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MariaRegina
12th June 2005, 01:53 PM
Can anyone verify this ---


This is "The Miracle in Syria"
>
> Compiled by Archimandrite Nektarios Serfes, Boise, Idaho USA
>
> In December 2004 a Saudi Arabian man, a Moslem, appeared before
> several new agencies to relate the following incredible event he
> experienced and which changed his life (this story appeared on TV, the
> Internet, radio, and was circulated in newspapers, magazines, and
> pamphlets throughout Saudi Arbia, Syria, Palestine, and evidently in all
> neighboring countries.
>
> Some years ago, this man married a very rich Moslem woman but
> sterile. As the years passed, and despite all their efforts and
> significant medical expenses with many doctors, they remained childless.
> The man's parents suggested to him that he marry a second woman, while
> upholding his initial marriage (as the local laws permits up to four
> concurrent marriages).
>
> Being exhausted, worried, and downhearted, he did not accept his
> parents' advice but rather chose to vacation with his wife in Syria.
> There, they hired a limousine with a driver who would serve as tour guide
> fro all their site-seeing excursions throughout Syria. As the vacation
> progressed, the driver noticed that the Saudi Arabian couple was
> experiencing bitterness, pain, and grief. Having gained familiarity with
> the couple, the driver cautiously asked them whey they appeared to be so
> unhappy-was it perhaps because he was not conducting the tour to their
> satisfaction?
>
> The couple confided to the driver that the source of their
> unhappiness was their inability to have children. The driver who was also
> a Moslem, then told them that in Syria the Christians, specifically the
> Orthodox Christians, have a monastery named Panagia Saidraya (Arabic word
> meaning Our Lady) and that many people who can't have children take
> refuge to Her miracle-producing icon. They go to the monastery and there
> they are given to eat, the wick form the lamp which burns before the
> miraculous icon. And then the "Mary" of the Christians gives them
> according to their faith, what they wish for.
>
> Becoming excited, the Saudi Arabian and his wife asked the driver to
> take them to the monastery "Saidnaya" of "The Lady of the Christians" and
> said that if we have a child, then I will come back and I will give you
> $20,000.00 US and, I will give the monastery $80,000 US. So they went to
> the monastery and did as they were instructed. Later they returned to
> their homeland and after some time the wife was found pregnant. In a few
> months she gave birth to a charming baby boy. It was truly a miracle of
> Our Lady Theotokos.
>
> Now, as soon as his wife gave birth the Saudi Arabian man wanted to
> return to Syria to uphold the promises he had made. Upon his return he
> called the same driver and asked to be picked up at the Damascus airport.
> But the driver was cunning and wicked and he persuaded two of his friends
> to go to the airport with him to pick up the rich Saudi Arabian man and
> to take his money and kill him. So they picked up the rich man at the
> airport and he, as they drove, without realizing that they had planned to
> kill him, told the friends of the driver that he would give them also
> $10,000 US each.
>
> These men still not satisfied, deviated from the route to the
> monastery and went to a deserted place and proceeded to slay the Saudi
> Arabian man and to cut off his head and other parts (hands and legs) of
> his body into pieces. Blinded by passion and overcome by the horrific act
> that they just committed, they put the man's remains in the trunk of the
> car rather than just leaving him there. After taking his money, watch,
> and all that he had, they proceeded to find another deserted place to
> discard the remains.
>
> Then on the National highway, their car broke down and stopped in the
> middle of that road. The three men got out to determine why the engine
> had stalled. Then a passerby stopped to help them but they, afraid that
> their terrible act would be discovered, pretended that they did not need
> any help. But as the passerby motorist was leaving, he noticed blood
> dripping from the rear of the vehicle and he called the police to
> investigate because the scene and the three men looked suspicious. The
> police came and they saw the blood under the car and on the pavement so
> they ordered that the trunk be opened.
>
> Well, when the opened the trunk, lo and behold, the Saudi Arabian man
> lifted himself out, obviously and amazingly alive and in good health,
> saying to them "Just now this PANAGIA finished stitching my neck, right
> here (showing them the area of his Adam's Apple), after first stitching
> up the rest of my entire body". Seeing this, the three criminals
> immediately lost their minds-becoming like mad. The police handcuffed
> them and as they were being taken away to an asylum for the insane, the
> criminals started raving that it could not be possible that the Saudi
> Arabian man whom they killed, beheaded, and dissected could yet be alive.
>
> The Saudi Arabian went to a medical facility to undergo examination
> by doctors and medical examiners who confirmed and attested that the
> stitching was done very recently, thereby validating the miraculous
> event. The stitches were, and still are, obvious. When the Saudi Arabian
> came out of the car's trunk, he had the appearance, literally, of just
> having been refabricated (put back together) to which he continuously
> confessed that they PANAGIA had rejoined his body and resurrected him
> with the help of her Son.
>
> Immediately after this, the Saudi Arabian called his relatives to
> come to Syria and they all went together to the monastery of Panagia
> Saidnaya and offered up prayers, praises, and glorification, and instead
> of the initial gift of $80,000 US (which was promised), he gave $800,000
> US to the Theotokos.
>
> Today, as this man relates the details of that overwhelming miracle,
> he starts his narration with "When I was a Moslem this happened to me"
> this indicating he is not longer a Moslem, as neither is his family.
>
> This miracle stunned with awesome surprise the entire Arabic/Moslem
> nation and all of the Middle East.
>
> "LIVES LORD OUR GOD, THE LORD OF HOSTS"
>
> (Brotherhood of the Holy Sepulcher, Patriarchate of
> Jerusalem)
>
> By Father Ignatios, Abbot
>
> Holy Monastery of The Shepherds
>
> Bt Ahur-Bethlehem
>
> GREAT LENT, MARCH 2005
>
>
> Submitted and compiled by Very Rev. Archimandrite Nektarios Serfes
>
> Boise, Idaho
>
> USA
>
> Eve of the Ascension of Lord, 8 June 2005
>
> Glory to God for all things!
>
> Most holy Mother of God, save us!
>
> Peace to your souls!
>
> Humbly In Our Lord God,
> +Archimandrite Nektarios Serfes
> Who prays for you!

