St. Euphrosynos Taverna and Ouzeri (6)

[sin_vladimirov]

Question of the day:

What's a good brand of vodka?

TROJKA (TROYKA-The old 3 horse drawn chariot)

It is the best Vodka in the world.

Except no substitute.

[Matrona]

Hi guys,

I'm back.

Guess no one noticed I was gone. :)

[Lotar]

TROJKA (TROYKA-The old 3 horse drawn chariot)

It is the best Vodka in the world.

Except no substitute.

Sweet, thanks. :thumbsup:

I'll have to see if I can find it around here.

[Lotar]

Hi guys,

I'm back.

Guess no one noticed I was gone. :)

I did. Nice to have you back. :)

[Kolya]

Hi all. Please pray for Seraphima today, she's at home with a terrible migraine.
Kolya

[prodromos]

Hi all. Please pray for Seraphima today, she's at home with a terrible migraine.
Done!

[xenia]

Hi guys,

I'm back.

Guess no one noticed I was gone. :)


I noticed you were gone. I thought it might have something to do with the end of the school year or something.

[MariaRegina]

I have German ancestry, too, aus Hessen.

But I'm kind of a mutt, with Dutch, English, Danish, Scottish, Irish, French . . . who knows what else?

Me too!

If you've got French in you, then you might have Cherokee too.

That's what my family discovered.

In addition, we discovered that we are French Lebanese - and probably the Irish side are Irish-Lebanese because we are also black Irish, hence our dark hair and fair complexion.

[MariaRegina]

Hi all. Please pray for Seraphima today, she's at home with a terrible migraine.
Kolya

My prayers!

Do you have any oil from the shrines of the saints, like St. Nectarios or St. John of Shanghai and San Francisco?

[Kolya]

I went to our Icon corner and looked in the altar drawer drawer, and there is a bottle of oil rom St. John of Shanghai and San Francisco!
So I brought it down to Seraphima and I did a cross on her forehead and the back of her hands with it. I'm praying to St John NOW!
Thanks, and God bless you Aria!
In IC XC
Kolya

[Photini]

Hi guys,

I'm back.

Guess no one noticed I was gone. :)
Welcome back. :)

[Stephanida]

I noticed Matrona I just hoped it was due to end of school exams not something worse. Glad to have you back! :hug:

[RobNJ]

Hi guys,

I'm back.

Guess no one noticed I was gone. :)

didn't you say you were going to be away for a couple of days? I thought I remebered something about a house sitter & bunny baby sitter?

[Khaleas]

TROJKA (TROYKA-The old 3 horse drawn chariot)

It is the best Vodka in the world.

Except no substitute.

They even had THREE in this situation... :eek: Pretty cool!

[OrthodoxyUSA]

I fly the US flag because that is where I am... not that I think we are politically correct.

My username reflects my wishes for the US to learn about Orthodoxy.

IMHO, the US is awash in a sea of lies. The truth is here but it's very well hidden.

Christ is Risen!

Forgive me...

[Robbie_James_Francis]

Hi everyone! :wave:

How are we all today?

Christos Anesti!

Peace be with you,
Rob

[Michael the Iconographer]

HI to all of my friends. If you are not my friend, I guess I will say hi to you as well! :)

[Stephanida]

Hi Michael :wave:

[ExOrienteLux]

Why is that sad?

Do you really want me to get into politics, religion, and my philosophies on both? Suffice it to say that given the choice between an areligious 'democratic republic' and a Christian (even INO) monarchy, I'd jump at the monarchy.

Plus some of our country's current policies are reprehensible to me. I support our troops; doesn't mean I support the 'war' they're fighting.

XB!
-Philip.

[Robbie_James_Francis]

Wow...looks like the conversation over here is much more intellectual than the OBOB pub! :thumbsup: We tend to discuss what we want to eat--things like that...;) Peace in Christ

[ExOrienteLux]

By the way, good morning, Michael!

[gzt]

I want to eat a sandwich.

[Robbie_James_Francis]

I want to eat a sandwich.

:yum: :yum: You're making me hungry now...;)

[gzt]

It's Thursday! With meat.

[ExOrienteLux]

I'm waiting for lunch to roll around. This town's Kiwanis Club is having their monthly sandwich sale.

Mmmmmmm. Italian sausage sandwich and peanut butter pie....... *drools*

[Robbie_James_Francis]

I've just had lunch now...and you're still making me hungry! ;)

Peace be with you :hug:

Rob :liturgy:

[Greg the byzantine]

I'm going to be eating Souvlakia for the next four days, because it's our Church's annual Greek Festival. :yum: . And plenty of Loukoumades for dessert.

[Robbie_James_Francis]

I've never actually had Greek food...(unless you include uzo as food ^_^ ) but I've heard that there's a lot of really nice stuff.

Peace be with you

Christos Anesti! :liturgy:

[gzt]

so a friend of mine was going to give the homily at the anglican mass today and he invited us all along, so i went because i was specifically invited by a friend and it would be at least reasonably reverent. he asked me to do the epistle but i declined. i don't even remember what the gospel reading was, but the epistle was the one about preaching Christ crucified. the whole thing felt weird. later today, though, my parish is having a bbq for all those college students. doot doot. deacon dan is driving.

[Photini]

Hello everybody. :) How's it goin' today?

[Robbie_James_Francis]

Hello everybody. :) How's it goin' today?

Fine thanks...and how about you? :)

Rob

[Robbie_James_Francis]

so a friend of mine was going to give the homily at the anglican mass today and he invited us all along, so i went because i was specifically invited by a friend and it would be at least reasonably reverent.

So what was it like then? Sort of high church or more low?

Peace :)

[Photini]

Fine thanks...and how about you? :)

Rob
Pretty good. Nothing overly exciting happening.

[Robbie_James_Francis]

Pretty good. Nothing overly exciting happening.

That about sums up my last few days. :)

[elizabethevangeline]

There's a new thread in "questions from non-Christians" called
"why does god want to kill us all?"

I think an Orthodox perspective would be extremely good right now!

Anyone (Marjorie?) available?

Thanks

[Photini]

Why oh why did I even poke my head out of TAW today?

[Lotar]

Perhaps you secretly enjoy being offended. ;) :P

[Photini]

I'm not really offended. Just disappointed.

[Lotar]

I see.

Which thread did it today?

[gzt]

So what was it like then? Sort of high church or more low?
I really don't know as it's the first time I've ever been to an Anglican eucharist. It can only be so high or low anyway, I think, if it's a Thursday and there are only 9 people there.

[Photini]

I see.

Which thread did it today?
Several threads. Just gonna let 'em slide.

[RobNJ]

I really don't know as it's the first time I've ever been to an Anglican eucharist. It can only be so high or low anyway, I think, if it's a Thursday and there are only 9 people there.

There's also broad..which is between high & low;)

[Michael the Iconographer]

Hi all!

[MariaRegina]

Hi all!

Last final was taken today. I'm set free. Great feeling. But not for long.

Monday I begin teaching an AP class in phonetics at the University.

[Matrona]

Thanks Lotar, Xenia, Photini, Stephanida, and Rob.

I was actually in New York on vacation--we went to Albany to meet my sister's future in-laws and then went to New York City to see the sights. It was so much fun! :clap: I love Manhattan!

[InnerPhyre]

I'm envious, Matrona. I've always wanted to visit NYC. I've only driven past it on the way up further north.

[Marjorie]

I'm envious, Matrona. I've always wanted to visit NYC. I've only driven past it on the way up further north.

NY's overrated IMO. (I live like 45 minutes away from it.)

In IC XC,
Marjorie

[Matrona]

I'm envious, Matrona. I've always wanted to visit NYC. I've only driven past it on the way up further north.

It was so much fun, and it was much cleaner and brighter than I expected. I never felt afraid, I was never pickpocketed. It was easy to find my way around. The Metropolitan Museum of Art was awesome. I went to see Julius Caesar on Broadway with Denzel Washington(what a hottie!!!) which was spectacular. David Letterman wasn't taping but I had my picture taken under his sign, got a Late Show t-shirt at the CBS store, and went to the Hello Deli and met the real Rupert Jee! He was very friendly and he makes great sandwiches!

The only bad thing was that we had one of my mom's friends with us who was very pushy and bossy who wanted her way all the time. She made us walk from Greenwich Village all the way to the end of Manhattan, and then around to catch the Staten Island ferry. We went to visit Ground Zero and there were people selling junk, and she actually wanted to buy something. How horrible. :doh: I was trying to find a phone book so I could call the port authority and get them hauled out of there! Grave robbers!!!

