil court. It's ok to take people to court for other charges(murder, theft, etc.)

[Faith In God]

Yes and no. Don't take people Civil court. It's ok to take people to court for other charges(murder, theft, etc.)
If a "christian" murders a someone, are they a Christian? That is the topic. The thread is starting to shift to "Should a Christian take anyone to court?", which Christ already answered.

[ScottishJohn]

If a "christian" murders a someone, are they a Christian? That is the topic. The thread is starting to shift to "Should a Christian take anyone to court?", which Christ already answered.

The thread is called "Should a Christian take another Christian to Court."

As far as I know, all criminal cases are tried by the state. If you murder you are prosecuted by the state. So the subject in hand therefore is more likely to be civil cases and petty disagreements.

[Warren Peace]

The thread is called "Should a Christian take another Christian to Court."

As far as I know, all criminal cases are tried by the state. If you murder you are prosecuted by the state. So the subject in hand therefore is more likely to be civil cases and petty disagreements.
Yes and no. You can take someone to court for "wrongful death" which is a civil case. Case in point: Nicole Brown Simpson's family suing O.J. Simpson. It wasn't a criminal trial, it was a civil trial.

True, only a murder charge can be brought to justice by a prosecutor, but the family of the deceased can sue the accused (whether found guilty or not of the murder), and as in the O.J. case, he lost the civil suit even though he was found "not guilty" in the criminal case.

I hope Johnny Cochrane is happy wherever he is... he helped a guilty man walk because of a side issue that had nothing to do with the murder case.

Blessings...

[Jatopian]

Well, there is legal justice and vigilante justice, because one is endlessly taken advantage of otherwise. Personally, I would sue someone instead of stealing their money, killing them, etc.

[paulnoel]

I think that it all depeneds on what it is about. But for more serious things I say yes, the bible says an eye for and eye and a tooth for a tooth.

W.W.J.D

[Warren Peace]

W.W.J.D
Hehe... good answer!!!

[Faith In God]

Quote:
Originally Posted by: Religious Crisis
"I think that it all depeneds on what it is about. But for more serious things I say yes, the bible says an eye for and eye and a tooth for a tooth. "

At a glance. First of all, let's look at what eye for eye means.

Eye for eye was an ancient, summed up method for justice in a civil court-like setting. Some people think that it was meant to justify revenge, but in fact, it is a means to limit how mad you could be at someone. If someone steals something from you, justice says that that person is to give it back or pay in full what it was worth. But then God goes further and places a penalty for doing wrong. There is no room for vengeance there. Vengeance is the Lord's.

Also, back to the quote. This is a prime example (though not all-encompassing) of taking the bible out of context. I will judge the statement, not the stater (as I don't know who it is) as being ill-versed in biblical truths. Here is the complete verse, context and all:
Matthew 5:38-40

How about applying this verse to those who like to take people to court, hm?

[baller_4_jc]

Not sure help anyone?

[Petrarch]

I think that legal action should always be a last recourse, but I really do not believe that the religious convictions of the parties are important. That is why I voted in favour.

[reformedfan]

God doesn't seem too impressed with this idea

[Warren Peace]

God doesn't seem too impressed with this ideaWell, to be honest, God created the court system with Moses as the first judge. Whether the intent was to use the courts for every petty claim is one thing. I personally think God would rather see people work things out themselves, and the bigger disputes should go to the courts.

Just my opinion...

[pentecostalgirl0414]

This should be taken care of by the church. Christians...if they are true Christians should not take one another to a secular Court. Paul made this very clear.

1 Corinthians 6

1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? 2Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life? 4If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge? 5I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you, not even one, who will be able to judge between his brethren? 6But brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers!
7Now therefore, it is already an utter failure for you that you go to law against one another. Why do you not rather accept wrong? Why do you not rather let yourselves be cheated? 8No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and you do these things to your brethren! 9Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[1] nor sodomites, 10nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
I agree with this!