MariaRegina
12th June 2005, 02:09 PM
Here is Father's website - couldn't find the above story on it.

http://www.serfes.org/

Orthosdoxa
12th June 2005, 03:40 PM
Don't know about the story, but wanted to say that Father Nektarios is a heck of an interesting guy. We've attended his parish before. :)

sin_vladimirov
12th June 2005, 04:30 PM
WOW factor... I am telling you...:bow::clap:

moses916
12th June 2005, 06:43 PM
oh wow, yes, my mom told me this story about a few weeks back, i never took it seriously, but i'm shocked, she told me what happened and how the man was alive after he was put in the trunk! :eek: (she found out from the arabian community from back home [lebanon/syria/kuwait] one of those three cant remember exactly)! i dunno if this is a 100% verification, it could have been another story, i just asked my mom and she really can't remember so i'll have to re-post and i'll be able to answer if this really happened back home! :)

tizziale
13th June 2005, 01:01 AM
I had an Orthodox friend relate this to me on PalTalk the other night - she mentioned that a friend of hers is a Palestinian Orthodox, whose mother was raised at the monastery in question. He confirmed the story to her. Now - this is all hearsay, etc., but I found in interesting nonetheless.

rusty

Xpycoctomos
13th June 2005, 01:26 AM
http://www3.christianforums.com/images/customavatars/avatar106248_1.gif

Nice avatar... what's the story?

I still like the other one of the painting even better. Did you make it?

Marjorie
13th June 2005, 03:48 AM
Whether or not the story is true, ahhh, how I love the Panagia!!! :cry:

In IC XC,
Marjorie

prodromos
13th June 2005, 05:35 AM
For those who understand Greek, the following is the radio interview of Father Ignatius, abbot of the Monastery of the Shepherds in Bethlehem where he gave an account of the miracle. Aria's post is a translation of the transcript.
http://www.pigizois.gr/thaumata/thauma_tis_iperagias_theotokou.mp3
The transcript in Greek is at the following link:
http://www.pigizois.gr/thaumata/thauma_stin_siria.htm

John.

danial
13th June 2005, 06:08 AM
possible..I've heard about this one
our lady of Saydnaya has a history full of miracles!

Seraphima
13th June 2005, 07:49 AM
All i can say is Wow!

Mother of God, pray for us!!

OrthodoxyUSA
13th June 2005, 09:50 AM
I had heard part of this story... but had not heard the last part...

Perhaps we can find out who the Arab is and get his testamony.... he obviously feels like sharing it.

Forgive me...

ExOrienteLux
13th June 2005, 10:08 AM
I heard of this last week on OC.net. It shocked me for sure. There really is nobody like our Mother, is there?

-Philip.

OrthodoxyUSA
13th June 2005, 10:11 AM
Even when you need stiches! :clap:

Forgive me...

Cary.Melvin
13th June 2005, 11:09 AM
Is this for real?