[Marjorie]

Matrona,

I *LOVE* the Metropolitan Museum of Art. You should have seen their Byzantium exhibit last year.

Could those of you who are praying for my friend Chiara continue doing so? Right now her away message is something I said to her two nights ago on IM which gives me a lot of hope...


my screename [8:59 PM]: the two names for the mother of god which i like the best
my screename [8:59 PM]: are "she who is quick to hear" and "the joy of all who sorrow"

In IC XC,
Marjorie

[Michael the Iconographer]

Hey all! I just thought I would let you all know it is official that I am teaching a class on the meaning of iconography at Lorain County College the first 3 Tuesdays of October from 1pm-3pm. I can't tell you all how very excited I am about this. This combined with the taping of the TV interview in June and the editing and future publishing of my 2 essays on iconography makes for a very exciting and busy summer for me.

[InnerPhyre]

That sounds like an awesome trip, Matrona

[Matrona]

Thanks IP :)

Will do, Marjorie

[Matrona]

Matrona,

I *LOVE* the Metropolitan Museum of Art. You should have seen their Byzantium exhibit last year.

Yeah, I was looking through the Medieval Wing with my eyes wide! When I saw the replica of the mosaic at Hagia Sophia, I almost jumped out of my skin! Also, the Met has the Sacred Treasures CD's for only seven dollars and some other CD "Music of Byzantium" that was fourteen.

[Matrona]

This (http://nbcstore.shopnbc.com/product/?storeid=2&familyid=N52213&track=307450&Deptid=307450) is one of my favorite souvenirs that I brought home, since it is one of the more common creatures that prowls the Big Apple, and a stuffed pigeon wouldn't be very cute. :D

[MariaRegina]

Hey all! I just thought I would let you all know it is official that I am teaching a class on the meaning of iconography at Lorain County College the first 3 Tuesdays of October from 1pm-3pm. I can't tell you all how very excited I am about this. This combined with the taping of the TV interview in June and the editing and future publishing of my 2 essays on iconography makes for a very exciting and busy summer for me.

Congratulations, Michael.

How is it possible to teach about iconography at a public college?

[Michael the Iconographer]

Congratulations, Michael.

How is it possible to teach about iconography at a public college?

Ummm, I am not exactly sure, but the lady who is in charge of the adult education program is Serbian Orthodox, so maybe that has a little bit to do with it?

[Michael the Iconographer]

Aria,
I was going off on my job to a friend the other day while chilling in the mall. I was really steamed 'cuz I have to move my week of vacation to another week and my boss didn't seem to think twice about making me do it. So when this friend asked why I looked so upset earlier that morning I told her about what happened and she asked about my iconography and financial aspects of it and then said to me "You really have to love what you are doing to continue doing it much longer (in light of your growing career in iconography)." It really got me thinking yesterday.
Michael

[Kolya]

Hey all! I just thought I would let you all know it is official that I am teaching a class on the meaning of iconography at Lorain County College the first 3 Tuesdays of October from 1pm-3pm. I can't tell you all how very excited I am about this. This combined with the taping of the TV interview in June and the editing and future publishing of my 2 essays on iconography makes for a very exciting and busy summer for me.

Well done! Way to go Michael:thumbsup:

Good day world:wave:

[Matrona]

How is it possible to teach about iconography at a public college?

Uh, it's not exactly out of the ordinary. We have classes in iconography and Orthodox theology at my state supported university. The latter is taught by a believer but the former is not.

[Michael the Iconographer]

Well done! Way to go Michael:thumbsup:

Good day world:wave:

Thank you, Kolya! I am actually very excited about this. I need to get back in contact with Oberlin college to discuss my teaching the much more indepth class on iconography that will involve the actual writing of an icon this winter at Oberlin. My priest and I are talking about me teaching this same class in the evenings at my parish and it being open to all Orthodox Christians. The priest who chrismated me thinks I should charge the people who attend a nominal fee so that they have something invested in the class.

[Kolya]

My priest and I are talking about me teaching this same class in the evenings at my parish and it being open to all Orthodox Christians. The priest who chrismated me thinks I should charge the people who attend a nominal fee so that they have something invested in the class.

Very good idea Michael.:)

BTW, Thank you for everyone's prayers yesterday. Seraphima is back at work today. (Good thing the weekend is almost here though)

[MariaRegina]

Thank you, Kolya! I am actually very excited about this. I need to get back in contact with Oberlin college to discuss my teaching the much more indepth class on iconography that will involve the actual writing of an icon this winter at Oberlin. My priest and I are talking about me teaching this same class in the evenings at my parish and it being open to all Orthodox Christians. The priest who chrismated me thinks I should charge the people who attend a nominal fee so that they have something invested in the class.

There have been some iconographers who offer summer workshops for children or adults and they also charge a fee. However, the fee is usually charged by the church and then a stipend is given to the iconographer. The fee covers the luncheon also. These seminars are very popular. With limited seating, the tickets sell out quickly.

[nicodemus]

Good evening/morning everyone. (I'm on diaper duty and am trying to get the little guy back to sleep in the rocker!)

[Robbie_James_Francis]

I really don't know as it's the first time I've ever been to an Anglican eucharist. It can only be so high or low anyway, I think, if it's a Thursday and there are only 9 people there.

Good point. :)

[Michael the Iconographer]

There have been some iconographers who offer summer workshops for children or adults and they also charge a fee. However, the fee is usually charged by the church and then a stipend is given to the iconographer. The fee covers the luncheon also. These seminars are very popular. With limited seating, the tickets sell out quickly.

This class will not actually be about teaching people to write icons. If I were teaching someone to write an icon they would pay me very well for that. This class is more my explaining the meaning of iconography.

[prodromos]

Good evening/morning everyone. (I'm on diaper duty and am trying to get the little guy back to sleep in the rocker!)
Get him used to sleeping with loud music and other noise. It makes life much easier later ;)

[prodromos]

Michael, what is happening sounds great. I can imagine how you you would feel about the prospect of going full time with iconography related projects and quitting retail altogether. I hope God makes your future path clear to you.

[Dust and Ashes]

Get him used to sleeping with loud music and other noise. It makes life much easier later ;)

ROFL indeed. When I was growing up, my home was party central so there was always something going on. When you can fall asleep on the floor with loud music, flashing lights, laughter and people dancing, you can fall asleep most anywhere. Unlike my MIL. If you go to the bathroom during the night, she will sigh exasperatedly in the other room then complain the next morning how she didn't sleep well.

[Michael the Iconographer]

Michael, what is happening sounds great. I can imagine how you you would feel about the prospect of going full time with iconography related projects and quitting retail altogether. I hope God makes your future path clear to you.

God is making the path clear to me, it is just he has yet to show me how this is going to work out financially. I think I need the intercession of St. Xenia of St. Petersburg on this one.

[Michael the Iconographer]

Uh, it's not exactly out of the ordinary. We have classes in iconography and Orthodox theology at my state supported university. The latter is taught by a believer but the former is not.

This comment doesn't make sense to me. Can you explain?

[ExOrienteLux]

Hey there, folks. How are things going wherever you are?

A couple things for me:

1.) I started learning Byzantine chant last night at Late Vocations. Wow, is it a LOT easier than Obikhod! That's not to say that it's necessarily better, but it's very different and a whole lot easier. I really like not having to shoehorn the text to fit the melody.

2.) Could you pray for Marlene and I? There are some issues going on in both our lives that we need prayer for. Thanks.

Later, all.

XB!
-Philip.

[Michael the Iconographer]

2.) Could you pray for Marlene and I? There are some issues going on in both our lives that we need prayer for. Thanks.

Later, all.

XB!
-Philip.

You two are always in my prayers.

[Photini]

Hello everybody. I'm on my way out again...gotta get my son's haircut before we get our picture taken tomorrow. Hope everybody's having a good day. :)

[Lotar]

I bought the new Mushroom Jazz cd during lunch today... Sooo awesome. :thumbsup:

Just grooving right now. ^_^

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Hey there, folks. How are things going wherever you are?

A couple things for me:

1.) I started learning Byzantine chant last night at Late Vocations. Wow, is it a LOT easier than Obikhod! That's not to say that it's necessarily better, but it's very different and a whole lot easier. I really like not having to shoehorn the text to fit the melody.

2.) Could you pray for Marlene and I? There are some issues going on in both our lives that we need prayer for. Thanks.