[kissybug27]

Well here is my two pennies on the subject? I put yes because I felt like it was asking if it was a sin to take another christian to court. I don't think so. In this day and time alot of people call themselves christians and are not. We do not know who isn't and who is we can only trust what people tell us. A lot of people use God to get what they want. I like to call this fronting God. I believe that if someone does something to me like say ....hits my car while talking on their cell phone or just not paying attention to the road...... I would take them to court if need be to make sure they pay for their mistake regardless of whether they said they are christian or not. I believe that is ok to sue someone as long as you are only taken what your deserve and nothing more. I dont believe in this whole thing about ....oh he hurt my feelings and I was depressed for two weeks give me 1.6 million dollars. Thats just silly. But in the case of a wreck payment for the car and to buy a new car would do just fine. It's just enough to cause punishment and in most cases not enough to ruin a finanical life. This is just how I feel and heaven forbid I ever have to take someone to court. God Bless and have a great day! †††

[GodFlute2]

If need be yes, though it would be best to avoid that if at all possable.

[cygnusx1]

yes ................. he may need a lift ;)

[Kathryn13]

I put no becuase the Bible says not to...however, if they have done something illegal, then yes, I feel it's my responsibility to make sure they face the law.

[crusader4peace]

i think yes. but at first, an attempt should be made to solve the problem outside the court. if that doesn't work out, then its better to go to court to get justice.

[firestar]

I think it's acceptable if you've tried to work it out and it is important enough...ie: custody if a spouse is a harm to the child, not for something petty like money.

[rapsinger4]

They should only if the other christian has done something bad like breaking and entering or breaking the law,lying to a boss or something like that.

[Into_the_light]

True Christians wouldn't have to take eachother to court. They would solve their differences. But with ppl that are "pretend Christians" it's the opposite.

[Lynn73]

Should a Christian take another Christian to court?  How far does one 'turn the other cheek'?

What does nbsp stand for?

[pumanator]

If the other is a true beleiver then the elders of the church or as the bible says to find one that is Godly and can see over such matters, that we are not to go before the worlds courts and give God a black eye with our inability to let God prevail in a situation or to "let" ourselves be wrong, that God is keeping score.

[Amy47]

I dunno

[dearme]

it depends on the situation. life and death matter.Should a Christian take another Christian to court?  How far does one 'turn the other cheek'?

[Hackett]

Should a Christian take another Christian to court?  How far does one 'turn the other cheek'?

I believe it is crucial to the body of Christ that Christians settle issues among themselves with all fairness and truth. Of course I realize that is not always going to be possible...but that is the way it should be.:sigh:

[Lake]

Yes.Title a person a Christian and what does it really mean??? Killers have been Christians.Gee,it's not concrete here.I'll sue someone regardless of their religion if need be.

[Sabertooth]

For civil disputes:

Ideally, no, they should bring it to the Church per 1Cor. 6:1-6. This can be done if both parties are from the same church or, possibly, if the two churches agree to deal with the issue jointly. If they won't or can't join in this matter, their only recourse will probably be to go to secular court.

For criminal cases:

I would say, yes, press charges. I believe Romans 13 would apply, because the Church does not have the authority to carry out the necessary punishment in these cases. Even if the Christian victim forgives the Christian "criminal" [as well (s)he should], the criminal still owes a debt to society. An exception would be if the criminal could make an acceptable restitution for his/her misdeeds. I say this not because the victim should demand it back, but because it is a tangible way to demonstrate one's repentance [think Zacchaeus].

[pumanator]

Lake, I can call my self a car and run on to the expressway but does it make me a REAL car...extreme example but think about it, only God knows who the real believere are but we can inspect the fruit and if someone is living a life that shows no evidence of a changed heart then you have to draw a conclusion from that. If the person has a reputation of living the life then they should submit themselfs to the authority of the church leadership in the matter. The Bible also give you another ave and that is 1 you go to them and try to resolve, then 2 go with 2 or more witness', 3 it suppost to go before the body for resolution...unfortunately the body of Christ usually doesn't have the guts to follow through with this biblical mandate and we find ourselves in court giving non=believers the opportunity to blasphem Gods name:doh:

[DarthDigger]

For civil disputes:

Ideally, no, they should bring it to the Church per 1Cor. 6:1-6. This can be done if both parties are from the same church or, possibly, if the two churches agree to deal with the issue jointly. If they won't or can't join in this matter, their only recourse will probably be to go to secular court.

