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e=mv^2
25th May 2005, 10:21 AM
There is a view of the fundamentalist position that regards it as intolerant. I would like to discuss this and would like other fundamentalists thoughts and feelings as well.

In my opinion the word tolerance (or intolerance) is used way too often. Many times it is used when a person feels threatened in any way - even if imagined. If someone is an irresponsible land developer and is harming the nearby streams and killing fish should we tolerate it? What should we be intolerant of?

I would like to list off a few things that I am tolerant of and a few things that I can and can't tolerate. Feel free to do the same. Please do not get into a debate over someone's specifics or it will ruin the purpose of this thread.

I am tolerant of:
People of all races.
People of all economic backgrounds.
Animals right to live ( Proverbs 12:10 (http://bible.cc/proverbs/12-10.htm) ).
Eating animals.
Being vegan.
Wearing leather.
Wearing fur.
The belief that wearing fur is mean.
The belief that wearing fur keeps you warm.
Someone cutting me off in traffic (hard one sometimes).
Slow people.
Free will up to the point that it causes harm.

I am intolerant of:
Preachers that sell anything in church. (John 2:16 (http://bible.cc/john/2-16.htm))
Preachers that live in open sin. (http://www.bethstroud.info/)
Bad doctrine. (http://www.watchtower.org/ http://scriptures.lds.org/bm/contents)
The idea that there is more than one way into heaven (John 14:6 (http://bible.cc/john/14-6.htm)).
Poison in my drinking water or food.
An attempt to harm someone that I have the ability to protect.
Abortion. ( Jeremiah 1:5 (http://bible.cc/jeremiah/1-5.htm) )
Cruelty (Proverbs 12:10 (http://bible.cc/proverbs/12-10.htm))
Lactose ( hey... thats me)

Being intolerant of murder is not a bad thing.
Being intolerant of poison is not a bad thing.

Being intolerant of x race is a bad thing.

Tolerating that which should not be tolerated is not good.
Being intolerant of that which should not be tolerated is not bad.

Thoughts?

TwinCrier
25th May 2005, 10:36 AM
I agree with you. Tolerance is currently a buzz word, like hate, that is used to try to shut down any opposition. It's equivilant to saying "shut-up" or "whatever" because it doesn't address anything specific, but is meant to stop the opposing argument.

twistedsketch
25th May 2005, 02:58 PM
Many people are tolerant of anything but Christianity or absolute truth. In fact, they hate us with a passion. That shows how "tolerant" they are.

Waiting for the Verdict
25th May 2005, 07:45 PM
There is a view of the fundamentalist position that regards it as intolerant. I would like to discuss this and would like other fundamentalists thoughts and feelings as well.

In my opinion the word tolerance (or intolerance) is used way too often. Many times it is used when a person feels threatened in any way - even if imagined. If someone is an irresponsible land developer and is harming the nearby streams and killing fish should we tolerate it? What should we be intolerant of?

I would like to list off a few things that I am tolerant of and a few things that I can and can't tolerate. Feel free to do the same. Please do not get into a debate over someone's specifics or it will ruin the purpose of this thread.

I am tolerant of:
People of all races.
People of all economic backgrounds.
Animals right to live ( Proverbs 12:10 (http://bible.cc/proverbs/12-10.htm) ).
Eating animals.
Being vegan.
Wearing leather.
Wearing fur.
The belief that wearing fur is mean.
The belief that wearing fur keeps you warm.
Someone cutting me off in traffic (hard one sometimes).
Slow people.
Free will up to the point that it causes harm.

I am intolerant of:
Preachers that sell anything in church. (John 2:16 (http://bible.cc/john/2-16.htm))
Preachers that live in open sin. (http://www.bethstroud.info/)
Bad doctrine. (http://www.watchtower.org/ http://scriptures.lds.org/bm/contents)
The idea that there is more than one way into heaven (John 14:6 (http://bible.cc/john/14-6.htm)).
Poison in my drinking water or food.
An attempt to harm someone that I have the ability to protect.
Abortion. ( Jeremiah 1:5 (http://bible.cc/jeremiah/1-5.htm) )
Cruelty (Proverbs 12:10 (http://bible.cc/proverbs/12-10.htm))
Lactose ( hey... thats me)

Being intolerant of murder is not a bad thing.
Being intolerant of poison is not a bad thing.

Being intolerant of x race is a bad thing.

Tolerating that which should not be tolerated is not good.
Being intolerant of that which should not be tolerated is not bad.

Thoughts? I'm a liberal Christian, but I definitely agree with you on this. I don't find fundamentalists to be any less or more tolerant than libs. Same thing for liberals. Tolerance is now used by both sides of the church as a means of demonizing the opposition. You only have to look on the lib forum, to see that many of my fellow libs are tolerant of only certain groups, but not all...especially conservative Christians.

Lynn73
26th May 2005, 12:37 PM
Many people are tolerant of anything but Christianity or absolute truth. In fact, they hate us with a passion. That shows how "tolerant" they are.

You got that right! They don't even practice what they preach.

rural_preacher
26th May 2005, 12:47 PM
Many people are tolerant of anything but Christianity or absolute truth. In fact, they hate us with a passion. That shows how "tolerant" they are.

John 15:18-21
"If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me."


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crossrunner
26th May 2005, 08:06 PM
Great post. Reps to you! :D