Later, all.

XB!
-Philip.

Philip,

I hope everything is O.K...:(

You are on my prayer list...:bow:

Christ is Risen!

Forgive me....:liturgy:

[Lotar]

For everyone who likes downtempo Jazz, Hip-Hop, House, Turntablism, or some combination, check out this album: http://www.shopsolid.com/cgi-bin/order.cgi?search=yes&exact_match=yes&product=Om-175%20OM-175vlp

Sooooo sweet. :cool:

[Michael the Iconographer]

Good morning, everyone!

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Good morning, everyone!

No coffee yet! :wave: I'll go make some now... it's the good stuff "spiced buttered rum"

Want a bagal? Cream cheese? Stawberries?

Christ is Risen!

Forgive me...

[Stephanida]

Good moring everyone. Just popping for a quick break. I just got all the kids (my 4 plus 2 of their friends) outside. Time to sit with my cup of tea and not have a munchkin talking to me for 2 seconds!

[PandaBear]

For everyone who likes downtempo Jazz, Hip-Hop, House, Turntablism, or some combination, check out this album: http://www.shopsolid.com/cgi-bin/order.cgi?search=yes&exact_match=yes&product=Om-175%20OM-175vlp

Sooooo sweet. :cool:

Thanks, much, Lotar...I'm a music lover, and always appreciate recommendations of all sorts!

[MariaRegina]

Good moring everyone. Just popping for a quick break. I just got all the kids (my 4 plus 2 of their friends) outside. Time to sit with my cup of tea and not have a munchkin talking to me for 2 seconds!

I had the same situation when I was your age as I was the oldest of 5.

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Ah.. leftover pizza...

Christ is Risen!

Forgive me...

[Photini]

I bought the new Mushroom Jazz cd during lunch today... Sooo awesome. :thumbsup:

Just grooving right now. ^_^
I agree. That's one awesome CD. :)

[elizabethevangeline]

Wow, it's boring over in GH. Nothing very interesting to discuss.

Is there an unofficial boycott by TAW folks? Haven't seen anyone in GH lately...maybe that's why it's seems boring to me.

But I did see this and it made me laugh...


Ask our Orthodox brothers at TAW if the early Christians & Church fathers believed in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. Just watch out for their teeth...

[gzt]

Perhaps there is, a bunch of people recently said they were avoiding GH, so I guess that was everybdoy.

[jameseb]

I don't even know what GH is... aren't I a tard... ;)

[gzt]

GH = General Heresies = our name for General Theology [f80].

[OrthodoxyUSA]

GH = General Heresies = our name for General Theology [f80].

ROFL ROFL ROFL!!!!!!^_^

[Emmanuel-A]

I go to bed now. Have a blessed sunday you all :yawn:

[Andy Broadley]

Hello.

Just kicking an idea round here which could be fun

A three way pub quiz. Taverna v Reilly's v Alehouse.

Thought we could ask Chrisbot to be question master.

Any takers?

[Konstantinos]

Sorry but I dont understand what you mean?

[RobNJ]

I don't even know what GH is... aren't I a tard... ;)

At LEAST you finally found your way back to the Taverna!:D

[Marjorie]

Hello.

Just kicking an idea round here which could be fun

A three way pub quiz. Taverna v Reilly's v Alehouse.

Thought we could ask Chrisbot to be question master.

Any takers?

What's a pub quiz? Sounds cool though. :cool:

In IC XC,
Marjorie

[ufonium2]

I think I could win a pub quiz. I spend a lot of time in pubs, so you could say I study several times a week ;)

[MariaRegina]

What is a pub quiz? I know next to nothing about drinks - although I do know what a Shirley Temple is.

[Lotar]

I don't know very much about drinks either.

I have 5 years as a tea totaler to make up for. :P

[MariaRegina]

We have a history of alcoholism in my family, so I don't drink.

If they have a wet bar at a party, I like to order cranberry juice plain. I don't know if that has a bar name.

[Lotar]

We have a history of alcoholism in my family, so I don't drink.

If they have a wet bar at a party, I like to order cranberry juice plain. I don't know if that has a bar name.

Alcoholism runs pretty deep on my father's side of the family. I guess it sort of goes with being Irish.

I'm always careful when I drink. I haven't been drunk since 9th grade.

[Stephanida]

Alcoholism runs very deep on my dad's side too. He is Acadian. So I am going to be very careful with alcohol.

On a lighter note. Goodnight TAW! I'm off for my de-caf tea, meds and pocky! I got some pocky yesterday at the japanese shop. Yummy!

[Michael the Iconographer]

Good morning my friends!

[Robbie_James_Francis]

Yes, I think a pub quiz would be a great idea...we could make it a regular event. I think most of the congregations have some sort of fellowship thread like a pub, taverna, alehouse etc. We could make it a regular event and have a virtual trophy. ^_^ Rob

[PandaBear]

Good morning my friends!

Good morning Michael!

And everyone else too! :wave:

[xenia]

Hi PandaBear!

[Andy Broadley]

Yes, I think a pub quiz would be a great idea...we could make it a regular event. I think most of the congregations have some sort of fellowship thread like a pub, taverna, alehouse etc. We could make it a regular event and have a virtual trophy. ^_^ Rob

And of course the winners would then have bragging rights till the next quiz

[Matrona]

And of course the winners would then have bragging rights till the next quiz

Sounds like fun. :)

[katherine2001]

Alcoholism runs pretty deep on my father's side of the family. I guess it sort of goes with being Irish.

I'm always careful when I drink. I haven't been drunk since 9th grade.

Yes, but you can develop a problem very gradually and not even realize that you are becoming an alcoholic. My mother was like that. I don't drink because both of my parents were alcoholics, and both of my brothers have had a drinking problem as well (one hasn't had a drink in about 15 years, but the other is still an alcoholic). Both me and my priest have decided it is not a good idea for me to start drinking. With both parents having been alcoholics, my chance of becoming an alcoholic if I started drinking is about 80%. To me, it ain't worth it.

[Photini]

Hello everybody. :)

[Suzannah]

At LEAST you finally found your way back to the Taverna!:D

It would have been my first stop too....right after the Immigration unit....
:D

Donegal gets more and more beautiful ...Absence, the heart, all that ...Just got home a few days ago and after a much needed rest, I am ready to go HOME....
;)

[Michael the Iconographer]

SUZ!
I have your email but it said that account doesnt work anymore. Email me, my old friend, please!
Michael

[Michael the Iconographer]

Hey all,
You can call me pandabear for the time being. I had a picnic with a friend today and didn't wear any sunscreen so certain parts of my arms and legs are sunburnt!
Michael

[Photini]

>ouch< Sunburns are the pits. I'm finally finished peeling from my last sunburn.

[Matrona]

Yes, but you can develop a problem very gradually and not even realize that you are becoming an alcoholic. My mother was like that. I don't drink because both of my parents were alcoholics, and both of my brothers have had a drinking problem as well (one hasn't had a drink in about 15 years, but the other is still an alcoholic). Both me and my priest have decided it is not a good idea for me to start drinking. With both parents having been alcoholics, my chance of becoming an alcoholic if I started drinking is about 80%. To me, it ain't worth it.

That's me as well. My sister isn't an alcoholic but she's marrying into a big Yankee family that drinks like fish. Combined with my family's susceptibility to alcoholism on our mother's side, this doesn't bode well for her and I'm hoping she won't have to learn the hard way. I should take a picture of their recycling bin and post it here, y'all would not believe the stack of liquor bottles... :doh:

Ironically, my grandfather on my father's side was killed in a drunk driving accident many years ago, back when it wasn't really considered much of a crime. Our family was lucky--the guy spent one year in jail for killing my grandfather.

[Michael the Iconographer]

a big Yankee family

Please explain what you mean by this?

[Matrona]

Xenia, what are you doing still here? The airline didn't run off with your luggage like it did mine, did it? :eek:

[xenia]

Xenia, what are you doing still here? The airline didn't run off with your luggage like it did mine, did it? :eek:

I'm still here, we're leaving tomorrow. I'm kind of fidgiting around, having done everything that needs to be done. :yawn:

[Suzannah]

I'm still here, we're leaving tomorrow. I'm kind of fidgiting around, having done everything that needs to be done. :yawn:

Well, since you're still here shall you do the reports, or should I???
Just kidding....
Have a great trip...I know I enjoyed mine.