For criminal cases:

I would say, yes, press charges. I believe Romans 13 would apply, because the Church does not have the authority to carry out the necessary punishment in these cases. Even if the Christian victim forgives the Christian "criminal" [as well (s)he should], the criminal still owes a debt to society. An exception would be if the criminal could make an acceptable restitution for his/her misdeeds. I say this not because the victim should demand it back, but because it is a tangible way to demonstrate one's repentance [think Zacchaeus].

Thanks for writing this stuff - saves me having to do it!

I agree!

[handmaiden97]

If they are true christians, they should not take one another to court. however if they are tru christians they should not need to take one another to court as they will want to repent and make things right

[Gukkor]

The answer depends on the exact situation. The real question is whether a Christian should ever HAVE to take another Christian to court, and the answer to that is an absolute "no." For this poll, though, I put "not sure."

[Followers4christ]

Christian brothers and sisters should never bring a fellow brother or sister to court.God bless



1 Corinthians 6:1-8 "If any of you has a dispute with another, dare he take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the saints? Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! Therefore, if you have disputes about such matters, appoint as judges even men of little account in the church! I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers? But instead, one brother goes to law against another—and this in front of unbelievers! The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated? Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers.":preach:

[heatherq17]

Depends on what its for

[If Not For Grace]

You should not have too, but if your "christian" brother will not do what he should it is a perfectly allowable remedy. Or if it is a matter to be decided, (who get's what) that's ok too. See Moses or King Solomon and Judges..Would that we did not need the government, the military or the police....but we do.

[Belinda]

so you people saying "no" are saying that if someone raped or murdered you you wouldnt want them to go to court and go to jail?

[cygnusx1]

This should be taken care of by the church. Christians...if they are true Christians should not take one another to a secular Court. Paul made this very clear.

1 Corinthians 6

1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? 2Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life? 4If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge? 5I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you, not even one, who will be able to judge between his brethren? 6But brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers!
7Now therefore, it is already an utter failure for you that you go to law against one another. Why do you not rather accept wrong? Why do you not rather let yourselves be cheated? 8No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and you do these things to your brethren! 9Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[1] nor sodomites, 10nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

:D :thumbsup:

[Sabertooth]

The emphasis of that scripture seems to be CIVIL trials. For CRIMINAL cases, we have Romans 13:4 which says, "[A legitimate authority] is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer."

[Pogue]

If you're going to take somebody to court, you shouldn't not do it just because they are a Christian. Justice should apply to everyone.

[FluffyBadger]

I have never thought about it,not sure

[lyonguard]

You were supposed to turn the other cheek when you were persecuted for the gospel. Eye for an eye was for court cases.

As far as taking another Christian to court, the Bible says not to, but it happens all the time - not that that makes it ok.

[plum]

sorry to burst someone's bubble, but just because someone says they're a Christian doesn't mean they follow the law or deserve special treatment. If someone breaks the law, they should answer for it. If someone wants to sue a brother in Messiah, i'd wonder what the motivation is. Honestly, we should be able to resolve our differences outside of court, but if that isn't possible, perhaps court could work...

i don't know of any place in the bible where it tells us not to take each other to court... when G-d Himself set up the Judges and court for His people Israel.. obviously justice to Him means involving other people at times....

eh, anyways... we should not sin against our brothers or sisters... so if we have, we need to make it right with them. maybe if everyone would do that we wouldn't have these court cases eh

[BrileyAnne]