Has this been confirmed?

Xpycoctomos
13th June 2005, 02:37 PM
Is this for real?

Has this been confirmed?

That's what we're trying to figure out... I think this is something that will never be confirmed for us. i COULD certainly happen and I have no doubt that bizarre things like this HAVE happened... but this could very well be a fabricated story that became popular because people wanted to believe it. If it's in a FWD, then it MUST be true! lol

CopticGirl
13th June 2005, 06:59 PM
I've heard/read this story before but some of the details were a little different. Like instead of showing them the stiches, they were about to open the trunk and he said, "hold on I'm still being stiched up" or something along those lines.

God Bless,
Elizabeth

MORTANIUS
13th June 2005, 10:06 PM
Is this story true?

Xpycoctomos
13th June 2005, 10:10 PM
Is this story true?

That's what we're trying to figure out. Could be. Maybe not. Probably never know.

Xpycoctomos
13th June 2005, 10:10 PM
Happy birthday by the way :hug:

MORTANIUS
13th June 2005, 10:15 PM
Thank you John. Tomorow is my Birthday and I have to work :cry:

On the other hand, I'm going to make sure everyone says happy birthday to me, Or else :mad: LOL

OrthodoxyUSA
13th June 2005, 10:32 PM
Thank you John. Tomorow is my Birthday and I have to work :cry:

On the other hand, I'm going to make sure everyone says happy birthday to me, Or else :mad: LOL

In that case... Happy Birthday! LOL^_^

Forgive me...:liturgy:

Dust and Ashes
14th June 2005, 07:06 AM
Thank you John. Tomorow is my Birthday and I have to work :cry:

On the other hand, I'm going to make sure everyone says happy birthday to me, Or else :mad: LOL

Happy birthday!

RedneckAnglican
14th June 2005, 07:18 AM
I just read the story this morning on another board (TCCL)...that is incredible...why couldn't it be true?...nothing on snopes.com about it...

Rilian
14th June 2005, 07:51 AM
I think this is the monastery in question - Saidnaya (http://www.saidnaya.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=2). In describing the monastery today it says that:

Christians and Muslims from the region and from far away places seek The holy Lady of Saidnaya (Chaghoura) shrine for healing. Numerous miraculous healing stories have been reported and some of these stories are documented in writing by those who experienced it in the entrance of the holy shrine in the convent.

I will ask some people from church this weekend who may know about it. Our sub-deacon was in Syria visiting family not too long ago.

I also recall reading in From the Holy Mountain that there was a monastery in Syria or Turkey where both Christians and Muslims would go to seek miracles from the Theotokos. In particular it was sought out by Muslims who were having trouble conceiving, and they would return with offerings of thanks to Panagia after having children.

sin_vladimirov
14th June 2005, 09:35 AM
I just read the story this morning on another board (TCCL)...that is incredible...why couldn't it be true?...nothing on snopes.com about it...

Do you consider it to be IDOL WORSHIP?

RedneckAnglican
14th June 2005, 10:44 AM
If it is true...I consider it an act of GOD...Icons are tools of faith...and tools of the faithful...this is my opinion...I have no validation for it...

BTW a question...what is "Panagia"?...

ExOrienteLux
14th June 2005, 10:49 AM
"Panagia" is Greek for "All-Holy". It's a title of the Theotokos.

sin_vladimirov
14th June 2005, 10:49 AM
Panagia , gr. All-Holy, one of the names of Mary ("title"), also the chain that Episkopes of the Orthodox Church wear, the mark of the Office is called Panagia (it has an Icon of the Theotokos and Baby Christ on it).



LOL so fast, not fast enough.

OrthodoxyUSA
14th June 2005, 10:50 AM
If it is true...I consider it an act of GOD...Icons are tools of faith...and tools of the faithful...this is my opinion...I have no validation for it...

BTW a question...what is "Panagia"?...

One of the Orthodox names used to address the Mother of God. In Orthodox, the term Panagia denotes an icon depicting the Virgin Mary with the Christ Child.

Forgive me....:liturgy:

edit to add: I came in third?:eek:

RedneckAnglican
14th June 2005, 10:59 AM
man ya'll are quick on the draw!...thank you for the explaination...I had a very good friend who was a Russian Orthodox Priest...he passed on a few years ago so I didn't really get much of a chance to learn the terminology...

Mary of Bethany
14th June 2005, 01:30 PM
Redneck,

do you mind telling me what part of Texas you're in?

I'm in the D/FW area. :wave:

Mary