[Matrona]

I'm still here, we're leaving tomorrow. I'm kind of fidgiting around, having done everything that needs to be done. :yawn:

:) What part of Spain are you going to?

[katherine2001]

Please explain what you mean by this?

In Southern speak, a yankee is anyone not a Southerner!

[Michael the Iconographer]

In Southern speak, a yankee is anyone not a Southerner!

So you have no problem with me calling you a REB, right?

[Khaleas]

Red neck Orthodox and proud of it LOL... ;)


Yup, and I'm in Maryland... but we're still south of the Mason Dixon line...

[xenia]

:) What part of Spain are you going to?

Madrid, Seville and Granada. And a few days at the beach!

[Michael the Iconographer]

Red neck Orthodox and proud of it LOL... ;)


Yup, and I'm in Maryland... but we're still south of the Mason Dixon line...

Because of the sun burn I am partially red legged. But then I did have a blast this afternoon getting the sun burn.

[RobNJ]

Yankees??
Someone lookin' for me!!:wave:

[Matrona]

In Southern speak, a yankee is anyone not a Southerner!

That's right. :)

I've heard Yankees themselves think Yankees are New Englanders, New Englanders think a Yankee is someone from Vermont, and people from Vermont think a Yankee is someone from Vermont who doesn't have indoor plumbing. :D

The "Yankees" term in this case, however, refers to people in upstate New York.

[Khaleas]

Because of the sun burn I am partially red legged. But then I did have a blast this afternoon getting the sun burn.


Hmm... that would make you a 'red legged' Orthodox... :D

[Suzannah]

That's right. :)

I've heard Yankees themselves think Yankees are New Englanders, New Englanders think a Yankee is someone from Vermont, and people from Vermont think a Yankee is someone from Vermont who doesn't have indoor plumbing. :D

Odd. Quite odd. Because as far as many across the pond are concerned, all of you are "Yanks", southerners included, and it's not a compliment, or a term of endearment I assure you.

[Michael the Iconographer]

Hmm... that would make you a 'red legged' Orthodox... :D

I would rather be a red legged Orthodox than a black eyed Orthodox.

[Khaleas]

Odd. Quite odd. Because as far as many across the pond are concerned, all of you are "Yanks", southerners included, and it's not a compliment, or a term of endearment I assure you.

Yup, I second that... In Finland we even have gum named Jenkki (means Yankee)... we just chew you all and spit you out... :D
And if you talk about the US you talk about Jenkkila, which is basically Yankee-land.

[Matrona]

Madrid, Seville and Granada. And a few days at the beach!

How will you get around within Spain? Do they have high-speed trains like in France? (I want to go back to Europe very much and am curious about the rail system :) )

[Michael the Iconographer]

Odd. Quite odd. Because as far as many across the pond are concerned, all of you are "Yanks", southerners included, and it's not a compliment, or a term of endearment I assure you.

Yeah, to a Brit a Yank is a Yank and you don't have to be from north of the Mason-Dixon line to be a Yank and it is not exactly a friendly compliment. So welcome to the ranks of us Yankees, Matrona and all.

[RobNJ]

Odd. Quite odd. Because as far as many across the pond are concerned, all of you are "Yanks", southerners included, and it's not a compliment, or a term of endearment I assure you.

Well......THAT goes back to the American Revolution...The British troops made up the song "Yankee Doodle Dandy" to put down the Americans, then got it sung right back at 'em, while they were getting run out of the country;)

[Suzannah]

Yeah, to a Brit a Yank is a Yank and you don't have to be from north of the Mason-Dixon line to be a Yank and it is not exactly a friendly compliment. So welcome to the ranks of us Yankees, Matrona and all.

Don't feel bad! You ought to hear what the Brits call us Irish! They have pet names for everyone and ours is no better than your own! LOL

[Michael the Iconographer]

Don't feel bad! You ought to hear what the Brits call us Irish! They have pet names for everyone and ours is no better than your own! LOL

From what I understand there is a phrase in Gaellic for "dropping trousers and mooning the English." If you ask me, the English are nothing more than German wannabees. :D I can prove that, if you want me to! :)

[xenia]

How will you get around within Spain? Do they have high-speed trains like in France? (I want to go back to Europe very much and am curious about the rail system :) )

Bus. ^_^

I'm taking some kids from my high school and we are on one of those package tours. It will be fun- I won't have to do much thinking, but nothing is gonna be exactly first-class.

My husband and I went to Spain a few years ago and we loved those speedy trains.

When I was in France last year, they kept finding bombs buried under the RR tracks so I refrained from taking a train.

[katherine2001]

Red neck Orthodox and proud of it LOL... ;)


Yup, and I'm in Maryland... but we're still south of the Mason Dixon line...

I'm a former South Carolinian (my parents were from South Carolina and Oklahoma, so I'm a Southerner from way back) living in Southwest Montana, so I'm still a Southerner. My city was founded by four miners from Georgia that were getting ready to leave here if they didn't find any gold.

[RobNJ]

Bus. ^_^

I'm taking some kids from my high school and we are on one of those package tours. It will be fun- I won't have to do much thinking, but nothing is gonna be exactly first-class.



Repeat after me:
Dos cervezas, por favor ;)

[Michael the Iconographer]

Bus. ^_^

I'm taking some kids from my high school and we are on one of those package tours. It will be fun- I won't have to do much thinking, but nothing is gonna be exactly first-class.

My husband and I went to Spain a few years ago and we loved those speedy trains.

When I was in France last year, they kept finding bombs buried under the RR tracks so I refrained from taking a train.

That is the one bad thing about package tours is that the accomodations aren't exactly first class. I experienced that the first time I was in Germany when I took a side trip to Amsterdam and Paris.

[Stephanida]

Just a really really random question because I am out of my mind busy, does anyone know if there is a backlog thread that talks about the Orthodox Church in 450-1550? I have an essay where I have to prove a teacher wrong, she is trying to really put down us Orthodox badly, not realizing (either that or not caring) that she has an Orthodox in her class.

[xenia]

If you really want to pray effectively for my trip, please pray that at a rambunctious (but lovable) young man named Kevin doesn't get into any trouble. I signed a paper saying I would pay for anything our group breaks.... Oh Lord, please don't let Keven break the Cathedral of Seville!!!

[gzt]

Fr. Hopko's Rainbow Series, which is available on the OCA site, has a short account of Church History.

[Matrona]

Well......THAT goes back to the American Revolution...The British troops made up the song "Yankee Doodle Dandy" to put down the Americans, then got it sung right back at 'em, while they were getting run out of the country;)

Here's dictionary.com's answer:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=yankee

The one I used is #2, the European one is #3. Two is better than three so I win. :D

From Wikipedia:

To foreigners, a Yankee is an American.
To Americans, a Yankee is an Easterner.
To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander.
To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter.
And in Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast.
—(an old definition)
"It is used by people from other countries as slang to mean Americans, both as a term of endearment and as an insult. Hence, the term has had various positive, negative, contextual and regional associations over the years, as books, media, troops, teams, and peoples have used it differently for different purposes."

[Khaleas]

Ok, the geographic green eggs and ham-ing contest is now over!

*BLOWS WHISTLE*

[Michael the Iconographer]

Thank you oh great referree! :bow: :bow: :bow:

[Matrona]

Bus. ^_^

Don't laugh, I took a bus in France and it was actually nice... saw more of the countryside than on the train (speedy trains go too fast for you to see much of anything!), and the bus driver handled my 70 pounds of luggage for me instead of me having to stow it myself in the train's overhead compartment. :eek: So you and the young'uns might enjoy the bus better than you would the train.

When I was in France last year, they kept finding bombs buried under the RR tracks so I refrained from taking a train.

:eek: I hope my parents don't find out about that, my mom would plotz. :eek:

[xenia]

I took a bus from Paris to central France and it was totally delightful, driving through old villages and the like. But the best bus ride of my life was the one that meandered all through rural Scotland. Rainbows, long-haired cows- it was heavenly.

[Stephanida]

You guys are making me really miss France. I took the train for which I am very glad! I get very motion sick the less time on anything moving that isn't my own two feet the better! I spent a few days going around Paris on a bus. NEVER AGAIN!!! This was hands down the worst part of my month in France. :sick:

Many thanks gtz. This should help. I know I shouldn't take it so personally but I am so sick of having to listen to all the lies my teacher says about the EO in class.

[MariaRegina]

Alcoholism runs very deep on my dad's side too. He is Acadian. So I am going to be very careful with alcohol.