My neighbor claims to be a christian. I don't know her heart or relationship with Christ so I can't not judge her. I know what she has done to me and my bestfriend. I have been harassed by her and her family for 11 months now. I think turning the cheek to my sister in Christ has went far beyond the turning of the other cheek. If it comes to it I would take her to court on charges of harassment. Just cause someone claims to be something doesn't always me they are. Taking someone to court over something you know you deserve is not a bad thing. Taking someone to court over something that you do not deserve or asking for more then you deserve is a bad thing. When your life is threatened even by someone claiming to be a christian the court is suppose to be there to protected you. God helps those who help themselves. Like medication, the court of law was put here for a reason. But thats just my opinion!!!!!! :P

[Scruff512]

Hmmm.....I put that I wasn't sure. I guess it would depend on the circumstances. Here in the U.S., people are so 'sue happy' that it makes me sick. Folks want to sue over everything. On the other hand, alot of people feel that it is their only form of recourse, since alot of people who call themselves Christians do not act like such. If a person was living a Christ-like life, then they would take care of people and not give them cause to sue. A Christian shouldn't do things like leave a business job unfinished or perform poorly to save extra money to line his pockets. It would really leave me to wonder who is and who isn't a Christian if we are put in circumstances where we would have to seriously consider this question in our lives.

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Very well said. I agree 100%:thumbsup:

[boysrlikestars]

you know this is hard. i think that things happen for a reason and that you should do anything you can to make life simple but it depends on the crime i guess

[SheepingBeauty]

Should a Christian take another Christian to court?  How far does one 'turn the other cheek'?
If Christians, who believe that Jesus is Christ, the Son of God, actually listened to what he had to say :idea:(see Matthew, Mark AND Luke, at LEAST), no Christian would take ANY one to court, even those who are not Christians... come to think of it, ESPECIALLY not those who aren't Christians, because what we're supposed to work on the MOST is loving those who persecute us; our enemies; thieves, those who take advantage of, use and abuse us. We'd never take anyone to court if we lived our lives the way Jesus told us to.

Beauty

[Godslilgurlalways]

I went between yes and not sure I think it shouldn't have too come to that but if the money was really needed and as a last resort.

[LindyLouWho]

I have had to and people label themselves Christian but do bad things,my answer is yes.

[mohawk]

If all other alternatives fail...yes.

[Kathryn13]

Maybe when they need to be held accountable when other means haven't been successful.

[jerek]

Thats a tough one. I'm not sure

[PixieSunbelle]

yes.... if it was needed.
even those who call themselves Christians can be really wrong and do bad things.
even christians need to be accountable for their actions

[foztee]

I think that it all depeneds on what it is about. But for more serious things I say yes, the bible says an eye for and eye and a tooth for a tooth.

Very true.

I said Yes, But i don't think on those terms.

[Kazamataz]

it does talk about not sueing your fellow brothers or sisters in the bible. however im not sure wether its right or wrong. i think it depends on the situation

[krys4ever]

Yes, if it is within good reason.

[Kirkhaven]

No, the Lord doesn't want that.

[jsimms615]

Should a Christian take another Christian to court?  How far does one 'turn the other cheek'?
I think 1 Corinthians is clear that we should not take other believers to court. However, some call themselves believers, but really don't practice their faith at all or very little. They are not true believers.

[Lisa0315]

I say yes.

The reason is that in this day and age, many people profess to be Christians but aren't. If someone has been harmed by another brother or sister and that brother/sister doesn't make things right on their own, then, one doesn't really have a choice.

Take my husband. He was crushed between a tractor trailer and a van. The owner, a professing Christian, did not have workers comp insurance. He was awful to us. We had no choice but to take him to court and everything worked out exactly as it should have. We received nothing outrageous. We only received what we should have if he had obeyed the law to begin with.

I am not saying sue another Christian frivolously, but right is right and wrong is wrong.

Lisa

[gal4God]

not relle

[Raydar]

Should a Christian take another Christian to court?  How far does one 'turn the other cheek'?
That has nothing to do with turning the other cheek. If you can't settle out of court then go to the judge.