On a lighter note. Goodnight TAW! I'm off for my de-caf tea, meds and pocky! I got some pocky yesterday at the japanese shop. Yummy!

What is pocky?

[MariaRegina]

Well, since you're still here shall you do the reports, or should I???
Just kidding....
Have a great trip...I know I enjoyed mine.

Dear Suzannah:

Did you take any pics that you can display here?

[Stephanida]

It is basically a cookie stick dipped in a flavour, chocolate, strawberry, carmel, berry, white chocolate, yogurt, mousse....ect. The list goes on and on. It has been brought over to Canada by the Japanese/Chinese. We have a very high asian population in my city so pocky is very popular as well as really really tasty! Sadly not fastable.

[MariaRegina]

I would rather be a red legged Orthodox than a black eyed Orthodox.

LOL

I'd rather not show my legs.

[Suzannah]

Dear Suzannah:

Did you take any pics that you can display here?


That I can or that I dare????

LOL!

Just kidding you.....Actually, I spent nearly the entire time just "being" if you know what I mean. It's beautiful there this time of year, and I spent a goodly amount of time simply walking....and thinking...and walking some more...and staring out at the sea....

[MariaRegina]

I took a bus from Paris to central France and it was totally delightful, driving through old villages and the like. But the best bus ride of my life was the one that meandered all through rural Scotland. Rainbows, long-haired cows- it was heavenly.

That must have been wonderful.

I took the bus from Corvallis, Oregon to Portland, Oregon, and some scenes were absolutely breath-taking.

[MariaRegina]

That I can or that I dare????

LOL!

Just kidding you.....Actually, I spent nearly the entire time just "being" if you know what I mean. It's beautiful there this time of year, and I spent a goodly amount of time simply walking....and thinking...and walking some more...and staring out at the sea....

Where did you go. Ireland?

I've never been there but my relatives live in County Cork.

[Suzannah]

Where did you go. Ireland?

I've never been there but my relatives live in County Cork.

Yes, home sweet home! Donegal...Inishowen to be exact...my home. You're lucky ducky to have relatives in Cork...it's gorgeous there as well..wild and a terrible beauty in the winter, gentle and sweet in summer. I've been there but don't have relatives there to stay with...hotels get expensive quickly in Cork !

[MariaRegina]

Yes, home sweet home! Donegal...Inishowen to be exact...my home. You're lucky ducky to have relatives in Cork...it's gorgeous there as well..wild and a terrible beauty in the winter, gentle and sweet in summer. I've been there but don't have relatives there to stay with...hotels get expensive quickly in Cork !

Actually, all I know is that my relatives came from County Cork. If there are still any there I don't know. I'd probably have to stay in a hotel too.

How many Orthodox Churches are in Ireland -- any data about this online?

[Matrona]

Anyway, for anyone who was confused, I don't dislike my sister's fiance's family because they're from the north--I dislike them because they're obnoxious as heck and more back to the original topic I was replying to, extremely irresponsible with alcohol. My sister's fiance's stepdad was so drunk at her bridal shower, he started telling blasphemous jokes and hitting on me. Everyone had to have seen, but there seems to be some kind of contagious selective amnesia going around. :scratch: :sigh:

[MariaRegina]

Anyway, for anyone who was confused, I don't dislike my sister's fiance's family because they're from the north--I dislike them because they're obnoxious as heck and more back to the original topic I was replying to, extremely irresponsible with alcohol. My sister's fiance's stepdad was so drunk at her bridal shower, he started telling blasphemous jokes and hitting on me. Everyone had to have seen, but there seems to be some kind of contagious selective amnesia going around. :scratch: :sigh:

I think that's called denial.

However, the Irish in particular have a tendency to blackout with amnesia when they get in a drunken stupor. One Irish drunk raped a women and claimed amnesia, but the judge didn't buy it.

[Matrona]

However, the Irish in particular have a tendency to blackout with amnesia when they get in a drunken stupor. One Irish drunk raped a women and claimed amnesia, but the judge didn't buy it.

I've heard of that. But I don't think this is real amnesia... it's denial, like you said.

[Lotar]

It always seemed to me that it isn't that Irish are prone to blackouts, but that there is a cultural precedent to pretend like it didn't happen.

[Kolya]

Good day all, welcome to the new week.

Suzannah! This is a surprise; Welcome back!!!

[MariaRegina]

It always seemed to me that it isn't that Irish are prone to blackouts, but that there is a cultural precedent to pretend like it didn't happen.

Hey, I'm Irish and I have blacked out when eating barley. No fooling.

About 20 years ago, while I was shopping, I ate one of those Tiger Milk bars that contain barley malt. I left and went home. Then I realized that I had missed my doctor's appointment. So I called the doctor and he said that I had just been there an hour ago and that if I would check my purse, I'd find a prescription inside it.

Well, I found the prescription, but to this day, I don't remember a thing about going to the doctors, who drove me, or if I drove myself, or how I got home. Nada.

When the allergist checked me for barley, I again experienced temporary amnesia.

So I avoid it.

[Lotar]

Hey, I'm Irish and I have blacked out when eating barley. No fooling.

About 20 years ago, while I was shopping, I ate one of those Tiger Milk bars that contain barley malt. I left and went home. Then I realized that I had missed my doctor's appointment. So I called the doctor and he said that I had just been there an hour ago and that if I would check my purse, I'd find a prescription inside it.

Well, I found the prescription, but to this day, I don't remember a thing about going to the doctors, who drove me, or if I drove myself, or how I got home. Nada.

When the allergist checked me for barley, I again experienced temporary amnesia.

So I avoid it.

Really? That's interesting, I've never heard of anything like that before.

[Kolya]

Hey, I'm Irish and I have blacked out when eating barley. No fooling.
When the allergist checked me for barley, I again experienced temporary amnesia.

So I avoid it.

Stay away, sister! It's the stuff they put in a good malt beer too.

[MariaRegina]

Stay away, sister! It's the stuff they put in a good malt beer too.

I do.

And everytime I pass those two breweries in Southern California, I get nauseated. The stuff is in the air.

[MariaRegina]

Well, my allergist calls it a brain allergy.

He's seen allergies affect people in various ways -

Some people get spacy; others get angry; some people just get very sleepy; others get hives; and others have life-threatening reactions.

[Lotar]

I do.

And everytime I pass those two breweries in Southern California, I get nauseated. The stuff is in the air.

Crazy. Those big ones by the 210? I've never even noticed them giving off a smell.

I guess I should be thankfull for my Sicilian side of the family balancing out the Irish peculiarities. :P ^_^

[MariaRegina]

Crazy. Those big ones by the 210? I've never even noticed them giving off a smell.

I guess I should be thankfull for the Sicilian side of the family balancing out the Irish peculiarities. :P ^_^

Yes, those!

At first I thought that I was passing by a bakery with the strong smell of yeast, then I started coughing and my husband pointed out the breweries. You can smell them for miles sometimes. I am so thankful that I don't live next to one of those, as I would probably act spacy all the time.

By the way, with a strong air conditioning unit running, you barely notice the odor.
We don't always have it on, especially during the winter.

[Matrona]

Hey, I'm Irish and I have blacked out when eating barley. No fooling.

:eek:

[prodromos]

Just a really really random question because I am out of my mind busy, does anyone know if there is a backlog thread that talks about the Orthodox Church in 450-1550? I have an essay where I have to prove a teacher wrong, she is trying to really put down us Orthodox badly, not realizing (either that or not caring) that she has an Orthodox in her class.
Don't forget Bishop Kalistos Ware's book, "The Orthodox Church" is online. He covers a fair bit of history :)
http://www.intratext.com/X/ENG0804.HTM

Christos Anesti! Christ is Risen!
John

[Stephanida]

Thanks John!

[prodromos]

Welcome back Sioban! We've missed you :)
...and staring out at the sea...
You wouldn't be a sailor by any chance? ;)

Christos Anesti! Christ is Risen!
John

[Michael the Iconographer]

LOL

I'd rather not show my legs.

Mine are coated in aloe vera right now. The funny thing is the burn will tan out over a few days and then I will have a really funky looking tan.

[Khaleas]

Morning my friends! :wave: I'm back home again after Kevin got his aviator 'Wings of Gold' this weekend. Great party! The wives also got Certificates of Appreciation and flowers so it was really cool... I'm going back down to visit on Thursday and I'll stay til Monday I think...

Now I just need to figure out how to stop thinking evil thoughts about my mother-in-law. I love her dearly but she is driving me nuts trying to turn my wedding into a high stress occation which I refuse to have it be. Especially since they aren't paying a cent... :mad:

[Michael the Iconographer]

HI Jennie! Thank you for posting the picture of you and Kevin for us!

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Morning my friends! :wave: I'm back home again after Kevin got his aviator 'Wings of Gold' this weekend. Great party! The wives also got Certificates of Appreciation and flowers so it was really cool... I'm going back down to visit on Thursday and I'll stay til Monday I think...

Now I just need to figure out how to stop thinking evil thoughts about my mother-in-law. I love her dearly but she is driving me nuts trying to turn my wedding into a high stress occation which I refuse to have it be. Especially since they aren't paying a cent... :mad:

Congrats to Kevin! :thumbsup:

Christ is Risen!

Forgive me...

[prodromos]

Guys, you absolutely must read Iacobus' blog today. This was totally new to me, wow!
Eyes of Clay (http://minorclergy.journalspace.com/)

Christos Anesti! Christ is Risen!
John

[Kolya]

Morning my friends! I'm back home again after Kevin got his aviator 'Wings of Gold' this weekend. Great party! The wives also got Certificates of Appreciation and flowers so it was really cool... I'm going back down to visit on Thursday and I'll stay til Monday I think...

Now I just need to figure out how to stop thinking evil thoughts about my mother-in-law. I love her dearly but she is driving me nuts trying to turn my wedding into a high stress occation which I refuse to have it be. Especially since they aren't paying a cent...

Congrats to Kevin. Thanks for the Pic. I see you're a good Orthodox girl with your ring on the right hand:)
M-I-L are always the pits!!! My sympathy.

[Khaleas]

Congrats to Kevin. Thanks for the Pic. I see you're a good Orthodox girl with your ring on the right hand:)
M-I-L are always the pits!!! My sympathy.

Actually Kolya it's on the left ;) ! It will be on the right at the wedding...

[Khaleas]

Actually Kolya it's on the left ;) ! It will be on the right at the wedding...

I have a massive problem with my fingers swelling during DL (I have bad circulation to begin with). I don't eat much salt at all so that's not it... but standing with my hands down so long... I end up having to move my ring to my little finger toward the end. :( Other times it's almost too loose...

[Kolya]

Guys, you absolutely must read Iacobus' blog today. This was totally new to me, wow!
Eyes of Clay (http://minorclergy.journalspace.com/)

Christos Anesti! Christ is Risen!
John

He is Risen Indeed!

Seraphima has often alluded to this to me. She knows, she has noe eyes either!

[Suzannah]

Welcome back Sioban! We've missed you :)

You wouldn't be a sailor by any chance? ;)

Christos Anesti! Christ is Risen!
John

Aliios (spelling???) Anesti!!!!


I could be a selkie in disguise.....but then again, a selkie is too smart to sign the Articles...just like no dolphin has ever signed up for aol. :D

[prodromos]

Alithos :)

[ExOrienteLux]

SUZ IS BACK!!!!! Yay!!!!

Since you're speaking of Eire, I've got somethign I've been dying to tell you when you got back. I ran an idea past my priest (who's Irish himself), and he gave me some info and liturgics on it, after approving it. He thinks it's OK for me to write an Akathist to St. Patrick!!! Woot!

Anyway,

Tá Criosd é ar eírigh! ( I think my spelling's right. Anyway, you know what I'm trying to say!)

Xpictoc Bockpece!
-Philip.

[Marjorie]

Wow, Philip, COOL! I will be praying for you to write the best you can, through the intercession of St. Patrick and the Holy Theotokos. (I wonder what "Theotokos" would be in Irish?)

In IC XC,
Marjorie

[Suzannah]

SUZ IS BACK!!!!! Yay!!!!

Since you're speaking of Eire, I've got somethign I've been dying to tell you when you got back. I ran an idea past my priest (who's Irish himself), and he gave me some info and liturgics on it, after approving it. He thinks it's OK for me to write an Akathist to St. Patrick!!! Woot!

Anyway,

Tá Criosd é ar eírigh! ( I think my spelling's right. Anyway, you know what I'm trying to say!)

Xpictoc Bockpece!
-Philip.

Philip!!!!
:hug:

I'm like rubber,
and you're like glue,
so whatever you say bounces off me
and sticks to you!
(:P)

You ought to know by now that spelling in Irish is almost an ascetical exercise in itself!
LOL

You must promise me you will send me a copy of the Akathist to Padraig when you have it done! If this is something of an avocation for you, may I send you a pm regarding another saint???

[Suzannah]

Wow, Philip, COOL! I will be praying for you to write the best you can, through the intercession of St. Patrick and the Holy Theotokos. (I wonder what "Theotokos" would be in Irish?)

In IC XC,
Marjorie

To be honest Marjorie, I'm not really sure. From all my studying, I am GUESSING (not certain, just guessing) that the early Irish church probably kept the word Theotokos, just as we seem to do. I am guessing that a good reason for that would be that a similar word in Irish would have serious pagan connotations that would be impossible to overcome later....I'm not a linguistics major, or a serious scholar, but I know the history and the literary language of my people very well...the word for all that would sort blend into "Dana" who was goddess of my people....the Tuatha de Dannan were "the gods" who were her children.... in the words of Aunt Voula: That why that no work!

The word: a Mháthair Dé (I had to copy it and paste from an Irish an Gaelic RC site to make sure it was right) means: mother of God. All perfectly well. BUT, in the ancient world this would have been immediately understood to be Dana, the goddess, especially by illiterate peasants ^_^ That's why I tend to think that St. Patrick, Columba, Brigid, all these wonderful folks probably just used the "Theotokos" in public, although they might have used the Irish word in private...Another reason I think this is because St. Patrick's Dictum pretty much ordered everyone to use the Greek of Kyrie Eleison!:
"As recorded in Tírecháns Brief Account.


I had the fear of God as my guide through Gaul and Italy and the islands in the Tyrrhene Sea.
You have gone from this world to paradise, thanks be to God.
Church of the Irish, or rather of the Romans! In order that you may be Christians like the Romans, you must chant in your churches at every hour of prayer that commendable utterance: "Kyrie Eleison, Christe Eleison." Let every church that follows me sing "Kyrie Eleison, Christe Eleison." Thanks be to God. "


..I think it "works" in the RC rite in Ireland now, only because of 1000+ years remove from their pagan roots.

[Suzannah]

Philip,

I forgot!

Go dheimhinn ta se eirithe!!!

(Will you please tell me how to turn on my keyboard so I can make my tish marks? It's this Sassenach computer!!!)

[ExOrienteLux]

I will send you a copy when I'm done. In fact, I'll get you a copy of what I have so far, even though it's still rough and unedited and nowhere close to being finished. I might consider another one, though this Akathist will probably take a good long time.

And you put the tish marks on the vowels like this:
á = Alt + 0225
é = Alt + 0233
í = Alt + 0237
ó = Alt + 0243
ú = Alt + 0250

You have to use the number pad to put in the numbers, but it's relatively easy once you figure out how to do it. You could also use the Character Map to insert them, too.

You know one more thing that awesome? The Priest who I mentioned (a Hieromonk, actually) said that if he wanted to, he has an ancestral right to the See of Armagh! He essentially said that if he sets foot on Irish soil and wishes the see, the sitting RC Bishop is obligated to give it up. Now, I'm not sure if I heard him right, but I know that in the early Irish Church, sees were generally passed along clan lines, especially since many members of a clan would join monasteries, so his claim could be true.

Well, back to work.

XPICTOC BOCKPECE!
-Philip.

[Suzannah]

I will send you a copy when I'm done. In fact, I'll get you a copy of what I have so far, even though it's still rough and unedited and nowhere close to being finished. I might consider another one, though this Akathist will probably take a good long time.

And you put the tish marks on the vowels like this:
á = Alt + 0225
é = Alt + 0233
í = Alt + 0237
ó = Alt + 0243
ú = Alt + 0250

You have to use the number pad to put in the numbers, but it's relatively easy once you figure out how to do it. You could also use the Character Map to insert them, too.

You know one more thing that awesome? The Priest who I mentioned (a Hieromonk, actually) said that if he wanted to, he has an ancestral right to the See of Armagh! He essentially said that if he sets foot on Irish soil and wishes the see, the sitting RC Bishop is obligated to give it up. Now, I'm not sure if I heard him right, but I know that in the early Irish Church, sees were generally passed along clan lines, especially since many members of a clan would join monasteries, so his claim could be true.

Well, back to work.

XPICTOC BOCKPECE!
-Philip.

Thanks so much for everything Philip!!!! I appreciate this very much and will print it out.

This is, believe it or not, quite right, although the problem there would be this: the See of Armagh has been in the political hands of Protestants for so long, that I'm not sure Fr. would want it back...LOL Also the "Historical Register" would get involved and then its Vogons everywhere...but according to ancient law, he's quite right. Tell him you have another friend with a claim (spurious as it may be!) to Iona (although I think the Scots would not even entertain the argument and would likely want to beat me up...) LOL

[ExOrienteLux]

Thanks so much for everything Philip!!!! I appreciate this very much and will print it out.

This is, believe it or not, quite right, although the problem there would be this: the See of Armagh has been in the political hands of Protestants for so long, that I'm not sure Fr. would want it back...LOL Also the "Historical Register" would get involved and then its Vogons everywhere...but according to ancient law, he's quite right. Tell him you have another friend with a claim (spurious as it may be!) to Iona (although I think the Scots would not even entertain the argument and would likely want to beat me up...) LOL

I know, but could you imagine how freakin' awesome it would be to have an Orthodox Bishop sitting in the Throne of St. Patrick again? Fr. Patrick (yup, Vladyka KYRILL named him Patrick) has already thought up a Tropar to the New Martyrs and Confessors of Ireland that would surely spring up if Orthodoxy started to return in force. I love that priest. He's even got a Shilleleaugh, and he's threatened me with it a couple of times!

[Marjorie]

Suzannah,

Thanks for the explanation! :hug:

In IC XC,
Marjorie

[Lotar]

Now I remember why I had stopped posting in the GA...

[Matrona]

Now I remember why I had stopped posting in the GA...

What's broken there now? :(

You should see the character assassination I'm dealing with right now. :eek:

[Lotar]

What's broken there now? :(


Just how it always is. Most athiests ignore good arguments, and pick on the ignorant. But the worst part is the Fundamentalists who like to call the posts of other Christians "unscriptural" and generally do their best to commit fratricide.


You should see the character assassination I'm dealing with right now. :eek:


Which thread is that?

If I were in charge of this site, I'd be handing out warnings for fallacious arguments and character assassination.

[Matrona]

Just how it always is. Most athiests ignore good arguments, and pick on the ignorant. But the worst part is the Fundamentalists who like to call the posts of other Christians "unscriptural" and generally do their best to commit fratricide.

Yeah, I'd had enough of that by the time I came to CF, so that's why I don't venture into GA except on rare occasions.

Which thread is that?

http://www.christianforums.com/t1705245-the-filoque-clause.html

If I were in charge of this site, I'd be handing out warnings for fallacious arguments and character assassination.

I'd like that too. The victim in this case is none other than St. Photios the Great. :sigh:

Yeah, but if I started talking that kind of trash about their saints, I'd get dumped in the East River. :doh:

[Lotar]

Yeah, I'd had enough of that by the time I came to CF, so that's why I don't venture into GA except on rare occasions.



http://www.christianforums.com/t1705245-the-filoque-clause.html



I'd like that too. The victim in this case is none other than St. Photios the Great. :sigh:

Yeah, but if I started talking that kind of trash about their saints, I'd get dumped in the East River. :doh:

Apparently St. Photios was a simple man who couldn't understand the arguments presented to him. :doh:

BTW, I think the argument that TtLF is making is that since the Son has His source in the Father, the Spirit having His source from the Father and the Son is the same as saying the Spirit has his source in the Father alone. Of course, she'd rather just call you ignorant, and quote web pages with her size 400 font.

[Photini]

:( I need an Orthodox man. Heeellloooooo.....WHERE ARE YOU? Sorry, I'm having one of those kind of evenings.

[Lotar]

:( I need an Orthodox man. Heeellloooooo.....WHERE ARE YOU? Sorry, I'm having one of those kind of evenings.

How you doin'? ;)

[Photini]

How you doin'? ;)

:)

[OrthodoxyUSA]

*Orthodoxyusa buys a round of drinks for everyone*


Everyones had a tough day.... here's to ya!

Drinks are one me for the rest of the night.


Christ is Risen!

Forgive me.....

[gzt]

I have a horrible test tomorrow and a not-so-horrible test tomorrow. Bah. And then I have vespers.

[Matrona]

:( I need an Orthodox man. Heeellloooooo.....WHERE ARE YOU? Sorry, I'm having one of those kind of evenings.

Whoa! Make sure you look for a GOOD Orthodox man.

This church is a hospital for sinners, not a museum of saints, and there are plenty of scuzzballs who are Orthodox.

If all you look for is a church membership card, you can end up getting burned really, really badly.

[Photini]

Whoa! Make sure you look for a GOOD Orthodox man.

This church is a hospital for sinners, not a museum of saints, and there are plenty of scuzzballs who are Orthodox.

If all you look for is a church membership card, you can end up getting burned really, really badly.
Believe me Matrona. I learned that lesson the hard way.

[Matrona]

Everyones had a tough day.... here's to ya!

Drinks are one me for the rest of the night.

Thanks, buddy! :clap: :thumbsup:

[Matrona]

Believe me Matrona. I learned that lesson the hard way.

As did I, Photini.

[gzt]

Maybe I should take Mr Orthodoxyusa up on the offer for drinks, it's always easier to do singular homology after a glass of wine...

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Maybe I should take Mr Orthodoxyusa up on the offer for drinks, it's always easier to do singular homology after a glass of wine...

Perhaps just one... or you won't even be able to spell it...^_^

Christ is Risen!

Forgive me....:liturgy:

[elizabethevangeline]

How you doin'? ;)

LOL!

Especially when associated with that nice bearded man in the avatar.

[Michael the Iconographer]

Believe me Matrona. I learned that lesson the hard way.

Yeah, I learned that lesson big time. Just because someone tells you he/she is Orthodox doesn't make them Orthodox. Orthodoxy is not about hating other religions, or about hating people who have wronged you. Orthodoxy is about embracing God and letting his love consume your life. Orthodox is also not something that one can become overnight, it is rather something that you must grow in learning and living. Beware of those who are more Orthodox than everyone else, they are usually hiding something.

[gzt]

it's math, you don't need to spell right. but you do have to draw large diagrams...

[Khaleas]

Yeah, I learned that lesson big time. Just because someone tells you he/she is Orthodox doesn't make them Orthodox.

Amen to that one... and I've only been orthodox for just over a month and there are plenty of those out there...

[gzt]

I quite fortunately haven't had the singular opportunity to be burned by soi-disant Orthodox women yet...

[OrthodoxyUSA]

it's math, you don't need to spell right. but you do have to draw large diagrams...

O.K. ~ Well I think you should show me you can still draw a straight line before ordering your next drink...^_^

Just looking out for your grades....

Christ is Risen!

Forgive me...:liturgy:

[elizabethevangeline]

it's math, you don't need to spell right. but you do have to draw large diagrams...

another LOL...I didn't know what you were talking about til I backtracked and realized that there are a few TOTALLY UNRELATED conversations going on. IOW...this wasn't a dating comment....:D

OK sorry to interrupt, I'll go back to eavesdropping...

[gzt]

well, you have to draw commutative diagrams when you're dating, too, at least, on my ideal dates...

[Michael the Iconographer]

Amen to that one... and I've only been orthodox for just over a month and there are plenty of those out there...

I would actually rather date a Catholic who is devout in her faith and whose life is in order than an Orthodox who claims to be devout in her faith but whose life is full of strife and hatered and whom I have never actually seen at a Divine Liturgy.

[Lotar]

well, you have to draw commutative diagrams when you're dating, too, at least, on my ideal dates...

:D LOL :D

[Matrona]

well, you have to draw commutative diagrams when you're dating, too, at least, on my ideal dates...

I was tutoring someone in Precalculus at a Waffle House and used my waffle as a demonstration device. "This is 1-pi, 2-pi, 4-pi..."

[Lotar]

Given the male to female ratio at my church, I doubt I'll ever have to worry about getting burned.

[Matrona]

Given the male to female ratio at my church, I doubt I'll ever have to worry about getting burned.

What's the ratio? If there's lots of males, give me the address and I will relocate by next Sunday. :D

[Photini]

There are no single men close to my age in my church. They're all either..#1) elderly, #2) married, or #3) children.

[gzt]

Ah! Very interesting. The point about homology is that after pi-1, the fundamental groups pi-2, pi-3, pi-4, etc are hard to calculate, so we replace it with these simple algebraic structures and all these nice diagrams which look like waffles commute...

[gzt]

mmm, commutative waffles...

[Michael the Iconographer]

There are no single men close to my age in my church. They're all either..#1) elderly, #2) married, or #3) children.

There are no single women my age at my church. The women at my church who are even close to my age are all either 10 years younger than me or married, and the rest are all 40 and up.

[Lotar]

What's the ratio? If there's lots of males, give me the address and I will relocate by next Sunday. :D

I'd say it's probably about 4:1.

Here ya go: http://www.saintandrew.net/contact.html
^_^

[Lotar]

Maybe we should start up an inter-parish relocation program. Sort of like they do for endangered species. :D

[Photini]

mmm, commutative waffles...
waffles. NOW we're talkin

[Michael the Iconographer]

mmm, commutative waffles...

As long as you don't tell me you use a 3 part waffle to explain the trinity, or use waffles to explain the Great Schism of 1054!

[Khaleas]

There are no single women my age at my church. The women at my church who are even close to my age are all either 10 years younger than me or married, and the rest are all 40 and up.

Well, we have two single men in our church right now (some single women but their English isn't too hot)... but the men are both hoping to become monastics.

When I went to church in Finland there seemed to be a nice variety of both... maybe it's time for a pilgrimage... ^_^

[Photini]

Maybe we should start up an inter-parish relocation program. Sort of like they do for endangered species. :D
Sounds like a good idea to me. :)

[Matrona]

There are no single men close to my age in my church. They're all either..#1) elderly, #2) married, or #3) children.

I also have nothing. Most of the guys in my area are either not particularly pious, or aren't interested in dating outside their ethnic group. Or both. But I think dying a spinster has to be preferable to a bad relationship.

[Khaleas]

Well, we have two single men in our church right now (some single women but their English isn't too hot)... but the men are both hoping to become monastics.

When I went to church in Finland there seemed to be a nice variety of both... maybe it's time for a pilgrimage... ^_^

Hoping is the wrong word... but you all know what I mean... on the track to... they are just waiting for Father's blessings...

[Khaleas]

I also have nothing. Most of the guys in my area are either not particularly pious, or aren't interested in dating outside their ethnic group. Or both. But I think dying a spinster has to be preferable to a bad relationship.

And down the road you'll realize that what you then considered bad, wasn't so bad at all... and we all learn both good and bad from our experiences. Probably the most important thing about a relationship (after we get over the hurt and issues) is how we ourself grow and learn about ourselves from the relationship. And, even though it hurts a lot sometimes it's what we just have to deal with growing...

Been there, done that, then the telemarketer tried to sell me the tshirt...

[Matrona]

Maybe we should start up an inter-parish relocation program. Sort of like they do for endangered species. :D

:clap:

Didn't Anonykat propose starting a cyberbabushka service! I want to sign up. Somebody turn on the Anonykat-signal and get her in here, check on her progress. :)

[elizabethevangeline]

Maybe we should start up an inter-parish relocation program. Sort of like they do for endangered species. :D

Hey, in my area there is a large number of a sect off the Lutheran church. Other "hotspots" for this church is in Minnesota, Dakotas, etc. It is a very Scandanavian-centric, family-centric, insulated church. They have huge families and it seems most of the clans in my area are inter-related. They have these yearly "meetings" , the location alternates and the youth are encouraged to attend to meet youth from other areas of the country...mix up the DNA a bit.

[Photini]

I also have nothing. Most of the guys in my area are either not particularly pious, or aren't interested in dating outside their ethnic group. Or both. But I think dying a spinster has to be preferable to a bad relationship.
Definitely.

[Photini]

:clap:

Didn't Anonykat propose starting a cyberbabushka service! I want to sign up. Somebody turn on the Anonykat-signal and get her in here, check on her progress. :)
Hey, I remember that too. :)

[gzt]

My parishes are simply very small, there are two women my age in one, none in the other. The one with none is the only Orthodox Church in a university town...

[Michael the Iconographer]

Starts humming a tune by CINDERELLA "...don't know what you got until it's gone..."

[Lotar]

Hey, in my area there is a large number of a sect off the Lutheran church. Other "hotspots" for this church is in Minnesota, Dakotas, etc. It is a very Scandanavian-centric, family-centric, insulated church. They have huge families and it seems most of the clans in my area are inter-related. They have these yearly "meetings" , the location alternates and the youth are encouraged to attend to meet youth from other areas of the country...mix up the DNA a bit.

That's a good idea too. Though I don't think any of us are inbread. :D

[Photini]

And down the road you'll realize that what you then considered bad, wasn't so bad at all... and we all learn both good and bad from our experiences. Probably the most important thing about a relationship (after we get over the hurt and issues) is how we ourself grow and learn about ourselves from the relationship. And, even though it hurts a lot sometimes it's what we just have to deal with growing...

Been there, done that, then the telemarketer tried to sell me the tshirt...
Very true. Unfortunately I have a way of not listening to my intuition. I've put myself through some very hard times, knowing full well beforehand where the road would lead. But I did learn from it.

[Michael the Iconographer]

Very true. Unfortunately I have a way of not listening to my intuition. I've put myself through some very hard times, knowing full well beforehand where the road would lead. But I did learn from it.

You are such a sweet woman with a good heart. You will find a guy who treats you well and is good to you one of these days.

[Lotar]

:clap:

Didn't Anonykat propose starting a cyberbabushka service! I want to sign up. Somebody turn on the Anonykat-signal and get her in here, check on her progress. :)

Somebody send her a PM. ^_^

[RobNJ]

Starts humming a tune by CINDERELLA "...don't know what you got until it's gone..."

Isn't that Joni Mitchell? :scratch:

[Dust and Ashes]

Starts humming a tune by CINDERELLA "...don't know what you got until it's gone..."

Oh, wow, I haven't listened to Cinderella in a looooong time. I remember seeing them once when they opened for Bon Jovi back in the '80s and they stole the show. My favorite is Long Cold Winter. No, wait, Nobody's Fool. Or Bad Seamstress Blues... Ok, they're all my favorites. lol Lot of memories with those Night Songs and Long Cold Winter. Man, where to the years go? :sigh:

[Michael the Iconographer]

Isn't that Joni Mitchell? :scratch:

No, the 80s hair band CINDERELLA had a song "don't know what you got until it's gone."



I can’t tell ya baby what went wrong
I can’t make you feel what you felt so long ago
I’ll let it show
I can’t give you back what’s been hurt
Heartaches come and go and all that’s left are the words
I can’t let go
If we take some time to think it over baby
Take some time, let me know
If you really want to go

Don’t know what you got till it’s gone
Don’t know what it is I did so wrong
Now I know what I got
It’s just this song
And it ain’t easy to get back
Takes so long

I can’t feel the things that cause you pain
I can’t clear my heart of your love it falls like rain
Ain’t the same
I hear you calling far away
Tearing through my soul I just can’t take another day
Who’s to blame
If we take some time to think it over baby
Take some time let me know
If you really wanna go

Don’t know what you got till it’s gone
Don’t know what it is I did so wrong
Now I know what I got
It’s just this song
And it ain’t easy to get back
Takes so long

Do you wanna see me beggin’ baby
Can’t you give me just one more day
Can’t you see my heart’s been draggin’ lately
I’ve been lookin’ for the words to say

Don’t know what you got till it’s gone
Don’t know what it is I did so wrong
Now I know what I got
It’s just this song
And it ain’t easy to get back
Takes so long

Don’t know what you got till it’s gone no
Don’t know what it is I did so wrong
Now I know what I got
It’s just this song
And it ain’t easy to get back
Takes so long

[Photini]

Wow, I used to LOVE Cinderella. I saw them in concert too. They were opening (along with Warrent) for KISS.

[Lotar]

80s hair bands... um... ya... nevermind :sorry:

[Photini]

80s hair bands... um... ya... nevermind :sorry:
That's how I pretty much feel about it too. I do still like a little bit of it though....It makes me nostalgic. I'm kind of more stuck in the 90s era though.

[Khaleas]

Very true. Unfortunately I have a way of not listening to my intuition. I've put myself through some very hard times, knowing full well beforehand where the road would lead. But I did learn from it.

Don't we all... esp in our know-it-all early age :D ! Man I knew more than anyone could possibly fathom. Now I've realized my own mortality and the fact that the bird next door probably knows more than I do...